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Joe Molotov

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It's still not up yet?  :lol

No alt-right chan-trolls can inflitrate it if no one can register.

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it's the forum equivalent of a bloke who is so pure and good of heart that he cannot in good faith let slide the natural inclination for moral failing at the base of the human condition, so he grabs a rifle and climbs a clock tower before turning it on himself.

benjipwns

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The best part will be when they create 200 "official threads" of every type they can think about in the span of a couple hours and try to start filling them all up with worthwhile content to keep people posting.

If they aren't already doing this so that when it goes live it's "ready to go" and posters can just slide right into the big comfy threads full of the OG content leaders of NeoGAF's finest communities.

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Re: POLYGON: Inside former NeoGAF moderators’ mission to build a butter
« Reply #123 on: October 25, 2017, 10:32:18 AM »
Finally, a forum where the member to mod ratio is 1:1. Everyone gets their own personal mod!
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It's still not up yet?  :lol

No alt-right chan-trolls can inflitrate it if no one can register.

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Which kinda defeat the purpose of advertising it everywhere on GAF and twitter at the moment. Shit isn't even up, and nobody can register, so who cares?

https://vimeo.com/222531803

They're using the Alt-Right's playbook against them.

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I'm cool with limiting registration at the start. Allow decent posters to get in and create the tone/community of the forum for a few weeks or a month...then allow the masses in. There will be trolls no matter what but if you have a solid baseline you can handle it.

The Bore was the Wild West when it first started, a mixture of GAF legends and trolls. I think the forum's success boils down to a great/sexy mod staff and the fact that most of us here aren't distinguished mentally-challenged. You can shit post for a bit but eventually you settle down and want some real talk about what really matters: life, and Taco Bell.
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VomKriege

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Allegedly 15k verified accounts in the different discords...
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brawndolicious

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What you do is create a dedicated thread or sub-forum for discussion on what happens in other forums. Most people will ignore those threads because they're an emotional dingleberry and you can ban/warn posters when they drag that discussion into the normal off-topic forum.

You build a community by letting them discuss and share ideas. Not by delaying everything to dial in a perfect fucking mission statement.

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It's still not up yet?  :lol

A delayed game forum is eventually good, but a rushed game forum is forever bad.
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benjipwns

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What you do is create a dedicated thread or sub-forum for discussion on what happens in other forums. Most people will ignore those threads because they're an emotional dingleberry and you can ban/warn posters when they drag that discussion into the normal off-topic forum.

You build a community by letting them discuss and share ideas. Not by delaying everything to dial in a perfect fucking mission statement.
No, that was the old way, this is a way to an opportunity to redefine what forum and moderation culture looks like from the ground up.

VomKriege

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Hopefully ResetEra enforces a word filter on "Neogaf" and assorted words to help enforce the gag order positive behavioral guideline, for maximum both sides (:trigger) comical juxtaposition.
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They just released their official motto. I little longer than "Believe" but...

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This is a cult. This is a fucking cult  :lol
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They just released their official motto. I little longer than "Believe" but...

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Strength Through Purity, Purity Through Faith

~Cerium, ResetEra
This is a cult. This is a fucking cult  :lol


Joe Molotov

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Hopefully ResetEra enforces a word filter on "Neogaf" and assorted words to help enforce the gag order positive behavioral guideline, for maximum both sides (:trigger) comical juxtaposition.

Neogaf has already word filtered resetera :lol (or so I've heard, because who posts at GAF in this day and age?)
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demi

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You did, chubs. I see you in that Vita thread
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Huff

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I've always wanted to start a cult and/or religion
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Joe Molotov

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You did, chubs. I see you in that Vita thread

That was pre-showerpocalypse, I can't be held accountable.  :trumps
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VomKriege

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Don't take it from me, but I heard on the grapevine that one ResetEra mod is keeping tabs for Evilore. Also heard another one is planning to fan the flames of fights for laughs. Not sure if it's two different persons or one and the same ?

Also : odds on spotting a benjipwns post in ResetEra on its first week ?
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Rman

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I really know didn't people put so much emotional energy into a forum of all things.  Bizarre.

Joe Molotov

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Also : odds on spotting a benjipwns post in ResetEra on its first week ?

Isn’t benji a beloved figure on poligaf? I’m sure he can use his connections there to get an invite.
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Can demi and joe just fuck already

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They just released their official motto. I little longer than "Believe" but...

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Strength Through Purity, Purity Through Faith

~Cerium, ResetEra

Sounds like something Varg Vikernes could be into. Is he an admin? I'd sign up.
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What's this schreier thing you guys have going on? I don't really follow gaming media outside of upcoming games but his articles on game development were about the only ones worthwhile to read.

demi

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Schrier is a weeb who talks about JRPG on Kotaku but he's a pretty consistent journo when it comes to scoops and whatnot. I have no issue with him, myself. He likes Destiny
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VomKriege

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What's this schreier thing you guys have going on? I don't really follow gaming media outside of upcoming games but his articles on game development were about the only ones worthwhile to read.

In earnest I don't really care for him. Heard him once on Three Moves Ahead, sounded OK. Had a handful of decent articles over the years (I mean, among the few I read). Some of the ball-fondling on GAF was borderline obnoxious (though maybe not his fault and he got a lot of shit thrown his way too).
I find a bit ridiculous he's held in such high esteem.
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What's this schreier thing you guys have going on? I don't really follow gaming media outside of upcoming games but his articles on game development were about the only ones worthwhile to read.

He has good articles on the game development experience, but him saying he ignored people telling him about Evilore's sexual assault history cause they were gamergaters or voaters made me lose a lot of respect.

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Schreier is also helping the mods at Reset cover up their involvement in snuffing this story out for years.

benjipwns

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What's this schreier thing you guys have going on?
what do you mean "you guys"?

i think it's funny that a yet to be launched forum who has two levels of lockdown in their discord and a standing order not to engage with the outside world and has pushed off their launch every time they find out there's a GAMERGATER HIDING AMONGST THEM is talking about how "someone can write about what's going on properly" when they already successfully roped Polygon into giving them an extended sympathetic piece with absolutely zero skepticism to the story they were being fed that not only inflated the status of their admins but even signed off with a cheery note about it's poetic launch date with the only part that even hesitated was speculation that gamergate is going to attack (BUT THEY'RE READY FOR EM)

now they've let yet another reporter within their walls to help get the "real story" out

for an internet forum, a video game forum that's a spin-off of the off-topic section of another video game forum

that isn't up because...? when anyone can put a forum up in under an hour

https://forums.opencritic.com/ which "backed off in favor of ResetEra" has a thousand posts in its gaming section already, part of SteamGAF moved over there, Durante is posting in it, etc.

while we supposedly have the very content creators that invented NeoGAF all sitting on their hands for a site the Kotaku article that comes out later probably will have a line like "launch later this week" or something in it among all the cultist gibberish like the polygon piece

it's almost a foolproof plan, except for the part where they have to put up the forum eventually and face the torrential pain of reality

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But early members noted that as of the time of this writing, the forum is gearing up to go live between 9 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET — around the time of Nintendo’s latest Direct. The near-simultaneous occurrence of these events isn’t lost on the community, which told Polygon that the coincidence was almost poetic in nature. After suffering through the loss of a home, lost NeoGAF members getting a new Animal Crossing game to animatedly discuss with friends on a website built in the original forum’s image seemed just right.

Wow, this is some truly beautiful writing, I'm getting a little emotional reading this shit. Such a shame they missed the launch date!

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Nabbis

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Alright, seems like there's some fuckery involved there. Oh well, gaming journalism.

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But digital media limits the potential social benefits of moral outrage in several ways. First, ideological segregation online prevents the targets of outrage from receiving messages that could induce them (and like-minded others) to change their behaviour. For politicized issues, moral disapproval ricochets within echo chambers but only occasionally escapes. Second, by lowering the threshold for outrage expression, digital media may degrade the ability of outrage to distinguish the truly heinous from the merely disagreeable. Third, expressing outrage online may result in less meaningful involvement in social causes, for example through volunteering or donations. People are less likely to spend money on punishing unfairness when they are given the opportunity to express their outrage via written messages instead.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-017-0213-3.epdf?author_access_token=g7DCcgI5RN7lYtll2TN91dRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0NeX9lcnqMb85KhxxCNXPvcT9GiKnBqrtnmpjrd_GOPGrJhzSoffolMzocFxY_IUgW1PXgqUTxBApfNabbmgnbQzUbucqLUbY5EV9bfCBawVA%3D%3D

From Yale Psych

I am kind of curious what would happen if you linked this in their discord. You'd be purged but then someone is going to read it. It's a breakdown of why they're the baddies.


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The design is OK (though the header could be slimmed up some) and the logo is actually pretty decent.

But with any community it comes down to who's in it. :idont

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It is alive.

http://resetera.com/threads/welcome-your-new-admins-and-mods.12/

Well it doesn't look hideous, but it doesn't look that good either.  It looks like some off brand forum software from the mid-2000's or so.

Tasty

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I still don't know why they didn't go with Discourse. Maybe because it's $100/month hosted? Or costs a one-time $99 fee to setup and then run on DigitalOcean for $10.

Did this hot new startup LLC not have the funds for that? :dunno

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Holy shit this text contrast


Diunx

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Who wants his dick sucked for a SECRET CODE?

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or jus his dick sucked  :-*
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Diunx

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They have a mobile version :dead

:piss demi :piss2
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fuck forum browsing on mobile

Diunx

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So what do you want me to do at the office? work?  :neogaf
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Dodd Scientifics had a better logo
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honestly despite all the fuckery this seems like a decent forum so far, relatively speaking. basically a, like, 15% less shitty version of gaf, which is probably about all that could be hoped for.
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This may be one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen

Don't take it from me, but I heard on the grapevine that one ResetEra mod is keeping tabs for Evilore. Also heard another one is planning to fan the flames of fights for laughs. Not sure if it's two different persons or one and the same ?

Also : odds on spotting a benjipwns post in ResetEra on its first week ?

I feel like even the suggestion of this will cause this crew to swallow themselves up. And with 40 of them it is probably true.

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It's okay to not post: it is fine to see a thread about a subject that you absolutely don't care about and to not post in it. It's absolutely fine to let people celebrate tiny successes without dropping a snarky comment between posts. We are not asking of you to not be critical, but to be aware that your opinion is just one among many and not necessary for every single thread.
:mindblown :ufup :pacspit :bolo :crazy :stop :jeanluc

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I want to see NeoGAF vs. ResetERA Tribes Ascend matches.

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Hopefully it acts as a containment unit. They might want to change that design to better separate one post from another. Looks like an American Psycho business card exchange.

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You jelly? demi retire bitch
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demi

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That actually hurts, not gonna lie
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and wow so much activity, they might actually pull this off :leon
tbd. There are a lot of potential pitfalls moving forward.

It is very clear this is the spiritual continuation of 2017 GAF, though. So in that respect they won the first battle.

Trent Dole

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oh hey z-huge is one of the eleventy billion admins. I enjoy his twattering.
..seriously that is way too many mods/admins. :doge
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BlackMage

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how come the link to that forum doesn't work.. it says "no longer parked by godaddy"
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AdmiralViscen

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The candle that burns twice as bright lasts half as long

Huff

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Rename Joe to Benedict
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Tasty

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Rename Joe to Benedict

Benedict Molotov

Joe Benedict? 🍳

benjipwns

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#YearZero continues in the dumpster thread...

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So we don't have to look at Joe's betrayal :fbm
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