fapping and then having a nice meal afterwards always insured I didn't make poor choices.
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Amber Creeper Alert I have it on good authority that a certain games journalist who's a minor weeb-celeb on Reeeeeee is about to get #MeToo'd. The Facebook post I saw is no longer in place (and the account appears to have gone when I search for it - not sure what's up there) but apparently it's been grabbed and is going to get posted with evidence that they *were* aware of Evilore's sketchy past with the opposite sex, in contradiction to their protestations.Welcome to the club. Which club? This club -->
Excuse me while I put on my skepticals.
This thread is an absolute landmine.https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-get-better-at-discussing-diversity-and-representation-issues.8835/Something I don't get, that probably would get you crucified if brought up over there...if representation of women in games matters so much and has all these real-world effects, then why isn't violence in games having any real-world effect?If violence in games lets people get their frustrations out and keeps them cooped up indoors, off the streets, likely lowering the crime rate...wouldn't sexiness in games let nerds get their sexual frustrations out and reduce sexual harassment and rape? Isn't it good that people can get titillated gaming instead of going out and bothering real women?And yes of course this is a heinous case of whataboutism because I brought something up in comparison.
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boogie is not a good guy. He's a fucking hypocrite who would do everything he could to keep his viewers around so that his income is sustained. Acting all both sides when literal nazis are involved but on the other hand says gaming communities trying to be progressive is a bad thing. He's a huge hypocrite piece of shit. Fuck boogie, forever.
Quote from: Uncle on November 30, 2017, 01:26:27 PMThis thread is an absolute landmine.https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-get-better-at-discussing-diversity-and-representation-issues.8835/Something I don't get, that probably would get you crucified if brought up over there...if representation of women in games matters so much and has all these real-world effects, then why isn't violence in games having any real-world effect?If violence in games lets people get their frustrations out and keeps them cooped up indoors, off the streets, likely lowering the crime rate...wouldn't sexiness in games let nerds get their sexual frustrations out and reduce sexual harassment and rape? Isn't it good that people can get titillated gaming instead of going out and bothering real women?And yes of course this is a heinous case of whataboutism because I brought something up in comparison.https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-get-better-at-discussing-diversity-and-representation-issues.8835/#post-1554068Quoteboogie is not a good guy. He's a fucking hypocrite who would do everything he could to keep his viewers around so that his income is sustained. Acting all both sides when literal nazis are involved but on the other hand says gaming communities trying to be progressive is a bad thing. He's a huge hypocrite piece of shit. Fuck boogie, forever.
Quiet makes me embarrassed to play video games and is exhibit A that men are creeps.
Quote from: Uncle on November 30, 2017, 01:26:27 PMThis thread is an absolute landmine.https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-need-to-get-better-at-discussing-diversity-and-representation-issues.8835/Something I don't get, that probably would get you crucified if brought up over there...if representation of women in games matters so much and has all these real-world effects, then why isn't violence in games having any real-world effect?If violence in games lets people get their frustrations out and keeps them cooped up indoors, off the streets, likely lowering the crime rate...wouldn't sexiness in games let nerds get their sexual frustrations out and reduce sexual harassment and rape? Isn't it good that people can get titillated gaming instead of going out and bothering real women?And yes of course this is a heinous case of whataboutism because I brought something up in comparison.Because they want to feel important while doing something as utterly trivial as playing/discussing videogames.
You mean it or you're mocking them? To me, quiet looks were fine, it was the personality and plot holes that drove me crazy. spoiler (click to show/hide)FUCKING WRITE ON A PAPER IF YOU CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH[close]
Any more comments picking apart Schreier will resort in warnings or bans. People can have different opinions. The entire point of reviews is to collect different perspectives from different people.
Kingpin RogersMember#2User was Warned: ThreadshittingSorry, but I can't just make myself get bothered by it or take issue with it. I'm personally fine with things like Quiet and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Warning: Adds nothing to the discussion, and attempts to stifle the conversation.Well, in the last thread I said that homicide and violence are worst than immoral clothes and called that some hypocrisy and a mod called me for trolling.So, unfortunately, we are not ready to discuss this, including the moderation. We all need to get better and learn to accept all opinions.Not every idea against yours is trolling or baiting.
It's something you roll your eyes at and then continue to play a great game (Quiet boss fight is pretty good btw) - or you just don't buy what you don't like to begin with. Making a political issues out of videogame character designs is a complete waste of time and helps no one but GAF people's ego.
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Quote from: Spieler1 on November 30, 2017, 04:08:27 PMIt's something you roll your eyes at and then continue to play a great game (Quiet boss fight is pretty good btw) - or you just don't buy what you don't like to begin with. Making a political issues out of videogame character designs is a complete waste of time and helps no one but GAF people's ego.Oh fuck off. I can enjoy a great game (the boss fight was incredible) and also say "this is disgusting. Please stop." Who the fuck said anything about political statements?
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Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on November 30, 2017, 04:16:03 PM(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)Only a weirdo nerd would find this acceptable. I'm sorry. What game is this? this is ridiculous lol
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on November 30, 2017, 04:10:54 PMQuote from: Spieler1 on November 30, 2017, 04:08:27 PMIt's something you roll your eyes at and then continue to play a great game (Quiet boss fight is pretty good btw) - or you just don't buy what you don't like to begin with. Making a political issues out of videogame character designs is a complete waste of time and helps no one but GAF people's ego.Oh fuck off. I can enjoy a great game (the boss fight was incredible) and also say "this is disgusting. Please stop." Who the fuck said anything about political statements?GAFreera.There's more than enough animu games I'm not going to touch because of painfully stupid (female) characters (especially ever since the whole fanservice stuff went into pedo-territory). But I'm not delusional enough to make such a gigantic constant fuss over character designs for weebs that simply aren't important in real life ( - if anything, I find the military porn such people conveniently handwave more questionable within the current social climate tbh). It's like people that don't shut up about that stuff need to compensate that they don't do anything real progressive with their time. But in the end, it's just fucking weeb games.
Quote from: Spieler1 on November 30, 2017, 04:29:40 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on November 30, 2017, 04:10:54 PMQuote from: Spieler1 on November 30, 2017, 04:08:27 PMIt's something you roll your eyes at and then continue to play a great game (Quiet boss fight is pretty good btw) - or you just don't buy what you don't like to begin with. Making a political issues out of videogame character designs is a complete waste of time and helps no one but GAF people's ego.Oh fuck off. I can enjoy a great game (the boss fight was incredible) and also say "this is disgusting. Please stop." Who the fuck said anything about political statements?GAFreera.There's more than enough animu games I'm not going to touch because of painfully stupid (female) characters (especially ever since the whole fanservice stuff went into pedo-territory). But I'm not delusional enough to make such a gigantic constant fuss over character designs for weebs that simply aren't important in real life ( - if anything, I find the military porn such people conveniently handwave more questionable within the current social climate tbh). It's like people that don't shut up about that stuff need to compensate that they don't do anything real progressive with their time. But in the end, it's just fucking weeb games.Like I said before, you can care about stuff and say,"this is fucked up" without being a total Social Studies Warrior about it.
Gameplay is only one facet of a game. People care about stories, and some of the most powerful stories put there are so powerful because of how relatable they are. People want to relate with the struggles and issues a character is going through. It makes them feel like a game was made for them.
Every time I think about Quiet, I remember that one of Kojima’s goals with her character design was to make people want to cosplay as her. At least he was honest, I guess!
QuoteGameplay is only one facet of a game. People care about stories, and some of the most powerful stories put there are so powerful because of how relatable they are. People want to relate with the struggles and issues a character is going through. It makes them feel like a game was made for them.(Image removed from quote.)
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on November 30, 2017, 04:16:03 PM(Image removed from quote.)I'm sorry. But this is the best thing Kojima gave us because:
@ having a Telltale game as best anything
What you are doing is dangerously close to thread- and community-whining by bringing up GAF constantly. Do you really think writing a long-ass post about meta-discussion (hell, it's pretty much meta-meta-discussion at this point), instead of what the topic is actually about, and calling an entire community "fucking disgusting", is helping? You complain about lack of civility, then use inflammatory language like "fucking disgusting", "infected", "groupthink"? Please. (I also truly find it rather comical that in the very same post, you complain about shit-flinging and divisiveness.... and groupthink. So ERA is a hivemind, except it can't get along and is always fighting... er, okay.)Look, let's avoid this kind of meta-discussion and sweeping generalizations about entire communities, and discuss the actual topic raised by the OP. If you cannot do that, stay out of this thread.
After going through the thread a bit, I'm a little disappointed in some responses to this. Llyrwenne laid out a well-constructed, measured OP. Reasonable, non-hyperbolic, intelligent, and thoughtful. The very first reply post is an immediate dismissal with no substance attached whatsoever. Other posts range from dismissive whataboutisms to clear inability to accept. Is is truly that difficult to empathize and understand that issues like this affect people differently from all walks of life? Women, minorities, LBGT, etc have every right to feel misrepresented in anything whether it be film, video games, or whatever the case may be. They have a right to want that to improve, not to slight men or say gaming is in a complete gutter, but to feel like they belong too. There is nothing wrong with this and it should instead be encouraged.As a man myself and a game enthusiast since I was a boy, it's clear to see that video games are not a 'boys only' pleasure anymore. In fact, they never truly were, and that should be something that is welcomed people.Did anyone truly take my message to the forum to heart?*breathes*Now...if you can't be considerate enough to have a clear, level-headed discussion about this, do not post. Do not come in and say "Eh, I think everything's fine". You're more than welcome to feel that way, but that does not make for real constructive discourse and does absolutely nothing. If this isn't something you don't care about, wonderful, ignore it and move on. Do not come in to dismiss it, lambast, and leave. We won't tolerate it. If you're thinking about posting, read, read and re-read your post before clicking that reply button. We'll be re-opening this and closely watching the thread.Thank you.~Shin
Quote from: VomKriege on November 30, 2017, 06:19:41 AMQuote from: Shostakovich on November 30, 2017, 04:24:21 AMLol what an absolute dramaqueenI mean, he's not wrong. I wouldn't be surprised Era did go a step further to appease the cretins for whom everything is a spoiler.Asking for account deletion is hilarious though.You should have saw us when it was revealed Hojo was revived and the bad guy in Dirge of Cerberus.
Quote from: Shostakovich on November 30, 2017, 04:24:21 AMLol what an absolute dramaqueenI mean, he's not wrong. I wouldn't be surprised Era did go a step further to appease the cretins for whom everything is a spoiler.Asking for account deletion is hilarious though.
Lol what an absolute dramaqueen
the nintendumbs crying over his xenoblade review are making asses of themselves just like the sonyponies did over an uncharted 3 middling review https://www.destructoid.com/does-uncharted-turn-people-psychotic--214590.phtml
Maybe I'm the odd one here, but I really don't care what my character is, male, female, black, white, blob, attack helicopter, etc. So long as the game is fun.
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on November 30, 2017, 04:37:48 PMQuote from: Spieler1 on November 30, 2017, 04:29:40 PMQuote from: Cindi Mayweather on November 30, 2017, 04:10:54 PMQuote from: Spieler1 on November 30, 2017, 04:08:27 PMIt's something you roll your eyes at and then continue to play a great game (Quiet boss fight is pretty good btw) - or you just don't buy what you don't like to begin with. Making a political issues out of videogame character designs is a complete waste of time and helps no one but GAF people's ego.Oh fuck off. I can enjoy a great game (the boss fight was incredible) and also say "this is disgusting. Please stop." Who the fuck said anything about political statements?GAFreera.There's more than enough animu games I'm not going to touch because of painfully stupid (female) characters (especially ever since the whole fanservice stuff went into pedo-territory). But I'm not delusional enough to make such a gigantic constant fuss over character designs for weebs that simply aren't important in real life ( - if anything, I find the military porn such people conveniently handwave more questionable within the current social climate tbh). It's like people that don't shut up about that stuff need to compensate that they don't do anything real progressive with their time. But in the end, it's just fucking weeb games.Like I said before, you can care about stuff and say,"this is fucked up" without being a total Social Studies Warrior about it.I agree. One of my favorite games this gen was Zero Escape 2 and god knows I wish it didn't have two lewd/creep-baiting main characters, which makes it way too hard to recommend to normal people. I was mainly dissing the typical GAF discourse regarding these things, which simply takes it to redundant and stupid extremes.
Quote from: Jansen on November 30, 2017, 06:24:58 PMthe nintendumbs crying over his xenoblade review are making asses of themselves just like the sonyponies did over an uncharted 3 middling review https://www.destructoid.com/does-uncharted-turn-people-psychotic--214590.phtml"Jim Sterling"
Quote from: Boredfrom on November 30, 2017, 07:18:19 PMQuote from: Jansen on November 30, 2017, 06:24:58 PMthe nintendumbs crying over his xenoblade review are making asses of themselves just like the sonyponies did over an uncharted 3 middling review https://www.destructoid.com/does-uncharted-turn-people-psychotic--214590.phtml"Jim Sterling" which jimquisition shitting on nintendo got you in the feels?
imagine giving a shit
Guys please do not criticize Jason Schreier's reviews... he is A MEMBER OF RESETERA COMMUNITY!
Quote from: I'm a Puppy! on November 30, 2017, 06:14:19 PMMaybe I'm the odd one here, but I really don't care what my character is, male, female, black, white, blob, attack helicopter, etc. So long as the game is fun.Neither do I, but then again I'm part of the video game audience that's been most catered to for the past 40 years. So I can understand why people who aren't part of the typical audience want more representation.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/1574106/I refuse to believe a person can be this fucking dumb.
Quote from: FStop7 on November 30, 2017, 08:18:05 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/posts/1574106/I refuse to believe a person can be this fucking dumb.Get a load of this spherecuck over here