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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14580 on: February 09, 2018, 10:15:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/4371448/

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Harassment does not require a victim.

totes reasonable :derp
harassment does not require harassment either. Some people ask, "what came first, the chicken or the egg?" well the clear answer is harassment  :reeeee :reeeee
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« Reply #14581 on: February 09, 2018, 10:40:05 PM »
I wonder how many people are being crazy off the deep end with "social justice" Because they think they need to in order to fit in or not get banned? I know that's what I did when I first joined GAF. Most of my shitting on GTAV was that. With ResetEra I've dropped all pretense, it's probably why I've been warned and banned for being "aggressive" and "wishing violence on politicians".

lawl. That's pathetic man, but at least you've realized the errors of your ways

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« Reply #14582 on: February 09, 2018, 10:46:47 PM »
I wonder how many people are being crazy off the deep end with "social justice" Because they think they need to in order to fit in or not get banned? I know that's what I did when I first joined GAF. Most of my shitting on GTAV was that. With ResetEra I've dropped all pretense, it's probably why I've been warned and banned for being "aggressive" and "wishing violence on politicians".

Was your avatar that person wearing a brown hood or something? Sort of like a Jedi? I remembered how some of your posts were very Social Studies Warrior-like then. So you're saying you were just trying to fit in back then?
Yes and yes. I had quickly gotten into a few OTs so when I kept seeing people getting banned for saying pretty normal shit I didn't want to follow. I still racked up six bans, so I didn't really keep it up for long past being a junior. Other times later when is post obviously outrageous shit was just to see who'd bite and agree with me.

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« Reply #14583 on: February 09, 2018, 10:49:19 PM »
Bobby needs professional help, there is no way that much fixation on being an asshole is healthy for you. I feel bad for the dude tbh.


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« Reply #14585 on: February 09, 2018, 10:58:20 PM »
Bobby did delete that tweet after I linked it here. 👀

The first reply, with no top comment now: https://twitter.com/BrokenFiction/status/962035680334422018


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« Reply #14587 on: February 09, 2018, 11:02:00 PM »
I wonder how many people are being crazy off the deep end with "social justice" Because they think they need to in order to fit in or not get banned? I know that's what I did when I first joined GAF. Most of my shitting on GTAV was that. With ResetEra I've dropped all pretense, it's probably why I've been warned and banned for being "aggressive" and "wishing violence on politicians".

Was your avatar that person wearing a brown hood or something? Sort of like a Jedi? I remembered how some of your posts were very Social Studies Warrior-like then. So you're saying you were just trying to fit in back then?
Yes and yes. I had quickly gotten into a few OTs so when I kept seeing people getting banned for saying pretty normal shit I didn't want to follow. I still racked up six bans, so I didn't really keep it up for long past being a junior. Other times later when is post obviously outrageous shit was just to see who'd bite and agree with me.

It's easy to not get banned, you just have to be civil. I decline to talk about violence except in the abstract because it's already implied in my political beliefs that I'm OK with it from a moral standpoint. Just not necessarily a strategic one depending on the circumstances.

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« Reply #14588 on: February 09, 2018, 11:04:05 PM »
Bobby did delete that tweet after I linked it here. 👀

The first reply, with no top comment now: https://twitter.com/BrokenFiction/status/962035680334422018

you digusting doxxer.

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« Reply #14589 on: February 09, 2018, 11:12:55 PM »
I decline to talk about violence except in the abstract because it's already implied in my political beliefs that I'm OK with it from a moral standpoint. Just not necessarily a strategic one depending on the circumstances.
At least you recognize it's not good strategy.
https://vimeo.com/1365887/description

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Like I said, depends on the situation. The US state is too powerful for a revolution to overthrow and there would be a massive freikorps that would retaliate. It would be a bigger disaster than the German Revolution.

But Nepal has been a relative success story!

Edit: lol I hadn't even watched the video yet. Hampton was a good dude.

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« Reply #14590 on: February 09, 2018, 11:17:56 PM »
It's amazing that broken fiction guy can extricate himself from Bobby's cock long enough to post on twitter . Just saying :trumps
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« Reply #14591 on: February 09, 2018, 11:21:14 PM »
So the Nolan thread is going to be derailed because: GAMERGATE!!!!!

That medium article dared to have this

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While Gamergate is complex, it is not impenetrably so. You can understand them and their movement, but it takes time and effort and not many are willing to offer these precious commodities. Had more people done so at the beginning of Gamergate way back in August of 2014, we would not still be talking about it today.

ElBoxyBrown need to have a gif.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4375270/

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We are back again to "Harassement doesnt need a victim"  :doge

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Oh it's clear that Wu was opportunistic here. But I specifically said in my post that I have issues with Wu. And even without Wu's role in this story, I've known about Atari's culture already, it's documented. There's a fun episode of The Dollop about it, getting into the history of Pong and how Bushnell didn't copyright the game so people were making ripoffs left and right. But the episode also gets into the cocaine culture of the company, and the 'party atmosphere'. So it's not a fabricated story by any stretch. It's just how we choose to interpret it. I consider those anecdotes provided to be classic examples of abusing a power dynamic and boss-employee relationship.

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« Reply #14593 on: February 09, 2018, 11:27:31 PM »
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This is only tangentially related to Wu's clear political ambitions, but it might be easier to start a MeToo in gaming by exploring the past, because if you try to investigate it in current companies, you'll have a lot of the same issues that led to the MeToo movement, which is to say: women not speaking about their experiences, in fear of being blackballed. We already know the gaming industry has a major problem, as NONE of the major developers/publishers said Gamergate by name during the height of the movement. So it's a tough hill to climb.

So this is a witch hunt.

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« Reply #14594 on: February 09, 2018, 11:27:39 PM »
So am I to get this straight:

Bobby signs up for RE, makes about 100 posts a day, finds out being an asshole to everyone doesn't work as well with warning buttons, so he gets warned and banned. He then briefly comes back to complain and be more of an asshole, then gets called out for being an asshole by multiple people while talking about how TOXIC and WHITE MALE the RE user base is, which causes him to pout and leave for a few weeks. He briefly returns once more to, believe it or not, be an asshole, then leaves the site again. Now he's complaining about it on Twitter?


What an asshole.
That's the beak of it.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14596 on: February 09, 2018, 11:38:24 PM »
Gamergate gets proven right

Bobby is alone on his twitter account

GAF has less traffic than voat

Reset is purple drank

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« Reply #14597 on: February 09, 2018, 11:46:40 PM »
Gamergate gets proven right

Bobby is alone on his twitter account

GAF has less traffic than voat

Reset is purple drank

Of what?

Of being incompetent and dumb enough to lose the PR battle with people like Brianna Wu?

That said...

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Yeah, ultimately this is the problem. No one is discounting that a lot of people were likely okay with the culture of Atari at the time (and if it benefited them, I'm fairly certain they were probably even happy about it). The idea that everyone was ok with things like being solicited by their boss is absurd
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 :doge

"Harassement doesnt need a victim"

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14598 on: February 09, 2018, 11:48:45 PM »
that you realize it was just a PR battle with a liar like Wu means they win

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14599 on: February 09, 2018, 11:54:36 PM »
that you realize it was just a PR battle with a liar like Wu means they win

Not because of them, The fact that people still derail discussions with the sole mention of them should tell you how ineffective it was.

What a big win, being perpetually labelled as harassers even by people that dislike Social Studies Warriors.

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« Reply #14600 on: February 10, 2018, 12:09:43 AM »
But they don't really believe it was harassers

Right now, a lot of people are going along with stuff they truly don't believe. It's the nature of our hysteria, but once that cloud of mental static passes, then the sky will clear, clarity will trickle in and people will confess they just went along with the bullshit.

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« Reply #14601 on: February 10, 2018, 12:10:05 AM »
Gamergate is lame, but Reee (and GAF before them) made them out to be some sorta super insidious woman raping cult when in reality it's just a bunch of lame twitter/reddit fuckheads arguing on the internet, with the occasional rando taking it too far.

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« Reply #14602 on: February 10, 2018, 12:17:22 AM »
But they don't really believe it was harassers

Right now, a lot of people are going along with stuff they truly don't believe. It's the nature of our hysteria, but once that cloud of mental static passes, then the sky will clear, clarity will trickle in and people will confess they just went along with the bullshit.

Who? Even people in this forum will just call them bunch of harassers and take people like Wu at face value. The fact that there were actual harassers and GG tendency to appeal the yellow right wing press makes them easier to ignore or believe they are a fascist sex cult.

And, even if people learn about some of the shady shit that antiGG did, I bet you they still will hate the fuck off of Gamergate (like me)


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« Reply #14604 on: February 10, 2018, 12:17:52 AM »
^^

And that's what I mean. People realize the accusation was bullshit. That the people attacking GG were jackasses.

This is after years of media sources trashing it, name dropping it, and trying to bury it. But by the act of continually bringing it up out of nowhere, they draw continued attention to it that only leads normal people to question their honesty and intentions.

You spend years calling gamer nerds the third reich, eventually everyone else realizes it was only nerds recognizing these lunatics as lunatics faster than the rest.


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« Reply #14606 on: February 10, 2018, 12:20:17 AM »
^^

And that's what I mean. People realize the accusation was bullshit. That the people attacking GG were jackasses.

This is after years of media sources trashing it, name dropping it, and trying to bury it. But by the act of continually bringing it up out of nowhere, they draw continued attention to it that only leads normal people to question their honesty and intentions.

You spend years calling gamer nerds the third reich, eventually everyone else realizes it was only nerds recognizing these lunatics as lunatics faster than the rest.

Here is the thing, Etiolate:

Gamergate are also a bunch of jackasses.

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« Reply #14607 on: February 10, 2018, 12:21:00 AM »
But they don't really believe it was harassers

Right now, a lot of people are going along with stuff they truly don't believe. It's the nature of our hysteria, but once that cloud of mental static passes, then the sky will clear, clarity will trickle in and people will confess they just went along with the bullshit.

Who? Even people in this forum will just call them bunch of harassers and take people like Wu at face value. The fact that there were actual harassers and GG tendency to appeal the yellow right wing press makes them easier to ignore or believe they are a fascist sex cult.

And, even if people learn about some of the shady shit that antiGG did, I bet you they still will hate the fuck off of Gamergate (like me)

The second sentence in my post is key.

They say harasser, but they don't truly believe it. It takes too much energy to keep that lie going inside yourself to continue it forever. Eventually, they just shrug and say yah it was all bullshit we went along with.

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« Reply #14608 on: February 10, 2018, 12:31:21 AM »
Sigh.

Whatever.


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« Reply #14609 on: February 10, 2018, 12:31:21 AM »
Bobby did delete that tweet after I linked it here. 👀

The first reply, with no top comment now: https://twitter.com/BrokenFiction/status/962035680334422018

Huh, you're right. It was something like "Well, now I know why I'm not on reddit" or whatever.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14610 on: February 10, 2018, 12:34:00 AM »
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Gamergate still exists and it is still active. I think the game industry HAS abusers in it, not that it's FULL OF abusers. We already know of Brad Wardell who is still around and still an ass. We also know if the harassment at IGN, the harassment from Polygon's Nick Robinson. If you want to pretend that this doesn't exist in the industry just because people haven't been outed yet, that's your call.

As far as turning a blind eye, Nintendo did not stick up for Allison Rapp when she was targetted by Gamergate. They fired her and left her to the wolves. They may have had to make a move based on the moonlighting thing that was revealed from the doxxing, but the way they went about it was so wrong. They were silent during the harassment, let her go, then let out a whimpering burp of a response that wouldn't even name Gamergate.

For god sake, Alison Rapp moonlighted as a prostitute while having a old thesis were she defends child pornography. They are not a charity taking care of stupid people.

GROW UP

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« Reply #14611 on: February 10, 2018, 12:36:13 AM »
Wait, did you edit Stufte out as a copy-paste fail, or did he actually say that? :doge

^^

And that's what I mean. People realize the accusation was bullshit. That the people attacking GG were jackasses.

This is after years of media sources trashing it, name dropping it, and trying to bury it. But by the act of continually bringing it up out of nowhere, they draw continued attention to it that only leads normal people to question their honesty and intentions.

You spend years calling gamer nerds the third reich, eventually everyone else realizes it was only nerds recognizing these lunatics as lunatics faster than the rest.

Both sides are shit. Congrats, there's your middle of the road answer.

GamerGate are harassers. They are the shitty side of nerd culture because they don't understand why people would view them as assholes.

Rapp, Wu, Anita, et. al. are shit reporters/women/journalists/whatever you want to call them where 9/10 of the time they're seeking attention and got it by baiting the moronic GamerGate crowd that couldn't see that if they fucking ignored the girls, the girls would've flamed out within a month. Now they are able to claim harassment 24/7 and the stupid fucks continue feeding their harassment claims as if that'll stop them.

The whole thing is shit. What are you trying to prove with this? Why can't you be like Magus if you truly believe in GamerGate and fuck off to the ether?

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« Reply #14612 on: February 10, 2018, 12:37:11 AM »
So the point of gamer gate was that sjws are dumb?  :comeon

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« Reply #14613 on: February 10, 2018, 12:37:48 AM »
what is that idiot yammering on about in regards to Brad Wardell?

HE BROUGHT BEES! BEEEEEES! BEEEEEEEEEEEEES

edit: i should link

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4376562/

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« Reply #14614 on: February 10, 2018, 12:39:01 AM »
Wait, did you edit Stufte out as a copy-paste fail, or did he actually say that? :doge

Copy paste fail.

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« Reply #14615 on: February 10, 2018, 12:44:31 AM »
Wait, did you edit Stufte out as a copy-paste fail, or did he actually say that? :doge

^^

And that's what I mean. People realize the accusation was bullshit. That the people attacking GG were jackasses.

This is after years of media sources trashing it, name dropping it, and trying to bury it. But by the act of continually bringing it up out of nowhere, they draw continued attention to it that only leads normal people to question their honesty and intentions.

You spend years calling gamer nerds the third reich, eventually everyone else realizes it was only nerds recognizing these lunatics as lunatics faster than the rest.

Both sides are shit. Congrats, there's your middle of the road answer.

GamerGate are harassers. They are the shitty side of nerd culture because they don't understand why people would view them as assholes.

Rapp, Wu, Anita, et. al. are shit reporters/women/journalists/whatever you want to call them where 9/10 of the time they're seeking attention and got it by baiting the moronic GamerGate crowd that couldn't see that if they fucking ignored the girls, the girls would've flamed out within a month. Now they are able to claim harassment 24/7 and the stupid fucks continue feeding their harassment claims as if that'll stop them.

The whole thing is shit. What are you trying to prove with this? Why can't you be like Magus if you truly believe in GamerGate and fuck off to the ether?

You don't believe this. You know its not true. You can go to KiA right now and know its not true. You know its the press that gave those fakes attention.

And this is fatherly advice, if you keep up that lie for no reason then it will be of no good to you. There's no reason to keep up that nonsense.

There is a pattern. An investment/reward system. As a popular lie starts, the reward for going on with the lie is high and the effort to continue the lie is small. As time passes, the effort investment and the social reward go in opposite directions. Eventually, the lie is far more taxing than the social reward. Just ditch the lie.

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« Reply #14616 on: February 10, 2018, 12:52:20 AM »
KiA is full of bitchbabies, but if it's supposed to be representative of what Reee thinks gamergate is... well it's doing a poor job of "coordinated, targeted harassment"

It's mostly "REEEEEEEEEEE THIS PUBLICATION/JOURNALIST/DEV IS AN ESSJAYDUBS, FUCKING LAME"

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« Reply #14617 on: February 10, 2018, 12:57:57 AM »
Wait, did you edit Stufte out as a copy-paste fail, or did he actually say that? :doge

^^

And that's what I mean. People realize the accusation was bullshit. That the people attacking GG were jackasses.

This is after years of media sources trashing it, name dropping it, and trying to bury it. But by the act of continually bringing it up out of nowhere, they draw continued attention to it that only leads normal people to question their honesty and intentions.

You spend years calling gamer nerds the third reich, eventually everyone else realizes it was only nerds recognizing these lunatics as lunatics faster than the rest.

Both sides are shit. Congrats, there's your middle of the road answer.

GamerGate are harassers. They are the shitty side of nerd culture because they don't understand why people would view them as assholes.

Rapp, Wu, Anita, et. al. are shit reporters/women/journalists/whatever you want to call them where 9/10 of the time they're seeking attention and got it by baiting the moronic GamerGate crowd that couldn't see that if they fucking ignored the girls, the girls would've flamed out within a month. Now they are able to claim harassment 24/7 and the stupid fucks continue feeding their harassment claims as if that'll stop them.

The whole thing is shit. What are you trying to prove with this? Why can't you be like Magus if you truly believe in GamerGate and fuck off to the ether?

You don't believe this.

lol, there are entire chat logs documented of KiA strategizing, screenshot of death threats, etc. Anyone who browsed 4chan knew what happened under the scene before GG became mainstream anyway. Of course KiA claims"they are fake" or "not true gatos", but your distinguished mentally-challenged movement is entirely anonymous and uncoordinated, there is no such a thing as a "true gator".

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>Black Panther thread
>Milo thread
>Another black panther thread
>Comic book thread
>ANOTHER black panther thread
>#Metoo thread by C. Hoffman

E-ethics of game j-jounalism? 

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« Reply #14618 on: February 10, 2018, 12:59:48 AM »
banana, why do you come here when you know I will melt you like a birthday candle?

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« Reply #14619 on: February 10, 2018, 01:02:21 AM »
banana, why do you come here when you know I will melt you like a birthday candle?
Epic, upvoted.

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« Reply #14620 on: February 10, 2018, 01:02:51 AM »
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Last post I'll make on this, because it's pretty off topic now, but it was because she was an outspoken woman on social media, and Gamergate needed a target for their ire in the wake of both Tokyo Mirage Sessions' mild censorship and Fates' editing. Rapp had nothing to do with the censorship, she was in marketing. The harassment had gone on for months before the doxxing found her moonlighting and her VERY dubious thesis and accompanying tweets. She would post compilations of the kind of harassment she was getting, and Nintendo would continue to do and say nothing.

Like I'm not a fan of her whole viewpoints on child exploitation in media, it's a bit distressing. They could get her out because of her old tweets and moonlighting. What really bothered me most is that a woman employee at Nintendo was being harassed for months and Nintendo did nothing. Honestly, I think it will happen again. Something will get editted in the next Fire Emblem game for Switch, and there will be a new scapegoat, and they'll be harassed, and based on what happened to Rapp, they'll probably get no support from their company.

Yeah, ask the corporation to defend a low level employee in stupid internet fights involving prostitution and child pornography.

Stop being a dishonest asshole,

Brianna Wu pulled some dumb shit, Gamergate will probably use this as an excuse to harass her even more. Neither action absolves the other but I don't see how this justifies Gamergate and their bullshit in anyway.

HAHAHAHAHA

Dude, she is running for congress with a platform only based on "I got harassed by GG". You dont even now half of the shit she pulled while being "harassed". There is a reason why Resetera doesnt like her.

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« Reply #14621 on: February 10, 2018, 01:04:21 AM »
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Last post I'll make on this, because it's pretty off topic now, but it was because she was an outspoken woman on social media, and Gamergate needed a target for their ire in the wake of both Tokyo Mirage Sessions' mild censorship and Fates' editing. Rapp had nothing to do with the censorship, she was in marketing. The harassment had gone on for months before the doxxing found her moonlighting and her VERY dubious thesis and accompanying tweets. She would post compilations of the kind of harassment she was getting, and Nintendo would continue to do and say nothing.

Like I'm not a fan of her whole viewpoints on child exploitation in media, it's a bit distressing. They could get her out because of her old tweets and moonlighting. What really bothered me most is that a woman employee at Nintendo was being harassed for months and Nintendo did nothing. Honestly, I think it will happen again. Something will get editted in the next Fire Emblem game for Switch, and there will be a new scapegoat, and they'll be harassed, and based on what happened to Rapp, they'll probably get no support from their company.

Yeah, ask the corporation to defend a low level employee in stupid internet fights involving prostitution and child pornography.

Stop being a dishonest asshole,

I've noped out of that thread for a while, I don't wanna give anyone there the impression that I at all support GG, because I don't want to get doxxed (again).

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« Reply #14622 on: February 10, 2018, 01:07:07 AM »
Whatever though, I'm off to get high and play monster hunter like a REAL gamer. BYE LOSERS!  :doge

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« Reply #14623 on: February 10, 2018, 01:09:16 AM »
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Last post I'll make on this, because it's pretty off topic now, but it was because she was an outspoken woman on social media, and Gamergate needed a target for their ire in the wake of both Tokyo Mirage Sessions' mild censorship and Fates' editing. Rapp had nothing to do with the censorship, she was in marketing. The harassment had gone on for months before the doxxing found her moonlighting and her VERY dubious thesis and accompanying tweets. She would post compilations of the kind of harassment she was getting, and Nintendo would continue to do and say nothing.

Like I'm not a fan of her whole viewpoints on child exploitation in media, it's a bit distressing. They could get her out because of her old tweets and moonlighting. What really bothered me most is that a woman employee at Nintendo was being harassed for months and Nintendo did nothing. Honestly, I think it will happen again. Something will get editted in the next Fire Emblem game for Switch, and there will be a new scapegoat, and they'll be harassed, and based on what happened to Rapp, they'll probably get no support from their company.


Yeah, ask the corporation to defend a low level employee in stupid internet fights involving prostitution and child pornography.

Stop being a dishonest asshole,

I've noped out of that thread for a while, I don't wanna give anyone there the impression that I at all support GG, because I don't want to get doxxed (again).

You should at least tell that MattMatusalen dude that he should not silence women.

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« Reply #14624 on: February 10, 2018, 01:10:04 AM »
When did etiolate become an anime villain?

When did you start to passive aggressively liking anti-etiolate posts like a coward?

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14625 on: February 10, 2018, 01:13:06 AM »
As for what you tried as a retort:

the chat  logs are of a chat room that Zoe was a part of and predate KiA. It's actually just Zoe and one of her net circles making fun of Zoe. If you think thats awful then you have to all send me to the United Nations for testimony.  There are no screens of real gg death threats. The FBI. The fuckign F B I, had to waste time and energy investigating these Gamergate claims and found a few SA forum posters sending copy/pasta to Anita. It was trolling. The internet is full of jackasses. If you special fellow out on the net, expect them to come for you. It reflects nothing on gaming or what gets called gamergate. it is human behavior, as is talentless hacks crying wolf.

You listed KiA topics. None about attacking women. Nothing like that. Just a cycle of current news. It's as if the GG community moved on to other things and the other side is left with lying about an old man for congressional votes. Because they have nothing on their resume but playing victim.

Take my advice. Nobody cares you lied in the past. They should, but they don't. You're not important. You went along with bullshit for the ease of it. Stop lying, laugh at yourself and laugh at Wu. You're all too tiny to be held account.




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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14626 on: February 10, 2018, 01:24:49 AM »
Wait, did you edit Stufte out as a copy-paste fail, or did he actually say that? :doge

^^

And that's what I mean. People realize the accusation was bullshit. That the people attacking GG were jackasses.

This is after years of media sources trashing it, name dropping it, and trying to bury it. But by the act of continually bringing it up out of nowhere, they draw continued attention to it that only leads normal people to question their honesty and intentions.

You spend years calling gamer nerds the third reich, eventually everyone else realizes it was only nerds recognizing these lunatics as lunatics faster than the rest.

Both sides are shit. Congrats, there's your middle of the road answer.

GamerGate are harassers. They are the shitty side of nerd culture because they don't understand why people would view them as assholes.

Rapp, Wu, Anita, et. al. are shit reporters/women/journalists/whatever you want to call them where 9/10 of the time they're seeking attention and got it by baiting the moronic GamerGate crowd that couldn't see that if they fucking ignored the girls, the girls would've flamed out within a month. Now they are able to claim harassment 24/7 and the stupid fucks continue feeding their harassment claims as if that'll stop them.

The whole thing is shit. What are you trying to prove with this? Why can't you be like Magus if you truly believe in GamerGate and fuck off to the ether?

You don't believe this. You know its not true. You can go to KiA right now and know its not true. You know its the press that gave those fakes attention.

And this is fatherly advice, if you keep up that lie for no reason then it will be of no good to you. There's no reason to keep up that nonsense.

There is a pattern. An investment/reward system. As a popular lie starts, the reward for going on with the lie is high and the effort to continue the lie is small. As time passes, the effort investment and the social reward go in opposite directions. Eventually, the lie is far more taxing than the social reward. Just ditch the lie.

Yes it is true. There is numerous postings from women being harassed by men (that aren't employees in Tech or Video Games) because "they're attacking muh loli pedo games and we can't have that!" The underlined bit is so "false flag! CRISIS ACTOR!" Up-Your-InfoWars-Ass that me bothering to reply to you about this isn't really worth my while because I know I won't change your mind.

It does not fucking matter one bit what KiA is right this very fucking minute since at the start of GG: 8chan, 4chan (but m00t booted them to 8chan), KiA and some other shitty subreddit did harass women. You can't sweep that under the rug with the "false flag!" reasoning. If you're going to do that, you're just as bad as Hillary/co. thinking Russia alone is what sunk her "slam-dunk victory!"

Again: If you truly believe what you're writing, go fuck off like Magus and save us from this bullshit mental gymnastics to try to prove GG was "right" about anything beyond Anita and crew being shitstirrers that got fame (off their dumbasses).

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14627 on: February 10, 2018, 01:28:34 AM »
timu

you are entering sunk cost fallacy territory

You just compared a bunch of twitter accounts  to InfoWar crisis actors conspiracies.

Think about that.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14628 on: February 10, 2018, 01:32:49 AM »
You just compared a bunch of twitter accounts  to InfoWar crisis actors conspiracies.

I'm comparing a bunch of twitter accounts because you're going "Oh, but they aren't harassing now! that surely proves my point about them not being harassers right!"

Which totally fucking ignores that "GamerGaters" (who can't be pegged as "real" or not, hence Crisis actor conspiracies for your logic of trying to say there weren't harassers) did harass women. It was far more than Antia, Wu, and what's-her-face/3 women. All women that spoke-up or so much as said "I don't agree with this mentality that you want to push because I don't think it's good" were harassed.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14629 on: February 10, 2018, 01:35:04 AM »
As for what you tried as a retort:

the chat  logs are of a chat room that Zoe was a part of and predate KiA. It's actually just Zoe and one of her net circles making fun of Zoe.

Oh, so that's the narrative nowadays? I thought it was GG and the bad ones were just trolls. The narrative (I know you love that word!) keeps shifting.

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If you special fellow out on the net, expect them to come for you. It reflects nothing on gaming or what gets called gamergate. it is human behavior, as is talentless hacks crying wolf.
Ok, so death threads did happen? How did you know they weren't from gators. Because you claim so? Are you seriously suggesting everyone involved with GG didn't send anything to Anita and co.?  Weird given they write wikias with their infos, special fellow about them for years, make edits like this:




But actual threats? Lordy, no!


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It's as if the GG community moved on to other things and the other side is left with lying about an old man for congressional votes. Because they have nothing on their resume but playing victim.
So GG is not about game journalism? I wonder why they are so focused on stuff like Black Panther, though...  :doge

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Take my advice. Nobody cares you lied in the past. They should, but they don't. You're not important. You went along with bullshit for the ease of it. Stop lying, laugh at yourself and laugh at Wu. You're all too tiny to be held account.
I can laugh at Wu while laugh at muh ethics of jounalism and muh sjw from /pol/tard trying to push regressive politics in medias.

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Funny, I think GG is one of the most easily offended groups of them all. I mean, for a group of people who claim stuff like "it's just a gaaaaameeeeee", they sure love to special fellow about random shitty blogs for hours and days.


Are you going to make a KiA thread about how mean we were to you and how the bore is full of Sexy Japanese Warriors, by the way?

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14630 on: February 10, 2018, 01:37:25 AM »
Anyone can be harassed. Technically, this forum harasses me every fucking day. Depite taking Warith out and having a sit-down, I don't complain about it much in comparison to the vitriol I get.

Because I don't pretend to not understand the internet when its beneficial to me.

You are making claims that you don;t' know to be true. Stop being a kid. Grow up. You are investing heavily into a lie that has no more social reward. Nobody cares if you don't carry the flag against Gamergate anymore.

I am urging you to give up the lie because this path of dishonesty goes straight to insanity.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14631 on: February 10, 2018, 01:43:08 AM »
I wonder how many people are being crazy off the deep end with "social justice" Because they think they need to in order to fit in or not get banned? I know that's what I did when I first joined GAF. Most of my shitting on GTAV was that. With ResetEra I've dropped all pretense, it's probably why I've been warned and banned for being "aggressive" and "wishing violence on politicians".
This makes sense. I noticed you going from a normal person to a complete moonchild. (I always recognized you cause I liked the Daniel Jackson avatar)

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14632 on: February 10, 2018, 01:43:24 AM »
Yes it is true. There is numerous postings from women being harassed by men (that aren't employees in Tech or Video Games) because "they're attacking muh loli pedo games and we can't have that!" The underlined bit is so "false flag! CRISIS ACTOR!" Up-Your-InfoWars-Ass that me bothering to reply to you about this isn't really worth my while because I know I won't change your mind.

It does not fucking matter one bit what KiA is right this very fucking minute since at the start of GG: 8chan, 4chan (but m00t booted them to 8chan), KiA and some other shitty subreddit did harass women. You can't sweep that under the rug with the "false flag!" reasoning. If you're going to do that, you're just as bad as Hillary/co. thinking Russia alone is what sunk her "slam-dunk victory!"

Again: If you truly believe what you're writing, go fuck off like Magus and save us from this bullshit mental gymnastics to try to prove GG was "right" about anything beyond Anita and crew being shitstirrers that got fame (off their dumbasses).


Goddamn, you're one intellectually dishonest mofo. Someone after the Jordan Peterson interview checked death threats and harassment on the twitter accounts (iirc) of both Peterson and Cathy Newman. He found more harassment and way more death threats against Peterson than Newman. You know why the media didn't cover this and only whined about poor Cathy's harassment? Because Peterson isn't a poor. defenseless. FEMALE. victim. Plus, you know, Peterson isn't on their side and he isn't absolutely pathetic so he never whined about it to score sympathy points.

The fact is that people from gamergate have been doxxed, lost their jobs, received death threats, harassed and so on. The fact is that people like you are being intentionally obtuse about the reality of both sides having assholes that do this stuff. It could even be argued that the SJ W side has many more of these assholes but it's ignored because your precious corporate media don't cover the harassment.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14633 on: February 10, 2018, 01:43:38 AM »
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Are you going to make a KiA thread about how mean we were to you and how the bore is full of Sexy Japanese Warriors, by the way?

Laughing Banana, you are not much better than him.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14634 on: February 10, 2018, 01:51:24 AM »
Optimus is right. The Peterson harassment narrative is the same exact dishonest playbook.

By this time, too many people recognize the lie. My advice is


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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14635 on: February 10, 2018, 02:12:34 AM »
Gamergate in 2018


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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14636 on: February 10, 2018, 02:19:59 AM »
STOP FIGHTING! People need to look for reasons to love each other, not hate each other.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14637 on: February 10, 2018, 02:22:57 AM »
Youngblood?


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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14638 on: February 10, 2018, 02:26:18 AM »
Youngblood?

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Which of the Neogaf scab mods do you think he is?
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14639 on: February 10, 2018, 02:29:43 AM »
Youngblood?

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Which of the Neogaf scab mods do you think he is?

What if Youngblood was Thug1 all along?  :mindblown

What if Youngblood was Benji's sock puppet account, that malevolent fuck.