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Optimus

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14820 on: February 11, 2018, 06:25:42 PM »
Also, no woman called me a faggot for playing with Barbie dolls as a kid. Boys did. No girl called me a taco for having feminine behavior. Boys did. Part of the reason men cannot express themselves is because of...other men. A man won’t call me his girlfriend publicly to his friends even though he loves me because he doesn’t want to be called a taco if they find out I was born male. Men made their bed. That is their creation. This is also a common feminist talking point so thanks for fighting the power. :salute


By nature men have serious flaws and so do women. We can acknowledge them and address them without being biased fucks and only focusing on one sex's disadvantages. I've repeatedly witnessed women have them most toxic fucked up friendships and almost exclusively passive-aggressively shame each other about weight and sex. Why don't fucking feminists address the issue of toxic femininity?

The feminist distinguished mentally-challenged fellows constantly whine about slut shaming. Who do you think shames sluts all the time? You really think it's men? What the fuck would we gain from it when we have so much to lose?

And for the record I'm fine with not showing certain emotions to other people, it's not their fucking business. If other men want to do it I'm fine with that but I don't want a fucking movement to tell me what's good for me.

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« Reply #14821 on: February 11, 2018, 06:26:49 PM »
Also, no woman called me a faggot for playing with Barbie dolls as a kid. Boys did. No girl called me a taco for having feminine behavior. Boys did. Part of the reason men cannot express themselves is because of...other men. A man won’t call me his girlfriend publicly to his friends even though he loves me because he doesn’t want to be called a taco if they find out I was born male. Men made their bed. That is their creation. Their is their sickness. This is also a common feminist talking point so thanks for fighting the power. :salute

Is this an actual example that has happened to  or projection

It happened. Black men can be very sensitive even though they’re the sexiest men on Earth.
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« Reply #14822 on: February 11, 2018, 06:34:10 PM »
Hey ratards

This thread is for making fun of ratards

Not for becoming the ratard
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etiolate

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« Reply #14823 on: February 11, 2018, 06:37:23 PM »

TVC15

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« Reply #14824 on: February 11, 2018, 06:37:34 PM »
Also, no woman called me a faggot for playing with Barbie dolls as a kid. Boys did. No girl called me a taco for having feminine behavior. Boys did. Part of the reason men cannot express themselves is because of...other men. A man won’t call me his girlfriend publicly to his friends even though he loves me because he doesn’t want to be called a taco if they find out I was born male. Men made their bed. That is their creation. Their is their sickness. This is also a common feminist talking point so thanks for fighting the power. :salute

Is this an actual example that has happened to  or projection

It happened. Black men can be very sensitive even though they’re the sexiest men on Earth.

Someone has clearly not seen the Drag Race Thailand Pit Crew. 
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agrajag

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« Reply #14825 on: February 11, 2018, 06:40:38 PM »
I know plenty of women that will use the word taco at the drop of a hat and make fun of down low men and such.

Tasty

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« Reply #14826 on: February 11, 2018, 06:47:50 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻

Jansen

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« Reply #14827 on: February 11, 2018, 06:54:26 PM »
i hope everyone who posts about politics itt has a potato cannon shoved up their ass and has porcupines fired into it

Optimus

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14828 on: February 11, 2018, 06:58:23 PM »
i hope everyone who posts about politics itt has a potato cannon shoved up their ass and has porcupines fired into it


I have the potato cannon but can't find porcupines in my area. Anyway, like I said before very few people seem to actually visit that shithole now to post their insanity so expect more general discussion itt otherwise the thread will wither and die.

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« Reply #14829 on: February 11, 2018, 06:59:35 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻

Let it all burn! :lol

etiolate

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« Reply #14830 on: February 11, 2018, 07:03:43 PM »
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-difference-between-masculinity-and-toxic-masculinity_us_59842e3ce4b0f2c7d93f54ce

This article attempts to make the argument made by others here.

And is why such an attempt is dishonest at its core.

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How can we hope to stop violent sexual behavior if violence and sexuality are still considered primary virtues of manhood?

According to who? Anyone other than the people who keep saying  toxic masculinity? This is such an immature view of how men are viewed.

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We insist on male dominance, that the physically stronger gender is the superior one—an idea rooted in times of spear-throwing and sword-fighting rather than present day, where machines do most of the building, hunting and fighting for us

Do we? Who does?

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Toxic masculinity in American culture starts with straight, white men and trickles down through marginalized groups, affecting the way they perceive themselves and behave. We can’t examine straight African-American men’s behavior, for example, without first examining the white power structure that influenced it. And we can’t separate how black men treat women from how white men treat black men.

And here comes that intersectional feminism.

The wikipedia article for Toxic Masculinity... is pretty much what I say about it.

And the interesting part about all of this is that this it's all focused on blaming men. Toxic masculinity hurts men, but men are to blame, as if the other gender hasn't been involved in this formation for hundreds upon hundreds of years.  If violence and sex define men, according to these people, and this hurts everyone then how the fuck does 50 shades of grey fit into this world view?

Optimus

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14831 on: February 11, 2018, 07:03:56 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻


I'm not a conservative you fucking delusional imbecile. And before you try it, I actually checked who quoted the post.

etiolate

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14832 on: February 11, 2018, 07:09:58 PM »
If you're a communist, then the only person you trolling is yourself.

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« Reply #14833 on: February 11, 2018, 07:10:43 PM »
The market decides and women make 90% of consumer decisions.

Our 'dads' were too busy with drinking, fighting wars and their jobs and shit, you made this world ladies.


If you're a communist, then the only person you trolling is yourself.
There's two sorts of people in this day and age I don't understand still exist. Clowns and communists.
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agrajag

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« Reply #14834 on: February 11, 2018, 07:13:13 PM »
I like capitalism because in a capitalist society you can still choose to live on a commune with and live out your fantasy, but if you live in a communist society and you don't like it, tough shit. I actually know a guy that's a very popular bread baker down here that used to live in a commune with a bunch of dirty hippies.

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« Reply #14835 on: February 11, 2018, 07:15:32 PM »
I like capitalism because in a capitalist society you can still choose to live on a commune with and live out your fantasy, but if you live in a communist society and you don't like it, tough shit. I actually know a guy that's a very popular bread baker down here that used to live in a commune with a bunch of dirty hippies.
Yep, that's great about it.

Capitalism: If you can fund it you can do it
Communism: if you can fund it GULAG!

Capitalism: If you can't fund it, you're shit out of luck
Communism: Also GULAG!
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jorma

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14836 on: February 11, 2018, 07:17:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/youtube-shows-polish-propaganda-commercial.22548/page-2#post-4425292
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Why is poland pushing for xenophobic policies. Do they have a migrant issue?


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Not really, they have a problem regarding resettlement of migrants/refugee.
They also have a lack of workers but they prefer
WAT, a lack of workers in Poland? How is migration going to fix that anyway, 90% of the folks who entered Germany are unemployed and on welfare benefits.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-survey/only-13-percent-of-recent-refugees-in-germany-have-found-work-survey-idUSKBN13A22F

Come on breh, the polish migrating to germany aren't unemployed and they aren't refugees. EU-migrants have a higher employment rate than native born in the EU (i don't know about Germany specifically, but i don't see any reason why they should be different).
When they move to Germany it's because that's where they landed a job.



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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14837 on: February 11, 2018, 07:23:58 PM »
This place is like areer now. Same dumb shit, only in reverse ideology.  :doge

Oblivion

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14838 on: February 11, 2018, 07:32:04 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻


I'm not a conservative you fucking delusional imbecile.

Classical liberal?

Optimus

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« Reply #14839 on: February 11, 2018, 07:38:25 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻


I'm not a conservative you fucking delusional imbecile.

Classical liberal?


Anti-authoritarian leftist and actually very progressive. Just because I dislike the authoritarian intersectional loons and their vast hypocrisy doesn't mean I'm a fucking conservative but that's the box the usual suspects like to put people that call out their bullshit.

Tasty

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« Reply #14840 on: February 11, 2018, 07:39:00 PM »
And I landed the trick shot. :rejoice

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14841 on: February 11, 2018, 07:39:29 PM »
All this talk about boy feelings when I just wanted to call Cindi dumb for thinking guys don’t have to work to get laid.

 :reeeee :reeeee :reeeee  :reeeee :reeeee :reeeee

Optimus

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14843 on: February 11, 2018, 07:43:22 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻


I'm not a conservative you fucking delusional imbecile.

Classical liberal?


Anti-authoritarian leftist and actually very progressive. Just because I dislike the authoritarian intersectional loons and their vast hypocrisy doesn't mean I'm a fucking conservative but that's the box the usual suspects like to put people that call out their bullshit.

So pretty much yes, then. Basically like Sargon of Akkad.

Tasty

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« Reply #14844 on: February 11, 2018, 07:47:38 PM »
And I landed the trick shot. :rejoice

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/738/025/db0.jpg

This is pretty much your posting style yes, though I'm surprised you'd out yourself so blatantly. 😘

Optimus

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« Reply #14845 on: February 11, 2018, 07:54:13 PM »
So pretty much yes, then. Basically like Sargon of Akkad.

Nah, I'm somewhere between socialism and social democracy so I'm definitely not a classical liberal, although I don't have a problem with them. What really ticks me off usually is authoritarians from any side, I hate everything about them, their behavior towards open debate and free speech, their tactics and their complete lack of self-awareness which results in vast amounts of hypocrisy and lack of objectivity.

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« Reply #14846 on: February 11, 2018, 08:00:51 PM »
lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻

etiolate isn't a conservative. I don't know what he is...

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14848 on: February 11, 2018, 08:15:41 PM »
I'm a Boreservative  :doge

TVC15

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14849 on: February 11, 2018, 08:17:59 PM »
Guys plz take discussion here

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45425.0

This, but also this thread is approaching toilet threshold. I suggest it’s time for a reboot, with an OP with plenty of red text telling us what is appropriate to be discussed in the thread.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14850 on: February 11, 2018, 08:24:01 PM »
Somehow this single post by an avatar-less junior triggered three of our resident conservative alts on the same page. Congrats breh. 👏🏻
Sphagnum is a junior on this forum but a senior troll in real life. Also in my top 5 for posters on any forum. <3

Thank you, I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

Oblivion

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14851 on: February 11, 2018, 08:24:51 PM »
"Please keep politics out of this thread that's dedicated to laughing at feminists and SJWs"


Rufus

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14853 on: February 11, 2018, 08:29:53 PM »
My (impossible) suggestion: don't bump it unless you're posting a link or directly addressing a posted link.

TVC15

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14854 on: February 11, 2018, 08:30:17 PM »
Aja from Drag Race had a new chin installed after her first season and she looks sooooo much better.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14855 on: February 11, 2018, 08:39:17 PM »
Also, no woman called me a faggot for playing with Barbie dolls as a kid. Boys did. No girl called me a taco for having feminine behavior. Boys did. Part of the reason men cannot express themselves is because of...other men. A man won’t call me his girlfriend publicly to his friends even though he loves me because he doesn’t want to be called a taco if they find out I was born male. Men made their bed. That is their creation. Their is their sickness. This is also a common feminist talking point so thanks for fighting the power. :salute

Is this an actual example that has happened to  or projection

It can happen. Even in 2018, despite head is head™: Men can not seem "gay" to other men. Especially men of color. PD and Himu could tell you more, but there's a huge segment of "down-low" black men having sex with other black men but afraid to actually say it out-loud.

If you ignore the PoC (:doge ) bit, it's still the same in highly male fields like the military.

Jansen

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14856 on: February 11, 2018, 08:40:04 PM »
"Please keep politics out of this thread that's dedicated to laughing at feminists and Social Studies Warriors"


agrajag

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14857 on: February 11, 2018, 08:42:04 PM »
FernandoRocker is Leafy?

 :ohhh

Olivia Wilde Homo

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14858 on: February 11, 2018, 09:18:54 PM »
Holy hell, I didn't think this thread could get any worse but you guys continue to reach new lows.  Good jon, guys
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FUME5

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« Reply #14859 on: February 11, 2018, 09:42:09 PM »
What board do I need to sign up to so that I can get the meta commentary on this place?

agrajag

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« Reply #14860 on: February 11, 2018, 09:48:56 PM »
Holy hell, I didn't think this thread could get any worse but you guys continue to reach new lows.  Good jon, guys

For you, the arguing with Optimus and Etiolate about MRA's and Toxic Masculinity made the thread worse than ever. But for us, it was Sunday.

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« Reply #14861 on: February 11, 2018, 09:49:32 PM »
What board do I need to sign up to so that I can get the meta commentary on this place?

If you want to save time follow Lime on resetera and change your settings so you get notifications when he posts. It's like having your own dumb-post early detection system.

FUME5

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« Reply #14862 on: February 11, 2018, 09:53:15 PM »
What board do I need to sign up to so that I can get the meta commentary on this place?

If you want to save time follow Lime on resetera and change your settings so you get notifications when he posts. It's like having your own dumb-post early detection system.

Fuck that I like to be surprised.

Can someone be mean to Etoliate so I can get to liking that shit.

Clockwork5

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14863 on: February 11, 2018, 09:54:35 PM »
Never said that men aren’t hit with self esteem issues. My main contention is that men, in my experience, do not have nearly the same set of body image difficulties as women. Men being hit with depression and Suicide rates is real and it’s important, but I don’t attribute that to body image. I thought the topic was bad body image, not low self esteem in general?

There's a lot of problems in man-world but no one is really allowed to discuss them without being considered anti-feminist.
After all, straight white males are all privileged and shouldn't complain about anything.

lol this is incredibly dumb and couldn't be further from the truth. You literally just had a good post about the effects of toxic masculinity, which feminists talk about all the time  and then shit the bed at the end.

 :snoop

the toxic masculinity take is part of the problem

Let's do a quick rundown. Men should be allowed to cry if they need to cry. Good. However, if everyone is crying and unable to stand up and handle a problem? That's bad. Toxic masculinity theory doesn't understand that the sentiment that represses emotions also serves a social good. You sometimes do need to put aside emotional displays for the good of everyone. That is also masculinity and its not toxic. It's beneficial to the group. What is toxic is punishing or not appreciating that behavior and calling it toxic with great carelessness.

Whether you agree or disagree with the idea of toxic masculinity, or to what degree any of it might be toxic, you need to understand the scope of the term.  That is, it's not a statement that all masculinity is toxic, just that parts of it are.  That's why it's a condemnation against toxic masculinity rather than just masculinity.

So making a statement about how sometimes it's ok to cry and sometimes people need to repress emotions and get the job done isn't an argument against toxic masculinity, it's sort of agreeing with the main thrust of conversation surrounding it.  The toxic bit is the part where no guy anywhere is supposed to cry.

Now, maybe you think feminists are trying to say that men need to be able to cry in all situations more often than they do now, and you just think they should feel comfortable in crying just a bit more often.  Like I said the degree to which it's a problem is up for debate.  But understand that toxic masculinity =/= all masculinity is toxic.

A term is meaningless if it takes on the level of ambiguity you have just ascribed to "toxic masculinity"

Why not actually articulate the specific detrimental elements of masculinity when shaping an argument around those specific elements?  Why would a generalized term, which when used must be interpreted by the listener, be clearer and more concise than actually communicating what parts of that ambiguous term you are alluding to?

It's a lazy term. It's easy to shout and get people to nod their heads.

It's not used to engage in a dialectic, it is used by insecure preachers of feminism who are too scared or stupid to actually say something of substance .




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« Reply #14864 on: February 11, 2018, 10:05:34 PM »
What board do I need to sign up to so that I can get the meta commentary on this place?
Pls follow me @BoreShitPosts
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FUME5

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« Reply #14865 on: February 11, 2018, 10:12:36 PM »
What board do I need to sign up to so that I can get the meta commentary on this place?
Pls follow me @BoreShitPosts

I feel like our fashion sense is just too disparate for that to work.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14866 on: February 11, 2018, 10:18:51 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/4435390/
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I know I'm ugly.

Someone on tinder matched with me just to tell me that.
Ayyyyy lmao

etiolate

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14867 on: February 11, 2018, 10:21:08 PM »
damn



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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14870 on: February 11, 2018, 10:36:38 PM »
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/if-you-want-to-cheat-on-your-girl-wear-gear-of-a-team-she-knows-you-hate.609334/
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14872 on: February 11, 2018, 10:48:44 PM »
A term is meaningless if it takes on the level of ambiguity you have just ascribed to "toxic masculinity"
It's a very simple noun phrase following a common pattern, consisting of an adjctive "toxic" and a noun "masculinity", i.e. masculinity, subcategory toxic. There's absolutely no ambiguity there. What's unclear, however, is what it denotes, but like all words, it becomes clear when you learn its meaning(s).

Trying to criticise a particular usage by particular people this way is absurd, as you're indicting language as such. All you've done is to create a hypocritically hollow template to lambast any an all contested terms and/or groups. Just substitute whatever, like, say "neo-liberalism"; to name a completely random example.

If you don't care to find out what it means or want to shit on people who use it, just do that instead, but don't grandstand with nonsense such as this...
Why would a generalized term, which when used must be interpreted by the listener, be clearer and more concise than actually communicating what parts of that ambiguous term you are alluding to?
...with a straight face. Condescending spoiler:
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It's not used to engage in a dialectic, it is used by [insert whom or whatever] who are too scared or stupid to actually say something of substance .
This is a great sentence though, in isolation. I'm highlighting it for no reason whatsoever, because I'm a petty little cunt. :doge
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Momo

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14873 on: February 11, 2018, 10:50:24 PM »
why do i have to plead with you fuckers everyday to knock this shit off? :goldberg

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14874 on: February 11, 2018, 10:57:39 PM »
why do i have to plead with you fuckers everyday to knock this shit off? :goldberg
Because you're always late, Momes.

Uncle

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14875 on: February 12, 2018, 12:01:59 AM »
A term is meaningless if it takes on the level of ambiguity you have just ascribed to "toxic masculinity"

Why not actually articulate the specific detrimental elements of masculinity when shaping an argument around those specific elements?  Why would a generalized term, which when used must be interpreted by the listener, be clearer and more concise than actually communicating what parts of that ambiguous term you are alluding to?

It's a lazy term. It's easy to shout and get people to nod their heads.

It's not used to engage in a dialectic, it is used by insecure preachers of feminism who are too scared or stupid to actually say something of substance .
I know the thread is trying to move on from this shit, but I agree.

I don't want to be known as the guy who applauds/defends the use of toxic masculinity.  I was just calling out someone who seemed to misunderstand its intended use and wanted to argue against a strawman version of it.

If anything it's a bad term because you have to explain it like that, since in a vacuum people WILL think it means "all masculinity is toxic."  And other good points were brought up too, of course there are elements of femininity that are toxic too but you don't hear that brought up as a buzzword.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14876 on: February 12, 2018, 12:26:46 AM »
My experience with toxic masculinity is that I'm a closeted bisexual, now and forever, because I know my interactions with people are different when they know the truth.

Cause your male friends who find out are now worried that you want to fuck em?

Momo

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14877 on: February 12, 2018, 12:32:40 AM »

WELL FINE. AT LEAST I'LL KILL THIS THREAD MYSELF WITH A LETHAL DOSE OF POISON

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14878 on: February 12, 2018, 12:39:53 AM »

WELL FINE. AT LEAST I'LL KILL THIS THREAD MYSELF WITH A LETHAL DOSE OF POISON

You don't know what poison is.


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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #14879 on: February 12, 2018, 12:39:54 AM »
My experience with toxic masculinity is that I'm a closeted bisexual, now and forever, because I know my interactions with people are different when they know the truth.

Cause your male friends who find out are now worried that you want to fuck em?

I think for all of the tolerance even the most resetera warriors champion, when it comes to male bi-sexuals, quite a lot of men turn into mental Mike Pence's at a co-ed dinner if they hear their male friend is bi-sexual.

For woman, the oftentimes subconscious social norms of the ideal male can start wrecking havoc and poison the well before it even begins.