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[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4796410/

Get a hold of yourself.

Honest question since I haven't followed the controversy like at all:

Has that dev guy ever said something about trans people? Or was everything on the level of "stuff relatives on facebook share that you roll your eyes at"?

The director made tweets with a gamergate hashtag. Which isn't the best look, but I haven't seen anthing truly offensive in the "evidence" presented by REEE. His tendency towards the thing seems to be based upon the fact that some US-goons started to trash him because his game portraying medieval central europe doesn't feature african americans. Which then lead to weird REEE narratives about how he thinks anyone but Arians are subhuman and supporting the game equals oppressing minorities.

[nudemacusers]

I can't calm down when my brain is betraying me. 

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I don’t see color 

[Rahxephon91]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4796410/

Get a hold of yourself.

Wait....what does the actual game have to do with transpeople? Not the creator. Not the artists, not the dev. What does the actual game have to do about it? Did I miss something?

User Warned: Downplaying and questioning transphobic behavior.

[nudemacusers]

Telling Cream that Cream's lived experience is invalid is pretty gross, tbh.

then again, so is pedophilia, even in cartoon form

Yes, let’s talk sex crimes since I just read this interesting and disgusting article.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59kye3/the-repulsive-world-of-hurtcore-the-worst-crimes-imaginable

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1) how can you lead a double life as a creep when you look like this?

2) this guy had a long-term girlfriend take a giant L bore permavirgins

Look like this? He’s from the UK. He looks to be about an 8/10 by their standards.

True the uk is full of pedo uggos

[Joe Molotov]

Telling Cream that Cream's lived experience is invalid is pretty gross, tbh.

then again, so is pedophilia, even in cartoon form

Yes, let’s talk sex crimes since I just read this interesting and disgusting article.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59kye3/the-repulsive-world-of-hurtcore-the-worst-crimes-imaginable

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1) how can you lead a double life as a creep when you look like this?

2) this guy had a long-term girlfriend take a giant L bore permavirgins

Look like this? He’s from the UK. He looks to be about an 8/10 by their standards.

True the uk is full of pedo uggos

Excuse me, paedo uaggos.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Next on the bore: What countries have the sexiest pedophiles?

[Marhunchy]

Telling Cream that Cream's lived experience is invalid is pretty gross, tbh.

then again, so is pedophilia, even in cartoon form

Yes, let’s talk sex crimes since I just read this interesting and disgusting article.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59kye3/the-repulsive-world-of-hurtcore-the-worst-crimes-imaginable

Why are you reading this stuff?

Why did i just read this stuff

[Pepinappe]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4797531/

You can almost feel IrishNinja's outrage seeping through the monitor.

 

[BisMarckie]

The director made tweets with a gamergate hashtag. Which isn't the best look, but I haven't seen anthing truly offensive in the "evidence" presented by REEE. His tendency towards the thing seems to be based upon the fact that some US-goons started to trash him because his game portraying medieval central europe doesn't feature african americans. Which then lead to weird REEE narratives about how he thinks anyone but Arians are subhuman and supporting the game equals oppressing minorities.

Thanks!


by the way:
tfw when you want to buy some Coke Zero and all they have is Diet Coke or Pepsi Zero Sugar

[I'm a Puppy!]

Telling Cream that Cream's lived experience is invalid is pretty gross, tbh.

then again, so is pedophilia, even in cartoon form

Yes, let’s talk sex crimes since I just read this interesting and disgusting article.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59kye3/the-repulsive-world-of-hurtcore-the-worst-crimes-imaginable

If only the Death Note were real.

I don't say this often, but man, I'm with Jack on this one.

[Bore Expert]

Who will be the next celebrity guest on the bore? Lime? Evilore?  ?

A collect call from a correctional facility in tobyhanna? 

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4797531/

You can almost feel IrishNinja's outrage seeping through the monitor.

 

irishninja is a little fucking bitch at least cream has the balls to post here

[TVC15]

Telling Cream that Cream's lived experience is invalid is pretty gross, tbh.

then again, so is pedophilia, even in cartoon form

Yes, let’s talk sex crimes since I just read this interesting and disgusting article.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59kye3/the-repulsive-world-of-hurtcore-the-worst-crimes-imaginable

Why are you reading this stuff?

Why did i just read this stuff

I mainline this stuff.

Pittsburgh Lawer sexually abuses dog multiple times
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/02/21/pittsburgh-lawyer-charged-with-dog-sex-abuse/

This one also has amusing comments. Not quite Arkansas-level amusing, though.

[thetylerrob]

Imagine being triggered by Kingdom Come or Black Panthers success though, just imagine how the rest of your life is at that point.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4796410/

Get a hold of yourself.

Crying? Literally crying? Crying because a game made by an edgelord sells well? It's not even like any controversial content is in the game itself.

[Boredfrom]

Telling Cream that Cream's lived experience is invalid is pretty gross, tbh.

then again, so is pedophilia, even in cartoon form

Yes, let’s talk sex crimes since I just read this interesting and disgusting article.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59kye3/the-repulsive-world-of-hurtcore-the-worst-crimes-imaginable

Feels like the plot of a shitty hentai Manga. That is depressing.

[Rahxephon91]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4796410/

Get a hold of yourself.

Honest question since I haven't followed the controversy like at all:

Has that dev guy ever said something about trans people? Or was everything on the level of "stuff relatives on facebook share that you roll your eyes at"?

Heres what I can tell has happened. I also haven't paid super attention.

He doubled down on the decision to not have poc in his game. I guess when questioned on it he pushed the idea that since this is his culture he knows better. And you know what? Who cares? At most I saw people reaching for the argument that a poc could be there. In the end, him and his team set out to make a game reflective of thier cultural identity. Big whoop. What is the problem that this passion and personal project did not insert characters for the sake of diversity? History itself is bias. I'm not going to get mad at someone because they refuse to acknowledge something that seems at best arguable. Varva's main problem I guess was that he refused to do that.

Then as you can understand he sided with gamergate. But honestly it dosent seem to be because of alt right attitudes. He seems to be against censorship hardcore. No surprise seeing where he's from. He seemed to be for gamergate because of its ideas of being against things that try to impose ideas on creators. Which fine. Why I no doubt a lot of people's gamergate shit is a mask for "I don't want my games to change" but there are a lot of creators who were sympathetic to it because they agreed. They didn't like being told to change thier creative vision in the service of overbearing social progressivism. Are they right or wrong? I don't know, but it is an argument to be made and one I can see Varva arguing with. Seeing as his games creative vision is being attacked.

Then he had some bad things to say about Anita S. I don't agree with what he said, but then again I don't agree or care about her. Did they seem a little petty? Sure but the game seems like someone who trolls in exaggerated ways to mock arguments he's against. He did it with the shirt and the image meme with his wife. Again his problem seems to be with people telling him what to do.

The one questionable thing I saw is the twitter post about how the German government treats Arabic imigriants and it's own citizens. But I don't know the issue and while I wouldn't be surprised if he holds some views I don't share. I also know the race and political views are grey and complex. Simply having a view dosent make someone a Nazi. Guess what? My mother made comments about how the US Gov treated Mexican immigrants over American citizens. Is she a nazi? No. Does she have some views that one can argue against? Yes. But she's super liberal and hates trump.

I'm not saying the guy isn't an asshole maybe. I just don't think he's some nazi and the game something that comes from a bad place. It's a controversy over nothing.

 

[Cream]

Man fuck ya’ll mgs2 is the best one.

[nudemacusers]

Next on the bore: What countries have the sexiest pedophiles?

USA female teachers willing to bone teens 

[BisMarckie]

Man fuck ya’ll mgs2 is the best one.

In a world where MGS doesn't exist; sure.

But still:

[I'm a Puppy!]

Man fuck ya’ll mgs2 is the best one.

[Pepinappe]

The mods putting that red shit all over every KC:D OP has become comedy at this point. It just goes to show, that board can't control their extreme left crazies.

 

[thetylerrob]

Man fuck ya’ll mgs2 is the best one.

MGS3 has best gameplay and best story, MGS2 is the best one from a thematic/auteur standpoint and MGS1 is just fucking iconic and good. MGSV is a shitty repetitive unfinished monster hunter spinoff for babbyz.

[Great Rumbler]

Are there even any black people in the Czech Republic?

[james]

Is it transphobic to ask someone if they have a penis

[HaughtyFrank]

Is it transphobic to ask someone if they have a penis

Is it penis to ask someone if they have transphobia?

[tuna_love]

Man fuck ya’ll mgs2 is the best one.

[TVC15]

TVC I know you've been stressed out lately but I don't think the shit you're doing is helping you psychologically.

I chase the miserable stories with pornography. I take care of myself.

[thetylerrob]

If enough people dogpile irishninja in that thread will he catch a ban? I want him to come here.

[Joe Molotov]

Fellas, is gay to have a penis? You’re basically touching a penis all day.

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4797826/

I see we're back to calling everyone who bought the game a racist/nazi/whatever's the hot new name to abuse.

The game got virtually no attention anywhere until it blew up on twitch around release day. It'd be wrong to assume most of the 1 million knew about Vavra at all let alone that they'd agree with him or whatever. You guys really need to learn just how much of a bubble gaf/Era is.
 

BANNED !
 

The CD's politics are standard garbage white straight male Trump voting shitheel GG fare

Czech people can vote now in US Federal elections? Trump was right, voter fraud is out of control.

I love how they add "Continued history of...." in every ban message now to show everyone how bad of an apple they finally caught.

[nudemacusers]

Fellas, is gay to have a penis? You’re basically touching a penis all day.

I put mine in a thick Pyrex sleeve. Won’t catch me slipping

[Pepinappe]

Is it transphobic to ask someone if they have a penis

Why, are you planning to suck on it?

[etiolate]

finally got some birth control eh

[james]

Fellas, is gay to have a penis? You’re basically touching a penis all day.

Only if you suck it

[Rahxephon91]

The hilarious thing is you probably can't ask what the argument for the guy being a Nazi or whatever is without being dogpiled, accused of being duplicitous, and then banned. This is the atmosphere resetera has created for any issue. And the funny thing is in that sentence I wanted to add the word "controversial" before issue, but then I thought how fucking dumb that is to describe a small kickstarted game about czech people made in czech that did'nt add any PoC to the game.

[Averon]

I see we're back to calling everyone who bought the game a racist/nazi/whatever's the hot new name to abuse.

The game got virtually no attention anywhere until it blew up on twitch around release day. It'd be wrong to assume most of the 1 million knew about Vavra at all let alone that they'd agree with him or whatever. You guys really need to learn just how much of a bubble gaf/Era is.

Member banned (1 week pending review): Derailing thread with false accusations. Baseless complaints of group think / echo chambers. Continued history of trolling other members.
Thread locked because people are calling out their terrible moderation. 

[thetylerrob]

Baseless complaints of group think / echo chambers.

There is no way they can actually believe it’s baseless lol

[seagrams hotsauce]

Another Kingdom Come thread bites the dust
https://www.resetera.com/posts/4799513/

[nudemacusers]

These locked threads will eventually impact sales, just watch. 

[nudemacusers]

This is worse than GAF ever was.

Cerium picked the wrong fucking people.

Then again, maybe it wouldn't have mattered who he picked, and this is just another illustration of absolute power corrupts absolutely. I'd like to think I would never hand out frivolous bans if I were appointed to a mod position, but what if I'm wrong?

[tuna_love]

what if someone bad mouthed crooked hilary

[bork]

I see we're back to calling everyone who bought the game a racist/nazi/whatever's the hot new name to abuse.

The game got virtually no attention anywhere until it blew up on twitch around release day. It'd be wrong to assume most of the 1 million knew about Vavra at all let alone that they'd agree with him or whatever. You guys really need to learn just how much of a bubble gaf/Era is.

Member banned (1 week pending review): Derailing thread with false accusations. Baseless complaints of group think / echo chambers. Continued history of trolling other members.
Thread locked because people are calling out their terrible moderation. 

They banned him for that post?      It's good to see some resistance finally happening with people questioning the state of the forum and moderation in that thread.

[TVC15]

Fuck, there’s nothing good on TV tonight. Plz make drama, people. Occupy me.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-sells-million-copies-in-first-week-see-mod-edit.24879/page-4#post-4799262

As a trans woman, I am literally crying IRL over this news. So many people willing to look the other way when it comes to bigoted behaviour because they make nice games.

I like the mod edit in the OP that says "Buying this game does not automatically make someone a horrible person and nothing will be learned or gained by anyone if you take that stance. Do not attack other members just for buying the game or enjoying mundane aspects of the game. Do not attempt to shame them." 

But if you read through the thread, it seems like anyone 'defending' themselves for liking the game got banned and the people playing the role of offended Social Studies Warrior or whatever got off scot-free.

[Atramental]

Fuck, there’s nothing good on TV tonight. Plz make drama, people. Occupy me.

[bork]

Fellas, is gay to have a penis? You’re basically touching a penis all day.

[nudemacusers]

Fuck, there’s nothing good on TV tonight. Plz make drama, people. Occupy me.

Worth watching, this guy is insane and a moron.

Plus the guest is crazy too. BAZINGA

[Averon]

I never got why calling them a bubble/echo chamber bothered them so much. Even back on GAF even implying that the place was a bubble/echo chamber got you the ban hammer, or at least a dogpile.

[EightBitNate]

Fuck, there’s nothing good on TV tonight. Plz make drama, people. Occupy me.

The CNN townhall is mildly interesting.

[counterhit]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4797531/

You can almost feel IrishNinja's outrage seeping through the monitor.

 

Every GAF/REE user with ninja in their name is fucking annoying. I don't know why this is a pattern.

[etiolate]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4797531/

You can almost feel IrishNinja's outrage seeping through the monitor.

 

 

[james]

Is it Transphobic to check out penises in the men's locker room at the gym?

[TVC15]

Fuck, there’s nothing good on TV tonight. Plz make drama, people. Occupy me.

The CNN townhall is mildly interesting.

Eh, watching people bitch at each other about guns is so old hat. I’ll stick to what I’m doing (rewatching Tourettes Guy videos).

[nachobro]

I am implying that you put quite a lot of effort into promoting and extolling the virtues of Mass Effect Andromeda when a fraction of the effort needed to do that is all it would take to vote. The latter would make a difference for a cause that's greater than the scope of just gamers but really the entire world. Here's hoping you can do better in the future.

Think you’re mistaking simply chatting with other posters about the game as “a lot of effort”. The fact that you’re even relating the two anywhere close together is absurd. What do they have to do with each other? This is no different than telling someone “why are you buying that game? You can give that money to charity instead!”.

I hope you see how ludicrous this sort of argument is.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4795219/

How DARE you imply I should take a break from discussing kideo games on the internet to go vote!

[james]

Is it Transphobic to check out penises in the men's locker room at the gym?

Are they circumcised?

Heading there now I'll let you know when I get back

[Averon]

Amazingly, IrishNinja got off scott free, is gloating about it ("bronsonlee doing the lord's work), and is right back at it now that the thread is reopened.

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4801877/

how white/cis/straight are you

 

[nudemacusers]

I am implying that you put quite a lot of effort into promoting and extolling the virtues of Mass Effect Andromeda when a fraction of the effort needed to do that is all it would take to vote. The latter would make a difference for a cause that's greater than the scope of just gamers but really the entire world. Here's hoping you can do better in the future.

Think you’re mistaking simply chatting with other posters about the game as “a lot of effort”. The fact that you’re even relating the two anywhere close together is absurd. What do they have to do with each other? This is no different than telling someone “why are you buying that game? You can give that money to charity instead!”.

I hope you see how ludicrous this sort of argument is.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4795219/

How DARE you imply I should take a break from discussing kideo games on the internet to go vote!

You publicly quit GAF in a huff over Mass Effect, made your own blog, and jumped on the train of the next thing to come along so you could be an admin. I'd say that's a lot more effort than mailing in a ballot and having an effect on your city, state and country. It's pretty shameful that the only thing that got you to take any action was children getting murdered in your backyard. I guess it's better than nothing.

Someone in this argument looks ludicrous but it's the guy who got more worked up over a sci-fi video game than making his voice heard and engaging with his country politically, not me. Not to mention you live in a swing state. You honestly should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to defend your behavior.

Shinobi annihilated in the digital realm.

[Averon]

I am implying that you put quite a lot of effort into promoting and extolling the virtues of Mass Effect Andromeda when a fraction of the effort needed to do that is all it would take to vote. The latter would make a difference for a cause that's greater than the scope of just gamers but really the entire world. Here's hoping you can do better in the future.

Think you’re mistaking simply chatting with other posters about the game as “a lot of effort”. The fact that you’re even relating the two anywhere close together is absurd. What do they have to do with each other? This is no different than telling someone “why are you buying that game? You can give that money to charity instead!”.

I hope you see how ludicrous this sort of argument is.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4795219/

How DARE you imply I should take a break from discussing kideo games on the internet to go vote!

You publicly quit GAF in a huff over Mass Effect, made your own blog, and jumped on the train of the next thing to come along so you could be an admin. I'd say that's a lot more effort than mailing in a ballot and having an effect on your city, state and country. It's pretty shameful that the only thing that got you to take any action was children getting murdered in your backyard. I guess it's better than nothing.

Someone in this argument looks ludicrous but it's the guy who got more worked up over a sci-fi video game than making his voice heard and engaging with his country politically, not me. Not to mention you live in a swing state. You honestly should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to defend your behavior.

Shinobi annihilated in the digital realm.

Shinobi was dumb to mention he did not vote given the audience of ERA and the current political climate.