Kingdom Come Deliverance; Eurojank Boogaloo

[MMaRsu]

So who is playing this game here? Ive only played about an hour or so but I liked what I played minus the checkpoint system.

[Kurt Russell]

I'm on the fence. The game ticks all the boxes for me, apart from the setting. I'm really turned off by any medieval mid century type game and hate fantasy stuff in general. I'll maybe consider it in the summer sales.

On a related note, an obvious Reeeeesetera user was so outraged about the existence of the game, that he wrote a letter into a free UK daily newspaper, reiterating the points made on Reeee in painstaking detail and wearing the fact that they apparently got a developer fired from Subnautica as a badge of honor.

It's a long read - http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/12/games-inbox-kingdom-come-deliverance-racism-sonic-all-stars-racing-3-and-fire-emblem-on-switch-7305167/

"Highlights":

Frankly speaking, the lead developer, Daniel Vávra, is an unashamed racist and sexist. His Twitter account is full of anti-PC, anti-‘social justice warrior’ tirades that come across as the ramblings of a xenophobe. He is also a supporter of GamerGate and makes absolutely no attempt to hide his reprehensible opinions.

People have brought up the argument that the hundreds of other developers who worked on the game don’t deserve to suffer lost sales because of one racist, but I have to call foul on that. He’s unashamed in his racism, and it’s clear the game comes from a source of deep rot.

PS: Incidentally, one of the sound engineers who worked on Subnautica was revealed to be a massive bigot, and was consequently fired from the studio. I hope the gaming community does more to thin out the cancerous elements that infest it.

tl;dr - Andrew Middlemas is a cunt.

[benjipwns]

It's a long read - http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/12/games-inbox-kingdom-come-deliverance-racism-sonic-all-stars-racing-3-and-fire-emblem-on-switch-7305167/

sonic all-stars racing 3? *clicks link, scrolls down*

Haven’t seen this rumour around too many big sites, which I assume means it hasn’t got any good sources, but apparently the skinny is that Sega is planning a third Sonic All-Stars Racing game. I know they’re never as good as Mario Kart but I’ve always enjoyed the other ones and, let’s face it, it’s about the only proof we’ve ever had in recent years that Sega even remembers what it used to be.

So assuming it is true, I wonder what characters people would like to see in it. Assuming that most non-kids are going to be interested in the Sega side of things and not Sonic and his s***** friends. In terms of characters that haven’t been in it before I’d like to see someone from Streets Of Rage, Vectorman, ToeJam & Earl, Ristar, and Hatsune Miku. And maybe Bayonetta and the guy from Vanquish? I assume Sega can still use those characters.

As long as it’s half decent I’d buy the game whatever but I’m still not sure this is the best way to show off Sega’s vast range of games. A lot of their characters are just people, which would suit a beat ‘em-up a lot better. I’d say a role-player of some sort, but I’m not even going to bother to imagine they’d do that.

Kory

[Cerveza mas fina]

How is a medieval setting fantasy 

[Kurt Russell]

How is a medieval setting fantasy 

Meh. I just equate it all together in my head. Medieval, horses, castles, king arthur, dragons, lord of the rings, dungeons and dragons, game of thrones.

 

I'm sure there are a myriad of subtle differences amongst all of the above, I just mentally lump it all together and switch off. Just cannot get excited about any of that jazz.

The game does sound pretty cool though, so it'll likely be a sale grab for me.

[bork]

“Our game isn’t even out yet, but these people already know that it’s gonna be racist, because we said we will not have people of colour in 15th century Bohemia,” he told me. “It doesn’t matter that we are writing [a] story dealing with very touchy and controversial topics as hatred between Czechs and Germans, about anti-semitism or religious fanaticism. It doesn’t matter, that we are the first game about Czech culture and history. That’s not enough! We need to cover all the problems of all the people in the world in that one game, otherwise we are very bad people. And that is A – impossible, B – Insane, C – bullshit. It took me years of stress, hard work and risks to be able to finally create a game I always wanted to make and I will do it the way I want. If you want something, do it yourself. But it’s not as easy as barking at someone.”

What a horrible guy.  Burn all copies of this game. 

[Svejk]

The "whitewashing racist" shit is LOL.  Who cares..  If that really deters someone to not support the game, by all means... don't buy the the fuckin game.  People taking vidyuhgamez on such a personal level should probably not be playing games.

Anywho, the non-fantasy approach seems unique enough, but with the overwhelming amount of bugs (like plenty of open world games), seems like it'll break immersion too much... and for a game like this?  You need to be 100%, balls deep immersed...  This game would benefit more if it were in VR.   But it seems they got too much ironing out to tackle till that comes.   I truly hope they take it to levels of polish that CDPR did for Witcher 3.  It's not completely bug free, but they still busted ass to do what they could, and it really showed. 

[toku]

where is mount and blade 2 god dammit

[tiesto]

“Our game isn’t even out yet, but these people already know that it’s gonna be racist, because we said we will not have people of colour in 15th century Bohemia,” he told me. “It doesn’t matter that we are writing [a] story dealing with very touchy and controversial topics as hatred between Czechs and Germans, about anti-semitism or religious fanaticism. It doesn’t matter, that we are the first game about Czech culture and history. That’s not enough! We need to cover all the problems of all the people in the world in that one game, otherwise we are very bad people. And that is A – impossible, B – Insane, C – bullshit. It took me years of stress, hard work and risks to be able to finally create a game I always wanted to make and I will do it the way I want. If you want something, do it yourself. But it’s not as easy as barking at someone.”

What a horrible guy.  Burn all copies of this game. 

First time I saw it was taking place in Bohemia, I thought the Long Island suburb.

Anyways...  eastern eurojank. I think the only eastern euro games I liked were Tetris and the Witcher series. Much prefer a smooth, expertly-crafted experience even if it's not pushing any barriers over something too overambitious for its own good (sure a historically-accurate recreation of a Czech village is interesting but will it be fun to play? Will even things like simple movement or melee combat be a chore?)

[bluemax]

https://i.imgur.com/1oOTEtM.mp4

GOTY

[Cerveza mas fina]

“Our game isn’t even out yet, but these people already know that it’s gonna be racist, because we said we will not have people of colour in 15th century Bohemia,” he told me. “It doesn’t matter that we are writing [a] story dealing with very touchy and controversial topics as hatred between Czechs and Germans, about anti-semitism or religious fanaticism. It doesn’t matter, that we are the first game about Czech culture and history. That’s not enough! We need to cover all the problems of all the people in the world in that one game, otherwise we are very bad people. And that is A – impossible, B – Insane, C – bullshit. It took me years of stress, hard work and risks to be able to finally create a game I always wanted to make and I will do it the way I want. If you want something, do it yourself. But it’s not as easy as barking at someone.”

What a horrible guy.  Burn all copies of this game. 

Wow this is what people where complaining about? 

[Raist]

Oh shit, Geralt cameo.

[Svejk]

https://i.imgur.com/1oOTEtM.mp4

GOTY

JOHNNY CAGE WINS.

[bork]

https://i.imgur.com/1oOTEtM.mp4

GOTY

JOHNNY CAGE WINS.

WTF?

[MMaRsu]

The skilltree in this game is fucking glorious

There is a skilltree dedicated to boozing

[Svejk]

The skilltree in this game is fucking glorious

There is a skilltree dedicated to boozing

Sounds like an authentic Czech game to me. 

[paprikastaude]

https://i.imgur.com/1oOTEtM.mp4

GOTY

historically accurate

[Let's Cyber]

Probably because I'm used to the barren ass areas from Skyrim but the landscapes are beautiful in this game. And the topography is realistic in a way you don't usually see in video games.

[MMaRsu]

Yo this game is the real deal

[paprikastaude]

I hope they are  able to publish a GotY edition with all the fixes and what's still being worked on down the line. Although this apparently was a kickstarter, their quite noticeable ad campaign (at least in Europe) makes me hope that they can also afford a definitive re-release.

[Svejk]

As soon as I'm done with MHW, I'm prolly gonna jump on dis shit....  All I need to do now, is start MHW. 

[Svejk]

Sold over 500K already.  Good for them.  Hope this is incentive to up the ante on patches.

[Coax]

Looked at GOG and apparently they're doing some staggered release so the DRM-free version comes out later in the month.

[Raist]

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/9kzqxd/kingdom-come-deliverance-waypoint-radio?utm_source=wpfbus

Kingdom Come: Deliverance, an open world medieval RPG set during the Holy Roman Empire, launched earlier this week, and it's already an enormous hit. Waypoint hasn't written about the game yet, partially because we've struggled over how to cover a game whose creative director has both publicly and forcefully supported GamerGate and made highly questionable statements about the game's "historical" accuracy regarding representing people of color. Maybe we shouldn't cover it all? On the podcast, Austin, Patrick, and Danielle decided it was time to have a public conversation about all this.

"We tried to be woke but well, shit, the game sold a ton so we're gonna talk about it while not talking about it"

[jorma]

I played it for a few hours now, and it's actually a good game if you can get over the bugs, glitches and the badly animated dialogues. Actually there's a million things to complain about. And yet it holds my interest. Apparently you can complete the game without killing a single soul. Probably a good thing, because the combat is kinda difficult.

I just had a bar brawl and later an orgy together with a drunk priest and two rather ugly wenches. That made up for a lot.

[Huff]

I aint got time in my life to deal with eurojank trash

[MMaRsu]

I aint got time in my life to deal with eurojank trash

its pretty awesome though, provided you're playing on pc

about 20+ hours in, this is a fucking awesome game lol

[Raist]

https://twitter.com/FN_CAL_Fan/status/965068779062464513

[ZombieSupaStar]

Its a fun game, a lot of jank but if I could play through day 1 new vegas I can play through this.

just glad to see another open world rpg, and one that isn't petrified of having a bit of rpg in well...... an rpg. 

[bdoughty]

its pretty awesome though, provided you're playing on pc

about 20+ hours in, this is a fucking awesome game lol

Less awesome on the Xbox One X.  Got a refund with no questions asked from MS (outside of giving the order number). So they must know something is up. Lost well over 5 hours of gameplay on CTD's alone. Never had the bed save issue because I always used that drink to cover my ass.

So much potential and I was digging the story, outside of the redundant replies and questions to non-essential NPC's. Never really got to the combat part but I did beat up the drunk in the first fight and it took forever, which I liked.  It just has so much jank. From the shit tier framerate, textures not showing up, etc. I got a horse stuck just trying to get him out of the stables. Got stuck behind a pile of hay. Even picking up a flower from the ground takes pixel perfect accuracy. The lockpicking can also kiss my ass but I was able to get a few easy locks broken. There is no way they tested that on consoles. A lot of things it looks like were not tested on consoles.  maybe in a year or so it will be playable on the consoles and I will give it another shot.

[Svejk]

Seems they're gonna pseudo-address the save game issue that alot of folks are having.
https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/19/17027912/kingdom-come-deliverance-improved-save-system-saviour-schnapps-patch-notes-pc-xbox-playstation

I hope to see continual progress on this the same way CDPR did for W3.  I really look forward to see how the game will shape up the next few months.  Will mos def jump in then.

[MMaRsu]

  if u are on pc there is no reason to wait

[Svejk]

if u are on pc there is no reason to wait

True, but my pc would struggle as bad as my base PS4.   

[MMaRsu]

in 20+ hours I have not seen 'lots' of bugs and AI issues. I can actually count them on one hand. Compared to Oblivion or Skyrim this game seems less buggier to me.

[bdoughty]

There is no way you could go twenty hours and have only a handful of issues, even on your beloved PC.  Just watch a stream of a PC player and you will see more than that in the first hour.

[Svejk]

I can believe it.  I Day 1'd Skyrim (on PS3, none the less) and Witcher 3 (PS4), and I hardly even noticed any bugs at all... with the exception of Roach controlling like utter shit.   If I weren't balls deep on MHW right now, I'd be all over this.  The save issue though, that concerns me some, but they seem to be addressing that atm.

[MMaRsu]

There is no way you could go twenty hours and have only a handful of issues, even on your beloved PC.  Just watch a stream of a PC player and you will see more than that in the first hour.

Allright then don't believe me lol. I did not encounter any bugs at all during the first hour, let alone the next 15. Now I'm seeing a lot more texture streaming popping in, and even NPC's with their heads popping in. Sure you can say it's a bug but to me it seems like a texture streaming issue because they eventually pop into existance.

But real hard bugs? No I have not encountered them. Not even a CTD or a infinite loading screen which some people have reported.

[Raist]

Lots of racism towards glorious yurop in this thread. Mods pls.

[MMaRsu]

Lots of racism towards glorious yurop in this thread. Mods pls.

USER WARNED : Openly asking mods for banning racists

[Trent Dole]

A friend streamed a bit of this showing where he got drunk with a priest and they banged some chicks and fought the local police and then he led a sermon whilst hungover.

[stufte]

A friend streamed a bit of this showing where he got drunk with a priest and they banged some chicks and fought the local police and then he led a sermon whilst hungover.

Yep, that mission was fucking amazing.

[MMaRsu]

Yeah that mission was fucking awesome. Time to get back into it! A whole weekend of KCD and PUBG <3

[Tasty]

[Rufus]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/117175-zero-punctuation-Reviews-Kingdom-Come-Deliverance

If you have no sound, it's because Escapist is too skint these days to fix the vide player starting at zero volume.

[MMaRsu]

complains combat is shit

then says he went out of his way to avoid combat and in doing so not getting better at the combat

Complains about 'limited item' required for saving, but doesn't say anything about how easy they are to acquire in the game.

lulz

( I do love ZP though )

[Tasty]

complains combat is shit

then says he went out of his way to avoid combat and in doing so not getting better at the combat

Complains about 'limited item' required for saving, but doesn't say anything about how easy they are to acquire in the game.

lulz

( I do love ZP though )

It's a 4-minute  internet comedy video breh.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/FN_CAL_Fan/status/965068779062464513

[MMaRsu]

complains combat is shit

then says he went out of his way to avoid combat and in doing so not getting better at the combat

Complains about 'limited item' required for saving, but doesn't say anything about how easy they are to acquire in the game.

lulz

( I do love ZP though )

It's a 4-minute  internet comedy video breh.

ya I know I love ZP bruh

[Great Rumbler]

complains combat is shit

then says he went out of his way to avoid combat and in doing so not getting better at the combat

Complains about 'limited item' required for saving, but doesn't say anything about how easy they are to acquire in the game.

lulz

( I do love ZP though )

It's a 4-minute  internet comedy video breh.

So are Dunkey videos and they are far better than this mediocre production. 

[Joe Molotov]

Yahtzee peaked with the Chzo Mythos, specifically Trilby's Notes.

[paprikastaude]

 

That guy's still a thing? "Quickly talking brit whining" isn't even entertaining for more than 10 seconds, let alone for 10 years or how long this dude must exist by now.

[Rufus]

I still enjoy it. He's nothing if not consistent.

[etiolate]

has me weak in the knees

[MMaRsu]

Gone weak in the knees eh?

[Great Rumbler]

On the final main quest right now. Overall, it's been a pretty decent game, glitches and budgetary issues aside, but it just lacks a certain something that games like Skyrim and Witcher 3 have that make me want to drop hundreds of hours into them.