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[stufte]

Idea:

Create a new modern video game messaging forum

aintslick.com

But that's pretty much The Bore already, just without the url.

[Bananas]

Salon is a fringe site?

edit: Looks like they unpublished that pro pedophile article they posted a while back. Cowards. 

There was a heavy push to “born this way” pedophilia that ended when 24/7 Trump freak outs preempted everything.

There has been a push to legitimate "pedophilia" since forever. Guess what, it's not happening, the slippery slope isn't real. You just laugh at these people and shake your head in disgust.

lmao, this thing that kiwifarms reee site just pulled is amazing.

Kiwifarms is definitely the kind of place that should laugh at era/gaf. Oh wait no, it isn't. It's a bunch of loonies spending their time stalking people online.

[Uncle]

Idea:

Create a new modern video game messaging forum

aintslick.com

Might be better to use a more old timey dialect, like t'ain't

taintslick.com

[benjipwns]

lmao, this thing that kiwifarms reee site just pulled is amazing.

Kiwifarms is definitely the kind of place that should laugh at era/gaf. Oh wait no, it isn't. It's a bunch of loonies spending their time stalking people online.

It's hosted on there because ResetERA LLC kept making legal/copyright claims against it to drive it off anywhere legitimate and kiwifarms don't give a fuck.

Now it's officially malicious instead of merely highly suspect.

[Bore Expert]

That’s already the number 1 forum for taint licking aficionados.

[stufte]

My eyes are sore from rolling them hard @ almost every reply in that escapist thread.

[Jenkem]

now that Cyndi is posting in this thread again Marrec better be on his best behavior

[Propagandhim]

That thread about The Escapist is 

OP starts things off with a bang.

Politics are everywhere because they NEED to be everywhere. By not putting politics, you're pandering to those that dislike being criticised, giving them a safe zone from being told what they don't like to hear.

https://twitter.com/BrotherSquadron/status/1022593589711331328

[Atramental]

BroTeam 

Is he still making videos?

[Propagandhim]

BroTeam 

Is he still making videos?

Haha - Never heard of him.  The tweet reminded me of that South Park bit with the goth kids: "If we're not goth, we're just a bunch of ugly, unpopular rejects"

[Atramental]

[benjipwns]

I think it has to do with the fervor with which you defend your convictions. I think someone like benji is moderate, even though a librarian and so is extremely to the right, and Jack who supports the centrist Queen is less moderate, because he is out there in the trenches every day, doing more for progressive policy on a random Tuesday than all of you will in your entire lives.

[Uncle]

I really don't understand the retort "CHOOSING TO LEAVE POLITICS AT THE DOOR IS ITSELF A POLITICAL DECISION!!"

ok

Label it that all you like, it doesn't change the actual effect of deciding to leave politics at the door

If they stick to their guns as intended, they're not going to have articles asking why white gaming males are so entitled, and also not have articles critical of Anita Sarkeesian's views, y'know, avoiding politics on either side

Call that a "political" decision or no, sounds pretty fucken great to me

[HaughtyFrank]

I really don't understand the retort "CHOOSING TO LEAVE POLITICS AT THE DOOR IS ITSELF A POLITICAL DECISION!!"

ok

Label it that all you like, it doesn't change the actual effect of deciding to leave politics at the door

If they stick to their guns as intended, they're not going to have articles asking why white gaming males are so entitled, and also not have articles critical of Anita Sarkeesian's views, y'know, avoiding politics on either side

Call that a "political" decision or no, sounds pretty fucken great to me

(Image removed from quote.)

It's pretty much what Easy Allies does and no one complains (or maybe they haven't noticed yet.)

[Uncle]

The "allies" in the name tricked them because it's one of their buzzwords

[Propagandhim]

I can't stop laughing at this. Vox writer:

https://twitter.com/drvox/status/1021633370839646209

Someone replies with another poll:

https://twitter.com/kebejay/status/1021822913450635264

Vox writer responds:

https://twitter.com/kebejay/status/1021890822185185280

[stufte]

It's odd to me that people are so ANGRY at the escapist. It's not like Polygon and Kotaku are going anywhere. Why can't they let them be apolitical in peace? The site is called The Escapist for a fucking reason.

[BlueTsunami]

I can't stop laughing at this. Vox writer:

https://twitter.com/drvox/status/1021633370839646209

Someone replies with another poll:

https://twitter.com/kebejay/status/1021822913450635264

Vox writer responds:

https://twitter.com/kebejay/status/1021890822185185280

https://twitter.com/kebejay/status/1021890822185185280

Got some white fragility too

[nudemacusers]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-week-ago-i-made-a-site-out-of-boredom-making-fun-of-fox-news-today-i-got-a-cease-and-desist.58016/page-2#post-10820265

Googling her name shows that it's been her gig for years now and she is super agressive about it. I'd send an email back saying you'll remove the content but you hope she gets her nipples caught in a bear trap.

Yeah nothing weird about random internet guys emailing a woman about her nipples. Right side of history and etc.

[REDPILLALPH ABIGCOCK]

I really don't understand the retort "CHOOSING TO LEAVE POLITICS AT THE DOOR IS ITSELF A POLITICAL DECISION!!"

ok

Label it that all you like, it doesn't change the actual effect of deciding to leave politics at the door

If they stick to their guns as intended, they're not going to have articles asking why white gaming males are so entitled, and also not have articles critical of Anita Sarkeesian's views, y'know, avoiding politics on either side

Call that a "political" decision or no, sounds pretty fucken great to me

(Image removed from quote.)

It's pretty much what Easy Allies does and no one complains (or maybe they haven't noticed yet.)

They've attacked Easy Allies for even THINKING of playing an anime titty game once. Literally saying they would be alt right nazis if they played it. EA kowtowed and now complain about anime titty games so that's about as far as ree cares

[Optimus]

https://twitter.com/kebejay/status/1021890822185185280

Got some white fragility too

The best part is that this guy is called Mujahed so the moron can't call racism. It must be killing him inside.

[benjipwns]

FUCK 20th century fox I hope all their upcoming films fail what a bunch of dickheads

[nudemacusers]

FUCK 20th century fox I hope all their upcoming films fail what a bunch of dickheads

Don’t they mean Disney?

[benjipwns]

um, why are they thinking he got sued? it's a cease and desist letter and he has actually complied with it by removing their trademark and stating how much he's made on it

Because you have to get a lawyer if you get sued even if you don't believe there are any damages.

[nudemacusers]

Oo thread deleted. Spicy!!

[benjipwns]

lmao they locked and then deleted the thread

[ashep]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10764662

I am just asking questions, buddy, I assumed that him participating in the thread meant that he would be willing to answer a few questions.

I found the fucking nazi guys!!

I am just asking questions.

[Uncle]

lmao they locked and then deleted the thread

He probably panicked that the thread could constitute some form of libel in an ongoing potentially legal matter and requested the deletion

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10764662

I am just asking questions, buddy, I assumed that him participating in the thread meant that he would be willing to answer a few questions.

I found the fucking nazi guys!!

I am just asking questions.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gameumentary-kingdom-come-deliverance-documentary.57542/page-4#post-10809491

Coward!

HAVE AT YE

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-week-ago-i-made-a-site-out-of-boredom-making-fun-of-fox-news-today-i-got-a-cease-and-desist.58016/page-2#post-10820265

Googling her name shows that it's been her gig for years now and she is super agressive about it. I'd send an email back saying you'll remove the content but you hope she gets her nipples caught in a bear trap.

Yeah nothing weird about random internet guys emailing a woman about her nipples. Right side of history and etc.

nuked thread?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Also

gameumentary?



 

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10822710/

Huh. Surprisingly disingenuous from Danny. No one is asking games journalists to become experts on immigration. Games journalists should be knowledgeable however on political issues that are directly affecting video games and the people making them (which may include immigration from time to time, but not to such a level of depth that they need to be a true authority).

[benjipwns]

COMEDY:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10822029/

OUR TAKE ON THE ARENANET CONTROVERSY
-- Posted August 15th, 2018 by The Escapist

Two people were fired by ArenaNet after one of their employees had an exchange on social media. Another co-worker was fired shortly after. ArenaNet posted a letter to the community. ArenaNet develops the Guild Wars series. Guild Wars is an massively-multiplayer online RPG. The game is available for Windows PCs.

Comments are turned off.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10822247/

INTERVIEW WITH DANIEL VAVRA, CREATOR OF KINGDOM COME: DELIVERANCE
-- Posted September 12th, 2018 by The Escapist

We sat down with game developer Daniel Vavra. Daniel Vavra's studio created Kingdom Come: Deliverance.

Q: How were sales of Kingdom Come: Deliverance?
A: Despite what the SJWs say, we did very well.

Q: We have no opinion on that but we strangely won't stop you from speaking.
A: Basically fuck Zoe Quinn and GamerGate is the best. Trolled much? Are you going to cry, snowflakes? I'm going to spam the N word now for a half-hour.

Q: You have quite a sense of humor. What are your influences?

[benjipwns]

Everything is political. Being a-political is political. Not talking about certain topics or issues is political (and is also bias, which is another favorite word of the 'keep politics out of games' crowd).

Let's not pretend that this is anything but a pretty blatant dog whistle to people who don't want to discuss crunch/unions, LGBT representation, Twitter harassment and the ethics of boob sliders.

What insight could one gleam from a site that's mission statement is "apolitical." Other sites talk about a variety of things when it comes to video games, other sites have serious articles and satirical articles, other sites will also talk more deeply about art since this is an art medium, so what does a website like the escapist offer the reader that isn't covered elsewhere?

And that's fine. But websites that hire journalists to cover games need to provide content. Unless they just do quick looks or let's plays they can't write about them without having nuanced takes that inspire discussion. In essence they peddle reasons for gamers to "politic" about their hobby.

I'm still looking for a clear answer of what "politics" means when people say they don't want them in gaming. Like I can't express my issue with having to play white guy number 12 in yet another game, or read an article about the lack of minority representation due to a majority of "gamers" triggered"? Do these same people who enjoy games not take a title like ff12 and try to understand the Dynamics of the world because that's to heavy a subject for their enjoyment? I'm confused.

Here's my problem- I appreciate sometimes wanting to get away from the negativity that political discussions inevitably entail, especially when it comes to gaming, and that sometimes you just want to be able to discuss your hobby without having to go through the exhausting task of arguing your views and beliefs with people. I get it, sure.
The problem: "keep politics out of my games/journalism" has often been, and continues to be, a dog whistle for GamerGate and the alt-right, and I give no benefit of the doubt to anyone who actually unironically uses it, especially when it comes to a site with a history of pandering to GamerGate like The Escapist does. Now, will I keep an open mind? Absolutely. Benji pointed out earlier in this thread that there can be meaningful apolitical game coverage, citing Easy Allies, and he is right, there can be, and maybe that's what this new The Escapist turns out to be. If that happens, I will frequent them a lot. On the other hand, if this does turn out to be another veiled way to say "Yeah, this is a front for alt-right and GG pandering", then my initial misgivings will have been correct.

Russ Pitts appears to be digging himself deeper on Twitter. He has repeatedly been claiming that he never said, "apolitical," and that people who are using that word are misrepresenting him. Yet he refuses to clarify what he means by, "leaving their politics at the door," while insisting that he chose his words carefully and with precision (his words there). He's been intentionally obtuse about the difference at this point. Not a good look.

[benjipwns]

This rabidly pro-GamerGate hate site says it's not going to be political, which is a dogwhistle for GamerGate, Nazi's and other hate movements that the site is secretly on its side! All because they want to see BOOBIES!!! "Gamers" smh.

[HaughtyFrank]

No wonder they got so pissy when GOG made a joke about games journalism. Games journalism is serious, serious business and frankly the last line of defense this democracy has.

[nachobro]

Russ Pitts appears to be digging himself deeper on Twitter. He has repeatedly been claiming that he never said, "apolitical," and that people who are using that word are misrepresenting him. Yet he refuses to clarify what he means by, "leaving their politics at the door," while insisting that he chose his words carefully and with precision (his words there). He's been intentionally obtuse about the difference at this point. Not a good look.

If only he'd written an article somewhere to extrapolate on his points....

One thing I can tell you without delay or equivocation: We’re leaving politics at the door. Most of us have thoughts about politics. Just like most of you. And, because we’re creators, those thoughts might show up in our work. Avoiding that would be unnatural. That said, I can promise you no one here will share their politics in an attempt to convince you yours are wrong. And your worth will not be calculated based on whether you’re on the left or on the right. Politics are everywhere, but they don’t have to be everything. We’re going to focus on what’s fun, and we hope you’ll join us in that.

Oh 

[paprikastaude]

COMEDY:

More like, that's what they geniunely think gaming content outside of their own reee and Waypoint look like. 

[Joe Molotov]

The thread wasn't deleted, it's just so transparent now that you literally can't see that it's there.

It's so slick, we don't see it.

[ChewyWaffles]

I really don't understand the retort "CHOOSING TO LEAVE POLITICS AT THE DOOR IS ITSELF A POLITICAL DECISION!!"

ok

Label it that all you like, it doesn't change the actual effect of deciding to leave politics at the door

If they stick to their guns as intended, they're not going to have articles asking why white gaming males are so entitled, and also not have articles critical of Anita Sarkeesian's views, y'know, avoiding politics on either side

Call that a "political" decision or no, sounds pretty fucken great to me

(Image removed from quote.)

If you're not incoherent screeching with us, you’re against us.

[benjipwns]

What makes a website turn neutral? Lust for Nazi Gold? Power?

[zepblackstar]

It's odd to me that people are so ANGRY at the escapist. It's not like Polygon and Kotaku are going anywhere. Why can't they let them be apolitical in peace? The site is called The Escapist for a fucking reason.

You are looking at a social circle of game bloggers who demand conformity of opinion. If you have a site that is just doing its own thing, it does trigger them.

[benjipwns]

So I guess MovieBob is coming back onboard. As a huge fan, I really hope he knows what he's doing...

EDIT: ugh he's retweent Russ' garbage. He should know better. Today sucks.

If I hadn't been shown receipts on Russ today this would look like a promising new start for the site.

https://twitter.com/NickCapozzoli/status/708397804998238208

Instead I just feel really disappointed in Bob.

[nachobro]

Movie Bob returning is a strike against the site

[benjipwns]

Obviously, but you don’t always have to pay attention. I just played through RE 2...I shot zombies...I didn’t think about racism, sexism, class politics, etc. I played a fucking game.

You mean the game where a corrupt pharmaceutical company's research for war purposes inadvertently lead to the destruction of an entire city?

As well as the local politicians and chief of police being corrupted by said corporation's money that it crippled the response to a serious epidemic?

Let's pay no attention to the fact that the two recurring bosses are
A)One of the head researchers who was accidentally killed after he contacted the U.S. military for protection in exchange for a virus that would give them an upper hand against enemy nations
B)A bio-organic soldier created by the evil pharmaceutical company who again, was creating them for war purposes

Lmao what the fuck? I was a writer for many years and gave zero fucks about politics. There goes that theory.

Then whatever you wrote wasn't worth very much, or you're lying.

Avoiding politics in a time when basic decency and truth itself are under attack by one party is a political stance. When a group of journalists ignore issues like rampant harassment and targeted hate campaigns for the sake of "fun", what does that make them? At best, they're silently endorsing apathy toward an upswell of fascism.

Its always so lame hearing about people who are going to "avoid politics" in any context as if politics wasn't an inherent part of nearly every aspect of everyone's life. Just making such a statement is political in of itself whether they want to admit it or not. Then there is the fact that they will almost assuredly cover politics in a variety of forms, its basically impossible not to unless they ignore some of the most pressing stories and things going on. Are they not going to ever talk about Loot boxes and the politics that surrounds them? I think not.

Literally everything involves politics. By "not" talking about politics you are talking about politics.

This guy is honestly a dumbass. These types of people have no idea how anything works.

[benjipwns]

This is just dog-whistling, and anyone who says otherwise hasn't paid attention to the GG movement, and how they insist on backwards thinking by just insisting on "keeping politics out of gaming", and that's not even including harassment, death threats and other heinous shit.

Reading the thread, I think something people haven't brought up in the face of "gaming shouldn't be political" is the sheer privilege the person saying that has. Minorities and groups discriminated against don't get to escape politics. Just because you don't think about it, doesn't make it go away. If gaming can improve on these things, and we slowly have, despite some vocal small groups, we absolutely should.

[benjipwns]

Hot take: It’s ok to analyse a game like far cry 5 without having to drag in current day real world politics into the discussion.

You're talking about a game that has a character literally saying "obama loving libtards"

[benjipwns]

i'm starting to think some of ResetERA's finest and most outspoken members don't know that "politics" can refer to different things in different contexts

[nachobro]

if those dopes understood context in general the site would be a totally different place.

[nachobro]

ACTUALLY THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE'RE LIVING IN A NAZI RUN FACIST ALT RIGHT REALITY RUN BY A DICTATOR RAPIST ELECTED ILLEGALLY AND INFLUENCED BY GAMERGATE AND THEIR RUSSIAN ALLIES

[benjipwns]

Assassins Creed III also features several other historical figures such as Israel Putnam (Andreas Apergis), George Washington (Robin Atkin Downes), Thomas Jefferson (John Emmet Tracy), Mason Weems (Tod Fennell), Paul Revere (Bruce Dinsmore), Edward Braddock, Benjamin Franklin (Rick Jones), and Samuel Adams (Mark Lindsay Chapman).

AHA, POLITICS

[daemon]

Resident Evil 2 was ahead of its time. When you enter the gun store as Leon, the guy tells you to fuck off essentially, because Leon is quite obviously a white male cop, quite possibly the worst thing you can be today.

When you enter as Claire, the guy acts much softer. It was at that moment when Era knew they found the masterpiece they had been looking for.

[benjipwns]

now i'm starting to wonder if many of them developed their takes on corporate war profiteering from what they experienced in Resident Evil 2

[Uncle]

What insight could one gleam from a site that's mission statement is "apolitical."

IT'S GLEAN BITCH

[benjipwns]

ACTUALLY THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE'RE LIVING IN A NAZI RUN FACIST ALT RIGHT REALITY RUN BY A DICTATOR RAPIST ELECTED ILLEGALLY AND INFLUENCED BY GAMERGATE AND THEIR RUSSIAN ALLIES

thank you for saying this, i just wish men would just shut up and listen

[benjipwns]

Resident Evil 2 was ahead of its time. When you enter the gun store as Leon, the guy tells you to fuck off essentially, because Leon is quite obviously a white male cop, quite possibly the worst thing you can be today.

When you enter as Claire, the guy acts much softer. It was at that moment when Era knew they found the masterpiece they had been looking for.

they better not change this in the remake just to appease GamerGate, but i'm afraid Capcom will probably be too afraid of the backlash that they'll cave to the hate mobs much like ArenaNet did

[benjipwns]

To make matters worse, beginning at some point in 2013 or 2014 The Escapist’s former publisher had allowed the website to become a home to political extremists. Whether right- or left-wing doesn’t matter here, although you may know which. It wasn’t a secret. It also isn’t interesting. For a time before it was allowed to begin dying, The Escapist’s editors routinely chose and created content based on a political agenda over journalistic insight. As a result, those not willing to put their political opinions in front of their journalism left The Escapist behind.

In this paragraph, he refuses to engage with The Escapist's actual legacy. He refuses to even mention GamerGate. He creates a false narrative where the problem wasn't that The Escapist embraced a hate group, but that it got too political in general. He engages in the worst kind of both sides rhetoric - somehow The Escapist going all #GamerGate on us is uninteresting and irrelevant, as "left-wing" political opinions would have been a problem, too.

There's refusing to be direct about no longer being a platform for the alt-right, and there's...that.

wow, the escapist is gaslighting us

The only people I have seen lauding these "Leaving politics at the door" are people who are extremely political and often not on the right side of history.

[benjipwns]

However I believe there is a section of the market (incl. me) that sometimes just wants to read about the product and how well it performs without needing the political serve on the side. Sometimes I just want to pop in BotW and chill for a bit when every other aspect of life is filled with politics, and there isn't anything wrong with that either.

Farcry’s story is political. BoTW’s story is political.

Thing is having every from of media injecting politics and topical issues reeks of pretentiousness, smugness, and bias.

This statement is inherently smug, pretentious, and biased. It's literally looking down on mediums for giving a shit.

MEDIUM SHAMING

[nachobro]

The only people I have seen lauding these "Leaving politics at the door" are people who are extremely political and often not on the right side of history.

well benji you can't sue them for slander

[stufte]

Funny how no one is getting banned for “vilifying journalism “ in that thread.... hmmmmm