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[benjipwns]

After 20 some posts of people ranking the Confederates just under the Nazi's, Enzom21 makes an appearance to say what people are really going to mean:

I expect this thread to have a few people (all non-black) trying minimize how bad the confederacy was/is because mostly black people were its victims.

I'd say that last part depends on if you consider being killed or maimed or being a war refugee worse than being alive but enslaved with the potential of becoming a freedman.

[clothedmacuser]

1. The Holocaust
2. Slavery
3. FF8
4. 9/11

GamerGate led to all of those 

[benjipwns]

1. The Holocaust
2. Slavery
3. FF8
4. 9/11

History of Infractions:

1. GamerGate
2. ResetERA.com
3. Nazis
4. Confederates
5. Russia (except 1917-1991)
6. CDProjekt
7. The phrase "female"
8. The firing of James Gunn
9. Junior accounts
10. Jews
11. The Polish

[clothedmacuser]

It's good when people jump in when it's just though, and with cases framed like this one was way more often than not that "mob" gets it completely right.

You’re advocating mob “justice”. There’s nothing to talk about past that.

I didn't use the word "justice" once, actually. Go back and check.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/15180229

The mob usually gets things right.

Uh, that's stupid and mob justice is a terrible thing

Sorry shit lord, I never said justice.  I just said mobs are good when they are just.  Nice try Slicker Slickenstien.

[benjipwns]

actually speaking of the Civil War and ranking history's monsters...there was this dude who always wore civil war infantry jackets everywhere, and he was in a lot of my history classes, and one time we were in a group for some reading i didn't do or something i forget why, anyway, he started lecturing the group how "The British were the worst to the native populations of the Americas." I forgot the rule about group work in classes and countered his claim with the Spanish and he said "come on, they never did anything as immoral as send diseased blankets to tribes or mislead them into selling their land."

I should have locked him in his temple and poured molten gold down his throat.

[Jansen]

Zatt Murdock is on the case of the Avenatti frame job. Didn't know he was affiliated with Disney Marvel. But Zatt wilk not tolerate any more men being dragged through the mud, not on his watch. Basta

https://www.resetera.com/posts/15178195/

God I hope he gets banned again but not permabanned. Never put him out of his misery

[benjipwns]

also i know that molten gold story is mythical, they still killed like ten million natives and wiped out batches of whole civilizations a century before the British ever got their shit together, across the Atlantic and in from the coast

and i'm pretty sure they first deployed that smallpox idea

in both cases their atrocities are still with us today

Spanish conquest of Americas -> karavans of illegals
British conquest of Americas -> French Canadians

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/15180945

Black people probably wouldn't rely on social media so much to get our stories heard if there were actually other avenues and alternatives we had to consistently check the cultural racism we face everyday. But hey; shitty world.

Uh, the story black people have about trying to scam a free burrito and getting caught?  That self-bigotry is sad.

[benjipwns]

Prettttty sure most plebes rely on social media to get their stories heard. And always have.

Are they envisioning some kind of "bad service at restaurants" beat?

[kingv]

Zatt Murdock is on the case of the Avenatti frame job. Didn't know he was affiliated with Disney Marvel. But Zatt wilk not tolerate any more men being dragged through the mud, not on his watch. Basta

https://www.resetera.com/posts/15178195/

I feel like the Avenatti thing is like a political Rorschach test.

The details are so light, you can’t really have any opinion outside of preconceived notions.

...
He was totes set up.

[kingv]

also i know that molten gold story is mythical, they still killed like ten million natives and wiped out batches of whole civilizations a century before the British ever got their shit together, across the Atlantic and in from the coast

and i'm pretty sure they first deployed that smallpox idea

in both cases their atrocities are still with us today

Spanish conquest of Americas -> karavans of illegals
British conquest of Americas -> French Canadians

Kind of weird that they’d go kill the only Spanish speaking people in the new world.

[BikeJesus]

All of a sudden reeeeee believes in 'Trust, but Verify'. Literally gamergate talking points.

[kingv]

After 20 some posts of people ranking the Confederates just under the Nazi's, Enzom21 makes an appearance to say what people are really going to mean:

I expect this thread to have a few people (all non-black) trying minimize how bad the confederacy was/is because mostly black people were its victims.

I'd say that last part depends on if you consider being killed or maimed or being a war refugee worse than being alive but enslaved with the potential of becoming a freedman.

Nazis were punching up!

[Jenkem]

in which Enzom21 doesn't realize there's different definition for hysterical:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/15159815/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/15169968/

why is such a misogynistic word being used on ERA in the first place??

noun
an uncontrollable outburst of emotion or fear, often characterized by irrationality, laughter, weeping, etc.
Psychoanalysis . a psychoneurotic disorder characterized by violent emotional outbreaks, disturbances of sensory and motor functions, and various abnormal effects due to autosuggestion.


Origin of hysteric
1650–60; < Latin hystericus < Greek hysterikós, suffering in the womb, hysterical (reflecting the Greeks' belief that hysteria was peculiar to women and caused by disturbances in the uterus); see hystero-, -ic
 

[benjipwns]

Nazis were punching up!

To be fair, they kinda were after 1943 or so...

[benjipwns]

ZATTNEWS: https://www.resetera.com/posts/15181611/

Alright, Avenatti's side is starting to look shady as fuck. Someone that he follows and is probably related to is sending these instagram story caps that are allegedly from the victim:



1. This is apparently from Instagram's stories.
2. First, why an Avenatti relative or fan would be aware of who this girl is since last week, if what is saying is true?
3. Avenatti goes into silent mode and his relative starts sending this to everyone? WTF?

My point is, if Avenatti or his ex-wife new about this girl to the point of knowing that these stories were posted "one day after" the alleged attacks, how she or him would know about her if he didn't know her? Since you two have been following this closer this than me, all I'm saying is that if his ex-wife isn't lying about this, he either a) knew about her or b) found out who she was via the court filing. If b) is credible, one thing to notice is that that story is from her friend's instagram, not the accuser. Either way, his ex-wife probably shouldn't be sending his "evidence" around desperately like she's doing right now.

[Drainage]

Posting on GAF post-showergate and pre-resetera has to be up there. Such a difficult 48 hours for the community.

[benjipwns]

Topic locked. We're not going to start trying to rank human atrocities.

GAMING SIDE ON NOTICE

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/almost-1-2-of-us-citations-in-academic-journals-are-self-citations.82108/

i hope somebody tells them it's because of massively increased specialization where the only papers to cite are often your prior papers, building your research on top of your prior research has never been frowned upon

this, for example, is why Jordan Peterson has so many self-cites, earlier in his career he was the only one doing a specific kind of research...as long as his papers prior were scientifically sound and valid, it's fine

although post #5 is still accurate

edit: just refreshed and:

A lot of this is authors pointing back to previously published articles about primary research they were doing. I’ve seen longitudinal datasets that yield multiple research reports, which would naturally require self-citing your old work.

clearly he read my post as i was typing it

[benjipwns]

I feel like the Avenatti thing is like a political Rorschach test.

The details are so light, you can’t really have any opinion outside of preconceived notions.

...
He was totes set up.

but we disagree about so much, like the scope of the Russia stuff, and yet I'm highly skeptical of this accusation as well

plus i mean, like, dude's character was bad enough already, some of the D love for him just because he was attacking Trump was reminding me of the period where Newt's whole 2012 campaign was based around the idea that he'd make Obama cry during the debates because he was such a master at debating, a masterdebater if you will, and that'd lock up the election no matter what else happened

doesn't mean he's a domestic abuser, lots of people have totally different private and public manners/personalities/triggers/etc.

though Newt did kill his first wife

[benjipwns]

Your work tends to evolve over time and unless you are doing something extremely niche

Which is supposed to be everyone in academia...

[Transhuman]

Topic locked. We're not going to start trying to rank human atrocities.

4. The Confederate States of America
3. The Nazi Party
2. Gengis Khan Empire
1. Tyler Malka's NeoGaf.com

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/15182350/

I have NO idea why you are so invested in me pre-emptively deciding to assign a judgement. The courts will decide what happens next.

I am comfortable waiting till the case is settled. Sorry that clearly offends you.

Because your language and rhetoric positively reeks of the type of person who has unfounded faith in oppressive institutions and who hides behind them in order to avoid the responsibility of taking a stance.

The courts have an awful, awful track record of reacting to information appropriately. Your viewpoint is a blatant defense of the shitty status quo.

Where the ability of people like Avenatti to get out on bail misleads people into thinking they're innocent!

[BIONIC]

You fuckers talking about this Avenatti feller while forgetting about the greatest hate crime of our time; the case of Robert Roberts.

#Justice4Bobby

[Bananas]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/a-bill-in-ohio-will-ban-and-criminalized-abortions.1468312/page-2#post-253589173

 

[joeboy101]

Topic locked. We're not going to start trying to rank human atrocities.

Well... that's new. Nepenthe usually loves to rank atrocities.

[Propagandhim]

in which Enzom21 doesn't realize there's different definition for hysterical:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/15159815/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/15169968/

He's so unbelievably stupid.

[Jenkem]

in which Enzom21 doesn't realize there's different definition for hysterical:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/15159815/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/15169968/

He's so unbelievably stupid.

Why don't you tell us how you really feel. 

[tummyfat]

1. Black Wall Street, Tulsa, NUFF SAID 
2. MOVE bombing in Philadelphia
3. Concentration camps I guess

[bork]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/customer-physically-trashes-gamestop-after-trying-to-return-fallout-76.1468332/#post-253589966

Black People are so civilized.

The old NeoGAF would have called this a racist comment.

The old NeoGAF would have been right. Get that crap out of here.

What? I was serious. I just said they are civilized. What's wrong with that? Are you saying they are not civilized? If true, you are the racist scum!

[agrajag]

Zatt turned on Basta Daddy already? A Disney Marvel fan is a fickle mistress indeed.

[D3RANG3D]

You fuckers talking about this Avenatti feller while forgetting about the greatest hate crime of our time; the case of Robert Roberts.

#Justice4Bobby

https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/1064612492146425857

[Momo]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/customer-physically-trashes-gamestop-after-trying-to-return-fallout-76.1468332/#post-253589966

Black People are so civilized.

The old NeoGAF would have called this a racist comment.

The old NeoGAF would have been right. Get that crap out of here.

What? I was serious. I just said they are civilized. What's wrong with that? Are you saying they are not civilized? If true, you are the racist scum!

(Image removed from quote.)

[Tuckers Law]

You fuckers talking about this Avenatti feller while forgetting about the greatest hate crime of our time; the case of Robert Roberts.

#Justice4Bobby

https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/1064612492146425857

Even his professional writing voice is crap.  It really must be difficult for Bobby to wake up and be Bobby Roberts every day.  It's crazy to me now to think that I ever thought the guy was worth listening to (to be fair, I was new to GAF's personalities and hadn't yet realized how unhinged they mostly were).

[KarpalaJoe]

 

[BIONIC]

You fuckers talking about this Avenatti feller while forgetting about the greatest hate crime of our time; the case of Robert Roberts.

#Justice4Bobby

https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/1064612492146425857

Civil Rights leader Bobby

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-look-at-people-of-color-in-the-current-batch-of-fighting-games.81779/

I was originally gonna make this a percentage thread like I did for the female fighters thread, but it'd be a bit depressing with regards to how many we have in each game. That plus counting those of East Asian descent would get a bit dicey in terms of how people would feel about the final percentage, especially with regards to fighting games from Japan. So with that said, let's take a look at some of the recent fighting games with people of color (by default).

Aren't Asians considered people of color? 

[nachobro]

Not when you have a point to prove! Facts only get in the way!

[bork]

Huh. Why wouldn't East Asians be considered people of color?

Normally they would, but they're considered a majority in games like Street Fighter & Tekken. I'd be writing a whole thesis paper on those two games alone, plus there'd be some debate on it being unfair to other games.

[Drainage]

That conversation would no longer be productive and get shut down. Things could get a little dicey.

[Averon]

This is not surprising at all. ERA (and GAF before it) has a history of excluding Asians (East Asians in particular) from the PoC club. In that sense, they share common thinking with the likes of /pol/ who consider East Asians "honorary whites".

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ringer/status/1064896671367217153

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I love how prescient this song is.



let that champagne splash.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https:// twitter.com/ringer/status/1064896671367217153

 

I mean...

There are left-wing gamers dominating news websites and podcasts, there are right-wing gamers dominating YouTube and Reddit, and they are soft-locked into a cold war with one another. It can seem as if there’s no intellectual spectrum, only the political extremes: right-wing trolls on the one end, lofty leftists in opposition.

I think most people have noticed how insufferable things have gotten

[Clockwork5]

It's good when people jump in when it's just though, and with cases framed like this one was way more often than not that "mob" gets it completely right.

I didn't use the word "justice" once, actually. Go back and check.

I almost feel sorry for ole’ Red. Imagine spending such a significant potion of your life as one of the mob that you truly believe it is the most judicious method of serving justice. Then backtracking, but not in a way that you admit it isn’t but simply saying “I never said that! Go look!”

Well i did and you said it.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

also kanye is a coon

[Uncle]

Huh. Why wouldn't East Asians be considered people of color?

Normally they would, but they're considered a majority in games like Street Fighter & Tekken. I'd be writing a whole thesis paper on those two games alone, plus there'd be some debate on it being unfair to other games.

So if there was an all-mexican fighting game would they be itemized, or ignored because they comprise a majority in their own game 

[nachobro]

its called king of fighters, ok? have a little respect

[who is ted danson?]

Why did the feds have to get 69

we need another fefe

or gummo

or gotti

or kooda

 

[HaughtyFrank]

We're going to ignore the amount of public hits made in the industry and the amount of figures in the industry that are/were actively involved in gangs. I mean there were entire tracks dedicated to claiming hits over petty shit since as late as Love Sosa.

But at least are none of them refusing to stream with women.

[Boredfrom]

Huh. Why wouldn't East Asians be considered people of color?

Normally they would, but they're considered a majority in games like Street Fighter & Tekken. I'd be writing a whole thesis paper on those two games alone, plus there'd be some debate on it being unfair to other games.

So if there was an all-mexican fighting game would they be itemized, or ignored because they comprise a majority in their own game 

There is some Mexican fighting games... that are not exactly good.

[Drainage]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-saw-this-on-the-back-of-a-car.82204/

I get the anti-“happy family decal” trend but this seems excessive.

 

[Drainage]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-my-chemical-romace-been-compared-to-queen.82181/

Ok, the forum has to be overrun with trolls.

Hi my name is Brandon and have you heard of this band 21 Pilots?

My Chemical Romance is better than Queen and more influential.

Twenty One Pilots are influenced by My Chemical Romance and they're the biggest band in the world.

How are they not? What other band can release an album of new material now and outsell their first week sales?
Only one I can think of is Metallica but even with that Metallica had an 8 year gap so it created more hype.

Biggest band.

Not in terms of album sales. Their latest album didn't even reach 100k first week.
In terms of hits I'd say it's Maroon 5. They are somehow still considered a band even though I'm pretty sure it's just Adam Levine with pop production.

First week album sales. That's what I believe matters most in terms of relevance. Sure there may be bands making more money off their back catalogs but how many of the fans are there for the first week of a new album? That's what I believe should really count.

I guess you're out of the loop then.

Not really, their latest album was quite critically acclaimed and they've shown a lot of growth and maturity.

I think you are confusing good songs and singles. My Chemical Romance has tons of good songs.

Yes. In terms of first week album sales they are easily top five. Probably first or second. Trying to think what I'm forgetting. So far it's them, Metallica and Coldplay.

They are popular in terms of making hit records. They don't seem quite as popular in terms of having a hardcore devoted fanbase.

They did five sold out shows in Columbus in one week at different venues to end their last tour.

You already dismissed them in your last post so I find it hard to believe you would be aware of their relevance.

The only reason it wouldn't touch anything in Queen's discography is because it by far exceeds all of it.

Yeah but how much of that 40 million is just three or four songs? Their latest album released earlier this month with just 91k first week sales.

 

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-saw-this-on-the-back-of-a-car.82204/

I get the anti-“happy family decal” trend but this seems excessive.

 

I always wanted to get one of those big family decals for my car but put ominous red x's through some of them

[FStop7]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tekashi69-busted-by-feds-on-racketeering-charges.81934/page-11

Pedo defense force assemble

[Straight Edge]

Well, time to name and shame this terrorist fuck and that "manager" better get their resume together, because they are going to be on their ass soon.

Fuck these douche bags, take everything from them. E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/man-pulls-gun-on-muslim-teens-at-mcdonald%E2%80%99s-in-minnesota.82164/#post-15192053

YEAH! LIKE ANY MOVIES THEY PLAN TO DIRECT FOR MARVEL!

If you showed me that video without context I would say a gang of teens stepped to some dude and he pulled out a gun in self defense and left the situation.

If you told me he said some racist remarks moments earlier, I would say usually the mob is just.

[Propagandhim]

I just got the alert from the Minnesota Star Tribune. Kind of a shitty headline too:

http://www.startribune.com/young-mc...500940452/?om_rid=2600700361&om_mid=133704137

"Young McDonald's patrons in Eden Prairie allege man pulled gun after he was shoved"

And so it begins.

Yes I'm sure the man that flashed his gun at the Muslim teens didn't have a good reason for being shoved.

But, it's good that the police are investigating "whether a crime" has occurred. And it's probably assault.

Damn, now the media wants to slander the kids.

Haha this country

 

 It's not like reporting the actual news; that this guy overreacted to a shoving takes anything away from how egregious his behavior was. 
Slander?   

[Straight Edge]

I just got the alert from the Minnesota Star Tribune. Kind of a shitty headline too:

http://www.startribune.com/young-mc...500940452/?om_rid=2600700361&om_mid=133704137

"Young McDonald's patrons in Eden Prairie allege man pulled gun after he was shoved"

And so it begins.

Yes I'm sure the man that flashed his gun at the Muslim teens didn't have a good reason for being shoved.

But, it's good that the police are investigating "whether a crime" has occurred. And it's probably assault.

Damn, now the media wants to slander the kids.

Haha this country

 

 It's not like reporting the actual news; that this guy overreacted to a shoving takes anything away from how egregious his behavior was. 
Slander?   

If only there were a recent example of an incident where additional facts changed the narrative.

[Drainage]

I just got the alert from the Minnesota Star Tribune. Kind of a shitty headline too:

http://www.startribune.com/young-mc...500940452/?om_rid=2600700361&om_mid=133704137

"Young McDonald's patrons in Eden Prairie allege man pulled gun after he was shoved"

And so it begins.

Yes I'm sure the man that flashed his gun at the Muslim teens didn't have a good reason for being shoved.

But, it's good that the police are investigating "whether a crime" has occurred. And it's probably assault.

Damn, now the media wants to slander the kids.

Haha this country

 

 It's not like reporting the actual news; that this guy overreacted to a shoving takes anything away from how egregious his behavior was. 
Slander?   

If only there were a recent example of an incident where additional facts changed the narrative.

Context is important it would have to be at a fast food joint, good luck finding something similar. Nothing is ever good enough if it goes against the narrative.

[Tripon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/15203224/



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