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« Reply #960 on: March 29, 2018, 11:24:39 AM »
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This thread seems to have been created with an intentionally misleading OP, so we are closing it to further replies.
:neogaf

They took away Malyse's thread posting privileges too

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I made a thread about a woman in South Africa getting up to three years for being a racist.
People read the OP and decided that that was too harsh.
Shao Kahn posts what she actually said, which includes threats of violence.
People start complaining that I was being disingenuous because I said she was getting tossed because of racism instead of violent threats.
(Except she is getting tossed because of racism instead of violent threats.)
I posted from the FAQ where it says to read the OP and the link and where it says not to post the whole article.
Instead of warning the guy who’s bound and determined to call me out, or warning me that my thread is inappropriate or whatever, the thread gets locked. Then the moderator edits in that I can’t make threads anymore some time later.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6116553/

BCT not taking it well

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I was so hopeful when this site was first being built that we were going to see a real change from the old place. And then when i saw that they mad Slay (and latter, Beef) a mod. I thought they were serious about real change. But that illusion was shattered within the first month, when admin openly said they didn't give a shit about known posters from the old place, making posts off-site saying they were going to make thread and posts just to start shit.

I think it worse than the old place. At least they didn't insist that things were ever going to be better.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6119152/

The part Malyse left out is that she intentionally left parts out of the OP

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I was *just* about to ask how many people clicked through to read what she had said.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/6110295/

Or at least she pretended to, as it was probably more like this


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« Reply #961 on: March 29, 2018, 11:34:23 AM »
Dennis, known colorblind pedo and Amirox associate.

This joke is older than Christopher Goldberg's last girlfriend.
Time for some new material.
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« Reply #962 on: March 29, 2018, 11:34:59 AM »
The other day I was in the airport on my way to Thailand and the TSA agent was really grilling me about what I was doing with a suitcase full of candy. I says to him, I says, "Hey, whats with all these questions? Do I look like amir0x to you?" He then pulled out a mugshot of amir0x that was in his drawer and held it up next to my face, furrowed his brow and said, "No, I guess not. You're free to go, Mr. Fish."

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« Reply #963 on: March 29, 2018, 11:36:33 AM »
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This is a place for people who care about video games, the gaming industry, gaming news and sales trends and, yes, concerning developments as described in the OP that can have a real impact on people who use MS platforms for gaming and potentially contribute to an anti-consumer shift in status quo industry-wide if left unchallenged (several other recent examples like the Overwatch announcement). So it's here being discussed and challenged as it should be.

A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM, among many other instances where speaking out about industry concerns here has influenced outcomes, so besides being the point of this place there's obvious value to adding your voice in earnest rather than acting too cool for school and feeling the need to let everyone know it.

Don't care about a topic: don't post in it. Thanks.


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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/microsoft-to-ban-offensive-language-from-xbox-live-skype-office-etc-can-be-punishable-by-forfeiture-of-your-games-and-account-balances.1461668/page-7#post-253224029

The other day I was in the airport on my way to Thailand and the TSA agent was really grilling me about what I was doing with a suitcase full of candy. I says to him, I says, "Hey, whats with all these questions? Do I look like amir0x to you?" He then pulled out a mugshot of amir0x that was in his drawer and held it up next to my face, furrowed his brow and said, "No, I guess not. You're free to go, Mr. Fish."

I saw Amir0x at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

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« Reply #964 on: March 29, 2018, 11:42:56 AM »
Answer me, bitch.

I'm not answering because I don't have a NuGAF account, you dense motherfucker. Unlike you, I don't go slinking off to a terrible message board to dick-suck in an attempt to get notoriety. Why don't you go back over there since you very fucking obviously stopped posting here once that board launched because your perma-ban on GAF was erased there.

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« Reply #965 on: March 29, 2018, 11:44:49 AM »
Answer me, bitch.

I'm not answering because I don't have a NuGAF account, you dense motherfucker. Unlike you, I don't go slinking off to a terrible message board to dick-suck in an attempt to get notoriety. Why don't you go back over there since you very fucking obviously stopped posting here once that board launched because your perma-ban on GAF was erased there.

You sound like you're taking this very seriously.

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« Reply #966 on: March 29, 2018, 11:46:39 AM »
Answer me, bitch.

I'm not answering because I don't have a NuGAF account, you dense motherfucker. Unlike you, I don't go slinking off to a terrible message board to dick-suck in an attempt to get notoriety. Why don't you go back over there since you very fucking obviously stopped posting here once that board launched because your perma-ban on GAF was erased there.

Man, that edgy schtick would have worked better if you had posted faster and if we didn't all know you by now.

You are as bad at not taking what you are dishing out as Jack Remington. Disappointing and pathetic.

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« Reply #967 on: March 29, 2018, 11:47:21 AM »
Answer me, bitch.

I'm not answering because I don't have a NuGAF account, you dense motherfucker. Unlike you, I don't go slinking off to a terrible message board to dick-suck in an attempt to get notoriety. Why don't you go back over there since you very fucking obviously stopped posting here once that board launched because your perma-ban on GAF was erased there.

You sound like you're taking this very seriously.

Yeah he turned out to be made of glass like Jack Remington. Can't take the fucking joke when it is on them. Pathetic.

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« Reply #968 on: March 29, 2018, 11:48:17 AM »
Damn is it Beach day today? Cuz y'all sound like y'all got sand in y'all's vaginas

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« Reply #969 on: March 29, 2018, 11:48:29 AM »
You are as bad at not taking what you are dishing out as Jack Remington. Disappointing.

 ::) Whatever you want to say. I actually had work to do instead of replying to your stupid shit, dork. You can think you've "won" or whatever in your stupid mindview, but again: Why don't you go back to NuGAF? Or did you get banned over there because they didn't want your bullshit either?

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« Reply #970 on: March 29, 2018, 11:49:20 AM »
You are as bad at not taking what you are dishing out as Jack Remington. Disappointing.

 ::) Whatever you want to say. I actually had work to do instead of replying to your stupid shit, dork. You can think you've "won" or whatever in your stupid mindview, but again: Why don't you go back to NuGAF? Or did you get banned over there because they didn't want your bullshit either?

You are still doing it. Not being able to take what you want to dish out.

You cracked like a little bitch after one snide comeback. Weak.

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« Reply #971 on: March 29, 2018, 11:50:50 AM »
You are as bad at not taking what you are dishing out as Jack Remington. Disappointing.

 ::) Whatever you want to say. I actually had work to do instead of replying to your stupid shit, dork. You can think you've "won" or whatever in your stupid mindview, but again: Why don't you go back to NuGAF? Or did you get banned over there because they didn't want your bullshit either?

You are still doing. Not being able to take what you want to dish out.

Ok. You win. Congrats? ::)

If it was a joke, you readily failed at making it sound like one. Considering how under the skin the pedofile and known poster Dennis joke got to you.

But whatever, I got a call I need to take to fix some stupid bullshit. See you later.

Answer me, bitch.

I'm not answering because I don't have a NuGAF account, you dense motherfucker. Unlike you, I don't go slinking off to a terrible message board to dick-suck in an attempt to get notoriety. Why don't you go back over there since you very fucking obviously stopped posting here once that board launched because your perma-ban on GAF was erased there.

You sound like you're taking this very seriously.

And you sound like you have to jump in to defend NuGAF every chance you can get. ::)

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« Reply #972 on: March 29, 2018, 11:51:46 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/6132155/

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You should not participate nor even bother addressing me if you're going to say something like that, which is an attack on my family. If you don't have the maturity to act like an adult when responding, then don't bother to respond at all. You are part of the problem of the mess we are in as a country. I am pretty sure it is also against the rules to levy attacks on a poster like that, because yes, attacking my family is an attack on me.

 :badass

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« Reply #973 on: March 29, 2018, 11:53:58 AM »
Holy fuck, all the bullshit I am taking on here in strides, and thisismyusername cracked like a little bitch at the smallest little joke.

Remember that the next time he tries his tough guy above-it-all shit.

« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 12:03:25 PM by Dennis »

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« Reply #974 on: March 29, 2018, 11:54:01 AM »
Bold strategy, but his mistake was thinking the mods see Trump voters as human beings.

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« Reply #975 on: March 29, 2018, 12:07:02 PM »
Dennis says that he is a scientist, yet he can't (or won't) cure TVC's opioid addiction.

Not cool

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« Reply #976 on: March 29, 2018, 12:07:15 PM »
Did Sony ever announce any DRM for the PS4 or was it just dumb gaf members thinking it would have it and throwing a crying fit, then acting like they won when it didn't?

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« Reply #977 on: March 29, 2018, 12:11:37 PM »
For the most part why I couldnt get into FE Warriors much. The old FEs take a shit on these waifu Emblems.

There's a definite waifu~ feel in FE Warriors, yeah. 

But funny that they are complaining about Tharja when Olivia is the most scantily-clad "embarrassing" character in the game.  :doge

Did Sony ever announce any DRM for the PS4 or was it just dumb gaf members thinking it would have it and throwing a crying fit, then acting like they won when it didn't?

There's some PSN games that will lock to your account (so you can't share them) but I think that's it?
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« Reply #978 on: March 29, 2018, 12:13:08 PM »
Bold strategy, but his mistake was thinking the mods see Trump voters as human beings.

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The alt-right latched onto black panther. I'm not going to concern myself with the things they latch onto. I'm going to concern myself with the subject matter, and in this case, I think the subject matter is important and balanced. That's my opinion as a strong liberal, who has seen families fall out over politics. I think a show *about that* is probably a positive thing for right now. The Connors are the sort of people who flipped from Obama to Trump. We need to flip those people back if possible.

Maybe I'm naïve to think Dan and Roseanne Connor are voters that can be won back, but I don't think we can afford to demonize everyone who voted Trump. His base? Fuck them. But people who voted for him but aren't in his base? I don't think they're a lost cause.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/6132836/

Mods help?

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« Reply #979 on: March 29, 2018, 12:22:57 PM »
You are as bad at not taking what you are dishing out as Jack Remington. Disappointing.

 ::) Whatever you want to say. I actually had work to do instead of replying to your stupid shit, dork. You can think you've "won" or whatever in your stupid mindview, but again: Why don't you go back to NuGAF? Or did you get banned over there because they didn't want your bullshit either?

You are still doing it. Not being able to take what you want to dish out.

You cracked like a little bitch after one snide comeback. Weak.

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« Reply #980 on: March 29, 2018, 12:25:45 PM »
Found my fathers username on freerepublic.com

HOOOOOO BOY.

 :goty2

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« Reply #981 on: March 29, 2018, 12:28:35 PM »
curiously googles freerepublic

THAT FORMAT

MY EYEZ

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« Reply #982 on: March 29, 2018, 12:30:50 PM »
Found my fathers username on freerepublic.com

HOOOOOO BOY.

 :goty2

The fact that he types by shooting his AR-15 at the keyboard should've clued you in.

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« Reply #983 on: March 29, 2018, 12:36:43 PM »
That part was in the second thread.

Yes once they realized that the woman was jailed for hate speech after all, but I think it's the whole "I was testing people if they read the article" is what got her juniored.

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« Reply #984 on: March 29, 2018, 12:37:04 PM »
wait is there seriously a thread about that distinguished mentally-challenged race divide in esports presentation?

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« Reply #985 on: March 29, 2018, 12:38:18 PM »
Isn't it a good thing not possibly being associated with esports? I wish I had that privilege. 

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« Reply #986 on: March 29, 2018, 12:50:44 PM »
Found my fathers username on freerepublic.com

HOOOOOO BOY.

 :goty2

What are his thoughts on the 0bungler shadow presidency?
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« Reply #987 on: March 29, 2018, 12:55:37 PM »
Found my fathers username on freerepublic.com

HOOOOOO BOY.

 :goty2

What are his thoughts on the 0bungler shadow presidency?

You mean the "Kenyan Usurper"?

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« Reply #988 on: March 29, 2018, 01:10:17 PM »
Isn't it a good thing not possibly being associated with esports? I wish I had that privilege.

I wish i had some of that sweet TI-winning money.

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« Reply #989 on: March 29, 2018, 01:29:42 PM »
For the most part why I couldnt get into FE Warriors much. The old FEs take a shit on these waifu Emblems.

There's a definite waifu~ feel in FE Warriors, yeah. 

But funny that they are complaining about Tharja when Olivia is the most scantily-clad "embarrassing" character in the game.  :doge

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« Reply #990 on: March 29, 2018, 01:30:00 PM »
Quote from: LionPride, post: 6120756, member: 204
When someone constantly calls you a n*gger , coon, spic, etc

You really wanna be part of that community?

Quote from: MMaRsu, post: 6121995, member: 765
Don't you use those words in the Black Culture Thread against other users all the time?

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Lionpride has responded. You sir are a dead man walking.  :patel
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« Reply #991 on: March 29, 2018, 01:35:36 PM »
For the most part why I couldnt get into FE Warriors much. The old FEs take a shit on these waifu Emblems.

There's a definite waifu~ feel in FE Warriors, yeah. 

But funny that they are complaining about Tharja when Olivia is the most scantily-clad "embarrassing" character in the game.  :doge

Titania still the best, fite me. u won't

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« Reply #992 on: March 29, 2018, 01:39:04 PM »
Haha, yeah edited my post. She killed like almost every enemy  in the first three or four battles, then I read on Gamefaqs “omg you’re doing it wrong, restart gaem” but I was like :trumps
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« Reply #993 on: March 29, 2018, 01:47:13 PM »
Lionpride has responded. You sir are a dead man walking.  :patel

I like how his posts read as a white guy doing blackface. This guy is a troll right?

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« Reply #994 on: March 29, 2018, 01:59:13 PM »
Reee continues the GAF tradition with that "how do you wipe your ass?" thread.

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« Reply #995 on: March 29, 2018, 02:07:47 PM »
the old place      :huh

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« Reply #996 on: March 29, 2018, 02:22:58 PM »
Quote from: EviLore
We're not robots and no one's expected to be here, just...mm, it bears considering sometimes what your goals are in a given debate: winning, dominating, exposing and humiliating the other party, potentially driving them away and fostering negativity all around, for ego points and cheers from the crowd and catharsis?

Hmm... who would ever possibly act in such a way?  :huh
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« Reply #997 on: March 29, 2018, 02:24:30 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/has-basic-communication-with-younger-adults-taken-a-dive.32687/

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When I say young adults, I'm mentioning 18-22 years old. Suffice to say, I'm nearing my mid twenties.

After that, things started to come together in my head. It seems like internet passive-aggressiveness has leached into everyday interaction for these folks.

Based on the conversations that I've listened to and partaken in, I can't exactly tell if they're insulting each other when they speak, or if they're having fun. Every instance of conversation seems like an attempt to out-edge each other, making me realize how unpleasant speaking to them is.

A wise 23 year old dishing out truth to those younger 18-22 year olds.  :badass

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« Reply #998 on: March 29, 2018, 02:28:45 PM »
What does messofanego love more?

A.) Virtue Signaling

B.) His mommy

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« Reply #999 on: March 29, 2018, 02:28:59 PM »
Reee continues the GAF tradition with that "how do you wipe your ass?" thread.

At least things have advanced from "do you wipe your ass?" to "how do you wipe your ass?"

That's progress!

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« Reply #1000 on: March 29, 2018, 02:31:10 PM »
I hope gen z is a nice backlash against the shallow and prude nature of millenials

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« Reply #1001 on: March 29, 2018, 02:34:45 PM »
What does messofanego love more?

A.) Virtue Signaling

B.) His mommy
C.) Skinning fat girls in his basement to make himself a coat.

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« Reply #1002 on: March 29, 2018, 02:41:00 PM »
Are there any good bits from that 10,000 word lore post from yesterday? Did anyone read it?

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« Reply #1003 on: March 29, 2018, 02:45:25 PM »
This thread about Jordan Peterson?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/jordan-petersons-most-recent-fantastic-talk.1461699/#post-253223998

Not gonna read all that crap, but of course he has to tie it into NeoGAF and himself.

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My policies always discouraged moderating like that and explicitly protected dissenting voices in pile-ons, but when it becomes second nature on a community level to dehumanize anyone at-will and label them a secret alt-right asshole no matter what they're actually saying as soon as they deviate from the Correct Position, welp, a whole lot of "secret disingenuous alt-right assholes" got the boot on those grounds, regrettably. Helps if somewhere in there a saboteur secretly bans almost all the moderate voices in the community who had been trying to make appeals to reason and calm (similar to my own...) within the emerging shitstorm, but I digress. Lessons to learn there all around, not just applied to NeoGAF but looking at NeoGAF as a microcosm of a lot of the emerging status quo on the internet at large and how much this stuff can completely undermine anything we allow it to.
:ego :ego :ego

Does he even realize that he just keeps saying the same shit over and over again?  :lol
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« Reply #1004 on: March 29, 2018, 02:49:30 PM »
He actively dehumanized people during the whole Gamergate thing and worked with the Wu/Zoe nutjobs to promote GAF as progressive friendly.

And now he is trying to court the people he ran off doing that, claiming he had nothing to do with it.

Tyler is a real piece of work.

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« Reply #1005 on: March 29, 2018, 02:49:47 PM »
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I'll transcribe a choice excerpt or two below since the OP doesn't provide much as to the contents of the 80+ minute conversation. It's worth a full watch/listen though. Thanks for sharing it up @Broseybrose .

(timecode)

JP: "Things can turn on a dime, you know. A well organized minority -- even if the majority opposes them, and they do -- a very well-organized minority can have an unbelievably pernicious effect on an organization."

JA: "Margaret Mead's made that point. People change direction when a small group of people decide to change that direction. That's the way history works."

JP: "That's what happened in the universities."

JA: "Let's come back: this issue of the redefining of language, it seems to me that there are two things that people who want to reshape society in brutal ways do. The first is, they start to silence good debate; either silence it or shut it down or whatever. The second thing they do is redefine language so that it's very hard to have a debate. So, diversity -- actually, I mean, there's no other way to put it -- in this country it's coming to mean a stifling conformity you dare not deviate from the line. And you see it with a whole lot of other words that have bandied around -- equality being one of them -- because it's confused. Equality of opportunity is confused with equality of outcome."

(skipping forward a bit) (timecode)

JP: "I think the group identity game ends in blood. Doesn't matter who plays it. Left-wingers play it: blood. Right-wingers play it: blood. And lots of it, not just a little bit. You can't play the identity politics game. Well, so what do you do instead? You live the mythologically heroic life, as an individual. That's the right place to work. And that's the message of the West as far as I'm concerned, is that we figured that out. We figured that the collective identity is not the pinnacle statement. Not that collective identities have no value; obviously, family has value and your organizations have value and all of that. That's not the issue. The issue is: what's the paramount value? What's the metric by which people should be measured? And the answer is: they should be measured as individuals, as if they have a divine soul. They should be measured in that manner."

JA: "But it can't be a selfish thing. That is to say: if I have worth and dignity I'm obliged to recognize it-- and so to you."

JP: "I think you can't recognize that you have worth and dignity without also recognizing it in others. And vice versa; I don't think I can recognize the worth of another person without stumbling onto the idea that I also have to recognize that for myself. When did you think, "well, everyone would want that," but people don't, because you're also charged with the responsibility of your own care, as if you matter. Well, that's a big responsibility! Like, it's a lot easier to assume that everything is pointless -- I mean, that's painful and all of that, but you don't bear any responsibility."

JA: "And no one lives that way."

JP: "Well, not for long."

JA: "Well, not for long, exactly. Do you know Voltaire's biographer -- it wasn't actually Voltaire himself, it was one of of the ladies who wrote one of the many biographies of him in the 1930s -- came up with that adage summarizing his views: "that I may disagree with you, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." There's a couple of things implicit in that that seem to be incredibly important. So, I may disagree with you, but you have dignity and standing and worth, and a right to put your view. That's the first thing: I'm respecting the other person.

JP: "Oh, you should crave it."

JA: "And the second thing it implies is that it's the idea on the table that's important for two reasons. One is we need to have a debate about that and not attack the person who put it there -- show some respect for them. And the second is that it's only by honest debate that you find the best way forward."


My commentary on the above:

Broadly relevant stuff, but also an important conversation to consider wrt NeoGAF specifically and how our capacity for discussion here across most sociopolitical topics became systemically undermined and all but silenced for a time, by movements that tapped into our community's generally very enthusiastically and generously afforded compassion/empathy among each other and people at large. First it was supposed to be in service of surface-benign enough concepts like self-awareness of how your privileges in society differ from the next person's and mindfulness about it in conversation. The problem there of course is that we're on an internet message board where most of us can remain totally anonymous or create whatever persona we choose at any given moment, and it's inherently prejudicial/disrespectful/dehumanizing/inappropriate when those value judgments about apparent privilege are used aggressively on others based on your preconceived notions about them from whatever they're choosing to make known about themselves on a message board (e.g. my avatar of what must surely be an oblivious Oppressor whose disgusting tier 1 privilege must have done all the legwork in life somehow and demands scorn and dismissal by default, as per the unsettling norms for how I was engaged with here throughout 2017). After so many run-ins with people content to play completely made up characters instead of an accurate representation of themselves when on the internet throughout my youth, I find it plenty rational to just think of other people on the internet as amorphous blobs who can use keyboards by default, with the goal being seeing the content of the message before any other consideration about the persona being put forth and not the other way around.

So many people lie whenever it's expedient, but exponentially more so in a consequence-free environment for it like an anonymous message board. The environment is inherently conducive to it if we allow it to be instead of leveraging the format's strengths instead. When anyone's afforded "privilege tiers" that begin to matter more than the content of their statements in debate we're already losing much of our value as a discussion platform, I'd argue, and from there it's a quick vaseline-smothered trip to the bottom of the slippery slope that we certainly slathered up head to toe for. Down at the the bottom, that privilege/oppression hierarchy masquerading as mindfulness and empathy replaces debate altogether, and authoritarian "Correct Positions" on any given subject come to be determined by a small subset of vocal users and/or moderators and enforced by piling on and running dissent off the grounds by angry mobs or trying to prompt moderator intervention, and of course always dismissing dissenting voice as disingenuous or alt-right or failing to check privilege or not appearing sufficiently qualified for the Oppression Olympics to be allowed a voice, etc. etc. etc. It's all at odds with affording a baseline of respect and dignity to each other that absolutely needs to be there to get us to any productive outcomes.

The final nail in meaningful discourse's coffin becomes moderation's eventual full complicity with this by coming to fear those dominant tone-setting personalities' apparent protected status (or bringing them on to moderate, welp...), and unfortunately default behavior gravitates from there toward silencing dissenting voices regardless of the content or validity of what's being put forward as long as its existence dares trigger an angry pile-on against it that the author's not necessarily culpable for. The users become aware of how those pile-ons can lead to dissenting voices being banned if the pile-on is angry and sensationalist enough and then strive to be as angry as they can to help prompt the ban they're aiming for.

It's a weakness of a straightforward linear posting environment, but not an insurmountable one. My policies always discouraged moderating like that and explicitly protected dissenting voices in pile-ons, but when it becomes second nature on a community level to dehumanize anyone at-will and label them a secret alt-right asshole no matter what they're actually saying as soon as they deviate from the Correct Position, welp, a whole lot of "secret disingenuous alt-right assholes" got the boot on those grounds, regrettably. Helps if somewhere in there a saboteur secretly bans almost all the moderate voices in the community who had been trying to make appeals to reason and calm (similar to my own...) within the emerging shitstorm, but I digress. Lessons to learn there all around, not just applied to NeoGAF but looking at NeoGAF as a microcosm of a lot of the emerging status quo on the internet at large and how much this stuff can completely undermine anything we allow it to.

fucking hell, I ain't reading all that. End is pretty  :lol worthy though.

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« Reply #1006 on: March 29, 2018, 02:50:20 PM »
Lionpride has responded. You sir are a dead man walking.  :patel

I like how his posts read as a white guy doing blackface. This guy is a troll right?

In real life, LionPride is an Alfred E Neumann looking dude with a 4.0 GPA.

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« Reply #1007 on: March 29, 2018, 02:50:55 PM »
Bonus:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/microsoft-to-ban-offensive-language-from-xbox-live-skype-office-etc-can-be-punishable-by-forfeiture-of-your-games-and-account-balances.1461668/page-7#post-253224029

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM, among many other instances where speaking out about industry concerns here has influenced outcomes, so besides being the point of this place there's obvious value to adding your voice in earnest rather than acting too cool for school and feeling the need to let everyone know it.

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM

:rofl :rofl :rofl
:cmonson
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« Reply #1008 on: March 29, 2018, 02:51:14 PM »
He actively dehumanized people during the whole Gamergate thing and worked with the Wu/Zoe nutjobs to promote GAF as progressive friendly.

And now he is trying to court the people he ran off doing that, claiming he had nothing to do with it.

Tyler is a real piece of work.

Tyler has to eat.

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« Reply #1009 on: March 29, 2018, 02:51:32 PM »
I love how he constructs this elaborate psychological breakdown of what happened to his forum, as if it was anything more than "A group of imbeciles created a bubble of strong-arm groupthink for years.  Mods enabled it. The end."  What is there to write about?

Does he really need Jordan Peterson's theses to bulwark against the chronicle of him losing grace over sexual harassment?  Dickhead.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 02:55:55 PM by Propagandhim »

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« Reply #1010 on: March 29, 2018, 02:51:36 PM »
Holy fuck, all the bullshit I am taking on here in strides, and thisismyusername cracked like a little bitch at the smallest little joke.

Remember that the next time he tries his tough guy above-it-all shit.


heads up that you sound distinguished mentally-challenged when you make posts like this

hope this helps your future forums posting
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« Reply #1011 on: March 29, 2018, 02:52:59 PM »
Quote
acting too cool for school and feeling the need to let everyone know it
:thinking

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« Reply #1012 on: March 29, 2018, 02:53:32 PM »
Holy fuck, all the bullshit I am taking on here in strides, and thisismyusername cracked like a little bitch at the smallest little joke.

Remember that the next time he tries his tough guy above-it-all shit.


heads up that you sound distinguished mentally-challenged when you make posts like this

hope this helps your future forums posting

Thanks for the heartfelt advice.

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« Reply #1013 on: March 29, 2018, 02:54:39 PM »
To be fair, chasing away gamergate spergs was the one thing Malka did right.

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« Reply #1014 on: March 29, 2018, 02:56:01 PM »
gaf had as much effect on the ps4 drm situation as they did on hillary being elected

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« Reply #1015 on: March 29, 2018, 02:56:05 PM »
Bonus:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/microsoft-to-ban-offensive-language-from-xbox-live-skype-office-etc-can-be-punishable-by-forfeiture-of-your-games-and-account-balances.1461668/page-7#post-253224029

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM, among many other instances where speaking out about industry concerns here has influenced outcomes, so besides being the point of this place there's obvious value to adding your voice in earnest rather than acting too cool for school and feeling the need to let everyone know it.

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM

:rofl :rofl :rofl
:cmonson

Did NeoGAF even come out against that? I don't remember. I do remember a pretty strong backlash against the Microsoft shenanigans.

But I mean, that was all over the internet.

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« Reply #1016 on: March 29, 2018, 02:56:54 PM »
I love how he constructs this elaborate psychological breakdown of what happened to his forum, as if it was anything more than "A group of imbeciles created a bubble of strong-arm groupthink for years.  Mods enabled it. The end."  What is there to write about?

Does he really need Jordan Peterson's theses to bulwark a chronicle of him losing grace over sexual harassment?  Dickhead.

In case you hadn’t seen it mentioned there was a secret, rogue moderator working in secret to secretely ban all of the more reasonable, moderate posters that lore had secretely appreciated and valued for years and years. Lore was too busy working on the site to notice hundreds of his favorite posters getting banned over the course of a few months, and so Neogaf imploded because of the secret actions of a few rogue moderators he wrongly trusted. But I digress

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« Reply #1017 on: March 29, 2018, 02:58:50 PM »
Bonus:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/microsoft-to-ban-offensive-language-from-xbox-live-skype-office-etc-can-be-punishable-by-forfeiture-of-your-games-and-account-balances.1461668/page-7#post-253224029

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM, among many other instances where speaking out about industry concerns here has influenced outcomes, so besides being the point of this place there's obvious value to adding your voice in earnest rather than acting too cool for school and feeling the need to let everyone know it.

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM

Quote from: Evilore, Shower Showman
A NeoGAF grassroots campaign got Sony to ditch the PS4 DRM

:rofl :rofl :rofl
:cmonson

First used by famousmortimer. Lore should have known when gaf turned on their hashtag champion that he was next
Zzz

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« Reply #1018 on: March 29, 2018, 03:01:14 PM »
I love how he constructs this elaborate psychological breakdown of what happened to his forum, as if it was anything more than "A group of imbeciles created a bubble of strong-arm groupthink for years.  Mods enabled it. The end."  What is there to write about?

Does he really need Jordan Peterson's theses to bulwark a chronicle of him losing grace over sexual harassment?  Dickhead.

In case you hadn’t seen it mentioned there was a secret, rogue moderator working in secret to secretely ban all of the more reasonable, moderate posters that lore had secretely appreciated and valued for years and years. Lore was too busy working on the site to notice hundreds of his favorite posters getting banned over the course of a few months, and so Neogaf imploded because of the secret actions of a few rogue moderators he wrongly trusted. But I digress

And the name of that moderator was

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« Reply #1019 on: March 29, 2018, 03:02:18 PM »
not dennis