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[benjipwns]

ya know, if one of your main issues is that you're being harassed by men, i'm not sure Congress is a very good "solution"

[Hot Slice]

Huelen explained herself best a couple of years ago in this post, which happens to be my favorite of hers:

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Every once in a while I sit down with myself asking "Dude, why are you a Huelen?"
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And I cringe, I don't smile as I feel I'm on trial asking
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"Aren't you ashamed, dear Huelen?
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You ought to be barred from the voting, you should! The ones that you'd vote for are pretty un-good!"
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Yeah?
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Well if I didn't vote for 'em, someone else would!
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That's a very good point, dear Huelen.

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[benjipwns]

Reason: User banned (1 week): making racist remarks in a sports thread

1) I cant stand curry act like a saint pre and post game and yet in the middle of the game he dives, crys, whines, taunts, and does his fucking stupid dances no 1 gives a fuck about expect for their " fans"
2) The fact green still has not been ejected is beyond me. the fact that Ker actively supports that big mouthed donkey after he goes off the range is disgusting and should be investigated.
3) Ker sitting on the bench like a bum swigging moonshine, pretending to know wtf hes doing ( taking off durrant when he got hot, and curry too) and the generic ABC pep talks and is starting to get testy with the media and is starting to show his true colors.
4) There life long "fans", if you asked them were GSW was located they would say whats a gsw.. Enough said


And fuck Adam Silver and the reff association the fact we had people on here in the match form say they should be investigated tells you enough of the fuckery that was going on last night.

Just call players animals brehs

Yeah...really not a funny shtick. Bizarre that he's been allowed to go on like that for weeks.

lol

[Propagandhim]

If they're making racist remarks, wouldn't that mean they're a racist?  And if they're a racist, why ban for only 1 week?  You want racists on your forum? 

[agrajag]

draymond does look like donkey from shrek tho

[benjipwns]

If they're making racist remarks, wouldn't that mean they're a racist?  And if they're a racist, why ban for only 1 week?  You want racists on your forum? 

they will rethink their views during their week off and return to fight for racial justice in sports threads #WakandaForever

[Transhuman]

"Like a bum swigging moonshine" is way more offensive to me than "donkey".

[Propagandhim]

If they're making racist remarks, wouldn't that mean they're a racist?  And if they're a racist, why ban for only 1 week?  You want racists on your forum? 

they will rethink their views during their week off and return to fight for racial justice in sports threads #WakandaForever

Damn.  Resetera could teach our prison industrial complex a thing or two about corrective reform.

[benjipwns]

this site is great

User banned (1 month): Deliberately trolling by posting a fake tweet

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User Banned (Permanent): Spreading misinformation about moderation, account still in the junior phase.
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ResetEra banning users who praise KINGDOM COME DELIVERANCE dev


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User banned (3 days): antagonizing posters consistently over movie opinions, ignoring modposts

I don't know why people are getting on me for wanting JJ to off Rose. To me death is a way bigger honor, than being written off in an anti-climactic way like Jar-Jar was.

Let me ask you people. Would you rather be written off by being "promoted", or would you rather end up in the Watchmojo.com top 10 list for best Star Wars character deaths? I know I want to be there with Porkins in the top 5.

User banned (duration pending): advocating for mass violence against civilian populations

I think the main problem with the US (and Russia), is that they are the only countries in the past 70 years or so that haven’t lost wars on their own soil. Getting your dick kicked in the dirt on a national level definitely makes you rethink fuckin with other people both internally and externally. Honestly it will probably take a few major cities being razed to the ground over this countries 400 years of racism and oppression and sexism for it to finally click with folks, as in it will push the liberals who will suffer most for the actions of the dumbshit GOP to basically wipe them from the face of the earth, or at least reduce them to the levels of the racist parties in Europe in terms of power.

We’ve literally been pushing this off since Sherman and the end of the civil war but it’s one of those necessary cleansing fires that most of the West went through during WW2 and the aftermath of that, while the US and Russia were relatively unscathed compared to how France and Germany looked at the end.

[benjipwns]

best part of the last one is the ending saying that Russia was "relatively unscathed" by World War II

[benjipwns]

oooh, his response to people pointing that out:

The UK got bombed to hell and back. Australia and Canada are both under the crown so boop. Sweden and Switzerland were close enough to the carnage, Spain and Portugal got sideswiped in WW1 and WW2. Basically enough of Europe had been trenched and bombed and had tanks rolling through it to cut the shit.

The US has not even had the slightest concern a foreign tank will ever roll through their streets at any institutional level in a serious manner, and I say this having drawn up wildly insane tabletop plans (like what happens if pigeons gain self awareness and go to war with the USA) working in military counterintelligence. It’s never been a real concern because you know, fuckin oceans.

Also, Russia threw tons of men at it, but was Russia anywhere near as fucked as Germany or France on a functional social level? Absolutely not. They still got to declare victory. That’s what I’m talking about. On a national level, WW2 is a win for them, period. Yeah, France won too, but nationally the cost feels much higher when you talk to the average old French person than your average old Russian.

We haven’t had shit reduced down to the foundations to actually force us to course correct. Europe had that moment and the US, for better or worse, capitalized that and launched white supremacy right back into orbit by building out a middle class that was able to really separate themselves from minorities and shit. Like I said, nothing has ever happened to white Americans on a national level to force them to confront their fucked up history with all the brown and black people that ever walked this land.

But also on another note, whenever white liberals get to blaming Russia for everything I always feel like it’s a cop out in refusing to address the fact that all they did was exploit the same flaw in the majority of white Americans that white people have refused to deal with since 1865. Like, please stop blaming Russia for Trump. Trump is a problem created and endorsed by the majority of white America and until libs really tackle the fact that the majority of white people in the history of this country have not seen other races of people as human beings, the same shit is gonna happen again, except chances are the next Trump won’t be as incompetent.

it's like he's describing the process one goes through while banned from ERA and thus learning to become socially progressive and tolerant returning as a better member of the community

[Propagandhim]

Sorry I stopped at the part where I couldn't parse his language...around "tanks rolling downs streets in an institutional way" and something about tabletops and pidgeons.

[Propagandhim]

Institutional marginalized Panzers n shit

[benjipwns]

He's saying that Europe learned the harmony of absolute tolerance from WWII while the US and Russia learned only how to use economic growth to escape non-whites:

We haven’t had shit reduced down to the foundations to actually force us to course correct. Europe had that moment and the US, for better or worse, capitalized that and launched white supremacy right back into orbit by building out a middle class that was able to really separate themselves from minorities and shit.

If we razed everything to the ground and killed hundreds of millions then the US would have no intolerance at all of disparate cultures, as Europe has not had since May 1945.

Russia's problem was that they didn't suffer enough in the ideal ways when tens of millions died in the war and entire cities were reduced to rubble. Thus, they support white supremacy still, unlike Europe.

[benjipwns]

I understand your confusion as lesser people often do not grasp the complex details by which the superiors must sacrifice in order to act as God solely for the benefit of all.

[benjipwns]

This is why The Bore's moderation has collapsed recently, as there are no mod captains to guide their ship.

[Coax]

it also shows who the real racists are considering THIS is what they use to censor free thinkers of The Bore with:
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I learned from the best, kiddo

[Kara]

Decades of American propaganda at work.

[benjipwns]

Decades of American propaganda at work.

Perhaps you should talk to the average old French person and the average old Russian person about how much higher the cost feels nationally to the former before you make sly remarks, buster.

[benjipwns]

I like when people talk about how we need a modern day Sherman to burn much of the South to the ground, thus solving white supremacy. ERA seems to really enjoy this fantasy for some odd reason.

The South that Sherman "rampaged through" was an almost totally rural area during the period, they mostly tore up railroad lines and set vast fields on fire. (And I've read more than one historian speculate it was mostly an order to give the tens of thousands of men something "organized" to do while Sherman went north and left them behind, especially considering there was no organized opposition to battle or anything left. Better they labor tearing up railroads rather than be turned loose with nothing to do.) The crown jewel of Atlanta was a town of like 10,000 people when the Army burned it down. And they waited patiently for everyone to move out first. Then rebuilt the damn thing.

And the South didn't exactly respond to it with say, a landmark century of racial tolerance. Or respect for the ways of northerners.

Not to mention burning down Atlanta and pretty much any other major southern cities today would probably mostly just kill a bunch of black people and Democrats. (So, same as in the 1860s amirite.) Plus the Omni, Atlanta's greatest historical crime, has been gone for twenty years and was built out of steel anyway. You'd need some kind of special fuel to even start to melt steel beams. Jet fuel won't do it.

edit: Even at the time Sherman's March wasn't exactly described as punishment, let alone for racial intolerance (something which was incredibly popular in the Union after all), but characterized more as being important to the overall war effort. Any punishment effect was just a bonus.

[who is ted danson?]

Benji, please stop weaponizing facts to attack progressive opinions.

[HaughtyFrank]

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User Banned (Permanent): Spreading misinformation about moderation, account still in the junior phase.
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ResetEra banning users who praise KINGDOM COME DELIVERANCE dev


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Did they already forget that it was policy that you're not allowed to praise Vavra specifically?

[Mandark]

I like when people talk about how we need a modern day Sherman to burn much of the South to the ground, thus solving white supremacy. ERA seems to really enjoy this fantasy for some odd reason.

The South that Sherman "rampaged through" was an almost totally rural area during the period, they mostly tore up railroad lines and set vast fields on fire. (And I've read more than one historian speculate it was mostly an order to give the tens of thousands of men something "organized" to do while Sherman went north and left them behind, especially considering there was no organized opposition to battle or anything left. Better they labor tearing up railroads rather than be turned loose with nothing to do.) The crown jewel of Atlanta was a town of like 10,000 people when the Army burned it down. And they waited patiently for everyone to move out first. Then rebuilt the damn thing.

And the South didn't exactly respond to it with say, a landmark century of racial tolerance. Or respect for the ways of northerners.

Not to mention burning down Atlanta and pretty much any other major southern cities today would probably mostly just kill a bunch of black people and Democrats. (So, same as in the 1860s amirite.) Plus the Omni, Atlanta's greatest historical crime, has been gone for twenty years and was built out of steel anyway. You'd need some kind of special fuel to even start to melt steel beams. Jet fuel won't do it.

edit: Even at the time Sherman's March wasn't exactly described as punishment, let alone for racial intolerance (something which was incredibly popular in the Union after all), but characterized more as being important to the overall war effort. Any punishment effect was just a bonus.

I realize the point of this was to well-actually an easy target rather than say anything serious about civil rights, but: Reconstruction.

[VomKriege]

The USSR getting it light in WW2 is for sure an opinion I haven't read before.

[jorma]

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User Banned (Permanent): Spreading misinformation about moderation, account still in the junior phase.
is this true?

ResetEra banning users who praise KINGDOM COME DELIVERANCE dev


Mod Edit: Content removed.

Did they already forget that it was policy that you're not allowed to praise Vavra specifically?

yeah calling it misinformation is revisionist history for sure, because they actioned a lot of people for praising Vavra, but i guess it's a good thing they realised how bad it made them look and don't want to be associated with that shitshow anymore.

[benjipwns]

reading some earlier discussion i had missed, i was thinking that instead of whining here about ResetERA, many of you could strive to challenge the pro-gamergate gaming media by producing a truly critical and modern progressive gaming site

for the first set of articles I suggest a debate on the Battlefield V controversy

by which of course I'm talking about whether DICE should remove the Nazi's from the game so as not to promote Nazism or remove the MP entirely so as not to promote armed conflict between groups and nations

someone else can argue in favor of keeping the Nazi's but allowing only them to be killed by players as armed conflict to destroy Nazi's is justified

another can argue that the Soviets should not be portrayed in the game so as not to promote the Putin agenda by glorifying Russia

another could perhaps suggest that the real lesson of world war ii is to not repeat any of it and so the game should be as completely unlike world war ii as possible and perhaps be a battle between space lizards and moon trolls on the rings of saturn

others might take the position that unlike the actual armies of world war ii, we know better and should have a diverse and integrated military in which Americans, Russians, Nazi's, Jews, Transgender individuals, Otherkins, Ephebophiles and so on fight together as a unit, stronger because of their diversity; although of course such a tolerant society would have no need for a military as conflict will have ended completely so you don't even see the point of producing the game as a war based FPS and that it could perhaps be a visual novel about the struggles of fast food workers asking you questions you aren't prepared for or giving you condiments you didn't request

someone else could signal that portraying the Americans as fighting Nazi's may mislead some people into supporting the current fascist American government run by Hitler 2.0 that is stamping out the progressive agenda of Disney's Lucasfilm's EA's Star Wars franchise

and so on in this manner until you imploded waypoint into a singularity of

in the meantime everyone on ERA will have been banned by everyone else for "thread derailing in bad faith" or something due to the endless set of articles that they know allowing discussion about would be nothing but a descent into proper signaling hell

don't worry about earning any profits, you can forward all proceeds onto me as a consulting fee and i'll dispose of them in a socially conscious way known as hedonism (don't look it up, you can trust me), consider it like a carbon off-set type program but for work, in that you work for my amusement and pay me to not work to offset it, if this part seems confusing that's okay, that's why i'm here as an consultant to think through these issues for you

[daemon]

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yeah, but she will spend taxypayers money creating sky nets to prevent rocks being thrown from the moon hitting bystanders, so it evens out.

[benjipwns]

your use of "bystanders" implies there are people being targeted by the moon rocks, proving her point about the dangers of space corporations dropping moon rocks

[CHOW CHOW]

no one read that Benji

[benjipwns]

and it better stay that way if anyone knows what's good for 'em

[Maiden Voyage]

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"Understands" technology is a low barrier to entry.

[bork]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/off-site-community-discussion-reset-etc-read-op-stay-civil-dont-make-it-personal-keep-it-in-here.1462647/page-2#post-253276253

I think this thread kind of illuminates why the banned ones are here: you guys don't seem civil and lack tact. Like, we got someone saying "black cheeseburger" and that person is given a warning?

Like, even allowing cross-forum drama just illuminates how petty, insecure, and toxic those banned ones are. Like, take the L and move on, or change, become better, and they'll accept you back.

[bork]

Same thread:

I can’t speak for over there, but old Gaf here would have torn the site up if bans didn’t happen here. Gaf banned to keep the asylum happy.

That's really what it comes down to. My ex-mods were not bad people and they were not power hungry (with a couple exceptions). They were legit just trying to do right by the community. I'm the person they relied on for guidance and instruction on that front, and I'm the person who's been wrangling this whole thing for nearly two decades now and keeping from going off the rails when it gets close--until recently. I was too hurt in the real world last year to take charge and fix things properly when it came off the rails. I did take measures -- like trying to fix Bish's stealth ban abuse, trying to calm people the hell down and bring reason back into the fold -- but I wasn't in the right head space to go all the way with it.  I also hadn't properly addressed some of my old immaturity and mistakes head-on like I needed to in order to do my job properly.

This thread isn't going to turn into the next NeoFAG or KiA or Voat or Kiwifarms thing, because I'm not going to let it.  It's just part of the healing process.

  OMG IT'S OFF THE CHARTS

[benjipwns]

My ex-mods were not bad people and they were not power hungry (with a couple exceptions).

shots fired at steve youngblood

[Uncle]

Reason: User banned (1 week): making racist remarks in a sports thread

lol

The best part is "in a sports thread"

They would never write "making racist remarks in a video game thread," it would just be "racism," we know what the hell the current thread is

You can tell the mod doesn't know a thing about sports or care so they're like "ugh what is this report, what are these people even talking about, well I see a poc being referred to as an animal so whatever"

[VomKriege]

This thread isn't going to turn into the next babygoats or KiA or Voat or Kiwifarms thing, because I'm not going to let it.  It's just part of the healing process.

We're doing so much healing here guys !

[headwalk]

is he already disowning the "i was tyler the dread, putrifier of morality, corrupter of light and bane of earthkin" thing?

[Mandark]

When I was an admin over there (and this is like 13-15 years ago now, jesus), Lore was clearly very conflict averse. Moderation was delegated by default, there was no guidance or effort to coordinate, and a bad situation would basically fester until he felt he had no choice to deal with it, at which point he'd make a snap judgment and get very tetchy about anyone wanting an explanation.

To be fair he was a young guy who had this fall in his lap with no experience managing people, but I don't have any reason to think the situation changed all that much.

[FunSlower]

THPS2 demo will have that song forever etched in my memory.

and it ends at the 2 minute mark. every time

ARE YOU READY TO GO---

cut

[zomgee]

THPS2 demo will have that song forever etched in my memory.

and it ends at the 2 minute mark. every time

ARE YOU READY TO GO---

cut

Jesus that is burned in my brain.

[benjipwns]

hmmm, who to believe, cowardly vile mandark or someone who has defeated thousands of internal demons cleansing himself of his toxicity?

I'm the person who's been wrangling this whole thing for nearly two decades now and keeping from going off the rails when it gets close

[HardcoreRetro]

Now that Roseanne is gone I got a new comedy show to pitch em.

Spic and span.

Tagline: Two Beaner Cleaners.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The healing process?

Slovakian please.

[benjipwns]

and it ends at the 2 minute mark. every time

ARE YOU READY TO GO---

cut

"euro barge" in the first game starts over to play a few seconds of the intro because it's under two minutes long

[benjipwns]

i have a small fascination for the soundtracks of the N64 THPSes because the songs that are there all seem like they're just randomly altered until they fit in the cart, sometimes they cut out verses, one song they cut out all the vocal sections so it becomes a weird instrumental, i think one of the tracks in the first or second game has the choruses cut out, so it just skips to the next verse which has to be the oddest decision

and some of them are extra content edited because Nintendo, it's like, why even bother keeping it on the cart, use a different one

[Tasty]

Huelen explained herself best a couple of years ago in this post, which happens to be my favorite of hers:

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Every once in a while I sit down with myself asking "Dude, why are you a Huelen?"
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And I cringe, I don't smile as I feel I'm on trial asking
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"Aren't you ashamed, dear Huelen?
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You ought to be barred from the voting, you should! The ones that you'd vote for are pretty un-good!"
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Yeah?
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Well if I didn't vote for 'em, someone else would!
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That's a very good point, dear Huelen.

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Glad to know HUELEN and TIMU have something else in common.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Wow, ResetEra permanently bans a user for being too poor.

User Banned (Permanent): Trolling throughout thread, long history of infractions for similar behaviour.

How do you scrap up money without working?

Eh, I can usually ask my dad for 20 bucks each paycheck, and he usually gives me like...5 bucks if I ask him for it. I'm pretty selective with what I buy.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/8495766/

[benjipwns]

this ban site is totally like a best of hits compilation:

User banned (duration pending): downplaying racist remarks

Um not condoning her thoughts or views. But I thought being Muslim was a religion. Kinda like saying Christians are not a race. Either way I liked the show for nostalgic purposes. I feel bad for the other cast mates like others are saying. I just think this world is way to sensitive. Who cares what other people think.

User banned (permanently): troll account.

2040 is coming. White people have oppressed minorities for long enough. As soon as the tide shifts, slavery should be reinstated... Only this time the roles will be reversed.

I can't wait!!!

[benjipwns]

woah woah woah mods, why no actioning?!?

Authoritarianism is fucking cancer. You see it everywhere in American culture, even in the progressive type crowd, and even in this forum (see any thread discussing crimes of any sort, or the spanking kids issue)

[benjipwns]

I may be a white male, but over 50% of the other white males I know hold some shitty views, & this is after pruning my social life.

[benjipwns]

User Banned (3 Days): Using the term "gay" pejoratively.

They completely misinterpreted lando. He’s a suave smooth talking ladies man but in this movie he comes across as like a flamboyant gay dude.

this deal is getting worse all the time

[daemon]

Same thread:

I can’t speak for over there, but old Gaf here would have torn the site up if bans didn’t happen here. Gaf banned to keep the asylum happy.

That's really what it comes down to. My ex-mods were not bad people and they were not power hungry (with a couple exceptions). They were legit just trying to do right by the community. I'm the person they relied on for guidance and instruction on that front, and I'm the person who's been wrangling this whole thing for nearly two decades now and keeping from going off the rails when it gets close--until recently. I was too hurt in the real world last year to take charge and fix things properly when it came off the rails. I did take measures -- like trying to fix Bish's stealth ban abuse, trying to calm people the hell down and bring reason back into the fold -- but I wasn't in the right head space to go all the way with it.  I also hadn't properly addressed some of my old immaturity and mistakes head-on like I needed to in order to do my job properly.

This thread isn't going to turn into the next babygoats or KiA or Voat or Kiwifarms thing, because I'm not going to let it.  It's just part of the healing process.

  OMG IT'S OFF THE CHARTS

Considering he's blaming himself in every interaction, I don't dislike the new Evilore. Now, idk if he's just doing an act, but at least he comes off as a more sincere down-to-earth guy.

[bork]

Same thread:

I can’t speak for over there, but old Gaf here would have torn the site up if bans didn’t happen here. Gaf banned to keep the asylum happy.

That's really what it comes down to. My ex-mods were not bad people and they were not power hungry (with a couple exceptions). They were legit just trying to do right by the community. I'm the person they relied on for guidance and instruction on that front, and I'm the person who's been wrangling this whole thing for nearly two decades now and keeping from going off the rails when it gets close--until recently. I was too hurt in the real world last year to take charge and fix things properly when it came off the rails. I did take measures -- like trying to fix Bish's stealth ban abuse, trying to calm people the hell down and bring reason back into the fold -- but I wasn't in the right head space to go all the way with it.  I also hadn't properly addressed some of my old immaturity and mistakes head-on like I needed to in order to do my job properly.

This thread isn't going to turn into the next babygoats or KiA or Voat or Kiwifarms thing, because I'm not going to let it.  It's just part of the healing process.

  OMG IT'S OFF THE CHARTS

Considering he's blaming himself in every interaction, I don't dislike the new Evilore. Now, idk if he's just doing an act, but at least he comes off as a more sincere down-to-earth guy.

[daemon]

Same thread:

I can’t speak for over there, but old Gaf here would have torn the site up if bans didn’t happen here. Gaf banned to keep the asylum happy.

That's really what it comes down to. My ex-mods were not bad people and they were not power hungry (with a couple exceptions). They were legit just trying to do right by the community. I'm the person they relied on for guidance and instruction on that front, and I'm the person who's been wrangling this whole thing for nearly two decades now and keeping from going off the rails when it gets close--until recently. I was too hurt in the real world last year to take charge and fix things properly when it came off the rails. I did take measures -- like trying to fix Bish's stealth ban abuse, trying to calm people the hell down and bring reason back into the fold -- but I wasn't in the right head space to go all the way with it.  I also hadn't properly addressed some of my old immaturity and mistakes head-on like I needed to in order to do my job properly.

This thread isn't going to turn into the next babygoats or KiA or Voat or Kiwifarms thing, because I'm not going to let it.  It's just part of the healing process.

  OMG IT'S OFF THE CHARTS

Considering he's blaming himself in every interaction, I don't dislike the new Evilore. Now, idk if he's just doing an act, but at least he comes off as a more sincere down-to-earth guy.

  fite me irl, i'll come calm and resolved from a thousand fights

[Switters]

RE: Fallout 76 a game no one knows anything about other than soft trailer and that there may or may not be some online aspect.

WTF THAT'S A HARD FUCKING PASS FROM ME THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN THE HOLOCAUST IS MAKING ME PLAY MY VIDYA WITH OTHER PEOPLE JUST LIKE MEEEEEEEEEE

  

[Cauliflower Of Love]

User Banned (3 Days): Using the term "gay" pejoratively.

They completely misinterpreted lando. He’s a suave smooth talking ladies man but in this movie he comes across as like a flamboyant gay dude.

this deal is getting worse all the time

One would think they'd be more offended at the patriarchal use of "ladies man".



Or Flamboyant.

[benjipwns]

Bomb has been planted:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-2018-counter-strike-has-been-around-for-18-years-and-you-still-cant-play-as-a-woman.45351/

People bitching about Battlefield V dredged this whole thing up. Fucking how dare these incel pieces of shit deride a game for giving girls the option to play as a character that looks like them. These toxic pieces of shit really need to just fuck right off out of this hobby. God knows how many more "hardcore" girl gamers there would be if there wasn't a firewall of negativity preventing us from feeling included in the hobby.

And fuck Counter Strike for being old as dirt and literally not giving one single iota of fucks about a sizable percentage of their audience.

Reaching Out and Community Building:

But there are plenty of games where you get to play as an asshole, so you don't know what it's like to have zero representation in genres you like.

I would love Valve to crap on their core democraphic, the stupid ass manbabies and cheating nitwits. It would be glorious.

If you’re saying that women don’t need representation in XYZ, but also not a woman, fuck off. No one gives a shit about your entitled irrelevant opinion.

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First Person Shooters are always way behind in this stuff, which isn't surprising for a genre that is focused mainly on imperialism and killing foreigners, only recently with Overwatch and Battlefield did the genre start kinda catching up to other genres.

Role Playing Games will always be ahead in terms of gender representation, and fighting games for racial representation, the industry is (sadly) playing to their audience.

I'm trying to imagine the typical valve fanboy reaction to them adding a woman model to a counter strike map and it only results in a temper tantrum

God could you imagine the abuse in game female characters would get from the other players.

The CS community is pretty toxic and I can only imagine the vile things that would get said to players using a female character if they made an error when they were last person standing.

I feel like Valve should work on making their game's community less awful first. The CS community is loaded with racist, homophobic and misogynistic dudes. I can't tell you how many times I've loaded into a competitive match only to hear a bunch of white kids throwing the N and F*t words around.

Female player models would be a step in the right direction but I feel like shitty players would just make sexist remarks about people who use them. "How did that bitch kill me", etc.

It would be cool if Valve decided to add the feature in, but any goodwill they gain from doing so will be completely undermined by an army of whiny man babies, so they'll probably keep things as they are

The thing is they shouldn't want those kinds of people in their community in the first place. Nobody should want sexist assholes in their playerbase.

I have a girl friend that play crazily CS:GO and i remember her saying to me that she would feel awkward playing as a female character because of the toxicity of the game would keep her off, people could figure her out as a woman and pick on her, this is really sad, is like she need to be incognito to enjoy the game ... what crazy time to be a gamer, i remember when i first played D&D with a girl, the reason that most of the girls didn't played RPG was because they we're shy, now they are afraid of other players =(

Maybe if this had been the standard from the very beginning, the gaming community wouldn't have been anywhere near as toxic towards women as it is now. We let "gamer culture" fester a smelly, dingy little boys club for far too long so it's going to take a long time to sort that out.

Adding female characters might actually do whole lot of good to the community of the game, weeding out the toxic assholes that would hate the change for "historical inaccuracy" or whatever and leave.

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No excuses. Ever:

Fuck that, the industry should be smothering gatekeeping babies, together. The fact that they don’t own this medium needs to be shoved down their throats.

What’s 2018 got to do with it? Women should have been represented since always, no?

If people aren't forced to play as them now and again, it'll never become normalized.

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Too late this point. I’d rather have it from the get go.

The thing is adding the option to choose between male and female characters isnt a big deal so why not just do it.

This thing really needs to become standard in MP games with 'generic' characters. Just let people toggle being male or female. At this point there's really no excuse.

There's nothing wrong with games being targeted towards a certain demographic. I don't begrudge Duke Nukem's stupid ass existence.

But there's no reason why a game like CS should be exclusive.

There's no excuse to not have women at this point.

Rainbow 6 has lots of female operators, but some of the skins are a bit questionable and most of them look like models

Literally don't see the point in genders period.

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Finale Fireworker:

In 2012, lots of people accepted status quos they are not so keen on today. Video games spent decades being a boys-first industry and women who wanted to partake in it needed to accept that to play. Just because people accepted this doesn’t mean they were happy. I am sure you could ask women all throughout the history of the medium and ask them if they were happy with how women were represented and the answer would remain consistent.

It takes a long time to break patterns. It takes a long people to get organized and find their voice and push back on something that’s affected them adversely. People who are not given stage-time have to work very hard to get it. It took until GamerGate for lots of people to finally say enough is enough. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t been a long time coming.

In 2018, we have a far more reflective and introspective industry that puts thought into things we used to take for granted. This is a good thing. Part of this involves revisiting content in ways we didn’t before - especially content that remains popular - to see how it might be improved upon.

Whether you personally prioritize that or not, there is nothing funny about that.

Counter-terrorists win:

User Banned (1 Week): Dismissive drive-by post concerning female representation.

I've always wanted to play as an alien, I guess I should start complaining about that

User Banned (1 Week): Sexism - Talking over women about their experiences

And fuck Counter Strike for being old as dirt and literally not giving one single iota of fucks about a sizable percentage of their audience.

Your argument stands stronger when you focus on your personal experience of disappointment. Don't pre-empt to speak on behalf of all females. There were 20 odd women in my CS community which I played in for 10+ years (RIP Club Axia, still miss you) that I'm comfortable saying wouldn't give a flying toss about what character they played as.

User banned (1 week): trolling, dismissive drive-by about female representation

So this is the outrage of the day?

User Banned (1 Week): Dismissing representation concerns as "identity politics".

Woo boy, I wrote a post for this thread, but deleted it instead because this shit is toxic and I couldn’t care less, but one thing I will say is: fuck identity politics.

Mod Edit: This post has been edited back to its original state for transparency.

User Banned (1 Week): Repeatedly antagonizing other users, tone policing, trolling.

I just had a mental image of OP doing 2 huge lines of coke before furiously smacking the keyboard writing up the OP. Just chill and explain yourself more calmly.

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Optimus's account on ResetEra got banned.

User Banned (Duration Pending): Misrepresenting moderation, downplaying racism.
Resetera mods really need to chill out with the out-of-left-field bannings. How about putting an explained warning on the post or PM the one you find write something you do feel is "wrong" or in the wrong thread sometimes?

Or update your ToS to include a million things people impossibly can foresee being bannable.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/8515699/

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my other main takeaway from reading like two pages of this ban site is that ResetERA has certainly pushed the late NeoGAF.com's increasing trend of turning the proud centuries long internet tradition of "trolling" into a definitionial mush where it now just means: "i don't like this"

a top favorite example: https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-cant-western-devs-match-the-melee-combat-of-japanese-developers.45305/

User Warned: Trolling with off-site material

also lmao @ OP
was it just around that time of the year?

Mod Edit: Removed off-site screenshot

I guess the last 300 responses didn't have enough substance in 2017. Kind of a weird agenda to have.

The "off-site screenshot/material" they were "trolling" with that the mods needed to remove (but not from anyone who had quoted it):


Which is a screenshot of this thread by the same exact dude from a year ago before the ResetERA began: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/why-does-melee-combat-in-western-games-lag-so-far-behind.1369234/

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You know the OP reported that post.

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I guess it just goes to show that Cerium is no Evilore at single-handedly wrangling and keeping a forum from going off the rails for two entire decades.