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[Leadbelly]

I had to post this:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10614464/

Sorry, but Cernovich’s involvement with this invalidates any sort of good faith argument with which this would be approached. This is the Cernovich’s MO, he did the same thing to Sam Seder before NBC came to their senses and rehired him.

Cernovich's involvement invalidates any sort of good faith argument. Now, I don't much care about a few edgy jokes James Gunn wrote in his past, but how does Cernovich's involvement invalidate a good faith argument exactly? The validity of an argument stands by its own merits. What difference does it make who makes the argument? And in this case, it isn't even necessarily the argument Cernovich is making it is merely his involvement in unearthing the tweets. Is there no objective standard in which people are judged? I mean, James Gunn could've made tweets that are far worse. He could have made overtly racist tweets for instance. By his logic the mere act of cernovich finding the tweets would mean all arguments that James Gunn is a racist are automatically invalid. lol

It's got to be one of the dumbest posts written in this thread.

[nudemacusers]

Curious if those accepting that twitter jokes do not fully reflect the character of their writer will accept that stand up comedy jokes do not reflect the character of their orator

[HaughtyFrank]

I had to post this:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10614464/

Sorry, but Cernovich’s involvement with this invalidates any sort of good faith argument with which this would be approached. This is the Cernovich’s MO, he did the same thing to Sam Seder before NBC came to their senses and rehired him.

Cernovich's involvement invalidates any sort of good faith argument. Now, I don't much care about a few edgy jokes James Gunn wrote in his past, but how does Cernovich's involvement invalidate a good faith argument exactly? The validity of an argument stands by its own merits. What difference does it make who makes the argument? And in this case, it isn't even necessarily the argument Cernovich is making it is merely his involvement in unearthing the tweets. Is there no objective standard in which people are judged? I mean, James Gunn could've made tweets that are far worse. He could have made overtly racist tweets for instance. By his logic the mere act of cernovich finding the tweets would mean all arguments that James Gunn is a racist are automatically invalid. lol

It's got to be one of the dumbest posts written in this thread.

It's a stupid argument that they somehow keep repeating. There are reasons why Gunn imo shouldn't have been fired, but that it was an asshole who dug up the tweets is irrelevant

[benjipwns]

Curious if those accepting that twitter jokes do not fully reflect the character of their writer will accept that stand up comedy jokes do not reflect the character of their orator

no, dead baby jokes are a step too far

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10620590/

You know, I'm pretty much always one of the guys calling shit out, someone who has no patience for this kind of stuff. But realising in this thread that for some of you all this never really was about accountability or making people realise their mistakes or acknowledging their change and their apologies...but that it's instead just about coming down with the hammer and calling people out, no matter the context is kind of an eye-opener. The dude was his own biggest critic. He NEVER hid these tweets, these jokes, he never ran away from what he said. He often talked about it unprovoked and how uncomfortable he is with how he was back then, how much better he feels these days. His words and deeds have proven him to be an ally who fights for the rights of others, even when confronted by immense hate.

To see that none of this matter to some, very simply because the dude made offensive jokes almost a decade ago is...I honestly don't know what it is. It makes me question a few things because it makes me realize that you and I do not at all want the same thing when we normally call this behaviour out. For me, it's about weeding out the racists, the sexists, the people intending to harm others and change society in ways that will benefit them and hurt or repress others. It's about showing that even offensive jokes can have meaning and hurt people. If that person realises that and honestly apologizes for it, making it clear for years and years that he came around and is staunchly on the right side of history...what benefit, exactly, do you get by going "Nah, still, fuck you"? Because to me it very simply feels like a self-righteous, nonsensical version of mob justice that doesn't indent to actually make anything better, but simply to hurt and shun. And I am 100% sure that I would find some kind of offensive, bad taste joke or statement or angry posts in your history of forum posts and personal anecdotes. So am I. I definitely made jokes just as bad as this at some points of my life. Do I deserve to lose my livelyhood because of that? No matter if that at all represents me and what I do and who I am now? Do you deserve that?

Wow. Some self-reflection and realization that Reee's mob justice 99% of the time is just vain one-ups-manship and getting high off their own self-righteousness.

[Leadbelly]

I had to post this:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10614464/

Sorry, but Cernovich’s involvement with this invalidates any sort of good faith argument with which this would be approached. This is the Cernovich’s MO, he did the same thing to Sam Seder before NBC came to their senses and rehired him.

Cernovich's involvement invalidates any sort of good faith argument. Now, I don't much care about a few edgy jokes James Gunn wrote in his past, but how does Cernovich's involvement invalidate a good faith argument exactly? The validity of an argument stands by its own merits. What difference does it make who makes the argument? And in this case, it isn't even necessarily the argument Cernovich is making it is merely his involvement in unearthing the tweets. Is there no objective standard in which people are judged? I mean, James Gunn could've made tweets that are far worse. He could have made overtly racist tweets for instance. By his logic the mere act of cernovich finding the tweets would mean all arguments that James Gunn is a racist are automatically invalid. lol

It's got to be one of the dumbest posts written in this thread.

It's a stupid argument that they somehow keep repeating. There are reasons why Gunn imo shouldn't have been fired, but that it was an asshole who dug up the tweets is irrelevant

Yeah. Which brings me back to the point that if you removed the Alt-Right from the equation and switched James Gunn with someone on the right, none of them would have a problem with it. I think the people who keep bringing up Cernovich do so because deep down they know they would act differently if it was the other way around.

[nudemacusers]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10620590/

You know, I'm pretty much always one of the guys calling shit out, someone who has no patience for this kind of stuff. But realising in this thread that for some of you all this never really was about accountability or making people realise their mistakes or acknowledging their change and their apologies...but that it's instead just about coming down with the hammer and calling people out, no matter the context is kind of an eye-opener. The dude was his own biggest critic. He NEVER hid these tweets, these jokes, he never ran away from what he said. He often talked about it unprovoked and how uncomfortable he is with how he was back then, how much better he feels these days. His words and deeds have proven him to be an ally who fights for the rights of others, even when confronted by immense hate.

To see that none of this matter to some, very simply because the dude made offensive jokes almost a decade ago is...I honestly don't know what it is. It makes me question a few things because it makes me realize that you and I do not at all want the same thing when we normally call this behaviour out. For me, it's about weeding out the racists, the sexists, the people intending to harm others and change society in ways that will benefit them and hurt or repress others. It's about showing that even offensive jokes can have meaning and hurt people. If that person realises that and honestly apologizes for it, making it clear for years and years that he came around and is staunchly on the right side of history...what benefit, exactly, do you get by going "Nah, still, fuck you"? Because to me it very simply feels like a self-righteous, nonsensical version of mob justice that doesn't indent to actually make anything better, but simply to hurt and shun. And I am 100% sure that I would find some kind of offensive, bad taste joke or statement or angry posts in your history of forum posts and personal anecdotes. So am I. I definitely made jokes just as bad as this at some points of my life. Do I deserve to lose my livelyhood because of that? No matter if that at all represents me and what I do and who I am now? Do you deserve that?

Wow. Some self-reflection and realization that Reee's mob justice 99% of the time is just vain one-ups-manship and getting high off their own self-righteousness.

It only took one of the MCU to perish for them to notice 🤷‍♂️

[Boredfrom]

For me, it's about weeding out the racists, the sexists, the people intending to harm others and change society in ways that will benefit them and hurt or repress others. It's about showing that even offensive jokes can have meaning and hurt people. If that person realises that and honestly apologizes for it, making it clear for years and years that he came around and is staunchly on the right side of history...what benefit, exactly, do you get by going "Nah, still, fuck you"?

This naivety is kind of sad. Hope he truly self reflects about this...

[benjipwns]

Cernovich's involvement invalidates any sort of good faith argument. Now, I don't much care about a few edgy jokes James Gunn wrote in his past, but how does Cernovich's involvement invalidate a good faith argument exactly? The validity of an argument stands by its own merits. What difference does it make who makes the argument? And in this case, it isn't even necessarily the argument Cernovich is making it is merely his involvement in unearthing the tweets. Is there no objective standard in which people are judged? I mean, James Gunn could've made tweets that are far worse. He could have made overtly racist tweets for instance. By his logic the mere act of cernovich finding the tweets would mean all arguments that James Gunn is a racist are automatically invalid. lol

It's a stupid argument that they somehow keep repeating. There are reasons why Gunn imo shouldn't have been fired, but that it was an asshole who dug up the tweets is irrelevant

I see you guys are confused about how this is supposed to work. See there are people on the right side of history who act in good faith, and people on the wrong side of history who act in bad faith. The actual results, and even specific events are irrelevant, what's important is the march of history in its mandated direction. Bad faith actors exploiting the tools of history to slow its march invalidates the whole process, even if it would be valid if a good faith actor did it. Intentions are what matter.

You seem to think there are principles involved, when principles exist only to be discarded when necessary to advance history. But principals (as in actors, not school administrators) are very important because they embody the intentions of history. And are the vessels which it uses to push itself forward.

James Gunn under any circumstances is clearly more on the right side of history than any GamerGater, Trump supporter, Nazi, etc. History would never choose the latter as a vessel by which to advance its means, so in this situation James Gunn is the only one who could be moving history forward so he is to be defended, especially as his opponents are not only trying to regress history but are exploiting the means by which history acts in a bad faith way purely to further regress history at a later point in time, probably on some hill they're willing to die on.

edit: Boredfrom's "guy" gets it.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Curious if those accepting that twitter jokes do not fully reflect the character of their writer will accept that stand up comedy jokes do not reflect the character of their orator

no, dead baby jokes are a step too far

Only if you miss the banister.

[benjipwns]

how many layers of whig are you on, benji

weren't you cast out of Eden?

[zepblackstar]

"Someone fired for not holding to principles we created... surely somehow this is someone else's fault..."

Weaponized morality

patrick after a decade of crap comes up with my new fav phrase

[Boredfrom]

James Gunn died for our sins.

[benjipwns]

demodded, banned

whereas I recognized and warned that ERA was compromised by GamerGate from the start, and now I simply await the cleansing, so that I can join after all incorrect thought is purged and discussion based on reality can begin

[BisMarckie]

demodded, banned

whereas I recognized and warned that ERA was compromised by GamerGate from the start, and now I simply await the cleansing, so that I can join after all incorrect thought is purged and discussion based on reality can begin

More correctly, the shell in which the cultural construction and self-education of the new Resetera member will be enclosed, will develop all the vital elements of contemporary art to the highest point. Every ResetEra member will become immeasurably stronger, wiser and subtler; his body will become more harmonized, his movements more rhythmic, his voice more musical. The forms of life will become dynamically dramatic. The new Resetera type will rise to the heights of an Aristotle, a Goethe, or a Marx. And above this ridge new peaks will rise

[benjipwns]

User Banned (Permanent): Inflammatory concern trolling, linking to alt-right material, account still in the junior phase.

"James Gunn's blog thanks Huston Huddleston for a video entitled"

Video 100: prepubescent girls touch themselves

Huston Huddleston posted this video on my Facebook page with the note "I thought you would appreciate this". My response, "Appreciate it!!? I just came all over my own face."

Those are James Gunn's words. So, unless you were having conversations like that with Amirox, I think you're ok, but with the number of apologists in this forum it's a little concerning.

[benjipwns]

User Banned (5 Days): Rationalizing colonialism + denying the existence of Palestine

I’m sure you know this but your opinion is a very small opinion (1%?) of Jewish people worldwide. It’s your opinion.

Every situation is different and I would ask for some other examples of a peoples who inhabited a land for thousands of years, were kicked out and then came back to reclaim that land. In the case of Israel, the Jewish people do have the right to claim on the land and have exercised that right. And throughout it all, even before Israel declared statehood in 1948 the Jewish people have lived on the land.

I’m not debating this from a religious, Biblical standpoint, though I could go that route too. I’m debating this from a logical, historical point of view.

Again, I hope we see the day Jewish people and Palestinian can live in the land of Israel peacefully but that would first begin with the Palestinians acknowledging Israel’s right to existence.

[Boredfrom]

Yeah, like that other user who is being rightfully quoted a lot said, it is the difference between trying to make the internet a less toxic place and just base animal desire to punish people.
No one is safer and the landscape isn't better because James Gunn got fired. Instead neonazis are fired up and confident they can destroy Trump's critics by using smear campaigns.

Time is a flat circle.

Like how many unapologetic scumbags are leeching on that post.

[benjipwns]

now i kinda want to join, make one post, and get immediately perma banned for "denying the legitimacy of the state"

[EightBitNate]

let’s try to piece together who Shosta’s alt is

[agrajag]

the James Gunn/Mike Cernovich thing really hit you guys hard, huh

[clothedmacuser]

User Banned (Permanent): Inflammatory concern trolling, linking to alt-right material, account still in the junior phase.

"James Gunn's blog thanks Huston Huddleston for a video entitled"

Video 100: prepubescent girls touch themselves

Huston Huddleston posted this video on my Facebook page with the note "I thought you would appreciate this". My response, "Appreciate it!!? I just came all over my own face."

Those are James Gunn's words. So, unless you were having conversations like that with Amirox, I think you're ok, but with the number of apologists in this forum it's a little concerning.

Beefy from that page going up against SweetNicole

ust because he apologised doesn't mean people have to accept it.

Just because Disney probably knew about this doesn't mean what Gunn said is any less disgusting it just means Disney fucked up as well.

Just because Cernovich was the dude that dug up these tweets etc doesn't change what Gunn said. (Cernovich is a alt right scum)

Am sorry but just because they are old tweets mean nothing as well he still said them.

If you insult Beefy you get banned or warned.  If you say, "I respectfully disagree with you," you will be banned.  It looks like we found at least one person Beefy can't subdue.

SweetNicole 4 lyfe

[Jansen]

let’s try to piece together who Shosta’s alt is

CoolestSpot

[Jansen]

User Banned (Permanent): Inflammatory concern trolling, linking to alt-right material, account still in the junior phase.

"James Gunn's blog thanks Huston Huddleston for a video entitled"

Video 100: prepubescent girls touch themselves

Huston Huddleston posted this video on my Facebook page with the note "I thought you would appreciate this". My response, "Appreciate it!!? I just came all over my own face."

Those are James Gunn's words. So, unless you were having conversations like that with Amirox, I think you're ok, but with the number of apologists in this forum it's a little concerning.

Beefy from that page going up against SweetNicole

ust because he apologised doesn't mean people have to accept it.

Just because Disney probably knew about this doesn't mean what Gunn said is any less disgusting it just means Disney fucked up as well.

Just because Cernovich was the dude that dug up these tweets etc doesn't change what Gunn said. (Cernovich is a alt right scum)

Am sorry but just because they are old tweets mean nothing as well he still said them.

If you insult Beefy you get banned or warned.  If you say, "I respectfully disagree with you," you will be banned.  It looks like we found at least one person Beefy can't subdue.

SweetNicole 4 lyfe

Wouldn’t it be funny if beefy got raped by like, 5 guys right now? Like right now? What if a bunch of guys just raped em…

[clothedmacuser]

lol, the only argument they have left on ERA is "it was years ago!"


Like that fucking meant anything for any conservative artist. 

Axl Rose removed the song where he says taco and nicca on a album re-issue.  It was a song he wrote in 1988 that was satiric but Enzom never forgets.  Charles Krauthammer dies and we are told that in 1983 he created the concept of crack babies. 

It reminds me of Bobert saying how in 2006 the internet was the wild west and people didn't know what they were saying. 

[Leadbelly]

(Image removed from quote.)

NEVER FORGET

https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1020416793981210624

No Patrick the so called left weaponized the left's morality first. Dipshits like you did that.

Yeah. The Left created the current over-the-top climate we now live in. Mike Cernovich has just taken advantage of it.

I dont think it was created  by the left so much of the failure of not recognizing how this stuff was already used by religious nutjobs and moral guardians and how destructive it was. Reee still thinks this as some sort of “good vs evil”, something stupid as fuck given they are actual adults that should recognize the warning signs.

I missed this earlier.

Sure, in the past it was the right campaigning for censorship, whether it be banning movies, or video games, etc. In a number of ways the Left mirror the Right of the past. I just mean the current phenomenon, in the age of social media, the voices have tended to be ideologically left. At least the voices that are generally listened to. I think part of the problem we are now seeing is caused by the amplification of activist voices through social media. In the past these issues were less of a problem because a. the public were less likely to know what views people held within the media and corporations and b. had a harder time communicating directly to these people.

The other thing we have seen is the shift in academia to point now where it is overwhelmingly Left. There is a huge emphasis now in certain fields in producing activists. This is another reason why the activism these days is coming more from the Left. And they have had an influence in shaping culture and society. We're seeing it in education; we're seeing it in corporations through diversity training; we're seeing it in the media and the entertainment we consume.

[EightBitNate]

lol, the only argument they have left on ERA is "it was years ago!"


Like that fucking meant anything for any conservative artist. 

Axl Rose removed the song where he says taco and nicca on a album re-issue.  It was a song he wrote in 1988 that was satiric but Enzom never forgets.  Charles Krauthammer dies and we are told that in 1983 he created the concept of crack babies. 

It reminds me of Bobert saying how in 2006 the internet was the wild west and people didn't know what they were saying.

Marvel Cinematic Universe
Racism
Sexism
Ableism

In that order

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10623848/

That 17 year old grew up with the internet his whole life. He'd be a fucking idiot if he posted some shit on Twitter today
You got another example or you want to keep workshopping this terrible one that doesn't apply here?

Their excuses to try to get Gunn immunity on the standards they help set are evolving

"It was years ago!!"
"Alt-right smear campaign"
"He isn't saying these things now"
"Context context context"
"But he said sorry, tho"
"The internet was different then in 2009"

Now it's "We can't hold Gunn to the standards of today like we can of other people because something something alt-right Nazis?"

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10623848/

That 17 year old grew up with the internet his whole life. He'd be a fucking idiot if he posted some shit on Twitter today
You got another example or you want to keep workshopping this terrible one that doesn't apply here?

Their excuses to try to get Gunn immunity on the standards they help set are evolving

"It was years ago!!"
"Alt-right smear campaign"
"He isn't saying these things now"
"Context context context"
"But he said sorry, tho"
"The internet was different then in 2009"

Now it's "We can't hold Gunn to the standards of today like we can of other people because something something alt-right Nazis?"

He's only apologizing because he got caught.

And why did he wait 3 years to apologize?

If he really wanted to apologize he should have donated to anti-abuse charities and spearheaded programs.

When I was 40 I wasn't making pedo jokes.

When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

[clothedmacuser]

Labor heard about Benji

This is a good time to remember that we have plenty of alt-right people here as well. Be careful about sharing too much personal info or making spicy posts, especially if you’ve revealed your occupation or workplace.

Some of these performative “progressives” are waiting for slip-ups

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-severs-ties-with-james-gunn-after-controversial-tweets.56755/page-69#post-10624184

This is still weird to me. Disney is definitely not the company to work for if you want to be transgressive I guess

 

[nachobro]

wrath pls

[Huff]

Is James Dunn being a pedo baby rapist really that big of a deal

Come on you don’t even like children anyway

But you do like brainless Disney action movies

[clothedmacuser]

What did he do for 6 years other than make marvel movies people like? Did he donate to any sexual abuse charities? The guy voiced support for NAMBLA, mocked people with AIDS, joked about raping his friend, joked about children having facials, used disgusting language.

bam!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-severs-ties-with-james-gunn-after-controversial-tweets.56755/page-70#post-10624405

[seagrams hotsauce]

i think the gunn thread is a good signal that the RE admins have to adapt or die pretty soon. one of the things that's so laughable about nu-gaf is how frequently Lore shifts the blame of Gafs former state from his personal actions to the tone of the community and his mods, as if he was completely powerless to do anything about that; he acts like it was some monster that he created and got out of control, but it's a community he fostered and cultivated. he's the one who let his mods ban people arbitrarily, with no explanation. RE hit the ground running with that as the blueprint and they're getting it from all sides; people constantly whine about both how tolerant of the alt-right every topic is, and how stupid the bans are. both of those things are gonna get worse as long as the admins continue to dig their heels into the idea that moderation is an infallible, unquestionable absolute. the amount of people who get banned for merely questioning mod decisions is really telling about how insecure the admins seem to feel about the community, and it seems completely unsustainable.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-to-make-friends-here.56837/

 

[Tasty]

we're all going to die eventually, might as well die with bacon grease shooting out your dick

Test.

[nachobro]

subtle jabs are fun.

It was originally a post aimed at beefy saying he must be fun at parties before I decided to not go out in a dumb way. Now watch as I go out anyway because RE mods probably monitor this thread.

reading some more posts, you're doing well in there lol

[nachobro]

with a report button, anyone can be a mod

[Averon]

What did he do for 6 years other than make marvel movies people like? Did he donate to any sexual abuse charities? The guy voiced support for NAMBLA, mocked people with AIDS, joked about raping his friend, joked about children having facials, used disgusting language.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10624420/

He's one of the most outspoken allies on Twitter.

Voting? Advocacy? Donation? Political activism? Bah!! But those spiffy tweets tho? Absolute master class in the war against the alt-right.

[nachobro]

very strange that a poster i've never seen before without an avatar is out here doxxing poor defenseless resetti users.

i wonder what their bore account is

[BisMarckie]

very strange that a poster i've never seen before without an avatar is out here doxxing poor defenseless resetti users.

i wonder what their bore account is

Most be one of those Russian Gamergate Neo-Nazi juniors resetera is infested with.

[Averon]

Why did the conversation suddenly turn to the hate site The Bore?

[Assimilate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-severs-ties-with-james-gunn-after-controversial-tweets.56755/page-70#post-10624713

Guess I'm out, boys.

Brows, do they know what your name is over here?

[nachobro]

Because apparently posting anywhere but RE is suspect.

time to pull the brown privilege card, friend

[clothedmacuser]

Saying outrageous and obviously wrong thing triggers a laughter response in people because they don't know how to respond so they laugh. This was the basis for the shock jock movement popularized by Howard Stern and was a major part of what made South Park popular.

What did we say about analyzing humor?

I don't like Howard Stern but only a bot-boy would think that's why people laugh.  He's probably one of those types that laughs at horror movies so he doesn't have to feel things.

I enjoy Labor's posts, they aren't a nobody.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-severs-ties-with-james-gunn-after-controversial-tweets.56755/page-70#post-10624731


If RedMercury likes it then it's worth while.  I guess Wait, Wait! Don't Tell Me! the Capitol Steps and vaseline on toast are worth while.

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10624861/



you're right, mama rice, i do love this. already killing it on there as shosta's alt account

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10624606/

Some people don’t even bother to use different avatars or usernames because it’s all forgive and forget over here lol

This just goes to show we here at the hate site The Bore ain't that slick  :'(

[benjipwns]

Engaging the Doxx9001 as we speak.

[nachobro]

meanwhile i imagine most people here agree with them on the issue of gunn being canned but whatever

[benjipwns]

I'm actually surprised the alt right went for this since it has a good chance of pissing off more than just the libs.

He seems to be under the impression that most people are going to blame the alt-right or even know what it is.

[clothedmacuser]

meanwhile i imagine most people here agree with them on the issue of gunn being canned but whatever

Same.  It's just funny seeing MS spreadsheet saying that since 6 years have passed the apology is legit. 


I hope she liked Daddys Home 2

[HaughtyFrank]

Oh damn it, so this is a hate site after all? You guys were supposed to tell me

[benjipwns]

I mean we let marrec post here don't we.

[nachobro]

He seems to be under the impression that most people are going to blame the alt-right or even know what it is.

wow typical disingenuous posting from known non-democrat and serial doxxer benji downplaying a serious and well known hate movement. i can't even with this.

[benjipwns]

Who's the victim?

good faith

[Averon]

How could we let bad faith just get away with it?

[clothedmacuser]

Just think.  In 6 years THE Papa John Schnatter will be able to return as a pizza CEO.  Not for that shit Papa Johns, but for one of Bore's Yum! temples.  Pizza Hut.

[Averon]

Oh damn it, so this is a hate site after all? You guys were supposed to tell me

You knew what you were signing up for when you joined The Bore. You ain't slick.

[benjipwns]

Because apparently posting anywhere but RE is suspect.

Quite frankly, having any kind of conversations outside of ResetERA is a little suspect. What are you trying to hide?

[agrajag]

Because apparently posting anywhere but RE is suspect.

Everything that's not Re is a hate site brah.