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« Reply #28980 on: August 18, 2018, 02:13:08 PM »
You gotta be married or you will burn in hell with the gayz

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« Reply #28981 on: August 18, 2018, 02:16:45 PM »
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Referring to the level of acceptance among the people as a whole. Europe is not friendly even on a street level to Arabs blacks and Muslims. Us and Canada has a lot of current and historical issues but people are much more willing to accept religions and cultures and revolt against discrimination. You would never see Swiss whites coming out agaisnt this decision unlike US
Living as a brown Muslim religious man I wouldn’t move to Europe but feel comfortable in US and Canada despite internal issues which eb and flow but I know the civilians have my back.


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« Reply #28982 on: August 18, 2018, 02:16:58 PM »
Probably mentioned, but the whole Klepek brief history as NeoGAF.com staff (to where like I didn't even remember it) explains why Lore went to him, and only him (not even the forum), with "his side of the story" regarding The Shower Incident when he was trying to kill the NeoGAF.com implodes stories. (Not to be confused with Amir0x's "Shower" Incident.)

Can't wait until nudemacusers can get in there and clean up the whole place.

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« Reply #28983 on: August 18, 2018, 02:18:33 PM »
Oh, Lore himself brought this up: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/patrick-klepek-gets-called-out-on-racism-sexism-rape-jokes-child-rape-jokes-voyeurism-and-more.1464743/post-253397662
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He did, yes. I've known him online since I was 14, so I trusted him when I gave him a statement about what went down, didn't ask for anything other than neutrality and pursuit of the facts, but that wasn't really the outcome. He utilized heavily biased anonymous sources that didn't accurately represent the facts and I followed up with him on Twitter a while back cordially, noted that his anonymous sources did not paint an accurate picture whatsoever, and he went straight TMZ mode looking for something I was saying that he could potentially use in a story, so I don't have much in the way of respect for the guy on a human to human level. Still, he was more professional than Kotaku.

Jason Schreier should probably be the one "exposed." Shall I share the emails where he was sucking my figurative D trying to get exposure for his book here in full promo mode on NeoGAF days before publicly claiming that he "should've seen the warning signs sooner" after signing off on the Kotaku hit piece on me and NeoGAF and distancing himself -- a story full of twitter gossip, an agenda to inflame and destroy, and zero fact checking? Maybe we should get around to that part and close the book on this activist journalist hypocrite bullshit, especially since he seems to be in full victim mode right now.

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« Reply #28984 on: August 18, 2018, 02:20:17 PM »
More Badass always at the tip of the spear for new trends :

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And? Just because America does things doesn’t mean China can’t be criticized nor does it mean that America’s shitty actions are good

(It’s called whataboutism)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/china-loses-its-shit-when-an-la-bakery-gave-taiwans-president-a-coffee.62720/page-3#post-11599860

Some posts already had me raising an eyebrow yesterday ("Well maybe we should have kept China from developing...") but in the meantime someone actually posted...

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Blame Truman for not nuking China in 1950, otherwise we would have a second and bigger Japan.

 :paul

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I quite doubt in the dysfunctional political system in the USA being capable of mounting an effective military response to a beligerent China.
Militarily? Nah Mattis would kick teeth in.

The military can and does handle itself fine. What ever dipshit tweets doesn't effect that.

- Clausewitz ?
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« Reply #28985 on: August 18, 2018, 02:23:00 PM »
the gays are taking up too much space in the debate, when are we going to talk about guns?  :gun :supergay

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« Reply #28986 on: August 18, 2018, 02:36:22 PM »
Next you'll tell me sex is only for reproduction,
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« Reply #28987 on: August 18, 2018, 02:41:00 PM »
V E R B A L R E A L E S T A T E S R I G H T S

VomKriege

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« Reply #28988 on: August 18, 2018, 02:45:27 PM »
Alice going all in :

https://www.resetera.com/threads/variety-disney-stands-firm-in-james-gunn-not-returning-to-gotg3.62263/page-24#post-11600907

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It's not true. Stop spreading Breitbard lies.

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The poster was literally talking about Gunn going to "pedo parties", the ONLY "source" for that claim was Breitbard. And for "perspective" they offered that they didn't like Vol. 2 nearly as much as the first.

There's not a single strawman there.

Has to be a troll :lol
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« Reply #28989 on: August 18, 2018, 02:49:53 PM »
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Blame Truman for not nuking China in 1950, otherwise we would have a second and bigger Japan.
"Douglas MacArthur was right!" stans would be the last thing I would have put on a list of things I expected to ever see on ERA.

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« Reply #28990 on: August 18, 2018, 02:52:28 PM »
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I have no idea about the political situation so forgive my ignorance but doesn’t China want to reclaim Taiwan “soon”? I felt like I heard about that...no idea when or how.
Only since about December 1949.

Although it's funny to see this take (from a Community Resettler too) now considering both nations have spent the last decade trying to find a way to find an opening in relations and trade while also not backing down from their claim as being the True China. Even to the point that hardliners in both states have formed an unofficial alliance against the new generation in Taiwan that wants to say "fuck that, we're Taiwan and independent. They can be China."

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« Reply #28991 on: August 18, 2018, 02:54:48 PM »
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Blame Truman for not nuking China in 1950, otherwise we would have a second and bigger Japan.
"Douglas MacArthur was right!" stans would be the last thing I would have put on a list of things I expected to ever see on ERA.

Eh...no big deal, really. We're probably only talking about ten to twenty million Chinese killed, tops. Depending on the breaks.
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« Reply #28992 on: August 18, 2018, 03:01:08 PM »
Maybe it's my pacifist leanings but I don't think nuking mainland China in the middle of an active ground war with them would have done much to turn them into a liberal democratic paradise. Japan was still occupied and being defanged at the time too.

Nuking and then invading China would have certainly brought the Soviets into the war as more than just material support.

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« Reply #28993 on: August 18, 2018, 03:02:55 PM »
Maybe it's my pacifist leanings but I don't think nuking mainland China in the middle of an active ground war with them would have done much to turn them into a liberal democratic paradise. Japan was still occupied and being defanged at the time too.

Nuking and then invading China would have certainly brought the Soviets into the war as more than just material support.

Good, would have a third bigger Japan with Russia too !
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« Reply #28994 on: August 18, 2018, 03:04:05 PM »
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Blame Truman for not nuking China in 1950, otherwise we would have a second and bigger Japan.

 :paul

China's making anime now, so what do you mean "otherwise"? ???
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33926/Quanzhi_Gaoshou
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« Reply #28995 on: August 18, 2018, 03:04:46 PM »
lol the post that's in reply to:
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I really hate how China was allowed to get as big and as important that they can do stuff like this, but it is what it is I guess.
Blame Truman for not nuking China in 1950, otherwise we would have a second and bigger Japan.
:mindblown

they're literally advocating mass genocide of the Han, what other way could China have been not allowed to get as big and as important on the global stage as they have been nearly forever?

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« Reply #28996 on: August 18, 2018, 03:06:39 PM »
lol the post that's in reply to:
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I really hate how China was allowed to get as big and as important that they can do stuff like this, but it is what it is I guess.
Blame Truman for not nuking China in 1950, otherwise we would have a second and bigger Japan.
:mindblown

they're literally advocating mass genocide of the Han, what other way could China have been not allowed to get as big and as important on the global stage as they have been nearly forever?

Maybe you should just SIT DOWN AND LISTEN, benji.
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« Reply #28997 on: August 18, 2018, 03:07:35 PM »
Don't they realize this is the Chinese equivalent of Chiang Kai-Shek coming back from the dead and saying the n-word on a bus?

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« Reply #28998 on: August 18, 2018, 03:09:33 PM »
Kuomintang is actually Chinese for GamerGate.

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« Reply #28999 on: August 18, 2018, 03:12:42 PM »
lol the post that's in reply to:
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I really hate how China was allowed to get as big and as important that they can do stuff like this, but it is what it is I guess.
Blame Truman for not nuking China in 1950, otherwise we would have a second and bigger Japan.
:mindblown

they're literally advocating mass genocide of the Han, what other way could China have been not allowed to get as big and as important on the global stage as they have been nearly forever?

Maybe you should just SIT DOWN AND LISTEN, benji.

 :maf

Filip Miucin got nuked for less

benjipwns

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« Reply #29000 on: August 18, 2018, 03:13:37 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/im-starting-to-feel-like-echo-chambers-arent-so-bad.62451/page-4#post-11559308
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I know you're already banned but fuck it – I'm sure you're reading this and laughing/crying about you being banned in whatever other communities you may or may not hang with so I'll still drop some truth shit on you.

First off, the reason minorities are talking about and expressing victimhood is, hold on to your hat, because they are being victimized by society in certain aspects. If you didn't have your head so far up your own racist ass you would also notice that there are plenty of minority communities on this forum that discuss myriad things that have nothing to do with victimhood, but I guess that doesn't matter to you? You are literally asking for them to be censored by people like you in terms of being allowed to express their concerns. You might say "that's not censorship!" and you'd be right in principle – but the reality is that some of these people have nowhere else (especially within the gaming community) to talk about these issues and that puts them in an incredibly vulnerable position.

Living with constant marginalization in a given context and then being faced with concern trolling or outright attempts at shutting down/derailing discussion of these issues simply makes most of these people walk away from the debate. That isn't a sign of them being weak, you fucking clown. That is what you would do if you were in their position, 100% guaranteed. You NOT being able to relate to this which you clearly show by claiming they need to be confronted without having their "feathers ruffled" is LITERALLY what privilege is. You don't get to confront people who suffer daily on issues you know nothing about, sorry/not sorry. Your opinion is irrelevant trash that no one should be exposed to because you have nothing genuine to add to the discussion – your only interest is asserting and maintaining your position of privilege. Why I'll never know considering as long as anyone is oppressed, we're all oppressed.

Second, racism against white people in most countries does indeed not exist whatsoever. Let me explain to you why. When we talk about "racism" in these discussions, we're talking about the systemic oppression of minorities based on how institutions and media form and shape behaviors in society. We're (usually, ask if you're confused) not talking about whether people "see color" or whether there is prejudice between people based on literally anything including skin color (there is.) You having your privilege challenged isn't racism against white people because the system is rigged for you to succeed and prosper fueled by the failure of others. THAT is what racism is and THAT is what privilege is. If your life is shit and you're not getting anywhere you want to be – that is due to the fact that racism is only a piece of the puzzle. Maybe you feel unfairly treated because you feel like shit and when others say they feel like shit you suddenly feel excluded. That doesn't justify you throwing a tantrum and asserting dominance simply because the issue that is causing others to feel like shit isn't the same issue that's causing you to. If you want to talk about your problems, go ahead and talk about your problems. If the ONLY time you wish to talk about your problems is in response to other people doing it? Kindly fuck off, then.

As I've said many times earlier in this thread: I rarely agree with pretty much anyone on this forum. In the threads where I do (say, the police killing another young black man) I honestly barely participate because I'm not interested in debating people I already agree with. There's just not much to say there. This past week I've been arguing against piracy vs game preservation, the extent to which personal responsibility applies in tackling sexism and an immigrant living in Denmark trying to tell me I'm insane for claiming there is systemic racism in Scandinavian countries. I haven't been banned or even warned in any of those threads yet I have spent every single post typing like I did in this post. If this to you comes across as someone eager to agree with everyone and shield myself from criticism, I don't know what to tell you. Open your eyes and stop being a donkey.
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« Reply #29001 on: August 18, 2018, 03:20:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/let%E2%80%99s-not-forget-that-what-gamergate-doesn%E2%80%99t-say-matters-too-ign-plagiarism.62707/
why is this OP in orange? is this some kind of sub-tier moderator thing? i'm so confused

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« Reply #29002 on: August 18, 2018, 03:23:53 PM »
Next you'll tell me sex is only for reproduction,
Wellllll :(

I don't blame you, I blame your lack of a father figure.
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benjipwns

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« Reply #29003 on: August 18, 2018, 03:25:41 PM »
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User Banned (duration pending): Spreading disinformation and peddling apologetics relating to hate and a harassment movement.

GamerGate was the product of both sides of the argument being upset that the rest of the world doesn't see their hobby the way they do. It was never about "ethics".

One side is full of bitter neckbeards who resent the fact that video gaming isn't some niche "secret club" type hobby anymore.

The other side is full of bitter tryhard-intellectuals who resent the fact that video gaming isn't seen as a viable art form on the level of film or television.
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What world do you live in? GamerGate has nothing to do with your both sides bullshit, it was and is a harassment campaign against women and LGBT people that brought the seedy misogyny lurking in the gaming fandom out into the light of day.
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One of my knee-jerk reactions when I first saw this story break was "oh shit gg is going to have a field day and go on the rise again." I wasn't thinking of the full picture. Of course they wouldn't care if a white male games "journalist" (the quotes are appropriate in this specific case) committed a legitimately huge breach of ethics. That was never what it was about.

What they don't say matters because this serves as yet another huge piece of evidence that their purported goals as a movement are not aligned with their actions or group culture. Of course everyone here already knew that, but it doesn't hurt shine a greater spotlight on it for those still in doubt.
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Want to highlight this post because I think the distinction needs to be spelled out.

Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu...all named, all harassed to oblivion and back. And yet Miucin, in contrast, is scrubbed clean. His initial reel of attention comes as a nameless worker for IGN, and the blowback is initially focused not on him, but on IGN. His name only starts popping up after the fact, once he's already been shamed, and particularly in defense for not using his name before.

It's clear to see that GG doesn't see any need to continue on him, the way they have their other targets. And it's not hard to reasonably assume that it's because he's a white man who was quickly fired.

sometimes when i read the places i often have long associated with online, like video game forums or libertarian/anarchist/"leftist" forums, i wonder why i've never become paranoid like everyone else on them seems to be

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« Reply #29004 on: August 18, 2018, 03:26:21 PM »
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« Reply #29005 on: August 18, 2018, 03:27:20 PM »
Apologetics is a pretty dope word.

It's shame that I had to lernt it from a verbose reee mod.


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« Reply #29007 on: August 18, 2018, 03:32:26 PM »
I was going to quote the whole thing but realized it was too much work to insert all the quoted posts/etc. :lol

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« Reply #29008 on: August 18, 2018, 03:36:40 PM »
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As I've said many times earlier in this thread: I rarely agree with pretty much anyone on this forum. In the threads where I do (say, the police killing another young black man) I honestly barely participate because I'm not interested in debating people I already agree with. There's just not much to say there. This past week I've been arguing against piracy vs game preservation, the extent to which personal responsibility applies in tackling sexism and an immigrant living in Denmark trying to tell me I'm insane for claiming there is systemic racism in Scandinavian countries. I haven't been banned or even warned in any of those threads yet I have spent every single post typing like I did in this post. If this to you comes across as someone eager to agree with everyone and shield myself from criticism, I don't know what to tell you. Open your eyes and stop being a donkey.

Is anyone else getting hot and bothered with the valiance of this crusader?

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« Reply #29009 on: August 18, 2018, 03:39:19 PM »
lol the post that's in reply to:
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I really hate how China was allowed to get as big and as important that they can do stuff like this, but it is what it is I guess.
Blame Truman for not nuking China in 1950, otherwise we would have a second and bigger Japan.
:mindblown

they're literally advocating mass genocide of the Han, what other way could China have been not allowed to get as big and as important on the global stage as they have been nearly forever?

Maybe we could bargain smartphones for opioids ?
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« Reply #29010 on: August 18, 2018, 04:06:29 PM »
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I rarely agree with pretty much anyone on this forum. In the threads where I do (say, the police killing another young black man) I honestly barely participate because I'm not interested in debating people I already agree with. There's just not much to say there.

Alternatively, he drops all these in the first twenty posts of a thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/sweden-disabled-man-with-toy-gun-killed-by-police.59694/
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For FUCK'S sake don't tell me that Swedish police is also becoming emboldened by paranoia now. Why in the world would they shoot to kill? Fucking furious right now.
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Fuck this shit. There is no justification for this whatsoever. As far as I'm concerned, unless a civilian is being threatened the police should NEVER shoot to kill and be prepared to give their lives over it here in Sweden. Call me extreme, but that's how I feel about it.
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It was a miniature toy rifle for kids completely made out of plastic...

"Accidents" shouldn't even be able to happen toward civilians in these types of situations. The police should be attempting to fire disabling shots AT WORST in 100% of situations unless other civilians are at risk of harm, which presumably wasn't the case here. The only way I can accept this as anything but a complete failure of our police force is if he was literally aiming at other people. Unlikely considering the time of day.
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Edit: Cue fucking nazis saying "he had it coming" and trying to spread misinformation about him having an actual gun that he apparently imported from Afghanistan. I'm fucking done. If SD get a majority in this election I'm fucking permanently going out and protesting in the street and physically blocking any of them from accessing any public buildings.
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Again, I'm extreme and don't expect anyone to agree with me here but I think that the police here in Sweden should be prepared to accept that scenario and still prioritize non-lethal fire. Also Vasastan isn't a fucking "area with previous incidents", it's literally downtown in a commercial district in one of the most peaceful capitols in the world.
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It wasn't realistic according to his father. It was literally a toy rifle for 5 year olds.

Picture of the victim btw (linked from a public Aftonbladet article):
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RIP. What a complete fucking shameful disgrace by our police.
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Fuck this shit, I need a break for a few hours. Literally fuming right now. As if disabled folks in Swedish society aren't getting further and further fucked by declining welfare benefits already, now this type of shit happens and you immediately have people desperately trying to rationalize and justify this for the sake of being rational and neutral. What the fuck is wrong with people? Next time someone questions my non-apologetic radical stance on human rights issues, look no further. Literally ashamed of the human race over shit like this.

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« Reply #29011 on: August 18, 2018, 04:15:01 PM »
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If Donald Trump's lawyers stated the sky was blue, I'd look up in the sky or refer to my previous experience and be inclined to believe the sky was blue. Every single thing that I have ever learned about a) Robert Mueller and b) the law tells me that the possibility of indictment simply isn't there.

Don't even entertain the idea because it's a waste of time.

Wow so if a Nazi told water is wet you'd agree ? Yikes.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2018-ot7-tell-me-the-bad-things-that-happened-since-i-fell-asleep.57409/page-338#post-11600876

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Lol can you imagine how fast Fox News would lose all of their sponsors if they gave Alex Jones a show?

Would they, really ? :goty2

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2018-ot7-tell-me-the-bad-things-that-happened-since-i-fell-asleep.57409/page-338#post-11601277

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it’s an entertainment show about politics
Part of the fucking problem.

Trevor Noah, Samantha Bee, John Oliver and Veep ANNIHILATED

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2018-ot7-tell-me-the-bad-things-that-happened-since-i-fell-asleep.57409/page-338#post-11601447

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Should we be surprised? Austria never underwent the de-Nazification process the way Germany did.

Except it did ?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2018-ot7-tell-me-the-bad-things-that-happened-since-i-fell-asleep.57409/page-337#post-11597923
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« Reply #29012 on: August 18, 2018, 04:18:23 PM »
that china thread is wild. china should have been nuked, that they agree with trump

 :mindblown

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« Reply #29013 on: August 18, 2018, 04:43:43 PM »
Quote from: HHG, post: 11602494, member: 11597
No one gives a shit who is here to tempt you
That's not the muslims perspective

Are you people serious? Do you even know how many muslims live by or are you still in a bubble in 2018?

Those hardcore muslims don't watch porn, many are still virgin even at old age, they consider materbation Big sin etc do I even have to carry on ? When some don't shake hands not because the man or woman front of them is nasty or will jump on you. But because they themselves the muslims are so horney where a simple touch can have impact on them and believe it or not when you live like them. Psychology wise you would pity them imo
https://www.resetera.com/posts/11602494/

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« Reply #29014 on: August 18, 2018, 04:46:43 PM »
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Should we be surprised? Austria never underwent the de-Nazification process the way Germany did.
Probably doesn't realize it was divided up among the allies too.

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« Reply #29015 on: August 18, 2018, 04:53:57 PM »
Hey ResetBanBot

I have a feature request

A heatmap of times of the day and days of the week of when most and fewest actionings occur, for the sake of finding the most optimal time to troll or post anything you want to have a chance of staying up a bit longer (such as a Klepek thread)

May also even cause them a little panic as they suddenly try to make sure staff are available to cover those times

Or alternatively, we will discover that NO TIME IS SAFE FROM THE EVER VIGILANT MODERATION OF RESETERA
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« Reply #29016 on: August 18, 2018, 04:55:56 PM »
Wait, that post is in response to this news story:
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Austrian fascists are playing a dangerous game. I don't think anyone, outside of the Kremlin is going to like the outcome

Austria’s far-right government ordered a raid on its own intelligence service. Now allies are freezing the country out.
So his version of history is that Austrian Nazi's hung around unpunished for 70 years before seizing power in the recent elections by forming a coalition with one of the parties that has been in power since 1986, including from 1999-2006 with the same "Nazi's"? And including twice in coalition or as support for the Social Democratic Party, so that they could do the bidding of the modern Kremlin?

And this "far-right raid" happened back in March too.

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« Reply #29017 on: August 18, 2018, 04:58:19 PM »
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The mistake you guys keep making is having any faith in Bill Mahar besides the fact he is a shock jock. He's just an early years Dennis Miller. As soon as the money is right he's gonna go conservative and sell out.
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« Reply #29018 on: August 18, 2018, 04:58:49 PM »
Quote from: Shy, post: 11585818, member: 5556
I only consider two (well, one, kinda. I don't consider my first to be entirely on me. Being repeatedly called a Nazi. Tends to wind me up) out of my four bans to be legit.

You know what i find funny, is that you're calling me out in this thread. When for the most rarest of times, i was actually sticking up for this place, against the posters that were calling it an echo chamber.

But hey, fuck me right ?

https://www.resetera.com/posts/11585818/

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« Reply #29019 on: August 18, 2018, 05:01:08 PM »
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The mistake you guys keep making is having any faith in Bill Mahar besides the fact he is a shock jock. He's just an early years Dennis Miller. As soon as the money is right he's gonna go conservative and sell out.
:neogaf

He's playing the long con.

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« Reply #29020 on: August 18, 2018, 05:03:06 PM »
lol at PoliERA totally ignoring studyguy posting this

https://twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh/status/1030446269242789888

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« Reply #29021 on: August 18, 2018, 05:05:50 PM »
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The mistake you guys keep making is having any faith in Bill Mahar besides the fact he is a shock jock. He's just an early years Dennis Miller. As soon as the money is right he's gonna go conservative and sell out.
:neogaf

He's playing the long con.
Holding out for the BIG CONSERVATIVE MONEY that Dennis Miller gets for...making jokes on Hannity once a week? Dude hasn't even had his radio show for three years.

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« Reply #29022 on: August 18, 2018, 05:11:17 PM »
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The mistake you guys keep making is having any faith in Bill Mahar besides the fact he is a shock jock. He's just an early years Dennis Miller. As soon as the money is right he's gonna go conservative and sell out.
:neogaf

He's playing the long con.
Holding out for the BIG CONSERVATIVE MONEY that Dennis Miller gets for...making jokes on Bill O'Rilley's podcast once a week? Dude hasn't even had his radio show for three years.

Ftfy

Also, Maher is only two years younger than Miller.

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« Reply #29023 on: August 18, 2018, 05:17:32 PM »
Hey ResetBanBot

I have a feature request

A heatmap of times of the day and days of the week of when most and fewest actionings occur, for the sake of finding the most optimal time to troll or post anything you want to have a chance of staying up a bit longer (such as a Klepek thread)

May also even cause them a little panic as they suddenly try to make sure staff are available to cover those times

Or alternatively, we will discover that NO TIME IS SAFE FROM THE EVER VIGILANT MODERATION OF RESETERA
Maybe. I could do day of week, but not time of day. It might be more relevant and accurate to track staff posting habits, and just assume more active staff = more actioning.

ResetEra user data (posts, join date, last activity) is getting populated, I just need to backfill a bit more old data and then I can start generating new graphs and stats with it.

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« Reply #29024 on: August 18, 2018, 05:26:28 PM »
sorry brehs, but shockingly REEEEs aren't wrong.

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Should we be surprised? Austria never underwent the de-Nazification process the way Germany did.
Probably doesn't realize it was divided up among the allies too.

The allies declared Austria a "victim of Nazi Germany", which constituted a narrative that until the 80s denied Austrian involvement in the Third Reich within the country. Only when people in the late 80s started to look into the subject of Austrian UN-General Secretary Waldheim hiding his history in the German Armed forces during WW2, Austrians started to reflect on the state's supporting role in Nazi Germany  - and even that debate didn't last until today. The currently co-reigning far right party was originally founded by literal ex-nazi staff in the 1949 and is known for antisemitic "slip-ups" to this day (plus fostering ultra-nationalistic fraternities). Other institutions were also full of nazis, who at worst had to work under aliases.

Wait, that post is in response to this news story:
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Austrian fascists are playing a dangerous game. I don't think anyone, outside of the Kremlin is going to like the outcome

Austria’s far-right government ordered a raid on its own intelligence service. Now allies are freezing the country out.
So his version of history is that Austrian Nazi's hung around unpunished for 70 years before seizing power in the recent elections by forming a coalition with one of the parties that has been in power since 1986, including from 1999-2006 with the same "Nazi's"? And including twice in coalition or as support for the Social Democratic Party, so that they could do the bidding of the modern Kremlin?

And this "far-right raid" happened back in March too.

The "normal" conservatives were failing in recent years, so they had a populist party reform that adopted a good chunk of the selling points of said ex-nazi party mentioned above.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2018, 05:35:40 PM by Spieler1 »

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« Reply #29025 on: August 18, 2018, 05:32:03 PM »
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The mistake you guys keep making is having any faith in Bill Mahar besides the fact he is a shock jock. He's just an early years Dennis Miller. As soon as the money is right he's gonna go conservative and sell out.
:neogaf
maher has some blind spots but I'm not sure you could accuse someone, who immediately after 9/11, criticized our middle east policy, called us cowards and lost his show, of biding his time to turn conservative.
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« Reply #29026 on: August 18, 2018, 05:33:25 PM »
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The mistake you guys keep making is having any faith in Bill Mahar besides the fact he is a shock jock. He's just an early years Dennis Miller. As soon as the money is right he's gonna go conservative and sell out.
:neogaf
maher has some blind spots but I'm not sure you could accuse someone, who immediately after 9/11, criticized our middle east policy, called us cowards and lost his show, of biding his time to turn conservative.

Most Eraeans weren't alive back then.

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« Reply #29027 on: August 18, 2018, 05:37:32 PM »
The West Germans and Allies rehabilitated tons of literal Nazi Party members too. That's where the "we don't talk about those years" jokes come from.

It was because the ideology and state were all so consuming that there would have been literally no one to do basic administration roles, especially with a hostile state sitting next door, if waivers weren't made. Adenauer literally fought off Allied denazification by passing amnesty for millions who had been placed on lists.

It's silly to posit that the Kremlin is activating Nazi sleeper cells that have hidden in plain sight, including periods in government, for 70 years because the Allies didn't copy the Soviet version of denazification.

edit: That said, I do get your point Spieler, but I'm not going to assume the nuances of it being an implied part of the statements from PoliERA, especially Autodidact of Moderate Darling™ fame, considering they can't even get historical or even modern political basics of their own country right.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2018, 05:49:44 PM by benjipwns »

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« Reply #29028 on: August 18, 2018, 05:41:13 PM »
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You're going to trade Maher for a guy who helped orchestrate and sell the war in Iraq because...you don't like his views on religion and because he says mean things?
oh PD, you're addressing a crowd where, without hesitation or reflection, suggested the solution to our population issue was sterilizing women. you're not going to get long-pole thought. :lol
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« Reply #29029 on: August 18, 2018, 05:44:31 PM »
sorry brehs, but shockingly REEEEs aren't wrong.

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Should we be surprised? Austria never underwent the de-Nazification process the way Germany did.
Probably doesn't realize it was divided up among the allies too.

The allies declared Austria a "victim of Nazi Germany", which constituted a narrative that until the 80s denied Austrian involvement in the Third Reich within the country. Only when people in the late 80s started to look into why the Austrian UN-General Secretary Waldheim hid his history in the German Armed forces during WW2 Austrians started to reflect on the state's supporting role in Nazi Germany  - and even that debate didn't really last until today. The currently co-reigning far right party was originally founded by literal ex-nazi staff in the 1949 and is known for antisemitic "slip-ups" to this day. Other institutions were also full of nazis, who at worst had to work under aliases.

Still Austria did undergo an official "denazification" by occupying powers. The post I quoted is a bit ambiguous (it could either mean it didn't at all or it wasn't as thorough than up north) yet it's not like denazification in Germany was a model of consistency or an unmitigated success either. Germany notoriously underwent a long period of "let's just not mention it" though it ended earlier in the GDR than Austria, probably.

Seems a bit simplistic to make it a direct cause of the far right blossoming there when most of Europe has been seeing a resurgence of that political sensibility for the last 25 years in liberal democracies, former communist states or neutral countries alike (Italy being one that's arguably more significant on the world stage at the moment).
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« Reply #29030 on: August 18, 2018, 05:44:32 PM »
PD got epic dunked on for his Nazi apologetics:
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While Maher does have shit views on (specific) religions, that’s not the problem, and I couldn’t care less if he was mean. He is literally arguing (more than once!) for the continued platforming of Nazi propaganda. The Iraq war was a great tragedy that should have never happened, I want people who are at least trying to prevent the next tragedy.

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« Reply #29031 on: August 18, 2018, 05:47:35 PM »
I try not to off-topic post too much but historians seem to agree that the more "gentle" the denazification process was, the better the outcome. Most interestingly the country that suffered the most (France) treated their slice of occupied Germany with the most lax rules. The harshest under the Soviets resulted in a hyper-paranoid culture where neighbors were reporting each other over personal disputes, corruption where higher level Nazis where able to bribe there way into good status while non-participant civilians were persecuted.

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« Reply #29032 on: August 18, 2018, 05:52:30 PM »
I try not to off-topic post too much but historians seem to agree that the more "gentle" the denazification process was, the better the outcome. Most interestingly the country that suffered the most (France) treated their slice of occupied Germany with the most lax rules. The harshest under the Soviets resulted in a hyper-paranoid culture where neighbors were reporting each other over personal disputes, corruption where higher level Nazis where able to bribe there way into good status while non-participant civilians were persecuted.
Not to discourage you from joining in our "off-topic" digression posts designed intentionally to upset Wraith as punishment for turning Tasty gay against his will, but the Soviets have a much better case as being the country that suffered the most.

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« Reply #29033 on: August 18, 2018, 05:54:03 PM »
There were secret high level Nazis embedded in the Soviet elite social circles? That's news to me.

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« Reply #29034 on: August 18, 2018, 05:57:32 PM »
I try not to off-topic post too much but historians seem to agree that the more "gentle" the denazification process was, the better the outcome. Most interestingly the country that suffered the most (France) treated their slice of occupied Germany with the most lax rules. The harshest under the Soviets resulted in a hyper-paranoid culture where neighbors were reporting each other over personal disputes, corruption where higher level Nazis where able to bribe there way into good status while non-participant civilians were persecuted.
Not to discourage you from joining in our "off-topic" digression posts designed intentionally to upset Wraith as punishment for turning Tasty gay against his will, but the Soviets have a much better case as being the country that suffered the most.
The eastern front well known for being arguably being the most brutal theaters in the entire war. But the entire country of France was occupied and under enemy martial law. Russia was never occupied in the same way.

"Suffered the most" is in context to the handling of non-participant civilians. These aren't civilians working in enemy factories, or living on farm fields on the front lines. They're civilians under controlled occupation, it's a different context.

There were secret high level Nazis embedded in the Soviet elite social circles? That's news to me.
All countries kept critical Nazis around after the war, soviets were no exception to this. This goes beyond R&D stuff like operation paperclip, too.

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« Reply #29035 on: August 18, 2018, 05:59:48 PM »
There were secret high level Nazis embedded in the Soviet elite social circles? That's news to me.
For a brief period as he was rising in power, opponents tried to claim Gorbachev had a secret past as a Nazi collaborator.

Then everybody realized he wouldn't have been old enough. And the rest of the elderly Politburo kept dying on their own anyway. :lol



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« Reply #29038 on: August 18, 2018, 06:06:06 PM »
I don't think it's so much the denazification or lack thereof that was a problem in Soviet occupied area rather than the new system had some similarities to the old one. All the Western occupied parts weren't as thorough as the policy was supposed to be, because in the end everyone came to the conclusion you couldn't run the country on a mundane day to day basis and/or create huge pockets of unemployed malcontents with no social outlets if you really did purge everyone. AFAIK it is always the case in occupied countries and recently Iraq was a stark reminder of it.

The policy wasn't meritless and probably had some positive effects. Ultimately, the advance in international norms / Nuremberg-Tokyo trials, intense moral castigation (irrespective of how deeply practiced it was, both by the western and soviet allies) and especially -for two such militaristic regimes- the neutering of the ability to project force are probably what helped the transition for both Japan and Germany. Plus the fact those countries were "developed" and could easily be reincorporated in the community of World Powers (to circle back to the "China would be a second Japan if we had the balls to Hiroshima it a little") minus the military bits.
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« Reply #29039 on: August 18, 2018, 06:08:03 PM »
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