Some of these posts aren't sounding very supportive.
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Quote from: nudemacusers on August 30, 2018, 11:12:58 AM“For the price range” is like excusing a hookup by saying the girl was the least ugly in the bar.better than most ugly in the bar
“For the price range” is like excusing a hookup by saying the girl was the least ugly in the bar.
Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree that FFXV isn't a sexist game. I wrote a fucking five-part essay series on how hideously misogynistic it is.
"how men act alone by themselves" is a synonimous to "locker room talk" and we all know where that leads
Do you really need to update the title thread with an increased upvote count? Who cares even the slightest about reddit?
Hi, lesbian here. The lack of female party members was a huge sticking point for me with FFXV (aside from the hideous sexism that pervades every other aspect of the narrative, I mean).
QuoteHere is another comparison I'm surprised hasn't been posted yet in this thread.(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)Quote100% a density and LoD downgradeQuoteI see a completely different set of lighting, a different traffic pattern, as well as much more aggressive DOF and Motion Blur. Not seeing a downgrade (there isn't one)A large majority of the thread isn't even debating whether or not "downgrading" is necessary or not for optimizing games for shitty consoles, they're outright saying that they "don't exist".I mean, I know we like to exaggerate here, but I'd say a good 90%+ of posts are dismissing the idea that some of the more obvious points even exist.Even when looking at the difference between two exact points in cutscenes. Like, how? I thought we all knew that this song and dance happens with every single major game between E3 and release.
Here is another comparison I'm surprised hasn't been posted yet in this thread.
100% a density and LoD downgrade
I see a completely different set of lighting, a different traffic pattern, as well as much more aggressive DOF and Motion Blur. Not seeing a downgrade (there isn't one)
Quote from: 213372bu on August 30, 2018, 05:13:34 PMQuoteHere is another comparison I'm surprised hasn't been posted yet in this thread.(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)Quote100% a density and LoD downgradeQuoteI see a completely different set of lighting, a different traffic pattern, as well as much more aggressive DOF and Motion Blur. Not seeing a downgrade (there isn't one)A large majority of the thread isn't even debating whether or not "downgrading" is necessary or not for optimizing games for shitty consoles, they're outright saying that they "don't exist".I mean, I know we like to exaggerate here, but I'd say a good 90%+ of posts are dismissing the idea that some of the more obvious points even exist.Even when looking at the difference between two exact points in cutscenes. Like, how? I thought we all knew that this song and dance happens with every single major game between E3 and release.Sfeggits are insane when it comes to exclusives. If this Spiderman game was multiplat the thread would get a couple pages max
Quote from: stufte on August 30, 2018, 05:13:36 PMThe woke brigade is eating itself in the "why women criticize" thread.https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/page-11Persephone and PhazonBlonde both vying for the gold medal in the oppression Olympics.As an art designer in the industry, you're one of a handful of people on these boards who can directly do something about their concerns, and instead you only mock them
The woke brigade is eating itself in the "why women criticize" thread.https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/page-11Persephone and PhazonBlonde both vying for the gold medal in the oppression Olympics.
18,000,000 alt-righters
QuoteI see a completely different set of lighting, a different traffic pattern, as well as much more aggressive DOF and Motion Blur. Not seeing a downgrade (there isn't one)A large majority of the thread isn't even debating whether or not "downgrading" is necessary or not for optimizing games for shitty consoles, they're outright saying that they "don't exist".
Quote from: BIONIC-ARRRMMM!! on August 30, 2018, 01:43:03 PMQuote from: bork on August 30, 2018, 10:51:21 AMOne more minor posting edit:Way to white wash a PoC you fucking cunt.Always knew the Bore was a racist shithole.(Image removed from quote.)
Quote from: bork on August 30, 2018, 10:51:21 AMOne more minor posting edit:Way to white wash a PoC you fucking cunt.Always knew the Bore was a racist shithole.
One more minor posting edit:
"Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree that FFXV isn't a sexist game. I wrote a fucking five-part essay series on how hideously misogynistic it is."five parts too much.
That line fucking cracked me up. I wish I’d seen the facial expression that accompanied the frenzied typing.
Quote from: Raist on August 30, 2018, 05:36:49 PMQuoteHi, lesbian here. The lack of female party members was a huge sticking point for me with FFXV (aside from the hideous sexism that pervades every other aspect of the narrative, I mean). Imagine thinking "yep, I'm gonna click the Post button now, I don't sound like I'm insane at all".The party members are all dudes.Do you really not see how that would make some potential buyers less interested in the game?
QuoteHi, lesbian here. The lack of female party members was a huge sticking point for me with FFXV (aside from the hideous sexism that pervades every other aspect of the narrative, I mean). Imagine thinking "yep, I'm gonna click the Post button now, I don't sound like I'm insane at all".
I was also going to point out how fucking cool Linkle is despite everything pointing to her being lame pre-release. Like, she's just Dante.Unfortunately, there's no actual gifs of her combos. Instead, if you Google search "linkle combo gifs", this pops up: spoiler (click to show/hide)[close]
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/page-11Persephone and PhazonBlonde both vying for the gold medal in the oppression Olympics.
Tbh I'm not going to pretend that straight/bi women's fetishisation of MLM is anywhere near the level of straight dudes' fetishisation of WLW but it's still very much A Problem in fandom spaces. Whenever I see people proclaim they love teh yaois I side-eye them hard. Part of the reason stories about gay men tend to do so much better than stories about lesbians is because while straight women will happily squee over their ~uwu trash gay sin babies~ they don't want to consume media about lesbians because they can't fetishise us :/ Hence an already underrepresented demographic gets shafted even further because while straight dudes will jerk it to lesbian porn they don't want to watch cute fluffy "Love Simon"-esque romcoms about us and straight women don't want to consume WLW content
Are you seriously getting angry that straight women aren’t consuming yuri? Do you even know how many women buy that stuff?Also way to erase bi existences; I consume both yaoi and yuri a lot, and I’m currently in a relationship with another girl
No?? I'm pointing out that women's fetishisation of MLM is just as problematic as men's fetishisation of WLW, if not as widespread, and that it's a big problem in fandom spaces.
This is both inaccurate (more straight women consume lesbian media than straight men do media about gay men), entirely ignoring bi women exist who consume both (like me) and shaming women for exercising their sexual autonomy. I love how women are being shamed for that in a thread about women criticizing sexualalized female designs. Great derail there
Okay listen I'm obviously all for women exerting their sexual autonomy but not if it comes at the expense of gay men. I've had MULTIPLE MLM tell me about how much they fucking hate yaoi/slash culture and how hurtful it is to them. That's not something I made up to shame anyone, it's what actual gay/bi men have said repeatedly. Fetishisation of queer people is harmful! Full stop!
Fuck this. You're literally explaining this to a queer woman in a relationship with a woman. They are not even REMOTELY the same thing due to how men assault rape and abuse women. No fucking gay man is afraid of being raped by a pack of fangirls because they kissed their boyfriend in public. Me and my girfriend HAVE almost been raped due to kissing in public because of perverted men. The fact that you think you're educating me about this when I'm literally having a discussion with another bi woman in another thread about this issue is fucking hilarious. And the fact that you think yaoi fangirls harmlessly writing slash fiction is the same as men actually following queer women and trying to take videos, pictuers of them or sexualyl assault them is just about the most offensive shit I've ever seen on this board.
I'm not saying gay men are in danger from straight women. But that doesn't change the fact that fetishisation of LGBT+ is shitty no matter the context/situation. That's what I'm fucking saying. Men fetishising lesbians is gross. Women fetishising gay men is gross. Fetishisation is gross. Even if the end result isn't the same, it's still gross. Saying MLM aren't allowed to complain about being fetishised because WLW have it worse, which, yes, I'm aware, is fucking gross. All fetishisation is bad. The end. I'm not going to respond to you any more on this topic.
And i’m ignoring you and not posting in this thread anymore. GG alienating other queer women;you’re sure to win a lot of allies with your combatative attitude /s
it allows them to point at such in-fighting and say to the masses "see, and this is how they treat their own!"
I bet it's already happening somewhere
Quote from: stufte on August 30, 2018, 05:13:36 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/page-11Persephone and PhazonBlonde both vying for the gold medal in the oppression Olympics. this needs quotingQuote from: PersephoneTbh I'm not going to pretend that straight/bi women's fetishisation of MLM is anywhere near the level of straight dudes' fetishisation of WLW but it's still very much A Problem in fandom spaces. Whenever I see people proclaim they love teh yaois I side-eye them hard. Part of the reason stories about gay men tend to do so much better than stories about lesbians is because while straight women will happily squee over their ~uwu trash gay sin babies~ they don't want to consume media about lesbians because they can't fetishise us :/ Hence an already underrepresented demographic gets shafted even further because while straight dudes will jerk it to lesbian porn they don't want to watch cute fluffy "Love Simon"-esque romcoms about us and straight women don't want to consume WLW content Quote from: PhazonBlondeAre you seriously getting angry that straight women aren’t consuming yuri? Do you even know how many women buy that stuff?Also way to erase bi existences; I consume both yaoi and yuri a lot, and I’m currently in a relationship with another girlQuote from: PersephoneNo?? I'm pointing out that women's fetishisation of MLM is just as problematic as men's fetishisation of WLW, if not as widespread, and that it's a big problem in fandom spaces.Quote from: PhazonBlondeThis is both inaccurate (more straight women consume lesbian media than straight men do media about gay men), entirely ignoring bi women exist who consume both (like me) and shaming women for exercising their sexual autonomy. I love how women are being shamed for that in a thread about women criticizing sexualalized female designs. Great derail there Quote from: PersephoneOkay listen I'm obviously all for women exerting their sexual autonomy but not if it comes at the expense of gay men. I've had MULTIPLE MLM tell me about how much they fucking hate yaoi/slash culture and how hurtful it is to them. That's not something I made up to shame anyone, it's what actual gay/bi men have said repeatedly. Fetishisation of queer people is harmful! Full stop! Quote from: PhazonBlondeFuck this. You're literally explaining this to a queer woman in a relationship with a woman. They are not even REMOTELY the same thing due to how men assault rape and abuse women. No fucking gay man is afraid of being raped by a pack of fangirls because they kissed their boyfriend in public. Me and my girfriend HAVE almost been raped due to kissing in public because of perverted men. The fact that you think you're educating me about this when I'm literally having a discussion with another bi woman in another thread about this issue is fucking hilarious. And the fact that you think yaoi fangirls harmlessly writing slash fiction is the same as men actually following queer women and trying to take videos, pictuers of them or sexualyl assault them is just about the most offensive shit I've ever seen on this board.Quote from: PersephoneI'm not saying gay men are in danger from straight women. But that doesn't change the fact that fetishisation of LGBT+ is shitty no matter the context/situation. That's what I'm fucking saying. Men fetishising lesbians is gross. Women fetishising gay men is gross. Fetishisation is gross. Even if the end result isn't the same, it's still gross. Saying MLM aren't allowed to complain about being fetishised because WLW have it worse, which, yes, I'm aware, is fucking gross. All fetishisation is bad. The end. I'm not going to respond to you any more on this topic. Quote from: PhazonBlondeAnd i’m ignoring you and not posting in this thread anymore. GG alienating other queer women;you’re sure to win a lot of allies with your combatative attitude /s
The Bore is all about RLM and Era is all about MLM
What the fuck are MLM and WLM
Quote from: Stro on August 30, 2018, 06:57:40 PMWhat the fuck are MLM and WLMNext you’ll be asking what BLM is.You ain’t slick, bitch.
Massive Limp Mammaries
Also the img width command has been broken for a bit
eh, I'm pretty sure she's not the type of lesbian people fetihize
Me and my girfriend HAVE almost been raped due to kissing in public because of perverted men.
The most offensive thing for me was the inability to upgrade the Gerudo armor in Breath of the Wild. If you want to play as a "female" Link, you're going to get one-shotted by all the late game enemies.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-please-understand-a-mature-game-isnt-the-f-word-every-8-seconds.65289/PLEASE UNDERSTAND CDPR
I consume both yaoi and yuri a lot
This is factually wrong. Yes, he has worked on erotica anime, more of that recently, but it in no way is 'the majority' of his work.
