Admit it. If you came into a realm that reflected me, you'd run. I see you horsefuckers and come straight at you. That is not a bubble.
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QuoteBeat me to thread , OPI’ve been beating the anti norm drum for the last few years now QuoteOne of my bans was for attacking Norm. I'm proud of that one.
Beat me to thread , OPI’ve been beating the anti norm drum for the last few years now
One of my bans was for attacking Norm. I'm proud of that one.
grease gutters!
Also the racists like that cartoonist were enabled. I simply don't feel bad for the ump because he's not dealing with sexism or racism from people emboldened by this, and not one comment from him decrying it
Btw what she said was she felt that losing an entire game for calling him a thief felt to her like a sexist remark, note she is speaking of the action.
Incel, how do you keep using that racism card when it doesn’t have any funds?
I almost expect folks to start calling it the s word soon.It’s utterly telling that the word sexist is being treated as an insult above all insults.
QuoteBecause it lead to mass harassment and death threats...I'm not sure how much clearer people can make it for you.She is not calling for that, she is not encouraging anyone to do that. She is not celebrating that or endorsing that... and that would have happened if she had said it was because of her specifically and not spoken to her experiences of sexism within the game.
Because it lead to mass harassment and death threats...I'm not sure how much clearer people can make it for you.
Yikes at Incel using GamerGate logic in that thread. She ain't slick.
She is not calling for that, she is not encouraging anyone to do that. She is not celebrating that or endorsing that... and that would have happened if she had said it was because of her specifically and not spoken to her experiences of sexism within the game
Y’all really acting like they gonna have to put the man in witness protection lol
Different actions have different expectations yes. Most of the people I’m sure you think you’re calling me out for being a hypocrite on do their things with full knowledge of what their fan base will do, laregrly because they cultivate that fan base. That’s why we call it siccing their fan base.
Don't blame Serena for her fans being shitty.Those fans have agency. Those fans can choose not to be shitty. They're choosing to be shitty on their own.
As far as accusing Ramos without evidence, you don't need a documented history of bias before you can accuse someone of bias
there’s little point in trying to hold athletes who criticize referees accountable for harassment because sports fans will do it anyway, regardless of the outcome
The Magna Carta? Although I'm sure democracy would have caught on through other means anyway.
The burning of the Library of Alexandria?A huge one for sure. Some scholars think it set humanity back centuries.
Yup, it set us back hundreds of years.
Going back further, I want to say the American Revolution was a pretty big deal—it mucked up European Politics for decades and was the beginning of the end of Imperialism as far as I know—but I could be wrong.
Quote from: Skullfuckers Anonymous on September 11, 2018, 07:40:08 PMYikes at Incel using GamerGate logic in that thread. She ain't slick.QuoteShe is not calling for that, she is not encouraging anyone to do that. She is not celebrating that or endorsing that... and that would have happened if she had said it was because of her specifically and not spoken to her experiences of sexism within the gameI'm glad that she has finally forgiven Total biscuitEdit: I'm embarassingly late to the party
I'm going to quote myself from the other thread below.As far as accusing Ramos without evidence, you don't need a documented history of bias before you can accuse someone of bias. Think about studies that have shown implicit bias when it comes to African American names in resumes or judging the persuasiveness of a piece of legal writing when the author is perceived to be black. People (especially black people) knew long before there was statistical evidence to support their claims of implicit bias that this was the case. According to this line of thinking, one could only raise the question of implicit bias AFTER these studies. It's raising the questions and making the accusations that leads to the studies and research that oftentimes do support the original claim "with absolutely no evidence." In the legal world, Ramos would win this "case" easily. Cases of implicit bias, selective enforcement and the like place the burden of proof on the plaintiff (Serena) to prove that the law enforcement would have acted differently but for the plaintiff's [sex, race, etc.]. That's an incredibly difficult burden to prove, which is why we see these cases rarely win. But intuitively, we know that the bias occurs exponentially more than we are able to prove. As applied here, sure it's far from definitive that Ramos acted with bias. But that does not mean that Serena's contention is completely invalid and unfair as lots have argued. If we flipped the burden of proof, those opposing Serena similarly cannot prove that Ramos acted without bias.
GG has already had such an impact in just a few years, imagine what another 100 could be like
Quote from: Professor QuixoteI'm going to quote myself from the other thread below.As far as accusing Ramos without evidence, you don't need a documented history of bias before you can accuse someone of bias. Think about studies that have shown implicit bias when it comes to African American names in resumes or judging the persuasiveness of a piece of legal writing when the author is perceived to be black. People (especially black people) knew long before there was statistical evidence to support their claims of implicit bias that this was the case. According to this line of thinking, one could only raise the question of implicit bias AFTER these studies. It's raising the questions and making the accusations that leads to the studies and research that oftentimes do support the original claim "with absolutely no evidence." In the legal world, Ramos would win this "case" easily. Cases of implicit bias, selective enforcement and the like place the burden of proof on the plaintiff (Serena) to prove that the law enforcement would have acted differently but for the plaintiff's [sex, race, etc.]. That's an incredibly difficult burden to prove, which is why we see these cases rarely win. But intuitively, we know that the bias occurs exponentially more than we are able to prove. As applied here, sure it's far from definitive that Ramos acted with bias. But that does not mean that Serena's contention is completely invalid and unfair as lots have argued. If we flipped the burden of proof, those opposing Serena similarly cannot prove that Ramos acted without bias.Lmao.You can't prove he's not biased, therefore he's biased.
Norm has always literally seemed kind of dumb.Like borderline think he's trolling but I'm not sure, but that could be how well he pulls it off.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/12510241/QuoteYes, this is a problem with superhero movies and comics in general. Also a problem with a lot of black heroes. It's hard to name 6 black heroes that don't have "Black" in their title.
Yes, this is a problem with superhero movies and comics in general. Also a problem with a lot of black heroes. It's hard to name 6 black heroes that don't have "Black" in their title.
Quote from: EightBitNate on September 11, 2018, 04:54:01 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/posts/12510241/QuoteYes, this is a problem with superhero movies and comics in general. Also a problem with a lot of black heroes. It's hard to name 6 black heroes that don't have "Black" in their title.(Image removed from quote.)
Quote from: Pepinappe on September 11, 2018, 09:05:48 PMQuote from: EightBitNate on September 11, 2018, 04:54:01 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/posts/12510241/QuoteYes, this is a problem with superhero movies and comics in general. Also a problem with a lot of black heroes. It's hard to name 6 black heroes that don't have "Black" in their title.(Image removed from quote.)I know you are new here, but please don't dox people
It depends on the situation. In a game with the 2 best women's tennis players in the world for all the marbles, one of whom has struggled to overcome racism and sexism for years and one who has and has many years of that ahead of her, and I'm a man in a position of authority, I'm going to take that into consideration. Any professional setting where I have an opportunity to hear a woman out who is clearly passionate about the subject and isn't like an immediate threat to my safety or something, why not? Take a breath, hear her out, it's not the end of the world.
Red Mercury suggests the ref should have shut up and listened QuoteIt depends on the situation. In a game with the 2 best women's tennis players in the world for all the marbles, one of whom has struggled to overcome racism and sexism for years and one who has and has many years of that ahead of her, and I'm a man in a position of authority, I'm going to take that into consideration. Any professional setting where I have an opportunity to hear a woman out who is clearly passionate about the subject and isn't like an immediate threat to my safety or something, why not? Take a breath, hear her out, it's not the end of the world.https://www.resetera.com/posts/12526931
Quote from: Bore Expert on September 11, 2018, 03:47:16 PMBore ASMR ? lol, fucking beaks man. that is so creepy. i can see him doing something like this but without the mask
Bore ASMR ?
It's easy to argue otherwise, he just couldn't have done it. He could have said "I hear you, I promise we will have this conversation after the game" and he could have given a warning he was going to issue a violation.
QuoteIt's easy to argue otherwise, he just couldn't have done it. He could have said "I hear you, I promise we will have this conversation after the game" and he could have given a warning he was going to issue a violation. RedMercury trying so hard to become a mod
Quote from: HaughtyFrank on September 11, 2018, 10:11:23 PMRed Mercury suggests the ref should have shut up and listened QuoteIt depends on the situation. In a game with the 2 best women's tennis players in the world for all the marbles, one of whom has struggled to overcome racism and sexism for years and one who has and has many years of that ahead of her, and I'm a man in a position of authority, I'm going to take that into consideration. Any professional setting where I have an opportunity to hear a woman out who is clearly passionate about the subject and isn't like an immediate threat to my safety or something, why not? Take a breath, hear her out, it's not the end of the world.https://www.resetera.com/posts/12526931They should have just let Serena win. I mean who are we to uphold rules when a passionate outspoken woman wishes to cheat? Is it really harming anyone?
That's also assuming she wasn't rational enough to have a conversation, I heard the audio and saw clips, I saw how exasperated and hurt she was, I don't think she was beyond reason. Men use that excuse or characterization all the time on women who are just showing emotion.
Norm has been an ass for years. I'm sure the alt-right fanbase he's working so hard to cultivate will suit him fine.
QuoteGoing back further, I want to say the American Revolution was a pretty big deal—it mucked up European Politics for decades and was the beginning of the end of Imperialism as far as I know—but I could be wrong.