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Jenkem · « **Reply #55620 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:11:51 AM »

Quite a lot of downplaying of a hate movement in this thread.

benjipwns · « **Reply #55621 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:13:34 AM »

Also, I'm no Canadian expert, but I'm going to suggest that there's a negative relationship between people who sit in the front row of math class and future mass shooters. Even if they do wear MAGA hats. (Participation in mainstream political groups/events probably also is negative.)

benjipwns · « **Reply #55622 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:15:05 AM »

Quote from: Jenkem on January 28, 2019, 04:11:51 AM

Quite a lot of downplaying of a hate movement in this thread.

We're the incels seducing all the women that Grizznkev has to war against after his activist parties.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #55623 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:15:30 AM »

Not only is Nintendo racist, they also spread incel propaganda. Have you ever asked yourself why Chad-Bowser is the bad guy?

BisMarckie · « **Reply #55624 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:27:43 AM »

When you do a google search for 'chad bowser', this guy is the first result.

This guy fucks.

benjipwns · « **Reply #55625 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:44:27 AM »

the "chad meme" is kinda funny to me because all the real Chads I've ever known were all gross losers and not in the fun The Bire way, but that guy, that guy right there is a total Chad

benjipwns · « **Reply #55626 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:47:10 AM »

what is this i don't even

benjipwns · « **Reply #55627 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:48:59 AM »

http://www.chadbowser.com/

lol

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Chad Bowser is a freelance game designer living in Kernersville, NC. He has done work for companies including AEG, Chaosium, Heresy Games, and Cubicle 7. He prefers writing horror, espionage, and steampunk, particularly when the genres converge.

Chad started gaming in middle school and wrote his first scenario, an adventure for Pendragon, for his high school English class. His teacher might not have been sure how to grade it, but writing that scenario ignited in Chad a desire to write the games that people play. He took time off from game writing to earn a bachelor's degree in Classical Archaelogy and a master's in Medieval History, but never stopped gaming.

benjipwns · « **Reply #55628 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:51:40 AM »

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Summary
Dr. Chad Bowser, MD is a board certified emergency medicine physician in Columbia, Tennessee. He is currently licensed to practice medicine in Tennessee, Alabama, and Florida.

putting down this doctor as my emergency contact

virgin award winning doctor: runs multiple medical tests to try and find out what's wrong with patients
Dr. Chad Bowser: eye balls the problem, nails it on first guess

virgin award winning doctor: brings in team of the world's top specialists and most skilled surgeons to construct a plan to carry out groundbreaking and innovative treatment
Dr. Chad Bowser: pushes it with his thumb, cures patient completely

virgin award winning doctor: sedates patients perfectly so they don't feel anything
Dr. Chad Bowser: "no pain, no gain", patient still doesn't feel anything, *winks*

VomKriege · « **Reply #55629 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:06:44 AM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/who-to-reach-to-here-about-subpar-moderating-incidents.96157/

benjipwns · « **Reply #55630 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:34:52 AM »

i think multiple people have bitched that they don't ever respond to anything

they don't even respond to benita's terrorism on twitter

benjipwns · « **Reply #55631 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:38:39 AM »

lmao at calling that a troll account, their posting history looks like it's nothing but in good faith and honesty

i mean there's lots of bitching about stuff i don't care about and they might be touched in the head, there's a strange argument about Overwatch that they couldn't let go that seems to be what this is all about, but this inflammatory disingenuous dismissive misrepresentation and downplaying of the meaning of trolling cannot stand!

benjipwns · « **Reply #55632 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:40:58 AM »

i think this is what they're upset about:

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Woof, Chicken certainly is something alright. It's like arguing with a modern Republican.

Shouldn't have began to engage Chicken based on reading their previous interactions with other people. Best thing is to fill up that ignore list I guess.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/overwatch-world-cup-all-star-games-live-ot-no-symmetras-allowed.62509/post-17251963

benjipwns · « **Reply #55633 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:42:05 AM »

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User Warned: Inappropriate Commentary

Relax guys. This is his shtick. He's probably already got a lotioned hand on his dick, ready for replies.

Uncle · « **Reply #55634 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:45:57 AM »

smh you don't lotion the hand, you lotion the dick directly

benjipwns · « **Reply #55635 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:53:08 AM »

i'm starting to really get into their warnings for "inappropriate commentary"

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/miniature-gaming-era-modelling-playing-painting.1114/post-17294190

User Warned: Inappropriate Commentary

Let me know what you want to offload for Zombicide. I am looking for a few things still. Like the Knight Pledge & Huntsman packs, but not at ass raping prices.

ooh this one needed elevation

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/games-that-psychologically-damaged-you.95973/post-17286766

User Banned (1 day): Inflammatory commentary

None. Games are toys, and I don't suffer from mental illness.

benjipwns · « **Reply #55636 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:54:50 AM »

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-thought-of-supporting-a-70-marginal-tax-rate-the-global-elite-at-davos-burst-into-laughter.95314/post-17166420

User warned: Historical reference implying violence

Time to invest in guillotines. The world is gonna need a lot of em.

HISTORICAL REFERENCE IMPLYING VIOLENCE

benjipwns · « **Reply #55637 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:56:12 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 27, 2019, 12:42:52 AM

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/heres-why-gina-rodriguez-is-currently-receiving-criticism-from-the-black-community-for-her-actions-statements-concerning-black-issues.95800/post-17266724
User Banned (Duration Pending) Racism

A Latin person being ignorant and slightly racist maybe? Shocked!

Ps: just say Latin. Like no one is gonna think ancient Rome. I mean Latin America is around...people from Latin decent etc.

this got updated to THREE WEEKS

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benjipwns · « **Reply #55638 on:** January 28, 2019, 07:02:24 AM »

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-releases-video-about-metroid-prime-4-development-currently-below-expectations-will-redo-from-scratch-with-retro-studios.95653/post-17233013

User Banned (3 Days): Antagonizing other members and history of system wars
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Same old Nintendo. They just can't keep pace with development. Generation after generation they acknowledge they need to come out with more content at a faster pace because they lack the big third party titles and most buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games. Yet delays keep happening.

It's great they are being transparent on the surface but I can't help wonder if they knew all along they had to tease this game earlier on purpose. The timing is also questionable waiting until after the busy holiday sales to tell everyone it's not going as planned.

In the end the game is likely to be great and starting over will seem like a genius move but these large gaps with big titles seem all too common and I doubt its ever going to change. If Nintendo ever gets back in the hardware race then it's all moot.

Keep your system war posts out of the thread, please.

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Same old Nintendo. They just can't keep pace with development. Generation after generation they acknowledge they need to come out with more content at a faster pace because they lack the big third party titles and most buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games. Yet delays keep happening.

It's great they are being transparent on the surface but I can't help wonder if they knew all along they had to tease this game earlier on purpose. The timing is also questionable waiting until after the busy holiday sales to tell everyone it's not going as planned.

In the end the game is likely to be great and starting over will seem like a genius move but these large gaps with big titles seem all too common and I doubt its ever going to change. If Nintendo ever gets back in the hardware race then it's all moot.
What the fuck is this system wars nonsense?

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-releases-video-about-metroid-prime-4-development-currently-below-expectations-will-redo-from-scratch-with-retro-studios.95653/post-17222201

User Banned (permanent): Long and consistent history of system warring; numerous accumulated infractions
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Remember when people said Nintendo won E3 because they announced this? -_-
please keep console wars aside. or do you want a list of the plethora of vaporwave the other Big 2 have shown at E3???

i love ban bot site so much

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #55639 on:** January 28, 2019, 07:02:25 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 04:04:45 AM

Quote from: clothedmacuser on January 27, 2019, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Jenkem on January 27, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-incels-are-a-real-and-present-threat-for-canadians.96089/

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Short Term: Actually treat them like any other terrorist group with consistent monitoring, raids, and information campaigns instead of feeling sorry for them because "that could've been me" or calling them lone wolves.

Arrest every bitter virgin as a terrorist. Great idea, mod!

For people who pretend to be media savvy they sure fall for every new hysteria and invention of the media.
This is actually even a better post in context of the thread talking about how INCELS are cut off from society, paranoid, spiteful against others, driven to hate for no reason, fester in their sewer groups on the 4chan, etc.

So the practical suggestion from Nepenthe is to make sure that just because they're paranoid doesn't mean there aren't people out to get them.

FBI: "Open up, FBI!"

Me: "Uhhhh, hold up, don't come in. I've got a girl in here!"

FBI: "Bullshit, we're coming in." *kicks down door*

Me: *dies in a rain of gunfire*

benjipwns · « **Reply #55640 on:** January 28, 2019, 07:13:38 AM »

Great Rumbler: *dies in same rain of gunfire*

Don Rumata · « **Reply #55641 on:** January 28, 2019, 07:53:53 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 02:50:32 AM

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-incels-are-a-real-and-present-threat-for-canadians.96089/post-17305775
Are Incels a problem in Japan? At least they don’t have access to guns.

But they have access to Katanas, which by any account, are way deadlier.

Uncle · « **Reply #55642 on:** January 28, 2019, 08:02:30 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 06:54:50 AM

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/at-the-thought-of-supporting-a-70-marginal-tax-rate-the-global-elite-at-davos-burst-into-laughter.95314/post-17166420
User warned: Historical reference implying violence

Time to invest in guillotines. The world is gonna need a lot of em.
HISTORICAL REFERENCE IMPLYING VIOLENCE

Can they embed memes in mod notes

User warned:

Straight Edge · « **Reply #55643 on:** January 28, 2019, 08:03:14 AM »

How many proto-incels died during the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

bork · « **Reply #55644 on:** January 28, 2019, 08:05:00 AM »

Was this posted already?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/straight-men-of-era-what-are-your-thoughts-on-rimming-receiving-end.95963/

This from the guy who doesn't like to wipe his ass and shower.

FStop7 · « **Reply #55645 on:** January 28, 2019, 08:59:35 AM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-of-devs-think-valve-justifies-its-30-steam-cut-according-to-gdc-poll.96047/

Corporate bootlicking squad: assemble!

And they wonder why devs avoid Ree like the plague

benjipwns · « **Reply #55646 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:08:50 AM »

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/6-of-devs-think-valve-justifies-its-30-steam-cut-according-to-gdc-poll.96047/post-17317498

Says the guy who entered a frenzy state and straight up LIED about being “insulted in PM” to give me a ban when I made a cheap joke about Nintendo.

Just for context.

agrajag · « **Reply #55647 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:28:13 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 04:44:27 AM

the "chad meme" is kinda funny to me because all the real Chads I've ever known were all gross losers and not in the fun The Bire way, but that guy, that guy right there is a total Chad

Also there is an African country called Chad so they are submitting to the supremacy of the BBC.

benjipwns · « **Reply #55648 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:35:46 AM »

why would you make a historical reference involving colonialism in a positive way? what's your real agenda here? are you trying to push incelism on us?

agrajag · « **Reply #55649 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:37:26 AM »

only on Canadians

benjipwns · « **Reply #55650 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:40:19 AM »

good man, we'll end their threat to humanity soon enough

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #55651 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:48:45 AM »

Quote from: VomKriege on January 28, 2019, 06:06:44 AM

https://www.resetera.com/threads/who-to-reach-to-here-about-subpar-moderating-incidents.96157/

everyone should just pm excelsheet with their grievances.

agrajag · « **Reply #55652 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:52:48 AM »

That's jokes!

benjipwns · « **Reply #55653 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:03:50 AM »

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on January 28, 2019, 09:48:45 AM

everyone should just pm excelsheet with their grievances.

User Warned: Inappropriate Commentary About How The Mods Actually Operate

HaughtyFrank · « **Reply #55654 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:05:22 AM »

Did RE miss this story?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/24/man-investigated-police-retweeting-transgender-limerick/

I'd wager a thread about this would be a new contender for most actioned posts

benjipwns · « **Reply #55655 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:06:37 AM »

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benjipwns · « **Reply #55656 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:07:25 AM »

Quote from: HaughtyFrank on January 28, 2019, 10:05:22 AM

Did RE miss this story?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/24/man-investigated-police-retweeting-transgender-limerick/

I'd wager a thread about this would be a new contender for most auctioned posts

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A docker from Humberside has been investigated by police

A doxxer?!?

Uncle · « **Reply #55657 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:09:36 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on January 28, 2019, 09:28:13 AM

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 04:44:27 AM
the "chad meme" is kinda funny to me because all the real Chads I've ever known were all gross losers and not in the fun The Bire way, but that guy, that guy right there is a total Chad

Also there is an African country called Chad so they are submitting to the supremacy of the BBC.

marrec · « **Reply #55658 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:09:39 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 09:40:19 AM

good man, we'll end their threat to humanity soon enough

Incels or canadians?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #55659 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:10:03 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 10:07:25 AM

Quote from: HaughtyFrank on January 28, 2019, 10:05:22 AM
Did RE miss this story?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/24/man-investigated-police-retweeting-transgender-limerick/

I'd wager a thread about this would be a new contender for most auctioned posts
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A docker from Humberside has been investigated by police
A doxxer?!?

The heat's finally catching up to you, benji!

Uncle · « **Reply #55660 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:13:10 AM »

Quote from: HaughtyFrank on January 28, 2019, 10:05:22 AM

Did RE miss this story?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/24/man-investigated-police-retweeting-transgender-limerick/

I'd wager a thread about this would be a new contender for most actioned posts

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It included the lines: "Your breasts are made of silicone, your vagina goes nowhere."

I cannot picture how this could be made to rhyme with anything clever and also have some semblance of the meter/cadence of a limerick

benjipwns · « **Reply #55661 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:15:23 AM »

Quote from: marrec on January 28, 2019, 10:09:39 AM

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 09:40:19 AM
good man, we'll end their threat to humanity soon enough

Incels or canadians?

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45505.msg2562539#msg2562539

agrajag · « **Reply #55662 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:16:25 AM »

Ey Benji what do you say us couple of Canucks go tobaganding to Timmies for a double double and a box of Timbits then swing by my place this afternoon for the Mapleleafs game and pop open a box of two-four, eh?

benjipwns · « **Reply #55663 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:16:49 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 28, 2019, 10:10:03 AM

The heat's finally catching up to you, benji!

I AM THE NATURAL LIVING CAT

benjipwns · « **Reply #55664 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:18:05 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on January 28, 2019, 10:16:25 AM

Ey Benji what do you say us couple of Canucks go tobaganding to Timmies for a double double and a box of Timbits then swing by my place this afternoon for the Mapleleafs game and pop open a box of two-four, eh?

wow it's uncanny, i actually thought you were one of them for a second

Jansen · « **Reply #55665 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:18:15 AM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-jimquisition-kingdom-hearts-is-stupid-gibberish.96191

Oh they getting mad af.

Don Rumata · « **Reply #55666 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:19:41 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 10:06:37 AM

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION

Please list all of your alt accounts, off-site accounts and personal address and information when contacting mod captains. This is to ensure that your information is kept safe with the admins.

With the great idea of the "Mod Captain" rank, why not rebrand "Admins" as "Admirals"?

agrajag · « **Reply #55667 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:21:12 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on January 28, 2019, 10:18:05 AM

Quote from: agrajag on January 28, 2019, 10:16:25 AM
Ey Benji what do you say us couple of Canucks go tobaganding to Timmies for a double double and a box of Timbits then swing by my place this afternoon for the Mapleleafs game and pop open a box of two-four, eh?
wow it's uncanny, i actually thought you were one of them for a second

I am trying to blend in

james · « **Reply #55668 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:31:46 AM »

The brightest minds in Poliera have it all figured out!

They now have a surefire way to determine if someone is a member of the right and should be deleted from your life.

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I've made a habit the last few years of dropping leftist dog whistles in my conversations to weed these people out. Just casually saying things like "The new season of Handmaid's Tale is so good" will work miracles. Doesn't matter if you've even seen it.

Shit, I thought the show was too slow and drawn out compared to the book, so I guess I'm conservative.

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I think there are a lot of ways to figure out someone's political leanings without explicitly discussing politics. Whether or not they like Colbert would be an obvious one.

Shit, I think the only good late night show has been Craig Ferguson so I guess I'm conservative.

Stay safe.

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I'd even say certain musical tastes can clue you in. To give an obvious example: do they think Macklemore is the only rapper with something to say? Possibly Republican. Do they think Kendrick is a genius? Probably democratic. Do they think Kendrick winning a Pulitzer is ridiculous and unironically use the phrase rap is crap? Definitely Republican.

Welp, I'm a nazi.

These hot tips start here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2019-ot2-presidentpelosi.95742/page-32#post-17311788

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #55669 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:34:33 AM »

Quote from: Jansen on January 28, 2019, 10:18:15 AM

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-jimquisition-kingdom-hearts-is-stupid-gibberish.96191

Oh they getting mad af.

As soon as I saw that video title pop up in my feed, I was like

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #55670 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:35:02 AM »

I thought Handmaid's Tale would be counted as conservative media.

benjipwns · « **Reply #55671 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:36:46 AM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-removing-online-for-starblood-arena-vr-game-will-be-unplayable-after-july-2019-2-years-3-months-after-launch.96151/

this one is pretty good, lots of fighting from the start, nobody has mentioned ever playing the game maybe one dude did

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #55672 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:38:53 AM »

Playing a game on PSVR other than our lord and savior Astro Bot: GOTY Edition (i.e. the only edition of the game that exists).

benjipwns · « **Reply #55673 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:42:18 AM »

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Uh... because selling people a product and then deciding two years later to render in non-functional with no refund or prior disclaimer is an incredibly dubious business practice. I can't believe this needs to be explained to some people.

That's even aside from the fact they charge some rip off fee for online every month and yet can't keep the servers up.

No matter how few people bought this they are entitled to a working product or a refund. And, no, consumers have no responsibility or duty to keep a game alive. What a ridiculous suggestion.

Hopefully the EU will look at this type of thing at some point soon.

yes, thank you, can't wait to get back online with Alien Front: Online, also I think there's some DLCs I'd like to grab for the original Xbox

benjipwns · « **Reply #55674 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:44:10 AM »

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I've made a habit the last few years of dropping leftist dog whistles in my conversations to weed these people out. Just casually saying things like "The new season of Handmaid's Tale is so good" will work miracles. Doesn't matter if you've even seen it.

how would this work exactly? "okay, neat, i've never seen it"

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I think there are a lot of ways to figure out someone's political leanings without explicitly discussing politics. Whether or not they like Colbert would be an obvious one.

which Colbert, the truth teller from Comedy Central or the one who's been trapped by the lieberal media on CBS?

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'd even say certain musical tastes can clue you in. To give an obvious example: do they think Macklemore is the only rapper with something to say? Possibly Republican. Do they think Kendrick is a genius? Probably democratic. Do they think Kendrick winning a Pulitzer is ridiculous and unironically use the phrase rap is crap? Definitely Republican.

what if i don't care about your interests?

marrec · « **Reply #55675 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:46:51 AM »

"Doesn't matter if you've ever seen it"

I need a hotline to that "Alt-Right Playbook" dude cause he constantly claims that this kind of shit doesn't happen on the left

PogiJones · « **Reply #55676 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:47:20 AM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on January 27, 2019, 11:34:15 PM

Pogi-BB: Remember when I said I know a cop:

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/not-your-sheepdog/

That's a yikes for me, wolf.

FTFY.

Yeah, that one sounds like a psycho. Don't know what that has to do with you knowing a cop, though.

benjipwns · « **Reply #55677 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:48:30 AM »

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60 Minutes continues to toe the line between news magazine and Public Relations arm.

wow if true

benjipwns · « **Reply #55678 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:49:20 AM »

lmao the explanation as to how the handmaidens tale one would work is even worse than him not explaining it:

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The show is about a dystopian (emphasis on dystopian) theocratic society where much of the population has become infertile so the remaining fertile women are essentially, by order of law, made into concubines and committed to indentured sexual servitude.

Most left-leaning people like it (it's a cautionary tale that is super forthright about being a cautionary tale and not a fantasy. It's about the importance of bodily autonomy and all that). Right-leaning people are, for obvious reasons, apprehensive toward it. If someone says they've never heard of it then you need a follow up statement at some point. Hard to say exactly what that follow up would be without knowing what your social circle is like and the kind of pop culture references they might be aware of, but I think there are a lot of ways to figure out someone's political leanings without explicitly discussing politics. Whether or not they like Colbert would be an obvious one.

benjipwns · « **Reply #55679 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:52:29 AM »

Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2019-ot2-presidentpelosi.95742/post-17313356

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Could I get some context on the RFK quote? Had no idea that was a borrowed phrase.
RFK ran to primary Johnson in 1968.

NOBODY CORRECTS THIS

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