Author Topic: World Cup 2018 is over, now Premier League is my best friend (Read 137844 times)

VomKriege · « **Reply #180 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:48:22 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on June 21, 2018, 03:41:22 AM

Quote from: VomKriege on June 21, 2018, 03:12:04 AM
Also there's already a neutral zone, offside rule is only in effect past the central line.

Well yeah, that's an argument for why pushing it out for say 10 yards in each direction wouldn't automatically destroy the game.

But why ? I don't recall offsides at midfield being a problem for the game in general ?

Mandark · « **Reply #181 on:** June 21, 2018, 04:02:30 AM »

Just spitballing, since Dandy brought it up, on whether the game could be tilted to create a bit more action without devolving into cherry-picking.

Obviously the world's most popular sport doesn't need to change anything, but speculating always brings out the fun police.

VomKriege · « **Reply #182 on:** June 21, 2018, 06:32:50 AM »

Offside rule is as old as the first "standardized" codified rules of the game in the second part of the XIXth century.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #183 on:** June 21, 2018, 08:44:19 AM »

That arm contact lol

Come on Denmark. These koala fuckers ain't nothing.

Assimilate · « **Reply #184 on:** June 21, 2018, 09:57:36 AM »

Quote from: Dufus on June 21, 2018, 08:59:19 AM

VAR drama is fucking amazing btw

omg

especially the gesture of a square the ref makes and then makes a decision

And here people were saying VAR would hurt the drama

Quote from: Mandark on June 21, 2018, 04:02:30 AM

Just spitballing, since Dandy brought it up, on whether the game could be tilted to create a bit more action without devolving into cherry-picking.

Obviously the world's most popular sport doesn't need to change anything, but speculating always brings out the fun police.

You're not completely wrong. Offsides has been annoying but because of the human factor of making that call which is pretty hard to make accurately.

Now with the VAR this shouldn't be much of a problem. However, in saying that i'd still like to see 1 tiny change. As we saw in that Iran game, that guy was barely offsides, i feel like it should be a clear separation between him and the last defender. Like, daylight separation where you can see space between the two bodies. A lot of times they'll call offsides by a fucking hair.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #185 on:** June 21, 2018, 12:23:32 PM »

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BisMarckie · « **Reply #186 on:** June 21, 2018, 02:45:49 PM »

Argentina is so weird. They have Dybala on the bench and left players like Icardi at home, yet they insinst on having guys start that nobody has ever heard of

Assimilate · « **Reply #187 on:** June 21, 2018, 02:49:53 PM »

Quote from: KennyLoggins on June 21, 2018, 02:45:49 PM

Argentina is so weird. They have Dybala on the bench and left players like Icardi at home, yet they insinst on having guys start that nobody has ever heard of

Argentina has always had problems with personalities clashing.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #188 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:11:27 PM »

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #189 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:11:54 PM »

Hahahahaha, eat shit.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #190 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:12:24 PM »

Argentina

Good thing scrubs like Meza, Acuna and Salvio are playing though.

Assimilate · « **Reply #191 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:26:18 PM »

Feels like the Argentinian squad really wants to make Messi breakdown in tears in the middle of the game.

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #192 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:38:12 PM »

So good.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #193 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:38:47 PM »

ha ha

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #194 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:45:37 PM »

I like how shameful they're playing now. Sore losers.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #195 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:47:26 PM »

the reason why nobody likes argentinians in central and south america is on full display

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #196 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:48:46 PM »

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TEEEPO · « **Reply #197 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:49:52 PM »

i'm so into this

Assimilate · « **Reply #198 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:52:16 PM »

Quote from: TEEEPO on June 21, 2018, 03:47:26 PM

the reason why nobody likes argentinians in central and south america is on full display

This is true. The women are beautiful but the dudes are mostly like Maradona (A gold watch on each wrist)

I like Messi though, i feel for him. He has to be thinking to himself what could have been if he chose to play for Spain.

edit: Damn, Modric next to some of his teammates.. Modric is fucking tiny.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #199 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:53:21 PM »

i adore messi and really wish he had retired two years ago. no way he's winning with that squad, talent be damned. too many maradona's on that squad

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #200 on:** June 21, 2018, 04:20:47 PM »

Holy hell Argentina. WTF?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #201 on:** June 21, 2018, 04:22:43 PM »

Otamendi should have gotten 5 red carda what a twat only thing that would have made the rakitic goal better is if he celebrated in front of otamendi

Assimilate · « **Reply #202 on:** June 21, 2018, 04:30:00 PM »

I think this may settle the debate on Ronaldo vs Messi.

Without a supportive squad he literally grew up playing with Messi can be boxed out to nothing. Ronaldo, still does Ronaldo stuff even if he has nobody supporting him.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #203 on:** June 21, 2018, 04:31:48 PM »

messi carried his squad to the finals though

BisMarckie · « **Reply #204 on:** June 21, 2018, 04:33:22 PM »

The Messi vs. Ronaldo debate is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

Football just doesn't work this way.

Assimilate · « **Reply #205 on:** June 21, 2018, 04:36:40 PM »

Quote from: TEEEPO on June 21, 2018, 04:31:48 PM

messi carried his squad to the finals though

Eh, Ronaldo took his team to the Eurocup and won it. Not to mention the World Cup semifinals run in 2006 with a team far inferior than Messi ever had at Argentina.

Quote from: KennyLoggins on June 21, 2018, 04:33:22 PM

Football just doesn't work this way.

How doesn't it work this way? Besides maybe Basketball there is no other sport out there that player talent matters so much.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #206 on:** June 21, 2018, 04:48:23 PM »

Quote from: KennyLoggins on June 21, 2018, 04:33:22 PM

The Messi vs. Ronaldo debate is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

Football just doesn't work this way.

the memes though

BisMarckie · « **Reply #207 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:01:38 PM »

Quote from: Assimilate on June 21, 2018, 04:36:40 PM

How doesn't it work this way? Besides maybe Basketball there is no other sport out there that player talent matters so much.

There were world-class players that never won anything or didn't even qualify for any major international tournaments because their teams sucked.
Andriy Shevchenko and George Weah were some of the best strikers of their respective times and never did anything on the international stage.

Messi didn't lose this game, Croatia had total control over the midfield area. Rakitic and Modric were dominant, nothing Messi or Ronaldo or anyone are able to overcome.

edit: People are giving Lewandowski shit for not showing up in big international competitions but look who he's playing with. Milik was really good but then had two major knee injuries and Zielinski is really talented. The rest of the Polish team are has-beens or never-will-bes.

Assimilate · « **Reply #208 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:08:46 PM »

Quote from: KennyLoggins on June 21, 2018, 05:01:38 PM

There were world-class players that never won anything or didn't even qualify for any major international tournaments because their teams sucked.
Andriy Shevchenko and George Weah were some of the best strikers of their respective times and never did anything on the international stage.

Messi didn't lose this game, Croatia had total control over the midfield area. Rakitic and Modric were dominant, nothing Messi or Ronaldo or anyone are able to overcome.

But he's also not leading his team at all. He's fucking broken, and i get it, the coach is a joke, the team is in shambles, but he just crawled into a hole.....

Ronaldo is up there pumping his guys up. That's leadership. You have to weigh a persons overall greatness on every aspect of the game and for me right now Ronaldo has that edge.

The guys you mentioned were great players, Hell, i think Ronaldinho is the best skilled player ever, but he simply stopped giving a fuck and so he can't be included in that discussion of GOAT.

VomKriege · « **Reply #209 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:16:38 PM »

I'd say talent is rather diluted in football, with 11 players all coordinating, plus it's a sport and often a competition format with slim margins between a win or a defeat. I don't doubt Maradona or Pelé were as good as the hype but it's probably not inconsequential they happened to play for historically strong nations either.

VomKriege · « **Reply #210 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:18:53 PM »

That said I prefer CRonaldo, irrespective of "who is better",despite or perhaps because he is a douche.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #211 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:19:43 PM »

The GOAT discussion is silly anyway.
There were so many defensive players that are somehow never mentioned. Cafu and Javier Zanetti "invented" the modern full back, Paolo Maldini was an all-time great and yet, they never get any recognition because people look at goals scored and not individual skill.

Without players like Modric,Ramos and Kroos, Real Madrid would lose at the first knockout stage of the Champions League every year. Same for Messi without Xavi(now Rakitic), Iniesta and Busquets The whole "discussion" is completely pointless.

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #212 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:41:18 PM »

Like the announcer said last world cup, "Argentina has Messi, Portugal has Ronaldo, but Germany has a team"

Of course Germany doesn't have a team this world cup though

VomKriege · « **Reply #213 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:52:25 PM »

I don't think it's entirely pointless, it's hard to deny that some players dictate play more than others (the mythical 10 then, now extended to 8 and 9,5) or shine in clutch but yes of course they're only so good as the band backing them and also very much yes that some positions get overlooked too frequently (goalkeeping may arguably be a position where individual talent may affect a result in its own).

Portugal won a major title and seem to be in a good dynamic now but CRonaldo long couldn't drag the team to himself at the top too until recently, despite Portugal not being the weakest of selections (though certainly to be fair not as drowning in talent as the AFA), while Argentina got into finals at the world and continental level.

They're both total freaks and certainly the most dominant players since the original Ronaldo. It's a bit of a blessing to have two at the same time.

Assimilate · « **Reply #214 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:53:14 PM »

Quote from: I'm a Puppy! on June 21, 2018, 05:41:18 PM

Like the announcer said last world cup, "Argentina has Messi, Portugal has Ronaldo, but Germany has a team"

A team filled to the brim with talent, and not to mention the leading goal scorer in world cup history

But you're right, they worked like a team and won. No one is debating that a well organized team can't overcome one or two superstars.

curly · « **Reply #215 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:55:26 PM »

If you support Ronaldo or Real Madrid you're basically a fascist

Assimilate · « **Reply #216 on:** June 21, 2018, 06:00:49 PM »

Quote from: KennyLoggins on June 21, 2018, 05:19:43 PM

The GOAT discussion is silly anyway.
There were so many defensive players that are somehow never mentioned. Cafu and Javier Zanetti "invented" the modern full back, Paolo Maldini was an all-time great and yet, they never get any recognition because people look at goals scored and not individual skill.

Without players like Modric,Ramos and Kroos, Real Madrid would lose at the first knockout stage of the Champions League every year. Same for Messi without Xavi(now Rakitic), Iniesta and Busquets The whole "discussion" is completely pointless.

But that can be said for any sport. Defense is usually less about skill and more about tactical knowhow, and cohesion. That's why those guys are left out of the GOAT discussions in all sports. The only times they are included is when they are also insane goal scorers with insane offensive skills, as like a Bobby Orr.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #217 on:** June 21, 2018, 06:11:26 PM »

Tackles and Headers are definitely skills. If you want to be so reductive and only include on-ball skills then Denilson is probably one of the best players I've ever seen, but as a player he sucked.
Football is too complex of a game and not comparable to Basketball or Hockey at all. Defenders are not even involved in the attack 99% of the time while all players in Hockey or Basketball take some shots by default.

Assimilate · « **Reply #218 on:** June 21, 2018, 07:55:55 PM »

Quote from: Exodust on June 21, 2018, 07:28:59 PM

Quote from: VomKriege on June 21, 2018, 05:52:25 PM
They're both total freaks and certainly the most dominant players since the original Ronaldo. It's a bit of a blessing to have two at the same time.

I both agree and would like to mention that Zidane is on that level, although R9 is my personal fav. And the fact that R9's career was plagued with injuries and by the time he was 30, dude got fat. I doubt we'll ever see a striker as good as R9 in his prime anytime soon. Although Cristiano seemingly is a much better striker lately than he was before (I know he was more of a winger most of his career).

That said, my soccer shitposting ammunition just got a few good ones:

"You know who didn't miss his penalty in the first game? Modric "

"You know who made it out of group stages even when he was flabby and sick? OG Ronaldo "

Right on Brows. I still think the original Ronaldo is the best pure striker there ever was.

Messi and R7 are different because they're part of this new age of superstar athlete where they don't party and blow cocaine and drink all night long like most other guys in their primes from back in the day.......

so much so that the original Ronaldo conceived a kid during the 2002 world cup with a random Japanese/Brazilian woman! And people want to criticize Burger King

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headwalk · « **Reply #219 on:** June 21, 2018, 08:35:10 PM »

can't blame the argies when their best player was injured.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #220 on:** June 22, 2018, 01:35:56 AM »

Could Messi do this in the 90th minute to put Argentina through to the semis?

TEEEPO · « **Reply #221 on:** June 22, 2018, 09:39:07 AM »

VAR

Neymar

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #222 on:** June 22, 2018, 09:54:49 AM »

Fucking neymar

Assimilate · « **Reply #223 on:** June 22, 2018, 10:07:51 AM »

Ok, so that definitely should have been a call but i'm happy that fifi and the governing bodies are cracking down on the bullshit flops and over-exaggeration. If Neymar didn't throw his arms up he would have gotten the call. This ref is legit.

Neymar needs to stop this baby shit.

Assimilate · « **Reply #224 on:** June 22, 2018, 10:21:44 AM »

Quote from: Exodust on June 22, 2018, 10:12:24 AM

Neymar is diving fuckboi bitch and the sooner he's out of the brazilian squad the better.

Glad for the win, Coutinho continues to be the best player on the squad.

He does get fouled though. The problem is he never gained fucking weight. He never put on muscle like everyone thought he would after his teens. He can get pushed around too easily.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #225 on:** June 22, 2018, 10:58:40 AM »

Go Iceland!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #226 on:** June 22, 2018, 12:04:20 PM »

So many opportunities

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #227 on:** June 22, 2018, 12:08:27 PM »

FUCCCCCK

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #228 on:** June 22, 2018, 12:39:36 PM »

Too bad for iceland but Nigerias is cool amd their kit is lit

BisMarckie · « **Reply #229 on:** June 22, 2018, 12:41:45 PM »

Argentina is a bad matchup for Nigeria. Nigeria doesn't have the capability to boss around their midfield and their defense is suspect at best.
Argentina will get through because I don't see Iceland beating Croatia's B-team.

LOL what a penalty.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #230 on:** June 22, 2018, 12:43:06 PM »

WTF was that

Assimilate · « **Reply #231 on:** June 22, 2018, 01:00:44 PM »

Quote from: KennyLoggins on June 22, 2018, 12:41:45 PM

Argentina is a bad matchup for Nigeria. Nigeria doesn't have the capability to boss around their midfield and their defense is suspect at best.
Argentina will get through because I don't see Iceland beating Croatia's B-team.

LOL what a penalty.

Yup. The Super Eagles just saved fucking Argentina. Unbelievable.

agrajag · « **Reply #232 on:** June 22, 2018, 01:07:21 PM »

Argentina should be thanking Nigeria on their hands and knees like dogs

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #233 on:** June 22, 2018, 02:03:10 PM »

agrajag · « **Reply #234 on:** June 22, 2018, 02:27:39 PM »

Iceland is a pretty awesome country tbh. They are responsible for both the Prose and the Poetic Eddas and is a tiny ass country that's home to some of the strongest mofos in the world.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #235 on:** June 22, 2018, 04:06:27 PM »

Yes daddy

Assimilate · « **Reply #236 on:** June 22, 2018, 04:08:28 PM »

There's always drama at the world cup. That's why it is so great. You think everything will go a predictable way and then boom.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #237 on:** June 22, 2018, 05:03:15 PM »

Xhaka my boy

Shaqiri too

Always score bangers

Shaqiris.goal.against Poland two years ago..

Assimilate · « **Reply #238 on:** June 22, 2018, 05:37:13 PM »

People piling on Neymar crying on his knees.

This kid needs to stop being such a pussy, he thinks he's on TheBore or something

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #239 on:** June 22, 2018, 06:10:33 PM »

Quote from: Assimilate on June 22, 2018, 05:37:13 PM

People piling on Neymar crying on his knees.

This kid needs to stop being such a pussy, he thinks he's on TheBore or something

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Author Topic: World Cup 2018 is over, now Premier League is my best friend (Read 137844 times)