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I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« on: January 28, 2007, 11:35:34 PM »
So, it was pretty much one of the most worthless theatergoing experiences I've had. I can maybe remember two or three slight details from the film, and that's about it. It wasn't so much a failure as a complete disaster, yet I want to watch it again so I can feel comfortable with my assertion that the film was nothing more than three incoherent, terrible hours. When I left the theater, I felt as though I'd fallen asleep during the movie more than a few times, but I think that feeling was due to the trance the nonsense on screen induced me to. I'm pretty sure I never slept.

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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 11:37:44 PM »
For the record, how much of a Lynch fan are you?  I still need to see this.  Even if it's a disaster.
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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 11:38:30 PM »
I love Eraserhead, Wild at Heart, Mulholland Drive, Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks. Equally so, even.

It seems lots of fans love Inland Empire, but either I wasn't looking for quality in the right places or the quality isn't there. It's so hard to qualify this kind of film's success.
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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2007, 11:40:20 PM »
You have to understand, even the negative comments make the movie sound interesting to me.  I want to see an interesting trainwreck.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2007, 11:42:11 PM »
I have encouraged my friends who haven't seen it to see it as soon as possible. Though I hated it, I'd like to see how others feel. The tedium and boredom I felt while watching it were like nothing I'd felt before.

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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2007, 11:43:12 PM »
You see, I think Lost Highway is a complete mess and a Bad Movie, but it was still intriguing to watch.  You're saying that it's tedius and boring?  I knew Lynch could make bad movies, but boring?
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2007, 11:45:19 PM »
TVC and I have a movie date to go see IE one of these days...
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2007, 11:46:09 PM »
I felt it was three hours of indistinguishable dialogue and exposition. There were maybe two or three moments that gave the narrative a little kick, but those moments were lost in an incoherent haze.

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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2007, 11:46:49 PM »
Yeah, distantmantra, we still have to do that.
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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2007, 11:48:11 PM »
Doesn't David Lynch wear a tinfoil hat nowadays?

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2007, 11:48:37 PM »
Yeah, distantmantra, we still have to do that.

My brother and sister-in-law are staying with us until Wednesday, maybe next weekend?
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2007, 11:49:13 PM »
I've heard he does. That doesn't have much to do with how I feel about him or his movies. 

I actually walked by him on the street the other night. I guess he'd just come from the Inland Empire screening and Q&A and wanted a drink at a local bar.

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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2007, 12:03:06 AM »
Yeah, distantmantra, we still have to do that.

My brother and sister-in-law are staying with us until Wednesday, maybe next weekend?

Sounds good.

And yeah, Lynch is a nutter.  He is into transcendental meditation and he is REALLY into it.  He's also David Lynch and legitimately crazy.  He posts Q&A stuff on his website where he answers questions from his fans, and there's no way he is faking what he is doing.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2007, 12:05:09 AM »
He just released a book on transcendental meditation and its effectiveness in helping his creativity. I'm probably going to buy it this week.

Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2007, 12:06:25 AM »
He just released a book on transcendental meditation and its effectiveness in helping his creativity. I'm probably going to buy it this week.

While Lynch was in town for the Seattle premiere of Inland Empire, he gave a talk on transcendtal meditation at Town Hall.
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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2007, 12:06:38 AM »
He just released a book on transcendental meditation and its effectiveness in helping his creativity. I'm probably going to buy it this week.

Even after witnessing what it did to him with Inland Empire?
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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2007, 12:06:52 AM »
When is Ronnie Rocket ever going to be made?
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2007, 12:08:40 AM »
He just released a book on transcendental meditation and its effectiveness in helping his creativity. I'm probably going to buy it this week.

Even after witnessing what it did to him with Inland Empire?
If you really like Rabbits, you might love the movie. That "show" plays a pretty big role in the movie.

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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2007, 12:10:00 AM »
He just released a book on transcendental meditation and its effectiveness in helping his creativity. I'm probably going to buy it this week.

Even after witnessing what it did to him with Inland Empire?
If you really like Rabbits, you might love the movie. That "show" plays a pretty big role in the movie.

Excellent. DO you know what the name of his book was, btw?
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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2007, 12:10:41 AM »
Catching the Big Fish.

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Re: I saw Inland Empire yesterday.
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2007, 11:33:19 AM »
I saw the film upon it's release with a Q&A with Justin after the film, prompting me to write this to a friend who had to leave early:

This is, credibly, the least conjuctive David Lynch film ever released. In the post-film Q&A, Justin revealed that while David often gave them character motivations and a general sense of direction, there appeared to be no narrative choreography (Oh my god. I haven't like "slept" in 3 days and it's murdering my spelling). The film was also shot over the course of 2 1/2-3 years and on DV to boot. Those 3 factors seem to add up to the common critical reaction that, yes, this is a David Lynch film, but that's not an excuse for pure opacity. A number of critics have also remarked that the film is deeply lexiconical; That is, there are numerous elements from other Lynch films in Inland Empire. The rabbits come from a series of web-only short films he shot a few years ago.

All of this is to say that I thing the traditional "treasure hunt" for meaning post-Lynch is, more or less, a Sisphyean task this time out. David Lynch may have made the first David Lynch film just for David Lynch. It's no small wonder that no studio would touch the film. That said, there are a few cohesive elements:

Nikki essentially departs into 2 characters: Nikki the actress and Nikki, the Southern belle-cum-trailer trash wanderer. I can't act like there's a disjunct between the fact that the Nikki of the latter half of the film happens to be as Southern as the character Nikki the actress was playing. That's not to say the film character is the same as the character we see in the interrogation room, but there's something to it.

Of importance is Nikki's husband, the opressive Pole whose nationality hearkens to the title of the film. Poland is often noted to be the "inland empire". Many of the scenes that take place in Poland often have Nikki, or a character in Nikki's position, being derided or mocked. In some ways, the inland empire itself must assume the character of Nikki's husband, perhaps? This much says nothing about the whores nor Justin Theroux's dashing Hollywood badboy, although the whores might eventually composite into the Nikki we see in the interrogation room.

It's not unfair, I don't think, to call the film masturbatory and mean it in a good way. Lynch is one of the few directors who can direct a film so boldly without purpose and get away with it. Still, it challanges the position of the viewer. What is it to appreciate something without a context? There's something more intellectually involving here than "Oh, pretty pictures", but it's ultimately a pointless exercise. It straddles a deeply disturbing line between the extremes of intellectual function: Discovery and beating a dead horse, to death, again and again and again. To clarify: It encourages thought by being obtuse and yet offers no recourse nor reward to the thinker. We're left to be embarassed, stranded in our own ocean. You could argue that, hey, it's a Lynch film and you got what you deserved, but for the first time I feel lured out here and abandoned by a director. It's that old frat game where they blindfold a guy and leave him naked in the woods.
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