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ITT we heal from our traumas
« on: September 18, 2018, 03:09:45 PM »
To anyone I may have hurt, offended, or upset in the past year or two, I ask for your forgiveness.

I forgive anyone who may have intentionally or unintentionally done the same to me.

Let’s :tauntaun

How do you deal with healing from trauma? My therapist suggested a lot of good tips to be more positive and learn to love myself. How do you heal without using coping mechanisms like booze or vidya?
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 03:15:11 PM »
Communication, expression of feelings, weeeeeeed

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Re: ITT we heal from our traumas
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 03:21:59 PM »
My two favorite old bore posters hate me, one directly (Shidoshi) due to a misunderstanding that's not worth scratching at, and one indirectly (Oscar) cause he hates us all. I think you're both great though.

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 03:25:56 PM »
I forgive u

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 03:30:29 PM »
Suggestions on how to heal from stuff like going down a big rabbit hole you should have never went down? Or maybe not being so reactionary and emotional and opinionated? Questions for the therapist to be sure.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 03:31:24 PM »
I forgive u

Thanks. Catholicism has turned my brains into Play-Doh.
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Re: ITT we heal from our traumas
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 03:32:37 PM »
Hey, at least playdoh is nontoxic

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Re: ITT we heal from our traumas
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2018, 03:34:21 PM »
still havent sent any of the games you offered 5 years ago, traumatized
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2018, 03:35:16 PM »
Hey, at least playdoh is nontoxic

Really? I remember it tasting salty.
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Re: ITT we heal from our traumas
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2018, 03:37:30 PM »
i forgive demi for being a brutal anti mobile theme, plain old http tyrant

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2018, 03:51:13 PM »
I dont think you can eat play doh

Hope we can live in peace  :-*

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2018, 03:53:53 PM »
I dont think you can eat play doh

Hope we can live in peace  :-*
How can we live in peace when the football season has started?

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Re: ITT we heal from our traumas
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2018, 03:56:39 PM »
Which football
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2018, 04:01:01 PM »
Which football
EPL, I'm kinda salty that I cant troll Liverpool fans yet

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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2018, 04:02:37 PM »
Watched a Man U game the other day and was so salty. They got like two goals in five minutes. Fuck Man U and their crappy Chevy kits!
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2018, 04:30:35 PM »




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Re: ITT we heal from our traumas
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2018, 04:46:55 PM »
Who has Cindi offended on the bore?
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2018, 04:58:35 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2018, 06:01:56 PM »
I'll never heal from the trauma of Bert and Ernie being revealed to be puppets who don't have sexual identities :stahp

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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2018, 06:14:44 PM »
I WILL NEVER FORGET WHEN I REALIZED WRESTLING WAS FAKe :stahp
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2018, 07:35:56 PM »
Toad, Bert and Ernie

Today was something  :doge
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2018, 10:54:24 PM »
I WILL NEVER FORGET WHEN I REALIZED WRESTLING WAS FAKe :stahp

omg the world got so much less cool.

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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2018, 11:20:27 PM »
I didn't know you were Jewish, Cindi.

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2018, 11:49:13 PM »
I didn't know you were Jewish, Cindi.
She's got the guilt complex for it, that's for sure.
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« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2018, 01:42:31 AM »
I heal my traumas by shooting at them with my stockpile of semi-autos.

Xenu bless.
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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2018, 03:15:38 PM »
I didn't know you were Jewish, Cindi.

I'm not. But I like the idea of Yom Kippur. I could never be a Jew because I'm black even though I felt more of a connection to it (and by extension, the Jewish people) than Christianity. :idont
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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2018, 03:48:19 PM »
Nope
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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2018, 03:52:46 PM »
why do you want me to convert
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2018, 03:53:54 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2018, 04:05:50 PM »
Christianity has made me go insane and I think I rushed it into it when I came to believe in God again so :idont
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« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2018, 04:12:58 PM »
yea no kidding

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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2018, 04:15:42 PM »
Religious peples  :badass
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Himu

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« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2018, 04:16:05 PM »
yea no kidding

you're saying that because I didn't become a jew
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2018, 04:20:34 PM »
That's the least of the reasons I think you're crazy. And I say it with as much love as possible. ;)

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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2018, 04:21:51 PM »
Yet. You didn't become a Jew yet. Let's wait until the weekend.

No.

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« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2018, 04:36:19 PM »
So basically, I prayed to God a lot and asked for guidance on what the right church for me was. I felt a pull (brain washing) to Catholicism despite the lgbt stances. "Joe Biden and Stephen Colbert are Catholic which means I can be liberal still and Catholic. I just need to fight for what I believe in."

No.



I kind of believed them when they said "hate the sin, love the sinner." I wouldn't have before, but I had taken a liking to the church itself. So they asked me of life long celibacy. And some people told me to detransition. I fought that for a while but then the more I started hanging around Catholics the more right wing I started to get. And the more right wing I started to get the more I started to see same sex matters as sinful which lead to self hate. I was going to detransition at one point. I wanted to leave but I couldn't because of the brain washing. It took a while but a few events snapped me out of it.

I'm still trying to deprogram from the whole experience. I haven't been to a church in months and the whole Pennsylvania scandal made me feel correct in my choice to leave the church.

My friends have been begging me to go to the Episcopal Church since it's Catholic light, lgbt accepting, open interpretations, and I've visited a nice Episcopal church and everything. But I'm at a point now where I just want to go to therapy rather than take communion.

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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2018, 04:40:21 PM »
But I'm at a point now where I just want to go to therapy rather than take communion.

Makes sense to me.  I never "got" religion and have always thought of it as bullshit.  But I know it can be beneficial for some and that's fine.  I was happy as hell to never have to go to a synagogue again after I got old enough.
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Fun facts: The rabbi at the first synagogue we belonged to when I was a kid went batshit crazy, pulled out a gun, and tried to shoot his wife, but missed and shot up their washing machine instead.  Later on when we moved, the rabbi at this other synagogue, who bar mitvah'd me (and kissed my forehead during that whole thing) was discovered to be a fucking pedophile and had child porn all over his computer.  I don't think he actually did any real time for it and ended up at another synagogue somewhere. :dizzy

Speaking of bar mitvahs, another fun side note here is that I was the first kid who they thought was going to "fail" the training for it, because when I was supposed to be practicing that shit I would go into my room and play Super Mario Kart instead.   :lol  Hated that shit so much.  It drove me nuts when that was over and my parents still expected me to drop everything and go for the high holy holidays.  At this point the only thing I do related to it is go to family dinners for certain holidays.
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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2018, 04:41:49 PM »
Abrahamic religions :nope

New-age hippie religions :ohyeah
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2018, 04:47:27 PM »
But I'm at a point now where I just want to go to therapy rather than take communion.

Makes sense to me.  I never "got" religion and have always thought of it as bullshit.  But I know it can be beneficial for some and that's fine.  I was happy as hell to never have to go to a synagogue again after I got old enough.
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I don't think of it as bullshit. I still fast for religious observance even when I don't do anything religious right now. I very much believe in a God.
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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2018, 04:50:59 PM »
Abrahamic religions :nope

New-age hippie religions :ohyeah

No religions

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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2018, 04:52:07 PM »
But I'm at a point now where I just want to go to therapy rather than take communion.

Makes sense to me.  I never "got" religion and have always thought of it as bullshit.  But I know it can be beneficial for some and that's fine.  I was happy as hell to never have to go to a synagogue again after I got old enough.
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I don't think of it as bullshit. I still fast for religious observance even when I don't do anything religious right now. I very much believe in a God.

I think I'd consider myself to be agnostic in that regard.  But I'm not talking about what you believe in...I'm just referring to having to go to place of worship and sit through all that shit.   :lol  Hated services so much.  Especially as a kid when I was forced to go to Hebrew school...after school on Tuesdays and Thursdays and again on Sundays.  Sucked.  :yuck 
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2018, 04:53:30 PM »

 :ohyeah
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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2018, 04:53:52 PM »
Feeling the need to "believe" in anything :nope

Accepting that life is inherently meaningless :ohyeah
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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2018, 04:56:30 PM »
I feel like now I no longer am binded to the shackles of religion, I can vote Democrat again. So there's that at least. Are there any good books or therapy ideas for people healing from massive cognitive dissonance or traumatic religious experiences?

I like religious services and find them very beautiful. I really like liturgical services. I hated church as a kid but find it beautiful that I can have a place away from the struggles of modern life and find a place I can go to when I'm feeling down and be part of or try to understand something transcend. But the dogma and rules that come with it can be horse shit.
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« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2018, 04:58:31 PM »
You clearly joined an actual cult, Cindi

 Eye mean, given your history with me I don't know if you're joking or not but I have come to the conclusion that Catholicism is a cult, yes. It's why no one is leaving the Church after the scandal despite over 1000's of priests being involved. Catholicism has a very particular way of brain washing.
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« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2018, 05:01:57 PM »
What you described is not normal behavior at a church, even a hardcore Catholic one

It isn't *just* the church. It's also the online community. When you want to learn more about Catholicism, you'll naturally want to seek out Catholics for answers to questions or whatever. That's where the online Catholic community comes in and they're universally toxic. And they have a manner of "grooming" people, especially lgbt people.
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« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2018, 05:05:10 PM »
I feel like now I no longer am binded to the shackles of religion, I can vote Democrat again.

:confused

So there's that at least. Are there any good books or therapy ideas for people healing from massive cognitive dissonance or traumatic religious experiences?

No idea and couldn't say anything on the matter, apart from going to therapy sounds like a really good idea.

I like religious services and find them very beautiful. I really like liturgical services. I hated church as a kid but find it beautiful that I can have a place away from the struggles of modern life and find a place I can go to when I'm feeling down and be part of or try to understand something transcend. But the dogma and rules that come with it can be horse shit.

It's funny...when I think of what you just wrote...I think of going online (gotta avoid the religion and political stuff though, that's part of 'real life') and playing video games and stuff.  Or just being at home, relaxing, and not doing shit. I actually feel pretty positive lately.  I just kind of roll with whatever comes my way keep up the positive vibes. 

Did have something big dropped on me recently though.  Not sure if this is the thread to talk about it or not in.
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« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2018, 05:11:57 PM »
I feel like now I no longer am binded to the shackles of religion, I can vote Democrat again.

:confused

"You can't be Catholic if you are pro-choice."

"Please confess if you voted yes on for voting for legalizing abortion."

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/catholics-who-voted-yes-must-repent-to-be-worthy-of-communion-bishop-36970575.html

;etc.

Essentially they push for voting in a specific manner or guilt you as a sinner not worthy of the Eucharist (the most holy rite and sacrament). Again, brain washing.

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« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2018, 05:21:56 PM »
I coulda sworn you were pro-life..

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« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2018, 05:27:32 PM »
i was pro-choice my entire life until I became Catholic.

Catholicism has adult classes called RCIA. You must go to these classes for "catechesis". It's a year long and it tells you what the church believes. One night one of the teaches barges in and tells us we cannot become catholic unless we are pro-life. Then she goes on a rant about this argument she had on facebook with some lady friend of hers. She then passed out papers comparing abortion to slavery and stuff. From then on there was pressure to conform to a specific thinking. I went in pro-choice and argued with her but tried as I might the more I was more around them the more I started to become more pro-life. This was also around the time Ireland passed the abortion law and being that it was once a Catholic stronghold country it was seen as a loss by Catholics and so they doubled down on ideological piety and issued out ultimatums that you can't be a catholic unless you were pro-life. This was around confirmation too.
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« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2018, 05:35:16 PM »
You know you can just....go to church, right? You don't have to take classes.



Mmmmm...No.

In Catholicism going to RCIA is a requirement for catechesis. You must enroll and you must be confirmed either through baptism, renewal of vows, or in my case since I was a candidate (someone who already had a legitimate baptism) say an oath to the Catholic church.

Taking the eucharist, participating in confession, without having been confirmed as a Catholic are considered grave sins. It's precisely why Catholics do not let protestants partake of the Eucharist.
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« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2018, 05:35:44 PM »
You know you can just....go to church, right? You don't have to take classes.

sounds like some Scientology shit

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« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2018, 05:41:14 PM »
Have you ever considered not joining the most hardcore of whatever thing it is you're into at the time

#thatssohimuro
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« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2018, 05:47:54 PM »
Have you ever considered not joining the most hardcore of whatever thing it is you're into at the time

I don't think this is fair.

I studied Christianity and came to the conclusion that Catholicism, along with Orthodox, is the "original" Christianity. A lot of converts are being converted to Catholicism for that very reason right now as we chat. I considered the Episcopal Church and other lgbt friendly churches, but never felt about the same way I did with Catholicism. I also found Catholicism beautiful. Despite its issues I was truly in love. The architecture, the mass. I wanted it to be my church. It just didn't want me.

Further, like I said, brain washing. The church knows that many people who become Catholic now are attracted to authenticity, so they play that up. "We are the true Church." And it's hard to disagree when you read the Bible and how much a lot of the NT points to Catholicism. So they know that if you're going to pursue the church more than likely that's going to be a factor. Well, this is how they get the grips. "What we have is the true communion, the other churches don't have the real thing. We are the real thing. You read about it. Therefore, only ours and the Orthodox's communion is real. Our sacraments are Jesus' gift." This is why it's a big deal when they say they will deny the Eucharist to a Catholic. It's how they use it to control their flock. They first get into your head the idea that they have the best form of Christianity and that their communion is the only legitimate form. So when they deny it they want you to obey. Either deny yourself and receive Christ or you will be denied. So when trouble brews and LGBT people can't take anymore, or people find the Church offensive and unholy because of the sex scandals they might stick around because of the sacraments because this is the "true church" and the church has convinced them that their communion is the only legitimate communion.

Essentially, the church teaches that it is the best means to be holy and that any other option is less holy and that people will go to hell if they aren’t catholic and take the Eucharist. Eventually, the mind conditioning gets its grip on you, anti-lgbt or not.

So I find your response extremely dismissive and asshole-ish even if I find it understandable.
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« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2018, 05:55:43 PM »
I'm not being dismissive or an asshole about this, it's pretty clear you joined about the most extreme Catholic church possible that sure sounds like a full on cult.

 I've known a lot of Catholics, even extremely devout ones, I've dated Catholic girls, my mom and aunt's best friends since childhood are legit ass Catholics, and they would say the same thing. That you keep using the term "brain washing" says it all, and I'm sure it was a traumatic experience that fucked with your worldview, but that's also not a normal church you joined.

Like I told you before, this is the Catholic Church. But what I'm explaining to you is church dogma. What I joined was the normal Catholic Church.

This also depends on where you live. If you're in NYC or Cali, it's your churches that are exceptional. Not the ones I visited.
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« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2018, 06:07:38 PM »
Listen, I just want it to be on record that the allegations that EVILORE RAPED AND MURDERED A WOMAN IN THE SHOWER IN 2017 are false.

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« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2018, 06:12:58 PM »
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