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Am_I_Anonymous

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College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« on: November 07, 2018, 05:46:19 PM »
I'm sure he'll come down to earth but goddamn is anybody going to beat Duke?

Also, fuck Duke.
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2018, 05:49:35 PM »
Was the topic of an ESPN.com roundtable: http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/25189480/debating-nba-potential-duke-star-draft-prospects-zion-williamson-rj-barrett-cam-reddish

They all seemed to prefer Barrett for NBA success.

Thought this was the more interesting part of their discussion at this point:
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Schmitz: KP, is there precedent for three projected top-five picks like this playing together? And will it help or hurt their draft stock?

Pelton: Although there's plenty of precedent for two top-five picks from the same school in the one-and-done era -- that happened as recently as 2014, when Kansas teammates Andrew Wiggins (No. 1) and Joel Embiid (No. 3) both went in the top three -- three such players would be new in recent history.

The closest comps would probably be Kentucky teams with a pair of top-five picks in 2010 (DeMarcus Cousins and John Wall) and 2012 (Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist) who had teammates drafted in the middle of the first round, or the 2005 North Carolina team that had two top-five picks (Marvin Williams and Raymond Felton) plus two more in the lottery (Sean May and Rashad McCants).

Given Kentucky's tendency to team several top draft prospects, I've taken a look at whether some sort of team adjustment would help their projections and found no consistent effect. While Duke's prospects will probably have suppressed usage, as Mike hinted would be an issue for Reddish, that should simultaneously benefit their efficiency. So I think it's only on the defensive glass where diminishing returns really show up when big men play together.

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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2018, 05:51:22 PM »
the one and done system is broke
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2018, 05:51:32 PM »
No. Just no.

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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2018, 05:51:52 PM »
the one and done system is broke

Been broke, how you gonna deny a man his money and then tell him you won't fully educate him? Don't get me started on that shit.
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2018, 05:53:08 PM »
KU looked super beatable last time

duke not so much
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2018, 05:54:19 PM »
It's potentially going to be curtailed, the NBA is allowing HSers back in the Draft and doing it in such a way that 2022 will have both the one-and-dones and HS seniors from that year. DOUBLE DRAFT!

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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2018, 05:56:07 PM »
It's potentially going to be curtailed, the NBA is allowing HSers back in the Draft and doing it in such a way that 2022 will have both the one-and-dones and HS seniors from that year. DOUBLE DRAFT!

No.

How about enter the draft/d league at 18 or go a full 3 years? Shit, even that doesn't make sense. He'll I dunno what do do here, it's a fucking mess.
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2018, 06:23:02 PM »
How about we let them deliberate payment for their labor like the grown ass adults that they are?

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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2018, 06:29:13 PM »
The reserve clause is tradition and you lieberals need to stop attacking American values!

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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2018, 06:29:29 PM »
How about we let them deliberate payment for their labor like the grown ass adults that they are?

You play college ball? If not then you have no idea how it works. K thx.

Let's say your tuition and board is oh....50k nowadays. Now Let's say the University sold 50k of your Jersey at 70 dollars a piece. Oh and then used you in a commercial...oh an needs you to go visit such and such for xx hours...oh and needs you to go on TV and kill yourself slowly while they make 3 million a game...oh and sells 100k tickets to people who like you and wear your Jersey at that game...and you get Jack shit for it.

What's that market bear? Almost a billion a year? Just saying two sides here.
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2018, 06:31:27 PM »
No ones a grown ass man til they’re like 25
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2018, 09:44:04 AM »
He dunks great, but when he can't dunk the shots he puts up awkwardly and falls to the floor will bust an ankle or knee some day.
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2018, 09:45:42 AM »
No ones a grown ass man til they’re like 25

He's 6'8 280 bud.
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2018, 09:59:34 AM »
But is his frontal lobe fully developed? :thinking

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The function of the frontal lobe involves the ability to project future consequences resulting from current actions. Frontal lobe functions also include override and suppression of socially unacceptable response as well as differentiation tasks.
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Re: College BB: Zion Williamson is the best athlete I've ever seen.
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2018, 10:34:42 AM »
But is his frontal lobe fully developed? :thinking

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The function of the frontal lobe involves the ability to project future consequences resulting from current actions. Frontal lobe functions also include override and suppression of socially unacceptable response as well as differentiation tasks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe

Doesn't need to be, basketball isn't a serious thinking man's job like managing a taco bell or anything.
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