Author Topic: Where did it all go wrong? (Read 7392 times)

Joe Molotov · « **on:** July 28, 2019, 03:13:51 PM »

Where did we screw things up so bad that we've ended up where we are now?

Cast your vote and provide reasoning ITT

Personally, I think we never should have come down out of the trees.

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:15:13 PM »

Never should have left the ocean

Conscious thought also a great folly

team filler · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:20:26 PM »

never should have banned etiolate

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #3 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:23:42 PM »

Better to just kill yourself. And stream it for me to laugh at.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #4 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:24:33 PM »

Quote from: HardcoreRetro on July 28, 2019, 03:23:42 PM

Better to just kill yourself. And stream it for me to laugh at.

That's not very nice.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #5 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:26:41 PM »

I shit my self in Kindergarten. Its all been downhill since then.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:28:32 PM »

O if you mean less personal, I think we went wrong when we normalized regicide.

toku · « **Reply #7 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:35:21 PM »

The second man began to think he was separate from nature.

Nintex · « **Reply #8 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:38:15 PM »

Woodrow Wilson
There was a point when Germany and France were both at the end of their wits and ready to come to terms when the US stepped in and prolonged the war.
Which caused such a shift in the geopolitical balance on so many fronts that we're still dealing with the consequences of that decision today.

team filler · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:53:34 PM »

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #10 on:** July 28, 2019, 03:53:44 PM »

Thundercats was just a stalking horse for furrydom.

Oblivion · « **Reply #11 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:00:59 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on July 28, 2019, 03:38:15 PM

Woodrow Wilson
There was a point when Germany and France were both at the end of their wits and ready to come to terms when the US stepped in and prolonged the war.
Which caused such a shift in the geopolitical balance on so many fronts that we're still dealing with the consequences of that decision today.

my vote goes to lincoln, personally

agrajag · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:01:53 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on July 28, 2019, 03:26:41 PM

I shit my self in Kindergarten. Its all been downhill since then.

I peed myself in elementary school. We had an asshole teacher that wouldn't let us go to use the restroom during class.

headwalk · « **Reply #13 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:10:16 PM »

i do occasionally wonder if the entire baseline of modern civil discouse would be approximately twice as nuanced if twitter had doubled its character count from the start.

Nintex · « **Reply #14 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:22:49 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 28, 2019, 03:48:52 PM

Quote from: Nintex on July 28, 2019, 03:38:15 PM
Woodrow Wilson
There was a point when Germany and France were both at the end of their wits and ready to come to terms when the US stepped in and prolonged the war.
Which caused such a shift in the geopolitical balance on so many fronts that we're still dealing with the consequences of that decision today.

Have the opinion that preserving Nazi Germany was a good idea, brehs.

One could argue that one of the consequences of the US joining the European war in WW1 was the creation of Nazi Germany.
The US not joining that war might've prevented Nazi Germany from ever existing. It also would've prevented the UK and France to insist on Russia staying in the war (and Wilson paying the Russians to stay in the war)
thus the October Revolution which brought Lenin to power would've never happened.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #15 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:30:17 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 28, 2019, 03:48:52 PM

Quote from: Nintex on July 28, 2019, 03:38:15 PM
Woodrow Wilson
There was a point when Germany and France were both at the end of their wits and ready to come to terms when the US stepped in and prolonged the war.
Which caused such a shift in the geopolitical balance on so many fronts that we're still dealing with the consequences of that decision today.

Have the opinion that preserving Nazi Germany was a good idea, brehs.

For the first time ever Nintex is kinda right in a sense (are these enough qualifiers?) Without the Treaty of Versailles Hitler probably wouldn‘t have risen to power.

team filler · « **Reply #16 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:34:13 PM »

Kara · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:35:02 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on July 28, 2019, 03:28:32 PM

O if you mean less personal, I think we went wrong when we normalized regicide.

Everyone is playing Regicide in Warhammer 40K stories, that's true, but it's just the game of chess with some mild changes so that they can exercise intellectual property claims on it.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:35:42 PM »

The obvious answer to the thread is when Jeff Gerstmann killed Franz Ferdinand of Austria btw.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:43:13 PM »

Nah, WW1 was ultimately a good thing.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:48:32 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on July 28, 2019, 04:43:13 PM

Nah, WW1 was ultimately a good thing.

Second Polish Republic

Kara · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:48:33 PM »

I don't know about y'all, but I find it hard to believe that the state that did Polenausweisungen or the Herero and Nama genocides could have become fascist without the Treaty of Versailles or their dumb ass central bank paying off the damages contained therein by debasing their currency (literally the "it's free real estate" meme).

BisMarckie · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:51:56 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 28, 2019, 04:48:33 PM

I don't know about y'all, but I find it hard to believe that the state that did Polenausweisungen or the Herero and Nama genocides could have become fascist without the Treaty of Versailles or their dumb ass central bank paying off the damages contained therein by debasing their currency (literally the "it's free real estate" meme).

It would have had a Prussian monarchic tint though.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2019, 04:55:26 PM »

Debasing the currency also had very tangible impact on the population, I would have never thought that you were such a structuralist

EightBitNate · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2019, 05:07:32 PM »

It was right around the time Burger King changed their chicken tenders

Steve Contra · « **Reply #25 on:** July 28, 2019, 05:48:09 PM »

Fiat currency
When sasha grey quit porn
That scream parody the wayans brother did

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #26 on:** July 28, 2019, 06:28:43 PM »

Quote from: EightBitNate on July 28, 2019, 05:07:32 PM

It was right around the time Burger King changed their chicken tenders

They have tacos now though, so who's to say whether it was right or wrong?

mormapope · « **Reply #27 on:** July 28, 2019, 06:30:08 PM »

Thinking about living, existence, purpose, the main driving force for every living organism, intelligent or otherwise, is to live and survive. Bears, horses, dogs, once developed and born, don't choose death outright. Survival is ingrained in living organisms, and that to me is the greatest mystery. Why is survival an automatic function in living organisms.

The best answer to me, is existence as we know it, our universe, is some sort of simulation with that being a baseline attribute. We are a simulation created to solve problems, provide data for experiments or inquiries, all for the benefit for the creatures running the simulation.

Right or wrong is out of our control, we simply exist in the simulation. Its extra fun to think if our simulation doesn't have an afterlife, simply due to laziness or the lack of effort put in.

Uncle · « **Reply #28 on:** July 28, 2019, 06:44:03 PM »

the main problem was letting Rian Johnson both write and direct

Nintex · « **Reply #29 on:** July 28, 2019, 06:50:03 PM »

Yeah, it's kinda weird how all humans are born pre-programmed in some way.
There are some attributes that all humans have or nearly all life on the planet has.

I have this idea that in the past this simulation was controlled in some way (by Pharaoh's in pyramids, gods or the arc of the covenant or whatever) and the beings that created the simulation have since gone extinct and this 'eco system' has gone rogue for millennia.
If you look at how fairly easy it is to build your own confined eco system, with a box, some plants and insects; it almost becomes crazy not to think we live on some sort of artificially created biological cycle.

The fact that everything runs on measurable data such as time is further evidence of this theory.

Plus humans are the most versatile and adaptable of all species. If you were in need for some sort of 'worker' in your simulation you would likely end up with a design much like a human.
The fact that we want to model our robots after ourselves again underlines this.

toku · « **Reply #30 on:** July 28, 2019, 07:47:10 PM »

Hey Nintex, you ever try DMT?

Atramental · « **Reply #31 on:** July 28, 2019, 07:55:34 PM »

Experienced pyschonauts have told me that they have seen the all seeing eye of “god” and it has very worried look when it sees our dimension.

But it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things if we die off because there’s countless other civilizations in other dimensions that will get it right.

Probably not us though because our scientific know how evolved faster than our empathy.

Tasty · « **Reply #32 on:** July 28, 2019, 07:57:34 PM »

Everything started sucking when Segata left.

But at least magoose got his gamergate thread

nudemacusers · « **Reply #33 on:** July 28, 2019, 08:02:24 PM »

Quote from: Steve Contra on July 28, 2019, 05:48:09 PM

Fiat currency
When sasha grey quit porn
That scream parody the wayans brother did

Nail in the coffin for our current reality was this:

Gonna need some dark matter to step up and crush our baryonic existence into nothing

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #34 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:38:06 PM »

You’ll get a good laugh in 20 years when someone is reflecting on this time as “the good old days”. It never ends, this carousel we are on.

toku · « **Reply #35 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:49:06 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #36 on:** July 28, 2019, 09:50:02 PM »

Quote from: toku on July 28, 2019, 09:49:06 PM

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I was going to say: probably when Cain killed Abel. I mean like, Adam and Eve fucked up pretty bad, but at least it weren't murder.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #37 on:** July 28, 2019, 10:18:46 PM »

Your Dad not wearing a condom

Tasty · « **Reply #38 on:** July 28, 2019, 10:27:52 PM »

Quote from: shosta on July 28, 2019, 10:21:49 PM

Quote from: Steve Contra on July 28, 2019, 05:48:09 PM
That scream parody the wayans brother did
Scary Movie 1-4 were all good

4 was not good, but passable I suppose.

1-3 are solid, especially 2 and 3.

eleuin · « **Reply #39 on:** July 28, 2019, 10:38:34 PM »

When Betty Crocker changed the recipe of the Scooby-Doo Fruit Flavoured Snacks :'(

Kara · « **Reply #40 on:** July 28, 2019, 10:46:03 PM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on July 28, 2019, 04:55:26 PM

Debasing the currency also had very tangible impact on the population, I would have never thought that you were such a structuralist

*Economics 101 documentary narrator voice* 50,000,000,000,000 Papiermark notes can be exchanged for goods and services.

team filler · « **Reply #41 on:** July 28, 2019, 11:23:14 PM »

Quote from: Atramental on July 28, 2019, 07:55:34 PM

Experienced pyschonauts have told me that they have seen the all seeing eye of “god” and it has very worried look when it sees our dimension.

But it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things if we die off because there’s countless other civilizations in other dimensions that will get it right.

Probably not us though because our scientific know how evolved faster than our empathy.

need more of this stuff.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #42 on:** July 29, 2019, 07:26:51 AM »

It's the not about where you from it's about where you at.

Let's look what we can do better going forward instead of wallowing on mistakes of the past like giving Belgium independence.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #43 on:** July 29, 2019, 09:25:40 AM »

Well, I don't wanna blame it all on 9/11, but it probably didn't help.

Kara · « **Reply #44 on:** July 29, 2019, 11:29:08 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 29, 2019, 07:26:51 AM

It's the not about where you from it's about where you at.

Let's look what we can do better going forward instead of wallowing on mistakes of the past like giving Belgium independence.

Belgium: We need to be a separate country partly because we chafe under the yoke of Protestant oppression.

Also Belgium: We're going to invite a Protestant to be our king.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #45 on:** July 29, 2019, 11:32:54 AM »

Not a lot of potential catholic kings available on the market those days. I am pretty sure they weren‘t a big fan of getting another Spanish ruler as well.

And let‘s be honest: Nobody likes the Habsburgs.

Kara · « **Reply #46 on:** July 29, 2019, 11:59:43 AM »

If you're telling me that the French Revolutionary Wars wiped out every inbred failson in the Bavarian nobility then I guess critical support for liberalism.

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Listen, strange taxpaying men over the age of 25 lyin' in Palais de la Nations distributin' popular monarchies is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical minority-rule ceremony!

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Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #47 on:** July 29, 2019, 12:04:05 PM »

Somedays all I can think about is how much better the world would be now if Philip V had not been made to renounce his succession to the French throne.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #48 on:** July 29, 2019, 12:14:00 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 29, 2019, 11:29:08 AM

Quote from: Premium Lager on July 29, 2019, 07:26:51 AM
It's the not about where you from it's about where you at.

Let's look what we can do better going forward instead of wallowing on mistakes of the past like giving Belgium independence.

Belgium: We need to be a separate country partly because we chafe under the yoke of Protestant oppression.

Also Belgium: We're going to invite a Protestant to be our king.

Both-siderism

Kara · « **Reply #49 on:** July 29, 2019, 12:18:16 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on July 29, 2019, 12:04:05 PM

Somedays all I can think about is how much better the world would be now if Philip V had not been made to renounce his succession to the French throne.

You would be a Legitimist.

Kara · « **Reply #50 on:** July 29, 2019, 02:39:01 PM »

Thread is pretty cac, been thinking of ones from actually relevant parts of the world.

-The assassination of Uthman ~~by the coward Robert Ford~~
-The Battle of Karbala
-The success of the Abbasid Revolution

If this seems incoherently contradictory, I also studied Islamics in university.

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Umayyads

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Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #51 on:** July 29, 2019, 02:45:05 PM »

I don't know what those are? You talking 40k again?

BisMarckie · « **Reply #52 on:** July 29, 2019, 02:53:20 PM »

A good candidate is the Constantinian shift.
Abrahamic religions

#Julianwasright

Banking on those rare PD likes

Kara · « **Reply #53 on:** July 29, 2019, 03:09:18 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on July 29, 2019, 02:45:05 PM

I don't know what those are? You talking 40k again?

"Slaughter Koorland: A Modern Day Abu Muslim Abd al-Rahman ibn Muslim al-Khurasani?" was my thesis.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #54 on:** July 29, 2019, 03:25:56 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 29, 2019, 11:59:43 AM

If you're telling me that the French Revolutionary Wars wiped out every inbred failson in the Bavarian nobility then I guess critical support for liberalism.

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Listen, strange taxpaying men over the age of 25 lyin' in Palais de la Nations distributin' popular monarchies is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical minority-rule ceremony!
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The Bavarian Wittelsbach line died out in the late 18th century. I doubt they wanted an impostor propped up by Napoleon.

Kara · « **Reply #55 on:** July 29, 2019, 04:01:56 PM »

One of the early candidates was Napoleon's stepson.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #56 on:** July 29, 2019, 04:05:54 PM »

I don‘t know how much you know about the Palatinate (I‘m an expert) but having a king from basically Germany‘s Arkansas would destroy any legitimacy of the Belgian state immediately.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #57 on:** July 29, 2019, 04:09:51 PM »

Deep cut against Bill Clinton.

kingv · « **Reply #58 on:** July 29, 2019, 04:21:00 PM »

Quote from: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 28, 2019, 10:18:46 PM

Your Dad not wearing a condom

Makes me think there is mileage in a back to the future 4 when Marty goes back in time and pokes holes in his dads condom.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #59 on:** July 29, 2019, 04:26:23 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 29, 2019, 03:09:18 PM

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on July 29, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
I don't know what those are? You talking 40k again?

"Slaughter Koorland: A Modern Day Abu Muslim Abd al-Rahman ibn Muslim al-Khurasani?" was my thesis.

Your thesis in tax accounting school?

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