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Re: Disco Elysium = the worst named best new CRPG
« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2019, 05:23:11 PM »
Thinking about it more, with the writer apparently being the designer, I bet the difficulty being so forgiving was more of a design decision than anything. Heíd want as many people as possible to see his writing. This is more or less an advanced adventure game when you think about it. Maybe if this gets a bigger reception and people make noise, theyíll change their approach. It also runs like shit considering what it is, so maybe they were more concerned with getting this out the door than they were with making it more of a game-y game.
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« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2019, 05:35:16 PM »
this looks so good but the name is so awful
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« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2019, 05:43:25 PM »
this looks so good but the name is so awful

I donít want to say itís one of those situations where the name clicks and itís like ďa-ha!Ē as you play it, but it is explained/mentioned at several points (depending on how things go I guess). The original name (No Truce with the Furies) was nicer and it fits the game very well but I think it wouldíve made the game maybe sound too dramatic and esoteric and not like a fun romp.

My finish time was ~32 hours. I had most side quests complete and probably 5ish or so hours of idle time. Very highly recommended. Not for everyone, but the ones it is for will love it.

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The end came across as a little rushed, and I was a tad disappointed by the left field resolution, at least until I got drawn into that conversation with the suspect, which tied so much of the gameís themes and previous conversations together. As a conclusion to a mystery, it was kind of a bummer, but as a nice ribbon on a grab bag or themes, it was pretty damned good
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I want a sequel in this world ASAP. With one writer though, I wonder how long that will take. Writing isnít something like tech where you can just throw money at it to get good content.
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« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2019, 07:03:17 PM »
Ending:

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Felt the same way about the Deserter, didn't like him being the culprit, but worked thematically. The final conversation with your old partners was cool, but felt way too abrupt to be the ending.

The entire game's story also felt like an Act 1 to something even bigger. Hopefully a sequel with a larger scope is in the works, with your save from the prior game affecting things.
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« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2019, 08:09:24 PM »
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I also agree with the act 1 feeling, but at the same time I wasnít that disappointed because it was mostly really great, and I also felt that the game had kind of run its course considering the depth of the gameplay. I donít think I wouldíve liked this nearly as much if it were the same thing but with 30 more hours of story content. Iíd much rather get the next batch of story in a sequel that refines and changes things up a bit.
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« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2019, 12:51:19 AM »
Love that the first quest on my replay that I get playing a druggie-hobocop is to get some cigs.

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« Reply #66 on: November 28, 2019, 10:11:30 AM »
Wasn't planning to get around to this anytime soon despite all the great things im hearing but got gifted it for thanksgiving so bless up and happy thanksgiving. Rolling with a sensitive type yeadatsme.gif

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« Reply #67 on: November 28, 2019, 04:01:05 PM »
The world isnít going to be very nice to you. Enjoy! I truly loved my time with that game.
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« Reply #68 on: November 28, 2019, 11:56:49 PM »
Second playthrough is already way more hilarious than the first.

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Telling Garte about Sylvie about riding the *cock carousel* cause my character's such a dumbass was the funniest thing I've done so far.

Also got a free drink out of it - allowing me to pass another quest I didn't get on my previous playthrough!
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« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2019, 11:19:04 PM »
Rolling with a 4-4-1-3 custom archetype.
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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2019, 01:29:27 PM »
Did the fan kill you Rumbler?

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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2019, 02:33:59 PM »
Yes, several times.
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« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2019, 01:40:16 PM »
It took me a little while, but I'm now totally invested. The game's systems were a bit difficult to get a feel for at first, but everything eventually starts to click into place and I'm making good progress. Still not entirely sure I set up my character the way I really wanted, but there's enough flexibility that I can make my custom archetype work [at least once I tweaked things so I'm not having a heart attack all the time]. And once things start to move, the look and feel of this strange world, and its strange people, really takes over. The developers clearly intended to create something different and interesting, and they've done that.

I also like how outside of the quick, initial setup a great deal of who the main character is grows out of interactions with other characters and the environment. It's not all presented upfront, very similar to Planescape: Torment in that regard. And as someone who spends a lot of time holding conversations in his own head, I appreciate having the various facets of the MC's personality and psyche manifest in dialog.

Disco Elysium could very easily slot into my top five RPGs of all time, and I can see myself replaying it again once I get finished with the first playthrough.
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« Reply #73 on: December 12, 2019, 09:57:27 AM »
I save-scummed so I could successfully punch the one kid in the face.
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« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2019, 02:03:13 PM »
fucking kuno

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« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2019, 03:56:38 PM »
Cuno's top 5


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« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2019, 04:15:02 PM »
You can shoot at the children if you're so inclined. Great game.

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« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2019, 07:00:57 AM »
Yeah I did that, and apparently ruined a pretty large story line with Cuno... But well, that just means I can do that on my next play through.

Surprised to see it won so much at the game awards. Outer worlds and all that trash got shit on by Disco.


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« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2019, 11:48:36 PM »
lmao, PC gamers are the easiest group in the world to trigger

This game also manages to criticize Marxism more than any other video game ever made  :brain

Pussy ass leftists can't even do propaganda right

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And the culprit, who's a diehard commie holdout from the revolution even writes a criticism to himself after abandoning his post :lol
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« Reply #82 on: December 13, 2019, 11:54:36 PM »
World's Most Laughable Centrist
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« Reply #83 on: December 23, 2019, 11:19:52 AM »
the attention this is getting is insane.


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« Reply #84 on: December 23, 2019, 01:00:07 PM »
the attention this is getting is insane.

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Is this for real?

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« Reply #85 on: December 23, 2019, 01:02:28 PM »
Yes for the special issue.

https://time.com/5752663/best-video-games-2010s-decade/

Greta is on the cover of the main one.

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« Reply #86 on: December 23, 2019, 01:18:37 PM »
How does one obtain such a special issue? Can I order it somewhere?

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« Reply #87 on: December 23, 2019, 02:16:08 PM »
Think those are online only? Not sure though, I am not a nerd that reads.

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« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2019, 06:31:34 PM »
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OH MY GOD

The Insulindian Phasmid!!!

Even when everyone else gave up I never stopped believing!! :tocry
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« Reply #89 on: January 02, 2020, 08:02:51 PM »
I need to eventually play this, but I'm unsure if I can keep up with the reading. Is it ALL reading, or are there actual 2D/3D navigation elements?

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« Reply #90 on: January 02, 2020, 11:12:57 PM »
It's an Infinity Engine RPG without the combat, so yeah.
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« Reply #91 on: January 03, 2020, 03:25:35 AM »
I need to eventually play this, but I'm unsure if I can keep up with the reading. Is it ALL reading, or are there actual 2D/3D navigation elements?

There is a lot of reading.

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« Reply #92 on: January 03, 2020, 03:26:02 AM »
Im gonna finish this this weekend :)

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« Reply #93 on: January 24, 2020, 06:15:52 PM »
Game is 20% off on the Steam Lunar New Year sale, I bought it mostly because I had a $50 gift card sitting in my steam wallet so why not. Not sure when I'll get around to playing it.
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« Reply #94 on: January 24, 2020, 07:14:17 PM »
It was okay, it was great until the last third. 

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« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2020, 05:42:54 AM »
Game is 20% off on the Steam Lunar New Year sale, I bought it mostly because I had a $50 gift card sitting in my steam wallet so why not. Not sure when I'll get around to playing it.

You of all people should prioritize playing it immediately. Itís a safe bet you will love this gave. Make sure you set aside at least an hour or two so you can get into it.

After having time to sink in, this is definitely an all-timer. This and Torment are going to be forever paired in my head as tops for writing.
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« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2020, 09:56:05 AM »
I have been told that by enough people I trust to believe it. My interest in vidya is just at an ebb and I'm dealing with enough real life shit at the moment that even if I were feeling like playing the game, I don't have time for it anyway. Soon.
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« Reply #97 on: March 06, 2020, 03:34:02 PM »


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« Reply #99 on: April 10, 2020, 10:31:18 AM »
You can shoot at the children if you're so inclined.

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« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2020, 06:05:24 AM »
Will buy on swiiitch aw yeah.

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« Reply #101 on: April 11, 2020, 05:03:11 PM »
5 hours in, about 3/4ths through exploring the opening town map. Got the hang of it. Going with a mostly intuition + physical build. Game is a great. Really well written and entertaining dialogue.

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« Reply #102 on: April 11, 2020, 10:38:33 PM »
Around 7 hours in getting a little burnt out on it. Is the whole game just 3-5 days in this one town area between the Union & Company? I get on Day 3 the bridge will be fixed so the map will hopefully expand a bit, but idk I sorta expected like 3-4 areas from the early hours.

It was fun exploring around like an rpg and discovering questlines and secrets and freezer bears and stuff. But now it feels like I've seen the whole map and it's just running back and forth doing errands/talking to people to finish up the quests. Hoping there's more areas, otherwise it's well written adventure game with some branching choices to how you solve quests, but idk, from the hype I'm expecting more than that.

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« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2020, 11:23:53 PM »
I mean, yeah, the game is all about interacting with people in this one neighborhood and solving the central mystery [and a few others] in your own way.
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« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2020, 11:46:20 PM »
How do you unlock more than 3 thoughts to internalize? There's a ton that say unlockable, but I'm limited to 3 and I already have like 5 and you can't just swap them around like equip :|

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« Reply #105 on: April 11, 2020, 11:48:38 PM »
You can put a skill point into having more space for thoughts in your thought cabinet.
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« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2020, 11:51:11 PM »
You can put a skill point into having more space for thoughts in your thought cabinet.

Instead of into skills?

Seems like a better thing to do since it can get you +2 vs. +1. But then it also gives you a -1 and you can't just turn them off like equipment so idk.

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« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2020, 12:08:12 AM »
Also, I'm probably in the super minority here but the parody socialist/communist/free market tensions are so overdone that while sometimes they're clever and funny, a lot of the time I kinda roll my eyes over the dialogues on them. Definitely find the inner monologue characters much more well done than the political commentary.

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« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2020, 05:18:06 AM »
On day 3 now. Back into it. Just gotta be in the right mood. The characters are really good. Like the couple tracks of music.

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« Reply #109 on: April 13, 2020, 02:47:53 PM »
Yeah, the gates opening on day 3 like doubled the map size with the church and beaches and stuff. Still working through exploring all that and getting side tracked from the main investigation haha.

The body is still up and I feel bad about that. I havenít tried shooting the branch because my percentages suck and the only other option itís given me since day 2 was to find help to move it but I havenít gotten that yet. At some point the body will come down.

Have made substantial progress in the investigation though.

Definitely thinking I will do a 2nd play right after with a different build.

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« Reply #110 on: April 14, 2020, 01:31:23 AM »
Spent tonight and most of day 3 on the church/music club sidequest. Was pretty satisfying to finish it. Just have a few more bits of the boardwalk to explore and then day 4 should be able to get back to the main case.

I have a bunch of unused skill points because I have no idea what to use them on anymore. The thoughts thing is so bs. Not only do you use a skill point to make a slot for them after the first 3, but you have no idea what they do when they're done and so far most of them have been junk with more negative drawbacks than positive, so you end up spending another skill point to remove them.  -_-  I'd be more ok with the thoughts if you could see what they do when they're done before committing to them.


For next run, I'll go with visual/logic/agility because I fail all that here and miss some of the thinking stuff.

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« Reply #111 on: April 14, 2020, 04:06:06 AM »
The thoughts were originally intended to be more punishing according to the developers lol.

Some of them are pretty useful, or at least gives you some interesting new dialogue options.

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« Reply #112 on: April 15, 2020, 04:15:06 AM »
Finished this. That was very good! Really fleshed out location/characters and thought it ended well and things generally all came together.

Definitely reminded me of an Obsidian game on a smaller scale. I looked up if there was mod support and saw there isn't which is a bit of a bummer. Would be interested to see if people could add anything neat. I'd like a mod that makes thoughts like equipment where you can switch them around without skill points. Didn't really end up using them at all and the only way I'd use them in a 2nd run would be to read a guide and see what all of them do and pick out ones that would help my build.

So plot-wise the only thing that was kinda weird was the

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Ruby sub-plot where she's in charge of the cover up and then you track her down and she has her THE PALE machine to blast on you...and then that never goes anywhere.
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The church bit was pretty neat. I saw that they're working on an expansion pack along with a sequel due to the success of the game. Will be interesting to see what the expansion does.

Will do a logic/agility run at some point. It was kinda of annoying not passing any logic stuff and
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during the big shoot out, failing every single stat check since they're all logic/agility -_-
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I do kinda feel like for as open/non-linear as the game comes across, when you reach that point it all kinda pulls back together to a linear path that makes it seem like most of the choices in the game up until then didn't matter. But maybe I'll think different after a replay.

Also I could have used some quality of life stuff like fast travel. Once you unlock the island, running back and forth from the island to the inn/harbor feels a bit padding.

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« Reply #113 on: April 20, 2020, 10:06:27 PM »
Started playing this. I'm absolutely enthralled. I was able to punch a shitty child, was chastised for it but it worked out in my favor.

The darker dialog paths feel like they extend into unreturnable places too. There's one particular point where I kept trying to accomplish a task and was given a truly stupid choice after failing every other way. I had to punch out at that point. The fact that the choice was there is both hilarious and intriguing. Something to find out what happens on a second playthrough.

Also the gamely feels so novel to me, the system in particular, that I haven't felt this out of my depth by a game in a very long time. It's a wonderful feeling.

I'm not save scumming either, just going with the flow. The game seems to be designed in ways that has you thinking around those skill checks.
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« Reply #114 on: April 21, 2020, 01:39:28 AM »
Best way to play the game is not savescumming. It's very forgiving when it comes to missing choices, and a lot of the failed checks end up way more interesting than the successful ones.

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« Reply #115 on: April 21, 2020, 01:55:55 AM »
I still save scummed on some of the important bits. You kinda get funneled down a linear path of how to solve quests a lot of the time if you're failing checks which sucks.

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« Reply #116 on: April 21, 2020, 03:17:40 PM »
I just kicked someone's ass. And to get by the white check I initially failed I had to take off my shirt and swig some alcohol to raise my physique enough to get by. This fucking game.
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« Reply #117 on: April 25, 2020, 02:29:15 PM »
This is $10 off on Steam this weekend, thinking about grabbing it.

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« Reply #118 on: April 25, 2020, 04:17:48 PM »
I died from kicking a mailbox, best game ever confirmed
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« Reply #119 on: April 26, 2020, 03:51:27 PM »
I failed the karaoke check, but I think that's the proper outcome tbh
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