Author Topic: Xbox Series S and X (Read 84077 times)

"The Series X is hot, like really hot! It doesn’t make any noise, but damn it’s hot! The console is emitting heat like crazy. It’s almost like a fireplace shaft. You can heat up your flat with it."

Sounds like it needs that hog of a heatsink like the PSFif.

Best not wait for Spring and get it for the Winter, brehz.

naff · « **Reply #848 on:** October 08, 2020, 05:43:08 PM »

they're both going to be space heaters, though no worse than your average pc (prob better tbh)

Rufus · « **Reply #849 on:** October 08, 2020, 06:51:06 PM »

Why are they surprised at hot air coming out the vent? That's a good sign! Those 300+ watt needs to go somewhere.

tiesto · « **Reply #850 on:** October 08, 2020, 09:30:42 PM »

So my brother's giving me his launch-day Xbone now that he's moving (too bad he's not gifting me all his CIB N64 and GBA games :/ )...
Anything worth getting that's not already on PS4/Switch (or is improved on the Bone...heh) and would appeal to a retro/weeb gamer like me? Rare Replay is the obvious one.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #851 on:** October 09, 2020, 03:20:27 AM »

The Ori games I guess but those are also available on Switch, they actually did a pretty decent Switch port.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #852 on:** October 10, 2020, 08:00:31 AM »

Quote from: Rufus on October 08, 2020, 06:51:06 PM

Why are they surprised at hot air coming out the vent? That's a good sign! Those 300+ watt needs to go somewhere.

Bu bu its so much better if the insides melt like in the 360

bork · « **Reply #853 on:** October 10, 2020, 05:24:27 PM »

https://twitter.com/digitalfoundry/status/1314915813703512065

Quote from: Svejk on October 08, 2020, 10:13:16 AM

Supposedly the XSX runs really hot...
https://www.pcmag.com/news/multiple-reports-suggest-xbox-series-x-runs-really-hot
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"The Series X is hot, like really hot! It doesn’t make any noise, but damn it’s hot! The console is emitting heat like crazy. It’s almost like a fireplace shaft. You can heat up your flat with it."
Sounds like it needs that hog of a heatsink like the PSFif.

Best not wait for Spring and get it for the Winter, brehz.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #854 on:** October 11, 2020, 05:29:16 AM »

Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

Nintex · « **Reply #855 on:** October 11, 2020, 07:47:13 AM »

demi · « **Reply #856 on:** October 11, 2020, 12:55:45 PM »

Finally, the journalism I've been waiting for

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1315148169831837696

Raist · « **Reply #857 on:** October 12, 2020, 11:00:25 AM »

Quote from: Cerveza mas fina on October 11, 2020, 05:29:16 AM

Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

You sold a better console to get a Series S? Congrats.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #858 on:** October 12, 2020, 11:09:53 AM »

Quote from: Cerveza mas fina on October 11, 2020, 05:29:16 AM

Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

I would absolutely get an S myself if it wasn't for the resolution stuff with backwards compatible games. Or if I was a multi-console owner I would get one either way because the backwards compatability would be less of an issue with play time spread around multiple systems.

I'm really glad the S exists either way for people who don't need the 4k stuff and aren't especially anal about the back compat.

Raist · « **Reply #859 on:** October 12, 2020, 02:33:23 PM »

Quick resume looking decent.

What doesn't is games like Halo MCC, FH4 and Gears 5 not running yet

mormapope · « **Reply #860 on:** October 12, 2020, 03:48:03 PM »

Digital Foundry played or was shown Gears 5 on the series S. I imagine the updates/upgrades for those aren't ready yet to release.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #861 on:** October 13, 2020, 04:35:22 AM »

Quote from: Raist on October 12, 2020, 02:33:23 PM

Quick resume looking decent.

What doesn't is games like Halo MCC, FH4 and Gears 5 not running yet

Wtffff? Fh4 dont work?

Svejk · « **Reply #862 on:** October 13, 2020, 08:13:04 AM »

Quote from: Raist on October 12, 2020, 02:33:23 PM

Quick resume looking decent.

What doesn't is games like Halo MCC, FH4 and Gears 5 not running yet

Aren't those the main games the reason people buys boners?

Surely that'll be patched up Day 1, right?

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #863 on:** October 13, 2020, 10:18:49 AM »

they're doing series x versions of them

mormapope · « **Reply #864 on:** October 13, 2020, 10:29:46 AM »

*while the usual concern trolling for Microsoft continues

And that's on the Series S.

demi · « **Reply #865 on:** October 13, 2020, 10:54:40 AM »

Fallout 4 and Sekiro at 60, good thing I waited. Backlogs rule

brawndolicious · « **Reply #866 on:** October 13, 2020, 04:54:06 PM »

Quote from: Raist on October 12, 2020, 11:00:25 AM

Quote from: Cerveza mas fina on October 11, 2020, 05:29:16 AM
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

You sold a better console to get a Series S? Congrats.

The One X and PS4Pro play Yakuza at 1080P/30fps. The Series S does get 1440P/30fps and it's worth noting that the Yakuza engine is apparently not well-optimized for next-gen hardware. Even a 2080Ti can't do 4K/60fps.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #867 on:** October 13, 2020, 10:20:44 PM »

Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed

naff · « **Reply #868 on:** October 13, 2020, 10:31:57 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 13, 2020, 10:20:44 PM

Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed

i dont think anyone knows at this point and won't for a few more weeks, but pretty safe to say sony's tech in this area won't be as good as m$ who were also pretty innovative with their bc tech on the bone

makes sense given microsoft have more experience supporting legacy code than pretty much any other company on the face of the planet and have more money than god. would be embarrassing af if sony outdid them.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #869 on:** October 14, 2020, 02:04:51 AM »

Quote from: Raist on October 12, 2020, 11:00:25 AM

Quote from: Cerveza mas fina on October 11, 2020, 05:29:16 AM
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.

Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.

You sold a better console to get a Series S? Congrats.

You think the One X will run next gen games better then the S?

I have a bridge to sell you...

For last gen games this can make sense, but games made now will be made with the new CPUs in mind. One X won't hack it despite some advantages.

For last gen compatibility it sucks though a bit as you will most likely get some tradeoffs.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #870 on:** October 14, 2020, 02:08:28 AM »

I think the big elephant in the room is whether MS is going to push more towards the traditional, closed garden ecosystem where you can only get games from them and they have ultimate power to set the price, or if they want most of their revenue to come from subscribers that can be playing on any device under the sun?

Their marketing seems to suggest that they're going all in on Game Pass and Play Anywhere but wouldn't that mean that they'd have to compete with game prices that are on Steam, GOG, Best Buy, and really every retail chain? Like we all want our game library to be something we can carry forever in case we get nostalgic so the idea of a multiplatform library that has competitive pricing is appealing, but I don't know if I trust MS to really take that risk and bet that enough people will be on GP to make it worth it.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #871 on:** October 14, 2020, 02:22:57 AM »

Quote from: brawndolicious on October 14, 2020, 02:08:28 AM

Like we all want our game library to be something we can carry forever in case we get nostalgic so the idea of a multiplatform library that has competitive pricing is appealing, but I don't know if I trust MS to really take that risk and bet that enough people will be on GP to make it worth it.

I really don't care anymore.

Just like movie collections for me. Used to be a thing. Used to own VHS/DVDs. Now I watch whats on tap/demand and don't care.

There is so much on offer, I can just wait for it to become available or just try something else.

bork · « **Reply #872 on:** October 14, 2020, 07:26:20 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 13, 2020, 10:20:44 PM

Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed

Guessing not or they would have announced it already. Sony seems to be updating some of their own games, like Ghosts Of Tsushima, to run at 60 FPS and that's all we know.

Microsoft is handling backwards compatibility way better than anyone else.

Svejk · « **Reply #873 on:** October 14, 2020, 08:15:21 AM »

Quote from: bork on October 14, 2020, 07:26:20 AM

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 13, 2020, 10:20:44 PM
Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed

Guessing not or they would have announced it already. Sony seems to be updating some of their own games, like Ghosts Of Tsushima, to run at 60 FPS and that's all we know.

Microsoft is handling backwards compatibility way better than anyone else.

I've ripped on MS enough on them touting BC (among other stuff), but I'm coming around. Good on them for putting the effort they have... simply because backlogs are so trill nowadays.
And wtf is the deal about Cerny basically claiming the Fif can technically do entire PS legacy, but have nothing to show for it currently? Guess if it is a thing, they'll focus it on it later... but not putting the emphasis on it now, like MS has been for a bit, that could end up hurting PS sales.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #874 on:** October 14, 2020, 10:08:35 AM »

Yeah smart by MS, dumb by Sony imho

Its like they haven't learned anything in this regard since Ps1.

mormapope · « **Reply #875 on:** October 14, 2020, 10:45:04 AM »

I think the smartest thing about putting this much effort into BC is how game pass can be beefed up with older releases that will look and perform relatively the same as "modern" games.

Game pass could go from having around 200 games to 500+. Publishers arent going to balk at older games in their catalog going into the service and people potentially buying a game that's five or ten years old.

Regardless of Sony's BC, Microsoft has set up a situation where publishers have a way to sell software that people would otherwise skip.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #876 on:** October 14, 2020, 11:22:54 AM »

I would like to see Ninja Gaiden 2 and Red Dead Redemption running on a series x and see how they perform

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #877 on:** October 14, 2020, 11:40:03 AM »

Red Dead Redemption is already 4K/30 on the Xbox One X. Ninja Gaiden 2 was boosted to a locked 60 fps and a 9x resolution increase.

"The original runs at just 1120x585 but on Microsoft's enhanced console, the resolution sees a 9x boost to 3360x1755."

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #878 on:** October 14, 2020, 11:42:16 AM »

can they do 60 on rdr if rockstar don't patch it

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #879 on:** October 14, 2020, 11:48:54 AM »

The Fallout 4 framerate increase seems to be done on Microsoft's end. So it depends on which games they decide to work on.

mormapope · « **Reply #880 on:** October 14, 2020, 12:40:59 PM »

If the framerate is unlocked: Series S/X will enhance performance on its own.

If the framerate is locked: Microsoft has to patch and update on their end.

Svejk · « **Reply #881 on:** October 15, 2020, 11:05:58 AM »

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Day One Xbox Series X|S Optimized Titles

Assassin’s Creed Valhalla (Smart Delivery)
Borderlands 3 (Smart Delivery)
Bright Memory 1.0
Cuisine Royale (Smart Delivery)
Dead by Daylight (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition
DIRT 5 (Smart Delivery)
Enlisted
Evergate
The Falconeer (Smart Delivery)
Fortnite
Forza Horizon 4 (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Gears 5 (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Gears Tactics (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Grounded (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
King Oddball (Smart Delivery)
Maneater (Smart Delivery)
Manifold Garden (Smart Delivery)
NBA 2K21
Observer: System Redux
Ori and the Will of the Wisps (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Planet Coaster (Smart Delivery)
Sea of Thieves (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Tetris Effect: Connected (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
The Touryst (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
War Thunder (Smart Delivery)
Warhammer: Chaosbane Slayer Edition
Watch Dogs: Legion (Smart Delivery)
WRC 9 FIA World Rally Championship (Smart Delivery)
Yakuza: Like a Dragon (Smart Delivery)
Yes, Your Grace (Smart Delivery)

https://kotaku.com/therell-be-31-xbox-series-x-s-optimized-games-on-day-on-1845380025

MMaRsu · « **Reply #882 on:** October 15, 2020, 11:30:37 AM »

Yikes

mormapope · « **Reply #883 on:** October 15, 2020, 11:37:36 AM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on October 15, 2020, 11:30:37 AM

Yikes

Nintex · « **Reply #884 on:** October 15, 2020, 11:58:13 AM »

Knowing 343i HALO MCC is probably the only game that crashes in backwards compatibility mode

BisMarckie · « **Reply #885 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:12:20 PM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on October 15, 2020, 11:30:37 AM

Yikes

The era of big launch games to sell systems is over. Why dump resources into a game you try to shove out the door for launch, if the core audience who a launch is aimed at, will buy the system anyway.

Low key hoping that the Demon‘s Souls remake is terrible, so that my sealed PS3 copy gains some value.

Akala · « **Reply #886 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:22:05 PM »

I think Dirt 5 is going to get some uplift due to being there out of the gate.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #887 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:30:45 PM »

Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #888 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:38:29 PM »

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 12:30:45 PM

Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.

I love wasting money on new shiny things.

Would have preordered the PS 5 as well, if the window to do so wasn’t like two minutes.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #889 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:40:47 PM »

Also upscaled 360\OG Xbox games at improved frameratesis like the thing I‘m most interested in. No kidding.

mormapope · « **Reply #890 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:42:34 PM »

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 12:30:45 PM

Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.

I have over 600 Xbox games. Should I rebuy all of those on Steam?

Nintex · « **Reply #891 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:43:58 PM »

Quote from: Akala on October 15, 2020, 12:22:05 PM

I think Dirt 5 is going to get some uplift due to being there out of the gate.

It looked surprisingly good, like the type of arcade racer a platform holder would usually push out for launch.

Quote from: BisMarckie on October 15, 2020, 12:12:20 PM

Quote from: MMaRsu on October 15, 2020, 11:30:37 AM
Yikes

The era of big launch games to sell systems is over. Why dump resources into a game you try to shove out the door for launch, if the core audience who a launch is aimed at, will buy the system anyway.

HALO was the big one for Microsoft and they botched it. They also rebooted Fable at some point and ran into trouble with the new Forza as well.
Sony definitely had Ratchet delayed because of the situation regarding the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Right as 'next gen' geared up Ubisoft, EA and a bunch of other publishers got into trouble.
Ancel fucked up BG&E2 and Ubi had to delay all their games last FY because Ghost Recon did so terrible. Moving Watch Dogs and other games into this year.
EA had nothing but a Star Wars passion project from one of their smaller devs this year and now a remake of Need for Speed made with a budget of two strings and a pack of gum.
BioWare is still a mess and DICE has joined them in mediocrity. Square Enix bet the farm on a dull Marvel GaaS this year.

Capcom also ran into difficulties with Ono and Resident Evil Village and WB was trying to sell the place until they didn't.
Bethesda sold out to Microsoft and SEGA is... well SEGA. All these publishers are caught in an identity crisis, development transition or business transition.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #892 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:44:53 PM »

But other then the fact that you already have the disc and the obvious 360/Xbox exclusive like Lost Odyssey or Panzer Dragoon wouldn’t a PC better serve that. Like yes Dead Space at 4K will be nice, but it won’t make it run past 30fps. Also you guys really have time to dig through the backlog. I have a One X, tons of 360 games, and no life. I’ve hardly have time to ever care about BC on these things and when I do replay an old game it is on PC where it can improve the game beyond what the Xbox could do.

Nuitangg · « **Reply #893 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:47:45 PM »

Have fun playing Destruction All Stars

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #894 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:54:22 PM »

Quote from: riotous on October 15, 2020, 12:43:23 PM

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 12:30:45 PM
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.

To play the games they are already playing with better graphics, much faster load times, etc.

That's not exciting for everyone, but I don't get why it's so hard to understand. Do you mostly play short SP games that you stop playing when you are done or something? Lots of people play the same games for years at a time.

And not everyone likes PC gaming. Another weird one that I don't get why people don't understand, as if buying a PC and playing games on it is the same experience as buying a console.

I don’t understand it because I’ve never seen people excited for a console to play games they already own. I’ve never seen the sole reason a console is getting praised is the BC.

And yes I mostly play single player games and when I beat them I move unto the next one. Occasionally I’ll replay them if I get the itch, but I’m not playing say Gears of War 5 for years at a time. There’s too many new games to play. I mean it’s taking me forever to finish 20-25 hour games these days. I can’t imagine what would happen if I had a family and bigger responsibilities that I already have. I imagine at that point I’ll only have time for the games I’m really interested in.

And while I am a big proponent for consoles(it almost seems like roles on the bore have switched). PC gaming really is pretty easy. If your an enthusiast and invested in playing old games, I don’t know why you wouldn’t want to have a decent gaming pc on the side. No matter what MS or Sony do, their BC is always going to have limits. And I mostly bring this up because the audience here already also seems to have gaming PCs. Like I don’t view the posters here as people that just play cod or GTA.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #895 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:55:10 PM »

Quote from: Nuitangg on October 15, 2020, 12:47:45 PM

Have fun playing Destruction All Stars

Ill be playing Cyberpunk probably on One X first and then PC.

I mean have fun playing whats on the Series X i guess.... I enjoyed a good portion of those games.....when I played them in 2019.

Nintex · « **Reply #896 on:** October 15, 2020, 12:56:46 PM »

If you still have original PS4/Xbox One it makes a lot of sense to upgrade now and the jump is huge.

For me as an Xbox One X owner, I already got most of these backwards compatibility improvements but Auto HDR did pique my interest.
I settled on upgrading my PC first with a Ryzen 5800x or 5900x and get an Xbox Series X or PS5 next year.

And I agree with Riotous, every time I want to play CONTROL on my 4k TV the set-up is more difficult than booting up VR even.
Switching sound devices, switching screens, resetting resolutions, syncing controllers and very poor HDR implementation in Windows overall.
And when you are finally playing you forgot to turn off your gazillion chat notifications

The entire process is just cumbersome and not as easy and carefree as console gaming.
Right now Switch is the smoothest for me, followed by the Xbox One X.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #897 on:** October 15, 2020, 01:07:46 PM »

Quote from: mormapope on October 15, 2020, 12:42:34 PM

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on October 15, 2020, 12:30:45 PM
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.

I have over 600 Xbox games. Should I rebuy all of those on Steam?

Are you going to replay most of those 600 games? Probably would be pretty to cheap to rebuy the ones you will and clearly money is'nt an issue since you bought 600 xbox games.

But yes for someone like you who is already knee deep in the xbox ecosystem, I guess you might as well buy the next one.

I'm not and they aren't really convincing me to either.

It’s possible I haven’t moved to this new phone/ecosystem like perspective on buying consoles, but instead see buying a new console as kind of a reboot. But my outdated perspective is stuck seeing a consoles for what new things they will have, not BC.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #898 on:** October 15, 2020, 01:22:32 PM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on October 15, 2020, 12:40:47 PM

Also upscaled 360\OG Xbox games at improved frameratesis like the thing I‘m most interested in. No kidding.

Same

And give me Otogi 1/2 BC you fujckers at Xbox

Lonewulfeus · « **Reply #899 on:** October 15, 2020, 01:34:16 PM »

I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.

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Author Topic: Xbox Series S and X (Read 84077 times)