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Rman

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I decided to make a dedicated thread for this excellent show since you guys just complain about the movies in the other SW thread. Boring!

Let's move on to the true hotness of the SW media right now.

Since I'm assuming not everyone is caught up yet, let's use spoilers for the big spoilery stuff. 

All in all, I was pretty satisfied.  I loved the spaghetti Western-style in a Star Wars skin.  It's not Breaking Bad or Sopranos, but it doesn't have to be.  Seeing some idiotic takes about this show needed Emmy style acting is baffling.  Not every show needs that.

Also, S2 is confirmed for Fall 2020.

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That Darksaber was sure cool!
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more like Babysitting Baby Yoda: The Show

Don Rumata

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6 episodes in.
This thing has amazing production values, cgi and practical effects are among the best i've seen in a tv show... and it's like watching paint dry, WTF.
I'll refrain from further comments until i'm done with the last 2 episodes, but i'm starting to think that Star Wars is cursed.

EDIT: Yeah, Baby Yoda is cute af, but you can't carry a show just with that.

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Baby yoda can and does carry the show

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Good solid popcorn show. That is all I have to say.

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It good

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Trying to torrent the whole thing bundled up but looks like it’s gonna take forever. Probably wayyy faster to do individual episodes but I’m too lazy :stahp
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What quality?

Don Rumata

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Baby yoda can and does carry the show
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Maybe they should kill off that sorry excuse for a main character, and just focus on Baby Yoda then, Lucas would love it.

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6 episodes in.
This thing has amazing production values, cgi and practical effects are among the best i've seen in a tv show... and it's like watching paint dry, WTF.
I'll refrain from further comments until i'm done with the last 2 episodes, but i'm starting to think that Star Wars is cursed.

EDIT: Yeah, Baby Yoda is cute af, but you can't carry a show just with that.
RLM is right, Star Wars is a fluke and The Empire Strikes Back is the lynchpin that holds the thing together.

Star Wars only ever existed in George Lucas's head. There's no rules and thus everyone has their own intreperation of Star Wars and what it is.
And none of that matches what George had in mind as he wanted to create drama not action or adventure. So what Disney gets is various interpretations of Star Wars from different film makers.
From The Mandalorian to The Last Jedi, no matter how much they look for something that connects it all, there simply is no connection.

George however, was also great at pretending he had Star Wars completely mapped out and it all made sense.
All he did with the prequels was to go back in time and fill in the plot holes and missing lore but by doing so the whole thing makes even less sense.
And once he found out how lucky he had been he just said: "Oh well, this doesn't have to make sense as I'm making movies for chlidren"

Rian Johnson deserves some credit for being the first director they hired to figure this out.
He went as far as to claim in the movie itself that the 'Star Wars' were a racket and the Jedi order was a fraud.
Favreau decided to create his own lore and story within the Star Wars universe and that works surprisingly well.

I kinda feel bad for Disney at this point, they're still trying to figure out what Star Wars is and the answer is staring them right in the face.
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I kinda feel bad for Disney at this point, they're still trying to figure out what Star Wars is and the answer is staring them right in the face.
I mean, Mandalorian (so far) is boring as shit because there are no characters, and the only one (Mando) is a boring cardboard with invincible armor (plz don't steal!) that does nothing but walk around and be a moron.

The issue here is that they get to work on the license, and suddenly think every other facet of decent storytelling doesn't matter anymore because it's Star Wars.
They throw in Tattooine, ATSTs this and that and the other thing, and forget to start from the beginning, tell a story that has merit, with characters that evolve throughout etc etc.
I mentioned a curse as a joke, but it's not really that hard to see where the problem lies: The license is making them (creatively) lazy, and is used as a crutch.

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the season finale was good

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i hope mando bangs gina carano
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Rman

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6 episodes in.
This thing has amazing production values, cgi and practical effects are among the best i've seen in a tv show... and it's like watching paint dry, WTF.
I'll refrain from further comments until i'm done with the last 2 episodes, but i'm starting to think that Star Wars is cursed.

EDIT: Yeah, Baby Yoda is cute af, but you can't carry a show just with that.
RLM is right, Star Wars is a fluke and The Empire Strikes Back is the lynchpin that holds the thing together.

Star Wars only ever existed in George Lucas's head. There's no rules and thus everyone has their own intreperation of Star Wars and what it is.
And none of that matches what George had in mind as he wanted to create drama not action or adventure. So what Disney gets is various interpretations of Star Wars from different film makers.
From The Mandalorian to The Last Jedi, no matter how much they look for something that connects it all, there simply is no connection.

George however, was also great at pretending he had Star Wars completely mapped out and it all made sense.
All he did with the prequels was to go back in time and fill in the plot holes and missing lore but by doing so the whole thing makes even less sense.
And once he found out how lucky he had been he just said: "Oh well, this doesn't have to make sense as I'm making movies for chlidren"

Rian Johnson deserves some credit for being the first director they hired to figure this out.
He went as far as to claim in the movie itself that the 'Star Wars' were a racket and the Jedi order was a fraud.
Favreau decided to create his own lore and story within the Star Wars universe and that works surprisingly well.

I kinda feel bad for Disney at this point, they're still trying to figure out what Star Wars is and the answer is staring them right in the face.

SW is a fluke? Even with two mediocre followup trilogies, it's a massive franchise still.  It's not a Pokemon or MCU, but it's a huge moneymaker overall.

Honestly, I think the biggest issue with it is that fans expect too much from space wizards.  This is why I think this show is the best distillation of the universe and property. It stays in lane and doesn't try to be anything more than that.

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SW is a fluke? Even with two mediocre followup trilogies, it's a massive franchise still.  It's not a Pokemon or MCU, but it's a huge moneymaker overall.

Honestly, I think the biggest issue with it is that fans expect too much from space wizards.  This is why I think this show is the best distillation of the universe and property. It stays in lane and doesn't try to be anything more than that.
Except it doesn't do anything beside show some cool creatures, this is exactly the problem.
Being Star Wars doesn't supersede the need to have a plot, characters with a modicum of depth and an arc, and every other structural basis you'd have for any adventure story.

Having now seen the last two episodes, i don't think the Mandalorian delivers on that front.

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This show felt so boring, because Mando has little to no personality, barely any backstory, no friends, no enemies, no drive and no purpose.

He's a blank slate from beginning to end, despite a vague attachment to Baby Yoda, entirely because "he's cute".
He's got an extremely cookie cutter past shared with billions of people across the galaxy given The Empire's track record.
He's got no particular skill, beyond his meme armor, he mostly walks and shoots (with dubious accuracy) and makes stupid decisions over and over.
He's got no particular growth (he starts as the noble faceless dude, and that's exactly how he ends the season, but with an added Jetpack).
And despite the show's implications, he certainly doesn't come off as a bad ass.

Beyond Mando, the show doesn't really have any other character who's personality is anything more than a superficial quirk and a cool design, and the plot itself is just carrying around a macguffin for 8 episodes, while some faceless (because you don't see the real bad guy until the last 20 minutes) evil wants it for no clear reason.

When you look at it, it's really nothing more than a collection of beautiful props and effects, with some boringly shot action thrown on top (the ATST chase in the forest, and the Tie fighter fight, were probably the only cool set pieces).

Which for Star Wars, is unfortunately incredibly standard affair.

They probably watched 2012's DREDD and thought "hey, this is what Mandalorian should be!", but then stretched it into 8 hours, removed any grit, neutered his character, and shot it with that really bland action that was present in the old Sta Wars movies (whenever a lightsaber or a space ship wasn't on screen).

There are many specific moments i'd like to go over in detail, to point out how they constantly undermine the dramatic potential of a situation, with stupid choices, but tbh  :no1curr so i'll leave it at that.
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Tasty

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Without the SW trappings this would be snore-city.

But with the SW stuff it's the best SW thing in forever so it gets a pass.

Nintex

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6 episodes in.
This thing has amazing production values, cgi and practical effects are among the best i've seen in a tv show... and it's like watching paint dry, WTF.
I'll refrain from further comments until i'm done with the last 2 episodes, but i'm starting to think that Star Wars is cursed.

EDIT: Yeah, Baby Yoda is cute af, but you can't carry a show just with that.
RLM is right, Star Wars is a fluke and The Empire Strikes Back is the lynchpin that holds the thing together.

Star Wars only ever existed in George Lucas's head. There's no rules and thus everyone has their own intreperation of Star Wars and what it is.
And none of that matches what George had in mind as he wanted to create drama not action or adventure. So what Disney gets is various interpretations of Star Wars from different film makers.
From The Mandalorian to The Last Jedi, no matter how much they look for something that connects it all, there simply is no connection.

George however, was also great at pretending he had Star Wars completely mapped out and it all made sense.
All he did with the prequels was to go back in time and fill in the plot holes and missing lore but by doing so the whole thing makes even less sense.
And once he found out how lucky he had been he just said: "Oh well, this doesn't have to make sense as I'm making movies for chlidren"

Rian Johnson deserves some credit for being the first director they hired to figure this out.
He went as far as to claim in the movie itself that the 'Star Wars' were a racket and the Jedi order was a fraud.
Favreau decided to create his own lore and story within the Star Wars universe and that works surprisingly well.

I kinda feel bad for Disney at this point, they're still trying to figure out what Star Wars is and the answer is staring them right in the face.

SW is a fluke? Even with two mediocre followup trilogies, it's a massive franchise still.  It's not a Pokemon or MCU, but it's a huge moneymaker overall.

Honestly, I think the biggest issue with it is that fans expect too much from space wizards.  This is why I think this show is the best distillation of the universe and property. It stays in lane and doesn't try to be anything more than that.
ANH was good but it was the right product at the right time.
ESB is a legit great movie, the best Star Wars movie by a mile.
ROTJ it started to get stale then, a second Death Star? Nothing to do for Han and Leia but be soldiers? The ending as we now know meant nothing.

The prequels.... ROTS is seen as the best of the bunch. The new Disney trilogy? TFA is a soft and safe reboot, TLJ didn't fit in and TROS is a rushed mess, a fun film but a rushed mess.
The first three tell a coherent story, the other six basically don't. Disney added an uninteresting Solo backstory, a decent war movie (Rogue One) and finally The Mandalorian, which has a cool Saturday morning cartoon vibe.

Star Wars lived on in the video games and the toys but for the most part it was dumb nonsense in a universe that Lucas went back retconned and edited so it made even less sense as time passed.
Unlike other fantasy universes such as LOTR it constantly breaks its own rules. There's nothing holding it together as even the 'prophecy' the whole thing is based on turned out to be bullshit.
Star Wars is basically a clean slate that allows filmmakers to create their own thing but without boundaries or rules it all feels disconnected.
And when you write yourself in a ditch you can always resort back to 'The Force' or 'Hyperspace' to save your scene.

In the 70's and 80's Lucas, Ford, Fisher and the others smoked weed and made these fun space movies.
In the 00's a Lucas 20 years older made movies about topics he was interested in at the time (politics/cloning/relationships) and called them 'kids movies' while mostly being interested in pioneering digital film making and CGI.
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Just finished episode 1. I liked it. It's Star Wars. It's also clearly a western, which I'm also down for. I miss Firefly.

Trying to torrent the whole thing bundled up but looks like it’s gonna take forever. Probably wayyy faster to do individual episodes but I’m too lazy :stahp
The only reliable, non-registry required s1 version I could find has the bottom 20% of the image corrupted. Watchable, but still a distracting PITA.

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Where are u fuckers downloading from, friggin piratebay?

If you need some deets on a legit torrent place just hit me up I have some spare invites jeesh
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lulz, I didn't know there was Star Wars Holiday Special references in this. Automatically better than The Palpatine Awakens or whatever (which I haven't seen).
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Just finished episode 1. I liked it. It's Star Wars. It's also clearly a western, which I'm also down for. I miss Firefly.

Trying to torrent the whole thing bundled up but looks like it’s gonna take forever. Probably wayyy faster to do individual episodes but I’m too lazy :stahp
The only reliable, non-registry required s1 version I could find has the bottom 20% of the image corrupted. Watchable, but still a distracting PITA.
Where are u fuckers downloading from, friggin piratebay?

If you need some deets on a legit torrent place just hit me up I have some spare invites jeesh

The full season I found was perfect quality, and the site I use doesn’t need any invites or whatever :pimp
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lulz, I didn't know there was Star Wars Holiday Special references in this. Automatically better than The Palpatine Awakens or whatever (which I haven't seen).

I liked how the stormtroopers not being able to aim for shit was a running gag on the show.
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can't wait for disney to fuck this up in S2!

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It's funny that SW:TCW, a cartoon for children, had better writing than this blandness.

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I quite like Leone's Man with No Name character, but this show has too much filler and not enough story, and the first season goes nowhere. The Mandalorian receiving so much praise now speaks volumes about the awfulness of the Disney's prequel trilogy.
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