Have u ever felt less inclined to donate money then with the oz bushfires?

[bdoughty]

I was already destroyed by Cindi's comment. Nothing you could do would make it worse.

[Transhuman]

You just keep believing what you want.

(Yes).

[agrajag]

Greetings, liberal. Allow me to briefly strawman you to death with Greta Thunberg.

 

[OnlyRegret]

Believe what you will. I can posts articles showing the hockey stick graph was fraudulent, to which you would all claim are BS sites and then you have climategate which also involved the creator of the hockey stick graph Michael E Mann. Penn State exonerated him just as tried to do for Joe Paterno until the walls came crumbling down and they had to act. Of course Joe's son, who was a defender of his father was elected to the board of trustees in 2017 (how quickly the forget). You just keep believing what you want.

connecting environmentalists with child abusers

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/TPUSA/status/1215388976434991104

 

[bdoughty]

connecting environmentalists with child abusers

It was thing.

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/07/penn-state-climate-scientist-threatens-legal-action-over-sandusky-comparison-078852

Penn State University global warming researcher Michael Mann is lawyering up to counter attacks by conservatives who have referred to him as the “Jerry Sandusky of climate science.”

[Transhuman]

connecting environmentalists with child abusers

It was thing.

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/07/penn-state-climate-scientist-threatens-legal-action-over-sandusky-comparison-078852

Penn State University global warming researcher Michael Mann is lawyering up to counter attacks by conservatives who have referred to him as the “Jerry Sandusky of climate science.”

“Mann could be said to be the Jerry Sandusky of climate science, except that instead of molesting children, he has molested and tortured data in the service of politicized science that could have dire economic consequences for the nation and planet.”

-National Review

Yes, him being slandered by was "a thing", in the same sense that Pizzagate was a thing or that Climategate "was a thing". It doesn't mean any of these "things" have any truth to them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy

Where do you first read these conspiracy theories. Youtube? Conservative print media? 4chan? Genuinely curious.

[Great Rumbler]

Believe what you will.

It's not a "believe" issue, it's facts issue, breh. Two reviews by Penn State found that Mann did nothing wrong. The EPA found no evidence of wrong-doing. The IG of the Commerce Department found no evidence of wrong-doing. The OIG of the National Science Foundation found no evidence of wrong-doing. No actual investigations into the matter, as in not simply right-wing hit pieces, found there was anything inappropriate done. On the other hand, Mann's conclusions have been generally confirmed by multiple reconstructions in the years since his original "hockey stick" graph was published.

[bdoughty]

Where do you first read these conspiracy theories. Youtube? Conservative print media? 4chan? Genuinely curious.

Xhamster

[bdoughty]

It's not a "believe" issue, it's facts issue, breh. Two reviews by Penn State found that Mann did nothing wrong. The EPA found no evidence of wrong-doing. The IG of the Commerce Department found no evidence of wrong-doing. The OIG of the National Science Foundation found no evidence of wrong-doing. No actual investigations into the matter, as in not simply right-wing hit pieces, found there was anything inappropriate done. On the other hand, Mann's conclusions have been generally confirmed by multiple reconstructions in the years since his original "hockey stick" graph was published.

Sure, whatever floats your boat. Not here to change your opinion.

[Great Rumbler]

It's not a "believe" issue, it's facts issue, breh. Two reviews by Penn State found that Mann did nothing wrong. The EPA found no evidence of wrong-doing. The IG of the Commerce Department found no evidence of wrong-doing. The OIG of the National Science Foundation found no evidence of wrong-doing. No actual investigations into the matter, as in not simply right-wing hit pieces, found there was anything inappropriate done. On the other hand, Mann's conclusions have been generally confirmed by multiple reconstructions in the years since his original "hockey stick" graph was published.

Sure, whatever floats your boat. Not here to change your opinion.

This is why people think conservatives are stupid.

[bdoughty]

This is why people think conservatives are stupid.

or why people think liberalism is a mental disorder. A body of peers calling something fact it must be true. Science never lies and is never wrong.   

[Mr Gilhaney]

It's facts that are wrong

[agrajag]

fuck you science, you lying piece of shit!

 

[nachobro]

science has a pretty good track record

[Great Rumbler]

This is why people think conservatives are stupid.

or why people think liberalism is a mental disorder. A body of peers calling something fact it must be true. Science never lies and is never wrong.   

You have nothing. You are a paper tiger with no substance. All your fancy emperor clothes are nothing but cheap paper smeared with elephant feces. Wallow in your ignorance if you must, but don't try to step to me again, kid.

[bdoughty]

Pluto, planet? Not a planet? How hard is this?

[bdoughty]

You have nothing. You are a paper tiger with no substance. All your fancy emperor clothes are nothing but cheap paper smeared with elephant feces. Wallow in your ignorance if you must, but don't try to step to me again, kid.

[Mr Gilhaney]

Vaccines too

[Great Rumbler]

Pluto, planet? Not a planet? How hard is this?

Woah, it's almost like what is and is not a planet is based on a definition determined by scientific consensus and Pluto has more in common with the dozens of dwarf planets, trans-Neptunian objects, and other minor planetoids that exist in the solar system than it does the 8 traditional planets therefore it makes more sense to classify Pluto differently rather than arbitrarily continuing to call it a planet when multiple other objects in the solar system end up being left out of that classification.

[bdoughty]

Woah, it's almost like what is and is not a planet is based on a definition determined by scientific consensus and Pluto has more in common with the dozens of dwarf planets, trans-Neptunian objects, and other minor planetoids that exist in the solar system than it does the 8 traditional planets therefore it makes more sense to classify Pluto differently rather than arbitrarily continuing to call it a planet when multiple other objects in the solar system end up being left out of that classification.

So why the dissent? Debate? It's all so confusing.

https://www.space.com/pluto-planet-debate-2019-alan-stern-iau.html

[OnlyRegret]

There are no winners in this "argument"

[TVC15]

Pluto, planet? Not a planet? How hard is this?

It sounds like he has you here, Rumbler!

[Raist]

Pluto, planet? Not a planet? How hard is this?

Yes, because a small change in a completely arbitrary classification system based on more planetary bodies being discovered and highlighting that such classification system may have been slightly wrong is the example you want to go for here to argue that global warming isn't a thing, you muppet.

[jorma]

https://twitter.com/TPUSA/status/1215388976434991104

 

“TPUSA could be said to be the Jerry Sandusky of climate science, except that in addition to molesting children, they have molested and tortured data in the service of politicized science that could have dire economic consequences for the nation and planet.”

-National Review

[Himu]

I was already destroyed by Cindi's comment. Nothing you could do would make it worse.

Huh?

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/TPUSA/status/1215388976434991104

 

This is all conservatives ever do.

Whataboutism.

Always deflect.

Always point.

Always suggest.

Only ever be about "owning the libs".

Anti-intellectualism for the sake of it. They have no points, no arguments, no solutions WHAT SO EVER.

A barf bag of ideology that sees itself to have the depth of Kantian ethics.

People whose philosophy is to always stick their fingers in their ears and are seemingly PROUD of it. Good God, I loathe them. The six or so months I interpolated as a conservative were some of the worst months of my life. Such backwards, bottom feeding, shit eaters.

The dog poop of political spectrums. Put it in a paper bag and set it on fire, PLEASE.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/TPUSA/status/1215388976434991104

 

This is all conservatives ever do.

Whataboutism.

Always deflect.

Always point.

Always suggest.

Only ever be about "owning the libs".

Anti-intellectualism for the sake of it. They have no points, no arguments, no solutions WHAT SO EVER.

A barf bag of ideology that sees itself to have the depth of Kantian ethics.

People whose philosophy is to always stick their fingers in their ears and are seemingly PROUD of it. Good God, I loathe them. The six or so months I interpolated as a conservative were some of the worst months of my life. Such backwards, bottom feeding, shit eaters.

The dog poop of political spectrums. Put it in a paper bag and set it on fire, PLEASE.

haha we triggered another lib #winning

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/1216503910916968448

[Potato]

I don't understand why people from overseas are donating?

We are a first world country and people have insurance. We have well funded emergency recovery agencies and most charities are well supported already.

It's all just performative bullshit.

If you want to donate to a good cause, find a charity that supports people in the third world or something.

[Transhuman]

Like the Fred Hollows foundation

Jesus cured blindness and so can you

[thisismyusername]

I don't understand why people from overseas are donating?

We are a first world country and people have insurance. We have well funded emergency recovery agencies and most charities are well supported already.

It's all just performative bullshit.

If you want to donate to a good cause, find a charity that supports people in the third world or something.

It's more donating so you get water/etc. for the firefighters. So they don't have to pay for it while combating the fires. Similar to how folks donate to hurricane relief to get water/food/etc. there for folks that need it.

[Transhuman]

I don't understand why people from overseas are donating?

We are a first world country and people have insurance. We have well funded emergency recovery agencies and most charities are well supported already.

It's all just performative bullshit.

If you want to donate to a good cause, find a charity that supports people in the third world or something.

It's more donating so you get water/etc. for the firefighters. So they don't have to pay for it while combating the fires. Similar to how folks donate to hurricane relief to get water/food/etc. there for folks that need it.

I think the Firefighters would prefer the government ensures they don't keel over from thirst rather than leaving it up to the kindness of strangers to be honest.

The more this hurts the government financially, the more they'll do to prevent it happening again.

[Potato]

I don't understand why people from overseas are donating?

We are a first world country and people have insurance. We have well funded emergency recovery agencies and most charities are well supported already.

It's all just performative bullshit.

If you want to donate to a good cause, find a charity that supports people in the third world or something.

It's more donating so you get water/etc. for the firefighters. So they don't have to pay for it while combating the fires. Similar to how folks donate to hurricane relief to get water/food/etc. there for folks that need it.

Completely unnecessary and already funded by the government.

[thisismyusername]

I don't understand why people from overseas are donating?

We are a first world country and people have insurance. We have well funded emergency recovery agencies and most charities are well supported already.

It's all just performative bullshit.

If you want to donate to a good cause, find a charity that supports people in the third world or something.

It's more donating so you get water/etc. for the firefighters. So they don't have to pay for it while combating the fires. Similar to how folks donate to hurricane relief to get water/food/etc. there for folks that need it.

Completely unnecessary and already funded by the government.

*shrug* I'm just giving the logic.

Hurricanes, for instance, take a shit ton of money in regards to building places, food, shelter, etc. Insurance alone (and the Government alone) won't cover all of that. So providing water for the firefighters out of donations in theory allows the government to pay for the funerals of the lost fire-fighters, compensation for the family of said lost firefighters, and the like.

[team filler]

I don't understand why people from overseas are donating?

We are a first world country and people have insurance. We have well funded emergency recovery agencies and most charities are well supported already.

It's all just performative bullshit.

If you want to donate to a good cause, find a charity that supports people in the third world or something.

It's more donating so you get water/etc. for the firefighters. So they don't have to pay for it while combating the fires. Similar to how folks donate to hurricane relief to get water/food/etc. there for folks that need it.

I think the Firefighters would prefer the government ensures they don't keel over from thirst rather than leaving it up to the kindness of strangers to be honest.

The more this hurts the government financially, the more they'll do to prevent it happening again.

Go  Get em People - Lets Take these Fuckers Down

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/Cat_Torneros/status/1216408742486396928

how dare you, volcano!

[TVC15]

Feels like karma for my unrighteous banning from filipinocupid.com

[Potato]

Interesting story about the fundraising

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-14/celeste-barber-facebook-fundraiser-is-complicated/11861146

Asks and answers lots of relevant questions like:

• Where will the money go?
• What do donors want dome with the money?
• What did people think they were donating for?
• Can the money be divided up among different charities? (This is a really interesting question, because the deed of the trust says that it can't legally pass money on to other charities)

[agrajag]

I don't understand why people from overseas are donating?

We are a first world country and people have insurance. We have well funded emergency recovery agencies and most charities are well supported already.

It's all just performative bullshit.

If you want to donate to a good cause, find a charity that supports people in the third world or something.

It's more donating so you get water/etc. for the firefighters. So they don't have to pay for it while combating the fires. Similar to how folks donate to hurricane relief to get water/food/etc. there for folks that need it.

I think the Firefighters would prefer the government ensures they don't keel over from thirst rather than leaving it up to the kindness of strangers to be honest.

The more this hurts the government financially, the more they'll do to prevent it happening again.

that's socialism tho.

socialism = bad

crowdfunding water for fighters so they don't die = capitalism = good

[Potato]

that's socialism tho.

socialism = bad

crowdfunding water for fighters so they don't die = capitalism = good

Crowdfunding water for firefighters? Read the article I posted to see how absurd that comment is.

There is not a single firefighter in this country who has been left wanting for drinking water or food during this whole episode.

This is not the US, where people affected by natural disasters are abandoned in football stadiums and then arrested when they take food to stop their families from starving.

[agrajag]

this is all I know man, we rob pharmacies to get life saving drugs for our kids here

[Great Rumbler]

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/australia-fire-relief

[Huff]

i donated so i can ride in the helis to drop off carrots to all the cute little marsupials

[nachobro]

you'd figure firewatch would be a shoe-in for that bundle

[Mr Gilhaney]

[Tripon]

So if you think arson was the cause of so many fires in Australia, isn't then the response is to help mitigate the effects of climate change so people can't cause such a massive fire to destroy thousands of people lives?

[Great Rumbler]

So if you think arson was the cause of so many fires in Australia, isn't then the response is to help mitigate the effects of climate change so people can't cause such a massive fire to destroy thousands of people lives?

No, the fires being caused by arson means that climate change isn't real so let's roll some coal, baby.

[Potato]

Coal pays for my free health care and excellent standard of living. Thanks be to the coal God!

[naff]

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i swear aussie flies are the most persistent fuckers ive experienced. ive occasionally had a fly land on my face in nz or the states, but in straya it's fucking incessant.