Author Topic: Remember Ace of Base, my old dudes? (Read 5886 times)

Quote from: filler on January 19, 2020, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: EchoRin on January 19, 2020, 01:50:14 PM
Interesting history to this little band too, eh...

oh ho ho ho ho

https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america/

Wow.

nudemacusers · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:01:56 PM »

Quote from: EchoRin on January 19, 2020, 02:39:11 PM

Quote from: filler on January 19, 2020, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: EchoRin on January 19, 2020, 01:50:14 PM
Interesting history to this little band too, eh...

oh ho ho ho ho

https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america/

Yeah that was a crazy to read...

james · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:24:46 PM »

Quote from: EchoRin on January 19, 2020, 02:39:11 PM

Quote from: filler on January 19, 2020, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: EchoRin on January 19, 2020, 01:50:14 PM
Interesting history to this little band too, eh...

oh ho ho ho ho

https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america/

What an absolute load of garbage.

Eagle = nazi now?

Why does this author hate America

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:26:27 PM »

crapped.com still exists

Trurl · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:33:57 PM »

Ace of Base is old and shitty.

I'll listen to Tal Bachman instead.

Trurl · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:36:07 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:40:54 PM »

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Actually, that they have ties to the neo-Nazi movement isn't in dispute, or at all a secret. A few years ago, Vice music editor Ben Shapiro wrote an article that revealed that Ace of Base founder Ulf Ekberg was once in a Nazi punk band called Commit Suiside.

Kara · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:45:07 PM »

It's not that Ben Shapiro.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:45:31 PM »

#CancelAceofBase

nudemacusers · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:46:57 PM »

Quote from: Kara on January 19, 2020, 03:45:07 PM

It's not that Ben Shapiro.

Can’t be too sure

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:59:49 PM »

I watched Goldeneye recently and remembered they almost did the theme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Juvenile

thisismyusername · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2020, 05:35:45 PM »

Quote from: EchoRin on January 19, 2020, 02:39:11 PM

Quote from: filler on January 19, 2020, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: EchoRin on January 19, 2020, 01:50:14 PM
Interesting history to this little band too, eh...

oh ho ho ho ho

https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/24/ace-of-base-nazi-past-lyrics_n_3148797.html

Nazi's with IBM, Hugo Boss, and Ace of Base.

Kara · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2020, 05:48:11 PM »

Coca-Cola is another good one. Adds an ironic wrinkle to one of my favorite movies (One, Two, Three).

EchoRin · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2020, 05:49:39 PM »

Gotta drink my Fanta

thisismyusername · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2020, 06:31:44 PM »

Quote from: Kara on January 19, 2020, 05:48:11 PM

Coca-Cola is another good one. Adds an ironic wrinkle to one of my favorite movies (One, Two, Three).

Didn't even realize. That's a new one for me.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #23 on:** January 19, 2020, 06:45:47 PM »

Weird topic to see pop up.

"All That She Wants" has been an earworm stuck in my head for the past week and I have no idea how it got there.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #24 on:** January 19, 2020, 06:47:14 PM »

Quote from: Trurl on January 19, 2020, 03:33:57 PM

Ace of Base is old and shitty.

I'll listen to Tal Bachman instead.

Don't know if this was a joke but this might be my most hated song.

team filler · « **Reply #25 on:** January 19, 2020, 07:01:37 PM »

Quote from: Dickie Dee on January 19, 2020, 06:45:47 PM

Weird topic to see pop up.

"All That She Wants" has been an earworm stuck in my head for the past week and I have no idea how it got there.

Coax · « **Reply #26 on:** January 19, 2020, 08:40:34 PM »

Quote from: EchoRin on January 19, 2020, 02:39:11 PM

https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america/

Has some interesting and somewhat compelling points (the title track's English lyrics being probably the best example) though much is written with such conjecture it's hard to take everything it presents seriously.

Was curious and ended up wasting some time poking around.

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Ulf Ekberg, said to be part of a neo-Nazi band in the 80s and was a late band change in Ace of Base who'd been together for years prior without him under different names according to Vice, claims in an interview from 2013 that only two of total tracks contained in the unearthed demos (published in a 1998 limited run) were by his band, while the others containing the neo-Nazi lyrics were neither written or performed by his band. Either way he comes across as apologetic in such interviews and there's a surfaced photo of what appears to be a young Ekberg still seen making the Hitler salute so seems he had some questionable history.

Clicked the Wikipedia article the piece sources for the Hebrew/Latin lyrics translation and it's no longer present. The wiki edits show that section was added just a few months prior to the article being published and later removed due to the cited link not actually including anything about the stated translation. Searched for the lines posted by Cracked.com verbatim and only a handful of results were returned, including the Cracked.com piece, pages quoting it subsequently and a couple SEO spam results. While trying to find more about this came across a Stormfront result mentioning translations where ironically posters weren't convinced of the alleged association and multiple, entirely different translations in Latin and Hebrew were posted sourced from Youtube comments and elsewhere.

On the track speculated by the piece to be about a woman wanting a baby entirely for welfare support reasons it seems a) the full lyrics don't suggest that and b) the 'baby' in the chorus seems to have been interpreted as a literal baby by only the author of the article (other songs of theirs use 'baby' non-literally as does the song they were inspired by for the sound of the track). The writer of the song has also stated it refers to a partner.

At the end makes the stretch that the album was renamed for the NA release to The Sign for rather nebulous presumptions related to Rupert Murdoch owning the label that published the album in Europe.

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The Vice piece related to this OTOH only focuses on Ekberg, which at least could be more substantiated but it's still an interesting discussion.

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Missed one of the best takes that could have tied it together, from a tongue-in-cheek response to the Cracked piece

Quote from: Stormfront

I guess "the sign" is a swastika.

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #27 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:02:29 PM »

tl;dr Ulf Ekberg was in a neo-Nazi band in the 80s [when he was a young teenager] and had Nazi leanings, though has since apologized and continues to do so [the first mention of has past actually dates back to 1993], but most of the stuff in the Cracked.com article is a big stretch.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #28 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:10:04 PM »

tl;dr: Nazi's had some absolute bangers (Hugo Boss outfits, IBM/computers, Ace of Base/EDM music, Coca-Cola [cocaine in my soda]). Too bad they were losers.

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Let's see how many folks take my sarcasm seriously.

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #29 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:10:45 PM »

wow look at this nazi over here

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #30 on:** January 19, 2020, 10:36:27 PM »

It’s cracked.com so you should assume it’s bullshit unless they can provide a legitimate source that’s not cracked.com

EchoRin · « **Reply #31 on:** January 19, 2020, 11:02:51 PM »

I mean the Cracked article is mostly a comedy piece that exaggerates (which has been a Cracked shtick for the longest time). I was mainly pointing to the member Ulf and his background.

TVC15 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2020, 12:24:18 AM »

Remember seanbaby

EchoRin · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2020, 12:30:48 AM »

Quote from: TVC15 on January 20, 2020, 12:24:18 AM

Remember seanbaby

Ya. He really has it out for Phil Collins. Calls his album "No Jacket Required", "No Talent Required".

Oh wow. I looked up his site. He still writes for Cracked too. Huh.

Kara · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2020, 12:33:00 AM »

Quote from: TVC15 on January 20, 2020, 12:24:18 AM

Remember seanbaby

Tuckers Law · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2020, 02:11:07 AM »

Man that takes me back. It's funny, over a decade later and the GFW radio podcast episode with crispin is still one of the funniest conversations I've ever listened to. I always remembered thinking if crispin or seanbaby were on a podcast it was going to be a good listen.

nudemacusers · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2020, 03:19:26 AM »

Quote from: Dickie Dee on January 19, 2020, 06:47:14 PM

Quote from: Trurl on January 19, 2020, 03:33:57 PM
Ace of Base is old and shitty.

I'll listen to Tal Bachman instead.

Don't know if this was a joke but this might be my most hated song.

All that mid-late 90s sensitive dude alt rock is just straight garbaggio. 🤮

samir · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2020, 05:54:09 AM »

Roxette yo

Potato · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2020, 06:09:58 AM »

That cracked article is wild. So much bullshit wrapped up in intrusive advertising. If you believe any of that crap, you might just be a complete fucking moron.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #39 on:** January 20, 2020, 06:42:58 AM »

Quote from: samir on January 20, 2020, 05:54:09 AM

Roxette yo

Woah hold on there buddy. Roxette may have been known for making infectious pop hits in the 80s and early 90s but did you know that they performed concerts in Germany, a country known for harboring actual and literal Nazis? Did Roxette ever bother to ensure that no Nazis were allowed to buy their albums, go to their concerts, or listen to them on the radio? I thought so. This band is full of Nazi enablers. If you like or listen to their music, you are supporting the third reich.

~ cracked.com

Don Rumata · « **Reply #40 on:** January 20, 2020, 07:05:31 AM »

Nevermind them.

SmokyDave · « **Reply #41 on:** January 20, 2020, 07:19:43 AM »

I do remember them. I remember ignoring them and listening to Beats International featuring Lindy Layton instead:

Now that's how you do it properly.

Shuri · « **Reply #42 on:** January 20, 2020, 08:07:21 AM »

I believe the blonde sister in Ace of Base developed extreme anxiety issues due to the sudden fame, and when they would perform in live shows she would sing from backstage or behind a curtain. Poor her.

That nazi article starts interesting with the guy’s background but quickly turns into total- doge

I kinda miss that early to mid nineties euro dance sound. It was so catchy. I kinda feel bad for today’s youth who is growing with k-pop and that super Awkward, forever trapped in 2002 american pop sound.

I realize the irony of being nostalgic of early nineties dance music while complaining about the backward style of kpop, yes

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #43 on:** January 20, 2020, 08:28:31 AM »

It's all junk food. No need to draw lines between any of them.

It has a function and it serves the audience that only cares about a beat and a hook.

Rman · « **Reply #44 on:** January 20, 2020, 09:54:02 AM »

Quote from: Potato on January 20, 2020, 06:09:58 AM

That cracked article is wild. So much bullshit wrapped up in intrusive advertising. If you believe any of that crap, you might just be a complete fucking moron.

Yeah after reading a few paragraphs I finally got the joke lol.

TVC15 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 20, 2020, 12:10:14 PM »

Quote from: Shuri on January 20, 2020, 08:07:21 AM

I believe the blonde sister in Ace of Base developed extreme anxiety issues due to the sudden fame, and when they would perform in live shows she would sing from backstage or behind a curtain. Poor her.

That nazi article starts interesting with the guy’s background but quickly turns into total- doge

I kinda miss that early to mid nineties euro dance sound. It was so catchy. I kinda feel bad for today’s youth who is growing with k-pop and that super Awkward, forever trapped in 2002 american pop sound.

I realize the irony of being nostalgic of early nineties dance music while complaining about the backward style of kpop, yes

The early 90s were really where it all went wrong. In an alternate timeline, Jesus Jones and EMF were the next Nirvana, and in that universe’s 2020 there’s full-on worldwide communism, with gulags and death panels and shit. The dude from PM Dawn is in charge of school lunches.

Potato · « **Reply #46 on:** January 21, 2020, 04:54:27 AM »

Is this now a 90s dance-pop thread?

Potato · « **Reply #47 on:** January 21, 2020, 04:56:19 AM »

MMaRsu · « **Reply #48 on:** January 21, 2020, 04:57:16 AM »

Potato · « **Reply #49 on:** January 21, 2020, 04:57:28 AM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #50 on:** January 21, 2020, 09:13:26 AM »

MMaRsu · « **Reply #51 on:** January 21, 2020, 09:20:25 AM »

BIONIC · « **Reply #52 on:** January 21, 2020, 09:32:34 AM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on January 21, 2020, 04:57:16 AM

You posted the wrong version, my dude:

Himu · « **Reply #53 on:** January 21, 2020, 10:40:56 AM »

Yo a lot of the music being posted here like Roxxxete is total garbage and the face I have while listening is one of disgust.

The most prominent neo Nazi singer I can think of is Nico, who also did an album with Velvet Underground.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #54 on:** January 21, 2020, 12:35:15 PM »

Ive seen Roxette live, great show.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #55 on:** January 21, 2020, 03:59:12 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on January 21, 2020, 10:40:56 AM

Roxxxete is total garbage

RIP

Himu · « **Reply #56 on:** January 21, 2020, 04:05:57 PM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on January 21, 2020, 03:59:12 PM

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on January 21, 2020, 10:40:56 AM
Roxxxete is total garbage

RIP

I'm not saying Roxxete is garbage. I like them. I'm saying that specific song, It Must Have Been Love, as well as other songs by Tal whatever, are total garbage.

Definitely a bad era of music history.

Thank fuck for gangsta rap and shit like Smashing Pumpkins.

paprikastaude · « **Reply #57 on:** January 21, 2020, 07:10:00 PM »

growing up in the 90s

TVC15 · « **Reply #58 on:** January 21, 2020, 07:11:11 PM »

Nico? Neo nazi? She was born in the 30s! What’s this neo shit? She has legit Nazi cred!

Himu · « **Reply #59 on:** January 21, 2020, 08:18:35 PM »

Quote from: TVC15 on January 21, 2020, 07:11:11 PM

Nico? Neo nazi? She was born in the 30s! What’s this neo shit? She has legit Nazi cred!

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Author Topic: Remember Ace of Base, my old dudes? (Read 5886 times)