I gave up coffee for now, boys. I'm having crazy withdrawal symptons

[Rman]

Headaches, drowsiness, waking up mid-night.

Man...

And I only drink two cups per day, but I've been drinking coffee since a teen. And am an old millennial now.  However, my energy levels are slowly improving. Could be placebo/nocebo BS tho.

I think I'll go back to coffee in time.  Just doing a reset of sorts.

[TEEEPO]

why do this? 

[bork]

Did you just give it up cold-turkey?  Maybe slowly ween off of it instead?

I did this once for a couple of years and it only felt bad for a week or so.

[Great Rumbler]

If you're having withdrawal symptoms, try consuming more caffeine.

[Rman]

Did you just give it up cold-turkey?  Maybe slowly ween off of it instead?

I did this once for a couple of years and it only felt bad for a week or so.

Cold turkey.

I'll be back tho.  Still the first week. 

Why I quit for now?

[TVC15]

You’re not going to be able to take dumps. You won’t last long. It gets weird after a few days.

[BisMarckie]

You’re not going to be able to take dumps.

You could start smoking to alleviate this issue

[Rman]

You’re not going to be able to take dumps.

You could start smoking to alleviate this issue

Not a weed guy.  Tons of weed smoking friends. Never got into.  I do like Cigars tho.  Makes me feel classy.

[CatsCatsCats]

Right now I’m winding my caffeine use down by replacing my lovely coffee with gross cheap Kroger black tea

[TVC15]

You’re not going to be able to take dumps.

You could start smoking to alleviate this issue

I actually tried that. It was towards the end of it so it may have worked, but I don’t think the conjuring happened until well after the cigarette so I can’t really give it credit.

[TEEEPO]

Glycogen, the muscle's primary fuel source during exercise, is replenished more rapidly when athletes ingest both carbohydrate and caffeine following exhaustive exercise, new research shows. Athletes who ingested caffeine with carbohydrate had 66 percent more glycogen in their muscles four hours after finishing intense, glycogen-depleting exercise, compared to when they consumed carbohydrate alone, according to the study.

on the flipside, start depleting your glycogen storage so you could put that caffeine to use

[TVC15]

It’s also going to be this rock hard, dried-out piece of pumice when it comes out. It does not feel pleasant.

[team filler]

good coffee took me from hating the zionists to supporting one for president 

[TEEEPO]

cold brew with beans from a manual burr grindr

[TVC15]

cold brew is the only coffee I drink these days, esp in the butt

[TEEEPO]

butt stuff

[Himu]

Did you just give it up cold-turkey?  Maybe slowly ween off of it instead?

I did this once for a couple of years and it only felt bad for a week or so.

Cold turkey.

I'll be back tho.  Still the first week. 

Why I quit for now?

None of this explain why quit drinking coffee. If you're going to quit anything, just stop putting milk and sugar in your coffee and drink it black.

[Cerveza mas fina]

U quit coffee because of a youtube vid?

[Himu]

U quit coffee because of a youtube vid?

A vapid youtube vid at that.

At the very least should have brought up yesterday's Fresh Air.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/02/10/803394030/michael-pollan-explains-caffeine-cravings-and-why-you-dont-have-to-quit

[naff]

vapid? it was just a vid succinctly explaining the basic scientific effects of caffeine on the brain and neurotransmitters without saying anything either way in terms of whether you should use it.

rman decided he wanted to stop fucking with his adenosine receptors and be less flushed w adrenaline and dopamine I guess.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Idk people drink coffee to be more awake, this is known

The vid is like "hey coffee keeps u awake and alert"

Where is the news?

[Himu]

vapid? it was just a vid succinctly explaining the basic scientific effects of caffeine on the brain and neurotransmitters without saying anything either way in terms of whether you should use it.

rman decided he wanted to stop fucking with his adenosine receptors and be less flushed w adrenaline and dopamine I guess.

the video is stupid and pointless as fuck.

it's vapid

[team filler]

the vid would be p convincing if I was a everyday coffee drinker 

[Cerveza mas fina]

Why are u drinking coffee if not to be more awake

[naff]

Idk people drink coffee to be more awake, this is known

The vid is like "hey coffee keeps u awake and alert"

Where is the news?

i learnt that consistent caffeine consumption increases the number of adenosine receptors over time, and that the inhibition of adenosine on those receptors is the way it keeps you awake. it also explained why with continued use you essentially need to drink more caffeine to get the same hit as you did when you first started. i read a study a while ago that looked into how caffeine affects your natural cortisol levels. drinking when you wake up starts to inhibit the natural burst you get in the morning, but waiting til 11am or so when your natural levels dip keeps you "up", and how too much beyond what you're used to can stimulate abnormally high cortisol levels essentially recreating a stress response going beyond giving you energy, likely causing anxiety and lack of focus. that manic feeling.

[naff]

i probably drink too much caffeine, but i don't think it's bad for me really, but very noticeable when i've gone a little overboard for sure. when im on holiday i often quit for a bit to get my brain back to some kind of baseline and i quite like how low key i feel. i also notice how much stronger the hit is when i go back to it.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Oh ok i knew all that by drinking coffee for 20 years

[naff]

anecdotally i understood the effects. i didn't understand the science behind caffeine being an adenosine antagonist.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I guess I didnt know the technical terms either

I remember i used to drink 15 cups a day and had bad withrawal symptoms on the weekends when not working, headaches.

I still start my day with a coffee

Now i just try not to drink coffee after lunch and drink tea/herbs

[naff]

i very loosely modified my morning habits after learning a little more about how it affects cortisol levels. def helped cut down without seeming to affect my daily functioning
http://neurosciencedc.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-best-time-for-your-coffee.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2257922/
https://globalnews.ca/news/4258839/best-time-drink-coffee/

[Cerveza mas fina]

Thats interesting

[MMaRsu]

I stopped drinking 6/7 energy lights per day so good on you bro

[Occam]

Maybe I'm lucky, but I get no withdrawal symptoms when I stop my caffeine intake for a couple of days. I can drink it or leave it as I please. No craving, either. Is that unusual?

[VomKriege]

"Two cups" I take it it's not espresso.
Maybe switch for tea ? You'll get some of the same chemical agents (or not even that if you go for Rooibos) but it's less upsetting overall.

[Rman]

U quit coffee because of a youtube vid?

Nah. Just picked a random one.

Been feeling sleepy for a bit now.  So I have been doing some personal ab testing.  Withdrawal symptoms are abating, but I’m sleeping deeper weirdly.

Naff explained it.

I have espresso actually. Two cups of that.

[VomKriege]

Oh wow didn't expect two small cups (or absence of) would wreck you like that. Tea maybe not the best substitute then...

[skullstorm]

I've quit coffee twice, first time was absolute hell with the headaches etc. Second time was when I ended up in hospital with appendicitis, but before I knew what was going on I thought the stomach pain horrors were from coffee, because it started right after I'd finished a cup. In the hospital I didn't have coffee and I was drugged up so I wouldn't feel any pain from the appendicitis, but I also didn't feel any caffeine withdrawal headaches, pretty convenient way to quit.

I did eventually start drinking coffee again, I'm weak. I'd sometimes like to quit since it doesn't really do anything for me, it's just a habit, but I don't want the headaches and don't have access to an IV drip of heavy pain meds this time so nahh. I'll keep drinking it

[Rman]

Oh wow didn't expect two small cups (or absence of) would wreck you like that. Tea maybe not the best substitute then...

I think I'm very sensitive to caffeine. Some people have more tolerance for others less. 

For example, before this experiment, I tried black tea. I had it around 6 pm on a Sunday. I know rather late, but I didn't think it would mess me up that bad.  I could not sleep all night. I know black tea has caffeine, but I didn't' know it would affect me that bad.

[toku]

should just let the coffee kill you

[Joe Molotov]

inject Monster Ultra directly into your veins

[Cerveza mas fina]

Oh wow didn't expect two small cups (or absence of) would wreck you like that. Tea maybe not the best substitute then...

I think I'm very sensitive to caffeine. Some people have more tolerance for others less. 

For example, before this experiment, I tried black tea. I had it around 6 pm on a Sunday. I know rather late, but I didn't think it would mess me up that bad.  I could not sleep all night. I know black tea has caffeine, but I didn't' know it would affect me that bad.

Dang I understand your struggle now

I prob should cut back too even more

[Himu]

Damn. Don't blame you for quitting coffee then.

[chronovore]

Oh wow didn't expect two small cups (or absence of) would wreck you like that. Tea maybe not the best substitute then...

I think I'm very sensitive to caffeine. Some people have more tolerance for others less. 

For example, before this experiment, I tried black tea. I had it around 6 pm on a Sunday. I know rather late, but I didn't think it would mess me up that bad.  I could not sleep all night. I know black tea has caffeine, but I didn't' know it would affect me that bad.

I can drink strong black tea at midnight and go directly to sleep, but if I have coffee after 5PM I'll be awake until 2AM.
Maybe different types of caffeine (or the attendant other chemical in each) affect us differently.

[Fifstar]

Oh wow didn't expect two small cups (or absence of) would wreck you like that. Tea maybe not the best substitute then...

I think I'm very sensitive to caffeine. Some people have more tolerance for others less. 

For example, before this experiment, I tried black tea. I had it around 6 pm on a Sunday. I know rather late, but I didn't think it would mess me up that bad.  I could not sleep all night. I know black tea has caffeine, but I didn't' know it would affect me that bad.

I feel you. I remember back when I started to drink coffee (already was in my early thirties) I was restless and anxious for basically the whole day after drinking a single cup, basically what Naff wrote. Not even sure why I kept drinking coffee, because the feeling was really not so nice. Probably the taste and the shared social ritual (this was when I was writing my graduation work). Took me months to build up tolerance.

Even now, when I drink more than two coffees a day I will get extremly restless and can't fall sleep.

What's curious, I don't really feel like I get a boost in the morning from coffee or that I feel less awake if I miss my coffee. I kinda feel this is more some form of self-hypnosis. Like there is some effect from coffee that activates your cardiovascular-system, but I don't feel like my mind really gets going from coffee.

But what's great about coffee is that it really helped with my migraine. I definetly have less cases of migraine since dring coffee. Only problem: if I don't drink a coffee in the morning the chance for a headache actually seems to have increased.

Also regarding black tea I'm not sure if it's better than coffee regarding messing you up. At least a cup of black tea is comparable to a cup of  coffee for me (although the actual coffein intake should be definetely higher from coffee to tea). Just read up on wiki that coffein from tea is released in intestine compared to the gut for coffeine from coffee. Because of that, it takes longer for the coffeine to take effect and it lasts longer. This might be a reason why tea fucks more with your sleep if you drink a blck tea in the afternoon.

[Rman]

I'm wide awake in the morning now. Holy crap! And I only need 7 hours of sleep compared to my usual 8 now.  What a crazy experiment.  I thought I was just getting old lol.  No more morning grogginess.