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recursivelyenumerable

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I admit that I find the "simulation argument" fascinating to think about but what I always wondered is what distinguishes a "simulation" from a universe whose physics is sort of structured in something like abstraction layers as ours seems to be? i.e. can you say Newtonian physics is a "simulation" built on top of quantum field theory and general relativity which are "simulations" built on top of the true theory of quantum gravity and so on

and if not, then what exactly does need to hold for a given universe for it to be characterized as a simulation, is it just about the simulation having some creator with intentionality and so on ... or is it about the degree of integrity/isolation/leakiness of the simulation layers?

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QED

VomKriege

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Yup, it's nerd musings alright.
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toku

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It becomes a simulation when you become aware of another set of laws/physics/worlds that supersede or hold the currently viewed simulation in place.

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I admit that I find the "simulation argument" fascinating to think about but what I always wondered is what distinguishes a "simulation" from a universe whose physics is sort of structured in something like abstraction layers as ours seems to be? i.e. can you say Newtonian physics is a "simulation" built on top of quantum field theory and general relativity which are "simulations" built on top of the true theory of quantum gravity and so on

and if not, then what exactly does need to hold for a given universe for it to be characterized as a simulation, is it just about the simulation having some creator with intentionality and so on ... or is it about the degree of integrity/isolation/leakiness of the simulation layers?
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recursivelyenumerable

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yeah I haven't actually seen anyone else affect Zizekisms unironically (or even √2/2-ironically) so I thought I'd try and break new ground.
QED

Nintex

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Nothing goes undetected by me.

Am I monitoring the simulation?
Are we all monitoring the simulation?
Is your perception of me monitoring the simulation also the way monitor the simulation by itself?  :thinking
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recursivelyenumerable

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The answer can only be no to all of the above, because I haven't gotten around to implementing any observability features yet.
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But how can the simulation exist if no one or nothing can observe it.
Is it possible for something to exist if it cannot be observed by another entity?
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Look at this and tell me we ain't in a simulation:

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recursivelyenumerable

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But how can the simulation exist if no one or nothing can observe it.
Is it possible for something to exist if it cannot be observed by another entity?

they can observe that it exists, they just can't QA it for shit.
QED

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You can’t know a thing in itself or something

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we are all parallel tesseracts of a single asshole n-dimensional entity (where n > 3)

i am the projection of its utter dilettantry
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You can’t know a thing in itself or something
The first essay in this book goes over the necessary Kant stuff so hurry up and read Nick Land with me :rage
Alrighty, just give me a day or two to finish up what I’m on now and I’ll dive in