What's the official browser of the bore?

[toku]

idk how to do polls, I've been trying to switch to ff but i swear some sites just seem to work better in chrome idk how you copy that experience

[Nintex]

Officially I had to guess Netscape 1997

But I'm using Chrome and that seems to work well enough.

[EchoRin]

Firefox is my main. Chrome I use strictly for Netflix and Gmail/Hangouts (in firefox I'm signed in to a different Google account which is my email from another place which is attached to my youtube account from  long time ago). I also have Opera as a third for no particular reason. If some site seems to be off on Firefox I'll use Opera or Chrome.

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On android I also use Firefox as my main thanks to add-ons. uBlock Origin is a must and Chrome is dumb on android for not allowing extensions.
You must add "Chrome UA on Google for Firefox Android" to get a proper non-gimped Google.com experience on the firefox mobile browser. Otherwise Google themselves purposefully gimps it. You'll see. It works, but it's kinda shoddy without it.

[nachobro]

firefox for browsing, new edge for video, safari on mobile

[nachobro]

firefox and edge are faster than chrome on pc, at least for me. i do have chrome installed for chromecasting and remote desktop but i don't use it other than that.

and like you said, 3rd party browsers are a pain on ios so i don't bother

[Phoenix Dark]

I threw FF in the bushes a couple years ago for Chrome.

[EchoRin]

I always wonder why anyone doesn't just use Chrome.. because everyone who doesn't says stuff like "Well I have Chrome in case a web site doesn't work" and it brings me right back to the pain in the ass 00's when everyone was transitioning away from IE driven sites.

But I guess if FF is better on Android that makes some sense.   On iOS browsers are all kind of BS so I just use Safari.

I'd say that happens like once in a blue moon really. Often times if something seems busted on Firefox it's also busted elsewhere as it's a webpage issue rather than browser issue. But yeah, just in case you might as well have a back up browser.

But I think even if I was Chrome first I'd still have another browser just because my youtube account is a different email than my normal gmail one. And I'm not interested in switching between the two. Rather be always signed in. In this case I need two browsers anyway.

[toku]

only way to live these days is ff and then chrome/chromium for when you absolutely need it

That's basically what I was doing until I started getting that startup error which seemed tied to FF. Guess I'll be more persistent this time.

I am aware of https://vivaldi.com/ but haven't tried. I do keep BRAVE installed for fucking with Tor easy. Used to fuck around with waterfox as well: https://www.waterfox.net/

[EchoRin]

I got some weird issue with FF a few weeks back where it would give me some strange message about not finding the user. I tried to reinstall and everything and nothing worked. So I went. "Fuck it. Time to restore this laptop to factory settings"

The other weird thing. I could not get NFL or NHL official websites to play videos for like the last year before I did the full system restore. Didn't matter what browser. I was confused. Of course after I factory restored they now work on any browser. So who knows what that was all about. Maybe some weird driver update or something. Eh, it was good to factory reset anyway after like 3 years.

[nachobro]

time to return to the firefox family, friends

[toku]

do you use any sort of password management systems esch/riotous?

[EchoRin]

But I think even if I was Chrome first I'd still have another browser just because my youtube account is a different email than my normal gmail one. And I'm not interested in switching between the two. Rather be always signed in. In this case I need two browsers anyway.

Huh;  I just click my other login in the menu and have 2 gmail tabs open if I need it.

 
Let me see if that is satisfactory to me. Be back in a jiffy...

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Ya you're right. I can be signed in to both without having to reenter my password. Hmm. I suppose the only thing about having one account be default in one browser and the other in the other browser is that I'll never get confused for a second and be like "where are my subscriptions on youtube? Oh, I need to switch into the other account." It's a borderline BS nitpick on my part I fully admit. I guess I'll stick my old habit though It's good to know what you mentioned, Riotous.

[BisMarckie]

Firefox is the working man‘s browser

The only browser I kind of trust when it comes to privacy, even though it‘s not perfect in that regard either.

[Momo]

Using Brave for important stuff and Vivaldi for fun stuff these days, and Opera when I want to do region locked stuff.


Edit: All three these are basically chrome.

[Momo]

only way to live these days is ff and then chrome/chromium for when you absolutely need it

That's basically what I was doing until I started getting that startup error which seemed tied to FF. Guess I'll be more persistent this time.

I am aware of https://vivaldi.com/ but haven't tried. I do keep BRAVE installed for fucking with Tor easy. Used to fuck around with waterfox as well: https://www.waterfox.net/

Holy shit you mentioned everything I use haha I use 64bit Waterfox for work

[Himu]

Firefox of course. It's even my browser on my phone.

[Momo]

For you firefoxers why not use Adblock browser?

[toku]

This has been an enlightening thread. Thank you for your posts Boreans.

[EchoRin]

I just use uBlock and in case it seems overzealous (rarely happens) I switch to Ad-Block.

[Himu]

For you firefoxers why not use Adblock browser?

Why should I use that if Firefox has an adbkock extension and are very pro privacy?

[nudemacusers]

Safari mobile no mods

[Tasty]

I endorse Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, and Mozilla Firefox.

[OnlyRegret]

i like the fox

[team filler]

chrome and fox like to take turns going to shit  right now fox is on and chrom is on suspension 

[tiesto]

Fox for regular browsing, Chrome for debugging @ work

[thisismyusername]

but i swear some sites just seem to work better in chrome idk how you copy that experience

Because Google pretty much forces that. Youtube is a notorious example of them "optimizing" it to where Firefox takes longer to load.

as long as it's not internet explorer it honestly doesn't matter

Basically.

I used Firefox for a while before Chrome, but I haven't switched back despite "Optiflex" or whatever they called their faster browsing. I'm fine with Google, bar the phoning home. Plus it's the default on Android, so it's pretty hard to care to use an alternate on PC/mobile.

[Fifstar]

Only chrome. I work in online advertising and Google ads and analytics work best by far in chrome. I prefer it UX wise as well.  Also chrome let's you connect different Google accounts to chrome directly so there is no need for signing in and out of accounts.

[CatsCatsCats]

Safari iOS

[thisismyusername]

I haven't even looked at internet explorer in like two decades now that I think about it. The only time I even thought of it through that was when my tech illiterate uncle showed up to our place freaking out because he thought he deleted the internet, which was just the internet explorer shortcut.

IIRC Windows Server still forces it on you, at least on a fresh install.

Only for 2012, I think? Isn't there an newer version of Windows server, where it has Edge? I think 2016?

[nachobro]

iirc the new edge beta can be installed on 2016, but not the old/current edge. we haven't bothered cause there's really no need.

we still use IE for some work stuff, edge still doesn't work with sharepoint correctly. edge is our current default but we use gpo to force IE for some specific sites, mainly state gov sites that are old and busted. i also forced IE for an older ILO but I don't remember why now

[Himu]

Chrome in my experience, is balls due to being a massive resource hog. Switched over to FF like ten years ago after a few months of Chrome. Haven't looked back.

[TEEEPO]

firefox for avoiding paywalls, chrome for everything else

[Tasty]

Because Google pretty much forces that. Youtube is a notorious example of them "optimizing" it to where Firefox takes longer to load.

Like most things, it's a bit more nuanced than that.

Google tried getting people excited about Web Components and started shipping a draft spec in Chrome.

Other browser makers didn't like that version of Web Components, but based on the data and feedback that was able to be gathered by shipping the early version in Chrome, they were able to work together to make a far better version of Web Components.

Unfortunately, YouTube did a big site redesign in the middle of this and ended up using the Chrome-only early version, expecting other browsers would follow suit and until then a polyfill would be good enough. (Polyfills are never really good enough, ftr.)

Since then, the library that the YouTube redesign used (Polymer) got updated to use the new Web Components spec everyone likes (and which Firefox implemented), so everyone is currently happy. I think?

Web standardization is a fairly messy process. I think it was after this Google stopped shipping draft specs to end-users and instead started requiring web developers register with Google for origin trials (you need a special token now to use experimental features.) So this situation won't ever repeat (in this way.)






Additionally, everyone has finally (thankfully) woken up to the fact that user agent strings are busted as fuck (and also a privacy leaking nightmare), and are planning on throwing that trash in the bin. Instead of rejecting entire browsers wholesale, the idea is web apps will be required to use feature detection (a best practice anyways.)

[team filler]

firefox for avoiding paywalls, chrome for everything else

[Great Rumbler]

Chrome

[brawndolicious]

I always wonder why anyone doesn't just use Chrome.. because everyone who doesn't says stuff like "Well I have Chrome in case a web site doesn't work" and it brings me right back to the pain in the ass 00's when everyone was transitioning away from IE driven sites.

But I guess if FF is better on Android that makes some sense.   On iOS browsers are all kind of BS so I just use Safari.

On Android, you can't even put adblock on Chrome. And since I'd rather just use the same browser for every device to save login info and share tabs, I moved everything to FF. Took a day or two to get used to the layout on Android but for my usage, there were no website issues. It's pretty funny how much faster webpage navigation on a mobile device is when you turn off ads.

You still have to use Chrome for any web development because they're the King Fatass of the market but I don't really see why FF would be a big adjustment for a normal user.

[Transhuman]

I hate Chrome on android because you can't hide the articles on the new tab page in flags anymore.

It seems like they deliberately turned off that feature because people were using it. Insanity

Edit: I still use Chrome though.

[remy]

It's weird to me that the new firefox on android seems so much better than chrome, you'd think the built in one would have a home team advantage.

[D3RANG3D]

I was a huge FF stan until they dropped their own extension support there was still some forks that used those extensions but one quit outright Cyberfox :'( and the rest just switched, so I just use Chrome now.

[Joe Molotov]

Official Bowser of the Bore =

[Occam]

Unless you are deriving some sort of perverse pleasure from Google tracking and cataloging everything you do online (or are part of the problem), there is no reason not to use Firefox. It works extremely well on Android, too. Excellent add ons to prevent tracking, canvas fingerprinting and ads. Privacy is a basic human right.

My heartfelt gratitude to Chrome users for financing the web for me.

[Coax]

Could look at Vivaldi if one is concerned about Google. Runs on the same engine but offers nice pre-shit Opera features like tab stacking, optional single key shortcuts (eg: navigate prev/next tabs using 1/2 keys), split tab views (view two or more tabs beside each other in the same window), custom color schemes, among other in-built features.

In v3.0 they apparently added an inbuilt adblocker that one can hook up with ad blocking lists. Haven't tried it yet since I already use uBlock Origin.

Similar to D3RANG3D I loved FF until they dropped their legacy extension support. Didn't support MHT webpage saving last I checked which is a key feature I used. Still use it for testing stuff on a fresh profile though, along with a certain site that ironically only works with FF.

[D3RANG3D]

Palemoon is the only fork that uses a variation of legacy extensions but that kinda causes its own issues.

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I think you can still use mht with it.

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[Rufus]

Firefox

uBlock is the only extension I can't do without, but I also use To Google Translate and SingleFile.

[thisismyusername]

Unless you are deriving some sort of perverse pleasure from Google tracking and cataloging everything you do online (or are part of the problem), there is no reason not to use Firefox. It works extremely well on Android, too. Excellent add ons to prevent tracking, canvas fingerprinting and ads. Privacy is a basic human right.

My heartfelt gratitude to Chrome users for financing the web for me.

Or we're just lazy and know the privacy war has already been lost.

[nachobro]

i've nearly given up on the privacy war but even then ff uses less resources and is still faster, google btfo

[thisismyusername]

but even then ff uses less resources and is still faster, google btfo

I mean that's a more valid reason than "muh privacy."

[Joe Molotov]

Unless you are deriving some sort of perverse pleasure from Google tracking and cataloging everything you do online (or are part of the problem), there is no reason not to use Firefox. It works extremely well on Android, too. Excellent add ons to prevent tracking, canvas fingerprinting and ads. Privacy is a basic human right.

My heartfelt gratitude to Chrome users for financing the web for me.

Or we're just lazy and know the privacy war has already been lost.

That's where I'm at; I've reached the old-man phase of my life where new technology is scary, just let me keep my old things forever.

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I actually used Firefox before Chrome, switched to Chrome, now too lazy to switch back.

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[Momo]

But I want google to advertise demon based hentai to me

[Ghoul]

Chrome, used to be firefox but it went shit for a while so gave up with it and now CBA to go back.

[benjipwns]

Chrome mainly, but I use some of them for different sites just to check on what's happening as they update incase I'd like to switch. Mainly sites I'll check every once in a month or somethin and login.

I installed Brave recently, so I've been collecting huge amounts of Brave Tokens worth in the singles of dollars. I'm gonna give them at the "month" to The Kiwi Farms because it was the first site I recognized.

I am part of the problem.

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Anyone here take them? I could set it to send to you...

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[EchoRin]

Chrome mainly, but I use some of them for different sites just to check on what's happening as they update incase I'd like to switch. Mainly sites I'll check every once in a month or somethin and login.

I installed Brave recently, so I've been collecting huge amounts of Brave Tokens worth in the singles of dollars. I'm gonna give them at the "month" to The Kiwi Farms because it was the first site I recognized.

I am part of the problem.

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Anyone here take them? I could set it to send to you...

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[eleuin]

Was ff until I bought a chromebook and became indentured to Google

[Tasty]

Was ff until I bought a chromebook and became indentured to Google

Chromebooks and Chrome OS are pretty good nowadays tho.

[Tasty]

Mozilla should never have dumped Boot2Gecko/Fennec/FirefoxOS.

It was kinda spun off into its own company and they rebranded it to KaiOS... and now KaiOS is huge in developing markets and Google is the primary investor in the company.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/27/google-kaios/

Time is a flat circle. Mozilla missed huge here, they basically gifted Google another operating system.

[Tasty]

https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/more-intuitive-privacy-and-security-controls-chrome/

Cool stuff coming to Chrome soon that Firefox has probably had for a little bit:

- New setting to block all third-party cookies (blocked in Incognito by default)
- DNS-over-HTTPS
- Google apparently loves building "Safety Check" features into things (Play Store apps, Google Account security, now this)

[bork]

Was ff until I bought a chromebook and became indentured to Google

Can you not install another browser from the Google Play store?

[Tasty]

Was ff until I bought a chromebook and became indentured to Google

Can you not install another browser from the Google Play store?

You can.

You can also install Linux browsers.

However the entire shell of the operating system is pretty much Chrome... it definitely feels weird using a non-native browser on the system.

[Tuckers Law]

I assume The Bire was built with Netscape in mind, but since I don’t have that anymore I’ve just been using Firefox when browsing the site.

[Tasty]

They'll be more similar than not, and ever more so going forward.

In the end Chromium wins either way.