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That even though our world is pretty fucked, at least we don't live in a world where fucking Nazi's rule the planet.
It's such an intruiging show to me, showing such a crazy world where Nazi's have won WWII. For those unfamilliar with the series I will try to post some pictures.







The imagery in the show is pretty shocking, but it really hits home how bad a world like this would have been. Nazi's were crazy fucking bastards, and even this show doesn't show them in their true light, they were even more evil than portrayed on this show.

Imagine if they had actually won the war. Not only would probably none of us exist, but shit would also be so much worse than things are now.

I'm currently on the fourth season, which so far isn't as good as the previous 3 but I'm only a few episodes in so far. Very interested to see how it all ends. If you haven't seen it but like scifi stories or even just a good mystery story I can really recommend it. It also has motherfucking Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa or better know as



Playing the EXCELLENT role of



Trade Minister Tagomi. In fact I like Kido too, great acting from the japanese in this series.

Now if you are interested in the show I can tell you it's a bingewatching show. Lots of cliffhangers. But most stuff does get resolved, it's not Lost.



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From the trailer I thought it was the classic dystopia where good rebels fight against bad oppressors. I was wrong, it's much more. This is not a story of ideologies and causes, it is a story of human beings, a story about life, the causes and effects of love and hatred. Solid, well told, engaging and mysterious. Hooked after 30 minutes. One of my favorite TV series.
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Re: Watching The Man in The High Castle really made me appreciate
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2020, 01:56:05 PM »
I felt the same way playing Wolfenstein: New Order.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2020, 02:17:48 PM »
I felt the same way playing Wolfenstein: New Order.

I think both are inspired kinda by the Philip K Dick book?
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2020, 02:28:05 PM »
The premise is nonsensical of course, but I always felt about that show that someone saw Fatherland once and thought it was exhilarating instead of a boring slog of a movie. I couldn't make it through the first season.

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2020, 03:26:09 PM »
I felt the same way playing Wolfenstein: New Order.

I think both are inspired kinda by the Philip K Dick book?

Man In High Castle is directly adapted from it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2020, 07:17:53 PM »
The premise is nonsensical of course, but I always felt about that show that someone saw Fatherland once and thought it was exhilarating instead of a boring slog of a movie. I couldn't make it through the first season.

There's a school of thought that Nazism may have been successful in conquering Europe if (a) Hitler hadn't decided to go to Russia, and (b) Russia had not been as balls-out crazy hardcore in its defense strategy, and (c) dumbass Hitler hadn't decided to try it in winter.

If they'd left Russia alone, focused on Europe, and then worked a bi-coastal invasion of the USA, with Japan driven with the resources from Korea and China, it's feasible they could have manifested this.

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2020, 07:24:05 PM »
Even if you ignore that there were no aspirations of invading the US, occupying the country would have been a logistical nightmare and completely unfeasible.

It‘s a popular trope in alternative history fiction, but it‘s not something that could have ever happened, even if the Germans were the first to develop the nuclear bomb.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2020, 08:24:51 PM »
If being a nice old lady is a popular trope, then yes. :heart

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Re: Watching The Man in The High Castle really made me appreciate
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2020, 04:26:02 AM »
It made me appreciate other shows that don't suck

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Re: Watching The Man in The High Castle really made me appreciate
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2020, 04:32:55 AM »
I've only read the book, but phil was on meth writing all this shid and it shows  :lol
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Re: Watching The Man in The High Castle really made me appreciate
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2020, 05:38:51 AM »
It made me appreciate other shows that don't suck

Really not so sure what sucks about it. The acting is pretty good, the story is interesting and the premise is crazy
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Re: Watching The Man in The High Castle really made me appreciate
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2020, 05:53:24 AM »
I've only read the book, but phil was on meth writing all this shid and it shows  :lol

Philip K Dick the gawd

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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2020, 06:11:13 AM »
Even if you ignore that there were no aspirations of invading the US,

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Re: Watching The Man in The High Castle really made me appreciate
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2020, 09:21:25 AM »
It made me appreciate other shows that don't suck

Really not so sure what sucks about it. The acting is pretty good, the story is interesting and the premise is crazy

Hard to describe. It's just sort of "there", you know? I hate alt-history shows so maybe I never really gave it a chance.

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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2020, 09:25:14 AM »
i really do appreciate this but then i'm brought back to earth whenever i remember that there's no tony stark or sonic the hedgehog to save us from the injustices we face every day #notmypresident

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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2020, 11:04:33 AM »
Aren't Nazis ruling America right now?  :doge

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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2020, 01:07:07 PM »
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Hitler devoured the Westerns of the popular German novelist Karl May

btw. Karl May is an interesting read on wikipedia. Dude was a grifter that published his wild fantasies and sold them as travel logs despite never leaving Germany. He called himself Dr. Karl May without ever having been in an university.

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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2020, 01:15:11 PM »
I enjoyed how J Edgar Hoover had sold out everybody and was just another Nazi  :lol
The ending of this show is super dumb though. The best character was Smith followed closely by Inspector Kido.
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Re: Watching The Man in The High Castle really made me appreciate
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2020, 01:16:05 PM »
You are welcome MMasru

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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2020, 01:17:53 PM »
Aren't Nazis ruling America right now?  :doge

You could say that we made it a hot line, he made it a hot song.

That article doesn’t have aspirations to be academically accurate but this:
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The Sonderweg argument was attacked on multiple fronts. In what became known as the Historikerstreit (“Historians’ Dispute”), right-wing scholars in Germany proposed that the nation end its ritual self-flagellation: they reframed Nazism as a reaction to Bolshevism and recast the Holocaust as one genocide among many.

is probably the most reductionist and most uncharitable way to describe the dispute.  :doge

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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2020, 01:25:31 PM »
If Hitler had made cartoons instead of political speeches he would've been the Walt Disney of Germany  :idont
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2020, 01:27:37 PM »
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He notes that, in “Mein Kampf,” Hitler praises America as the one state that has made progress toward a primarily racial conception of citizenship

There were Reichstag debates whether Poles in Silesia or in occupied Posen could become German citizens in the 1870‘s.
The author decries the idea of the German Sonderweg, but injects American exceptionalism(or the negative form of it) all over the place.  :doge

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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2020, 01:30:37 PM »
People say How could anyone be surprised by Hitler‘s actions when he outlines them in Mein Kampf.
Have you tried reading that shit? It‘s an incoherent,rambling mess.

It’s like if someone punlished Nintex posts.

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2020, 01:42:58 PM »
The main themes of WW2 were poor management combined with terrible decision making that made bad situations worse for everyone at ever turn.
Even when 'winning' the various sides made big mistakes in their tactics and approach.

If WW3 were to break out at least we can assume it would be managed better.

The man in the high castle also keeps up this false premise that the Nazi's knew what the fuck they were doing.
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2020, 01:46:06 PM »
If only Hitler had looked at America more closely and made the Eastern European citizens greeters at MauerMart and mascots at Nazi World
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