How many of you guys are unemployed?

[shosta]

[Mandark]

At least until the end of July it's called funemployment.

[BisMarckie]

Just a matter of time before they find out that wikipedia could replace me

[BIONIC]

I mean I have a job, but describes my mental state better sooo

[Tripon]

I get a check for a performance bonus in July, but am unable to work summer school this year, and there's limited prospects of getting a quick summer job this year anyway. Teachers aren't allowed to file for unemployment if they're expected back in the fall. (Reasonable assurance letter).

[BisMarckie]

I get a check for a performance bonus in July, but am unable to work summer school this year, and there's limited prospects of getting a quick summer job this year anyway. Teachers aren't allowed to file for unemployment if they're expected back in the fall. (Reasonable assurance letter).

My wife is a teacher, she makes around 40K a year after taxes which is a solid income over here, not spectacular but solid. The thought of having to apply for a second job seems crazy to me. 


Pay your teachers a livable wage brehs

[jorma]

i can't vote on this shid until someone makes it clear what the options means

i was gonna go with thumbs up guy, but how can i be sure that this means "fuck no i don't, lol"?

[Tripon]

I get a check for a performance bonus in July, but am unable to work summer school this year, and there's limited prospects of getting a quick summer job this year anyway. Teachers aren't allowed to file for unemployment if they're expected back in the fall. (Reasonable assurance letter).

My wife is a teacher, she makes around 40K a year after taxes which is a solid income over here, not spectacular but solid. The thought of having to apply for a second job seems crazy to me. 


Pay your teachers a livable wage brehs

lol, I usually works summer school which nets me a little under $3K net after taxes, which I used to pay rent and moving costs (I was apartment hopping for years because housing/rent was rising). Not an issue this year for me personally. Depending on the school district, you can have a 11 month or 12 month contract, and I know teachers who work 2nd jobs just to make sure they can get though to the next month. It sucks, lol.

[shosta]

Pay your teachers a livable wage brehs

investing in future generations

[BisMarckie]

Teachers over here get lifelong tenure almost immediately  and a state pension that is,pretty lucrative. I haven‘t seen any political push in pretty much any state in the US to change the pretty dire situation of teachers regardless of political party. That is pretty sad for a job that is incredibly important and requires a college education

[Nintex]

I've got a job

[BisMarckie]

I've got a job

I‘m gonna quit though after the james fund payout

[Oblivion]

i'm "on call", so i still technically am an employee, but speaking practically, the same as being unemployed

but here's what's weird about my situation. my employer put me 'on call' because business apparently slowed down. not surprising right? what with us being in a global pandemic right?

except that, i've been told talking to my colleagues that things got super busy again, supposedly even busier than before the pandemic. also, as far as i know...i was the ONLY one who was put 'on call', literally everyone else in my team is still working. 

now you may say "well, maybe they put on a pretense and just wanted to fire you in a polite way?". which i've also thought. plenty of times  . however, i learned a few weeks ago that they extended my contract for another three months. 

so i'm curious. is there like any, business or regulation related reason they would still keep me on as an employee without actually having me work?

[shosta]

I haven‘t seen any political push in pretty much any state in the US to change the pretty dire situation of teachers regardless of political party.

it's a core plank of most state arms of the Democratic Party but it's limited by budget constraints and a total refusal to capture top 1% incomes. we had a few notable teacher strikes last year.

[Madrun Badrun]

I get payed the big-small money for being a student.  I'm also technically out of funding but have been very lucky this year.  Also my supervisor keeps paying me even though I'm hardly making progress and he really shouldn't be.  Basically, if being a failed jr scientist is a job then guy has one.

[shosta]

so i'm curious. is there like any, business or regulation related reason they would still keep me on as an employee without actually having me work?

It's cheaper to keep you on payroll than make you involuntarily unemployed. The airport calculated the exact dollar amount that would keep my dad off unemployment and have been making him work exactly that amount

[BisMarckie]

I haven‘t seen any political push in pretty much any state in the US to change the pretty dire situation of teachers regardless of political party.

it's a core plank of most state arms of the Democratic Party but it's limited by budget constraints and a total refusal to capture top 1% incomes. we had a few notable teacher strikes last year.

That’s what I mean.
I obviously don’t know much about US state politics (why would I?), but if it really was a core plank of the Democratic Party, then something would have changed already instead of being just as guilty for the sorry state of the American public education system.

[BlueTsunami]

I'm collecting for the Summer break. Even though my claim is from last year I'm still getting the COVID mega bucks. All in all getting more than I would be working. Currently getting paid to binge through Dark. My dudes this socialism business is the bees knees.

[Oblivion]

so i'm curious. is there like any, business or regulation related reason they would still keep me on as an employee without actually having me work?

It's cheaper to keep you on payroll than make you involuntarily unemployed.

but...how exactly?

[BisMarckie]

I'm collecting for the Summer break. Even though my claim is from last year I'm still getting the COVID mega bucks. All in all getting more than I would be working. Currently getting paid to binge through Dark. My dudes this socialism business is the bees knees.

Socialism means working though. He who does not work neither shall he eat.

[BlueTsunami]

so i'm curious. is there like any, business or regulation related reason they would still keep me on as an employee without actually having me work?

It's cheaper to keep you on payroll than make you involuntarily unemployed. The airport calculated the exact dollar amount that would keep my dad off unemployment and have been making him work exactly that amount

Yep my job paid me to sit on my ass for two months straight vs having us collect. I'd have saved up a lot of mo ey by now if I were collecting this whole time.

I'm collecting for the Summer break. Even though my claim is from last year I'm still getting the COVID mega bucks. All in all getting more than I would be working. Currently getting paid to binge through Dark. My dudes this socialism business is the bees knees.

Socialism means working though. He who does not work neither shall he eat.

That's true. Well whatever heaven this is. I've been jerking off, watching TV, going for walks, being creative. I'm fuckin thriving not working for the man. Fucking introverts paradise.

[Mandark]

but...how exactly?

UI is typically funded by contributions from the employers, and there's some formula for how much they chip in based on how many people claim UI after working there. But if you're furloughed and collecting UI because you have no hours I don't know if that would help them.

edit: if they're still paying you while you're home, then it could be they got a PPP loan and have to maintain their payroll spending so they won't have to pay it back.

[Great Rumbler]

Not me.

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Because I'm self-employed.

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[shosta]

writers

[Rahxephon91]

I'm doin ok right now.

[Oblivion]

but...how exactly?

UI is typically funded by contributions from the employers, and there's some formula for how much they chip in based on how many people claim UI after working there. But if you're furloughed and collecting UI because you have no hours I don't know if that would help them.

edit: if they're still paying you while you're home, then it could be they got a PPP loan and have to maintain their payroll spending so they won't have to pay it back.

yeah that's the thing. they're not just telling me to just sit around and do nothing while i get paid (oddly enough, that's what i did BEFORE the pandemic), but right now i'm on unemployment

[shosta]

how are me and one other guy the only people unemployed wtf

[Mandark]

Well the poll question is the opposite of the thread title, and I think the thumbs up maps better to being unemployed.

So could be shoddy survey design.

[Oblivion]

I don't know what's so confusing Oblivion.. they want the option to re-activate you as an employee when they see fit and they won't have the expense of having to recruit/train/whatever an actually new person.   Unless I'm missing something here?  But that's generally the point of furloughing.

did you miss the part where i said that things have gotten even busier than before the pandemic?

[El Babua]

Eating off the government rn. Got one more set of payments, then I'm done.

Company called and offered me a position on a temp program they'll be starting in August.

Problem is, it's "up to 40 hours" meaning not full time, no benefits, hourly pay, and of course risk interacting with however many people every day.

[shosta]

quit fighting

[Oblivion]

I don't know what's so confusing Oblivion.. they want the option to re-activate you as an employee when they see fit and they won't have the expense of having to recruit/train/whatever an actually new person.   Unless I'm missing something here?  But that's generally the point of furloughing.

did you miss the part where i said that things have gotten even busier than before the pandemic?

No I didn't.    That's just not what I was addressing.

Not that it's very confusing either.   

A capitalist company.. using an excuse to make less people do more work?  Say it aint so.

no, i understand that. and if it were just that, you're right, it would be the least surprising thing in the world.

however, from what i've spoken to my co-workers, they've said things were so busy that it was hard to keep up. one of my managers contacted me asking if the higher ups asked me to come back because of how busy things got.

and you also have to understand, this company had plenty of reasons to keep me at home BEFORE the pandemic because we barely had anything to do. i literally went through an entire week once where we didn't work on a single assignment. if they kept me on during times when there was fuck all to do, i don't know why they wouldn't call me back, even for a single DAY, when things are apparently pretty hectic.

[Positive Touch]

i'm employed but i refuse to go back in. haven't got much longer before they up and fire me but fuck it. i just don't know about job searching like this. i don't have a degree so i'm betting anything i find will pay me even worse than i was getting before, and will still be some level of dangerous. i'm so fucking sick of this damn country and so fucking tired of scraping by. i hope we burn all this shit down, and soon.

[Oblivion]

quit fighting

YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME, SHOSTA

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you know, cause i'm unemployed 

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[ToxicAdam]

I work for a place that feeds the auto industry. I’m working, but the future looks bleak. All capital projects have been put on hold and all ancillary spending is frozen. We’re already operating as if a 2-3 year recession is underway. At least the 2008 recession had the bailouts to help, but I don’t think we’ll see an equivalent this time.

[Coffee Dog]

I work for a company that subsists on gatherings of people, but this state is such a deep red hellscape we've been getting by just fine.    Probably got another month before shit starts getting dicey again though, people can only ignore so much for so long, and then I'm going full 

[CatsCatsCats]

Going back tomorrow

[CatsCatsCats]

But Jesus thanks for reminding me to file my last coronabucks.
Being unemployed but well paid to be home was the best time of my life, very sad about going back to less money and more stress and cases are higher than ever

[Mr Gilhaney]

I wish I was unemployed

[Himu]

I make more in unemployment than when I was employed. No complaints.

[Transhuman]

I signed up for unemployment a month or two ago and holy shit, they pay way too much.

+$600 a fortnight, then an extra $550 because of coronavirus. I can't believe my taxes were paying for this decadence

[Transhuman]

I make more in unemployment than when I was employed. No complaints.

[nudemacusers]

Employed, but currently on mandatory quarantine for two weeks and after that another two weeks of mandatory leave

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All paid tho 

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[shosta]

I signed up for unemployment a month or two ago and holy shit, they pay way too much.

+$600 a fortnight, then an extra $550 because of coronavirus. I can't believe my taxes were paying for this decadence

this is my favorite post in the whole thread

[naff]

ur welcome trashy



hoping aus extends corona bucks and free childcare 'til at least the end of the year tbh. if it all ends in september shit is going to get bleak

[Rman]

Yep. Unemployed. Job market is opening up thankfully. Just gotta be persistent.

[Trent Dole]

Any ideas for peeps without a ton of training that aren't public sector? No fucking way am I doing anything retail-y right now.

[Positive Touch]

any kind of data input job would be pretty nice right now I'd imagine. truck driving might be good too.


the question i have is should i start blowing some of the money I've been saving or will it still be worth something next year

[CatsCatsCats]

I’ve thought about truck driving. If you can figure out how acquire your own rig and be an owner-operator you can make fucking bank. Until we unlock the power of teleportation, we gon need transportation

Cmon boreans, we’re spread out, let’s network up a trucking team

[shosta]

Could you imagine giving filler access to the ham radio

[chronovore]

Employed. Game dev seems to be reasonably suited to remote-work.

[Oblivion]

Employed. Game dev seems to be reasonably suited to remote-work.

wait, you're a game dev?

[jorma]

I’ve thought about truck driving. If you can figure out how acquire your own rig and be an owner-operator you can make fucking bank. Until we unlock the power of teleportation, we gon need transportation

Cmon boreans, we’re spread out, let’s network up a trucking team

A quick google check:

"You sleep in your truck, you eat in your truck, you spend every minute in your truck. ... Some truck drivers even wear diapers to avoid stopping at bathrooms — not kidding."
Sounds like a perfect first job for a NEET, just leave moms basement and settle down in the truck instead 

Also, i think this is very likely to be one of the first jobs to disappear due to automation.

[chronovore]

Employed. Game dev seems to be reasonably suited to remote-work.

wait, you're a game dev?

Yup, been at it since 1994. I attended the very first E3, even.

[Oblivion]

Employed. Game dev seems to be reasonably suited to remote-work.

wait, you're a game dev?

Yup, been at it since 1994. I attended the very first E3, even.

what do you do?

[Madrun Badrun]

That's basically been me but replace that with uni, work, and grad school.  Life does kinda sucks.

[Rufus]

Also, i think this is very likely to be one of the first jobs to disappear due to automation.

Nope. Humans are cheaper. Self-driving trucks are a solution looking for a problm.

Now rail - that is rife for automation.

[jorma]

Also, i think this is very likely to be one of the first jobs to disappear due to automation.

Nope. Humans are cheaper. Self-driving trucks are a solution looking for a problm.

uhh do you expect the NEETS to pay for the pleasure of driving a truck back and forth? Because that's the only way they'll be cheaper 

[Rufus]

Rubbish.

NEETs exist, self-driving vehicles are a pipe dream. NEETs can be made to maintain themselves and their equipment (and held liable if they don't).

[jorma]

Rubbish.

NEETs exist, self-driving vehicles are a pipe dream. NEETs can be made to maintain themselves and their equipment (and held liable if they don't).

i bet you also don't see the day coming where people will think you're fucking insane if you opt for a human surgeon