Author Topic: The 2020 Hotep-Nazi v. Jew Race War |OT|because the world wasn’t hell enough  (Read 5771 times)

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What’s a hotep?
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iM tHe ReAl HebReW

What’s a hotep?

A smart dumb.
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This goes further than blacks vs jews.

It's smart dumb conspiracy theories. Black people that are ignorant are desperate. So desperate for an identity they attach themselves to false hoods that calls itself truth. It's the same shit that says Beethoven was actually black but "they're hiding it because they don't want you to know." The bad thing is that stuff like COINTELPRO which were real, help fuel this. When your own government conspires to kill your leaders and diminish your races power and equality, you'll start to go down a rabbithole because who can you trust?

Hotep-ism comes about the lack of identity and history stripped from black people from slavery. We have no identity, so some latch on to any identity. So they read the Old Testament, feel a kinship with the Israelites and say,"we are the REAL Israelites!" I'd laugh if it weren't sad and pathetic. Truly tragic.
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Withdrawing from the internet seems like a smarter and smarter move...

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i keep thinking about taking a break from social media but all i keep going back to is "what the fuck else am i supposed to do with all this free time?"
pcp


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was hoping this was a poll tbh
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Withdrawing from the internet seems like a smarter and smarter move...
i've pretty much written off social media. all i do is post dumb shit on IG. fuck facebook/twitter.
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Predictable

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VomKriege

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What’s a hotep?

Have you heard the good news about Yakub ?
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i keep thinking about taking a break from social media but all i keep going back to is "what the fuck else am i supposed to do with all this free time?"

Exactly. I want off social media but because the pandemic I need social media or I'll become more cut off from society.
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i keep thinking about taking a break from social media but all i keep going back to is "what the fuck else am i supposed to do with all this free time?"

Exactly. I want off social media but because the pandemic I need social media or I'll become more cut off from society.
do what i do bake bread and fukk
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i keep thinking about taking a break from social media but all i keep going back to is "what the fuck else am i supposed to do with all this free time?"

Exactly. I want off social media but because the pandemic I need social media or I'll become more cut off from society.
do what i do bake bread and fukk

baking requires venturing out into the miasma to gather ingredients, and fucking....  :goty2
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When it comes to people deciding on hating an entire group of people the reasons behind finding a reason to hate the Jews has always sounded like the farthest reach to me. Not to say that other groups of people deserve hatred. Usually the other forms of racism or xenophobia and other such exclusionary similar things, the person's messed up logic is usually kinda more direct and primal, with anti-semitism it's always a big ol wild story of secret control. Like what?

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When it comes to people deciding on hating an entire group of people the reasons behind finding a reason to hate the Jews has always sounded like the farthest reach to me. Not to say that other groups of people deserve hatred. Usually the other forms of racism or xenophobia and other such exclusionary similar things, the person's messed up logic is usually kinda more direct and primal, with anti-semitism it's always a big ol wild story of secret control. Like what?

It’s all in the Wikileaks  ::)
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When it comes to people deciding on hating an entire group of people the reasons behind finding a reason to hate the Jews has always sounded like the farthest reach to me. Not to say that other groups of people deserve hatred. Usually the other forms of racism or xenophobia and other such exclusionary similar things, the person's messed up logic is usually kinda more direct and primal, with anti-semitism it's always a big ol wild story of secret control. Like what?

Blaming everything on the Jews has always been comical to me from a black perspective. As if all Jews are white.
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i keep thinking about taking a break from social media but all i keep going back to is "what the fuck else am i supposed to do with all this free time?"

Porn and vidya, obviously
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Also I would just like to note that along with all the rest of the real world's burning issues, 2019 GOTY Disco Elysium dealt with this burning issue

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Finally getting tired of all this culture war bullshit but it is darkly funny that SOHH/4chan arguments are dripping slowly into the real world. Empathy for all the people who never went on forums and now they have to deal with this as adults

Just like in the early aughts, the winning move is not to play :aah


You need some shitposting experience though to recognize this :expert

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When it comes to people deciding on hating an entire group of people the reasons behind finding a reason to hate the Jews has always sounded like the farthest reach to me. Not to say that other groups of people deserve hatred. Usually the other forms of racism or xenophobia and other such exclusionary similar things, the person's messed up logic is usually kinda more direct and primal, with anti-semitism it's always a big ol wild story of secret control. Like what?

You can't really divorce the earlier religious "arguments", the two overlapped for a long time (In 1182, Philippe Auguste of France seizes all their possessions, ransoms them, expels them. Same thing in 1394, expelled and ordered to sell possessions to float public finances up). I guess for most Western Europeans the whole "they killed Jesus" and Abrahamic jealousy towards the elder son of God (and their stubborn refusal to be religiously assimilated) sound pretty vague now but it was probably a lot more visceral when the Church was a core pillar of society. The transition from religious to nation-state scapegoats really had time to bake in, even if they feel superficially different (but you can see how the stereotype of "duplicity", "dual allegiance" carried over).
And while the Rothschild and Soros always featured prominently in recent centuries, I think the hatred, envy and fantasies had a lot more concrete outlets in cities and towns where you had Jewish inhabitants or districts.
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In some cases it's really just representative of peoples experiences with Jewish people. It's been known that Jewish studio execs and producers would stiff black singers/musicians out of money. A lot of these takes come from the entertainment industry. Then there's the Jewish folks in New York buying up whole buildings and gentrifying neighborhoods and only renting those buildings to Jews. That type of stuff will have massive backlash and then the people that face it will start to spread the word and start to resent you while thinking this small sampling is representative of all Jews.

Then the cycle repeats and now you've got black people posting fake Hitler quotes. And because they're black people with positions of power and influence and an actual speaking platform, they sound off on Jews which creates momentum.

Essentially, racism is a never ending evil. It's also why the idea that black people can't be racist is categorically laughable and shields black people from their own biases in need of self reflection.

« Last Edit: July 16, 2020, 04:29:14 PM by Cindi Mayweather »
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If you're one of those "black people can't be racist" types, you should probably stop it. Because you're fueling this. In their eyes, they aren't being racist. After all if "the Jews" own everything how can you truly be racist against them, as per the modern definition of racism being defined as being based around power?  :doge

If Jews have all the power, you can't be racist against them.  :doge

You should probably shut the fuck up and start calling it as it is and this idea of black perfection, that black people can't hate, and that black hate can't be harmful need to be stabbed in the heart Wu-Tang style. You're playing serious games.
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You can't really divorce the earlier religious "arguments"
you kinda can, and i think the rest of your post admits as much. pre-modern antisemitism is informed by the antisemitism that’s baked into the new testament, 19th century-present ethno-nationalist antisemitism is afraid of a stateless internal enemy whose real allegiance is some sinister, international network of wealth and power. there’s a thread of assimilationist anxiety that’s common to both, but it gets articulated differently

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You can't really divorce the earlier religious "arguments"
you kinda can, and i think the rest of your post admits as much. pre-modern antisemitism is informed by the antisemitism that’s baked into the new testament, 19th century-present ethno-nationalist antisemitism is afraid of a stateless internal enemy whose real allegiance is some sinister, international network of wealth and power. there’s a thread of assimilationist anxiety that’s common to both, but it gets articulated differently

Let me rephrase my point, without debating on how much carry over from one to the other there was* : Antisemitism in its Christian flavor is going on its... 1900th year or so of existence ? I don't think you can elude that in the question of its current prevalence still.

* From my limited studies and understanding : Stronger than some other prejudices who also transitioned from religious to pseudo-scientific.
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lol nazi nigras, yes the way out of your hateful oppression is to hatefully oppress others, sure. :derp
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Can't we all get along and unify to fight the Chinese Bolsheviks ?
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I used to enjoy and admire Nick Cannon a lot as a kid. :(


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I used to enjoy and admire Nick Cannon a lot as a kid. :(

I'm sorry for your lots.

He's always been an idiot.

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Mariah was always too good for him. :kermit
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OJ Simpson will cross the divide and heal relations :brain
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Let me rephrase my point, without debating on how much carry over from one to the other there was* : Antisemitism in its Christian flavor is going on its... 1900th year or so of existence ? I don't think you can elude that in the question of its current prevalence still.
i guess my point is that we need to ask the question differently. instead of: how have jews been prejudiced against in europe over time? it should be: how has jewishness/judaism as a category of otherness changed over time (in europe)?


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The dude with the Nazi tattoo in the OP is directly imported from Esch's "that type of guy" thread.

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When I went to Philly with my girlfriend a few years back, we went to the hotel pool our first night there. There was another couple at the pool around our age, both covered with tattoos... they approached and started a brief friendly conversation. They said they were from the area and go to Philly a lot so I asked them about cool places to check out. Amicable enough, but then I noticed the guy had SS and a swastika tat... now neither of us are Jewish (technically I am like >1% Ashkenazi), but we both have thick LI accents and have each been mistaken for Jewish plenty of times in the past... so I had to subtly hint at my gf "we need to gtfo!". Was fucked up, first time I ever saw an outward nazi in the flesh.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/column-first-brush-black-anti-140017082.html

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Much like anti-Black sentiment isn’t always manifested by slurs, anti-Semitism doesn’t always come with a lighted marquee. It’s subtle — shrouded in absent-minded stereotyping, unchallenged colloquialisms, tepid rebukes of inflammatory remarks like the ones recently made by DeSean Jackson and Nick Cannon or, even worse, no rebukes at all.

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My first brush with anti-Semitism started at home. My family didn’t collect Nazi memorabilia or anything conspicuous like that. Growing up, one of my favorite things to do was visit family members in Chicago. I loved the cookouts, music and trips to the Maxwell Street Market many residents “affectionately” referred to as “Jewtown." One day I asked a family member why it was called that and she said it was because before buying anything we had to first “jew the price down."

For 40 years that conversation has stuck with me. I didn’t have the vocabulary to express or fully understand it back then but I knew enough to feel that there was something fundamentally wrong with the name “Jewtown” and how it was talked about. Despite growing up in the segregated South, I never heard my relatives speak ill of white people and I’m sure no one felt that line of thinking — that shorthand stereotyping — was harmful.

But it was. Still is. And those words coming from a Black person doesn’t change that.

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As I said earlier, my family didn’t mean any harm with their stereotypes, they just didn’t know any better. Jackson and to a degree Cannon also voiced a lack of clarity on the issues in their subsequent apologies. ("I feel ashamed of the uninformed and naive place that these words came from," Cannon tweeted Wednesday.) But the ignorance of the offender doesn’t explain away everything about these recent episodes. It doesn’t explain why public chastisement over anti-Semitic comments is fairly muted when compared to the reaction to racists' remarks. It doesn’t explain why some Black people feel that disparaging Jewish people is an essential element to liberation.

Personally, I don’t think forcing a man onto his knees makes me taller.


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Let me rephrase my point, without debating on how much carry over from one to the other there was* : Antisemitism in its Christian flavor is going on its... 1900th year or so of existence ? I don't think you can elude that in the question of its current prevalence still.
i guess my point is that we need to ask the question differently. instead of: how have jews been prejudiced against in europe over time? it should be: how has jewishness/judaism as a category of otherness changed over time (in europe)?

Stop intelligence-shame me. :brazilcry
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Oh no, my precious rights to... government contracts and college safe spaces?  :doge

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Oh n0, my prEcioUs RightS to... goVernmeNt coNtractS and coLLege safe sPaCes?  :derp

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Educate yourself:

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2019/09/10/us-states-bring-in-anti-bds-laws-encourage-israeli-occupation/

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boycott-laws-punish-responsible-businesses

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In November 2018, the global tourism company Airbnb announced it would stop listing properties in settlements, as part of a new policy to bar listings that, among other things, contribute to “existing human suffering.” The day after it announced its decision, Israeli strategic affairs minister Gilad Erdan wrote to the governors of Illinois, New York, Florida, Missouri, and California, encouraging them to take action “in relation to commercial dealings” with Airbnb. After several states took action against Airbnb, it changed course and said it would not remove settlement listings from its platform
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In Texas, a federal district court has already ruled against such a state law, deeming it unconstitutional. The law required government contractors to certify that they did not engage in boycott of Israel and would not do so over the course of their contract. In the present case, Bahia Amawi, a Palestinian-American speech therapist, was required to sign a pledge which stated that she would not “take any action” that was “intended to penalize, inflict economic harm on, or limit commercial relations with Israel.”  She was an independent contractor under an annual agreement with the school district in the city of Pflugerville and not a state employee. As someone who had personally chosen to boycott Israeli made goods, Amawi did not renew the contract and subsequently sued, securing the blocking of the enforcement of the legislation.

Abhorrent law that seemingly exists for no other nation. At least it’s being struck down in some states.

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::) Educate myself on a matter already decided in federal court for *your* position, OK...

Gj with the random Googling, you sure showed me.

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Who cares.

Either way: #FreePalestine

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Sorry Tasty, I still wuv you  :uguu

I was sounding like a real Mandark there  :yuck
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Apology accepted, I was also being ignorant and took some time today to do further research, so thank you. :heart

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Who cares.

Either way: #FreePalestine

#FreePalestine? Yeah, it was.
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