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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.

You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps

The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."

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this is starting to explain your guys grades on BisMarckie's exam

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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.

You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps

The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."

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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.

You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps

The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."

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I posted about the above the line tax deduction for education expenses the other day. :pacspit

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FACT CHECK:

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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.

You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps

The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."

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I posted about the above the line tax deduction for education expenses the other day. :pacspit

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Good meme. There may yet be hope for this thread.

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NEVER

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triangles are the strongest shaping
therefore the premise is nigh unassailable

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He's certainly accelerated some authoritarian degeneracy and he is getting a lot closer than I expected to fulfilling the most hyperbolic and hysterical worries of 2016.

Ousting him will not magically revert course but four more years of this shit could turn really sour.

I think there will be some exceptional fuckery for the election and  a mild case of "Civil War" incidents soon are not off the menu at this rate.
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A "civil war" breaks down too poorly over what territory is held. The prior one had a nice clean dividing line with one specific issue. Now there are enclaves and tracts within territories and less than 60/40 splits in those areas that show up as one color in a county map.

The last time, the Republican Party wasn't even on the ballot in the eventual Confederate States. And the Democratic Party had split along geographical lines. And they had clear dividing lines. Plus state loyalties first.

What would the issue even supposed to be? And it'd probably be so limited to a single area it wouldn't animate anywhere else.

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You seriously think a small handful of protesters yelling at state legislators is a prelude to civil war?

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I agree with Vom. All of the trends in American polity are irreversible and electing Biden won't change our future.

I don't know they are but yeah the problem runs a lot deeper than having "one bad actor" at the levers. Trump is an incredible black light on just how fractured the citizenry and the system is.

It's not just the USA, liberal democracies in general are overdue structural changes. Otherwise we're due for a carrousel of "saviours" who won't live to the expectations at best, or leverage the personality cult for heinous policies.
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Otherwise we're due for a carrousel of "saviours" who won't live to the expectations at best, or leverage the personality cult for heinous policies.
That's been both of us friend since after the wars.

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You seriously think a small handful of protesters yelling at state legislators is a prelude to civil war?

You understood well what the quotation marks were here for.
Not a LITERAL CIVIL WAR yet, but I can certainly foresee more and more violence between protestors and authorities and from one faction to another.

Mass shootings becoming political statements more commonly in lieu of targeted shootings, bombs, hostage takings etc... is maybe a prelude.
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FACT CHECK:

READ SETTLERS GENTILE.

Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.

You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps

The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."
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The central argument of fascism makes certain claims fundamentally about the individual and their relationship with the state.

idk sounds like a rhetorical device to posit libertarianism as the real antipode to fascism

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The political system is US is so fucked. How is it possible you only have creepy uncle Joe and dictator idiot Trump as choices?

Both seem fucking terrible to me.
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I took curly's advice to heart and didn't read any of this shit :smug

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this was the most worthless discussion possible on this topic; good job all
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I took curly's advice to heart and didn't read any of this shit :smug

I'm so sorry. :tocry
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I'm so sorry. :tocry

Don't be too hard on yourself. I'll bet that moblin was pro-facism before this thread was created and now you've changed their mind. They just can't express it.






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People have a tendency to say that fascism (or communism I guess) are the opposite of things they like but good to see it realized in academia.

Anyway some good stuff from curly/shomsta/kara as always but we haven't really touched on the economic dimension of fascism yet... Understandable since the United States already projects force at nearby states and internal groups to extract wealth as it's normal function, guess it won't be obvious till we send tanks into Manitoba or wherever arvie lives during our death throes and force him to work for free or periphery wages at the Coca Cola factory.

Tbh to simply describe fascism as the ultimate form of capitalism is just intellectually lazy and a major gripe I had with a lot of Marxist scholars.


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People have a tendency to say that fascism (or communism I guess) are the opposite of things they like but good to see it realized in academia.

Anyway some good stuff from curly/shomsta/kara as always but we haven't really touched on the economic dimension of fascism yet... Understandable since the United States already projects force at nearby states and internal groups to extract wealth as it's normal function, guess it won't be obvious till we send tanks into Manitoba or wherever arvie lives during our death throes and force him to work for free or periphery wages at the Coca Cola factory.

Tbh to simply describe fascism as the ultimate form of capitalism is just intellectually lazy and a major gripe I had with a lot of Marxist scholars.

Look at you asshole, back to reading things again :umad

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Sometimes mayors need to be tear gassed to preserve federal property

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I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?

Federal Agents kidnapping protestors in Portland (and Seattle IIRC). I haven't been paying too much attention to it since the news is BARELY covering it, if ever.

MSNBC has been covering this for days, on every hour and show of the day  ::)

That doesn’t disprove TIMU’s assertion that the news isn’t covering the federal kidnappings :thinking

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I think what's wilder is that half(ish) the country doesn't even give a shit and support his moves to own the libs aka people not like them. Every Republican should be flipping the fuck out right now, but I haven't seen shit from any Republicans about Portland and sending in the mini van goon squad into other cities and how they're mighty quiet on the one time the 2nd Amendment directly applies to a modern and on going situation.

The "libertarians" I know who should in theory be up in arms against a fascist government throwing protestors into unmarked vans are all like "but it's OK, those people are Marxists being paid off by Soros to destroy America!"
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Ultimately I think a way out is finding a new modulation of politics. I don't know if it's switching back to a more parliament based regime or moving to more direct democracy because new technologies maybe make that old canard more viable than it used to be. I don't think devolving everything back to local level is the milk and honey solution to fix problems but shorter, sustainable circuits & al. have been trending for a while in other domains of thoughts.

Because otherwise I'm not seeing anywhere any third way / centrist / liberal really turning the tide, at best slowing for a while the drift to the far right.
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Also the fascism thing is kinda sterile and academic. I get the impulse to be a pedant but can we all agree democratic checks and balance (among other things) eroded significantly under Trump ?
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The political system is US is so fucked. How is it possible you only have creepy uncle Joe and dictator idiot Trump as choices?

Both seem fucking terrible to me.

One is an average typical politican. The other is a complete racist corrupt awful shit bag. Not overly aimed at you but this sort of I'm too hip
for actual discernment equivalence is a big pet peeve of mine when we say one thing is just like the other when one thing is exactly not like the other.

Hey I accidentally stubbed my toe does not equal, I got ebola and it ate all of my flesh and now I'm probably gonna die. That distinction is the very purpose of a message board.

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Also the fascism thing is kinda sterile and academic. I get the impulse to be a pedant but can we all agree democratic checks and balance (among other things) eroded significantly under Trump ?

This topic tends towards inanity by virtue of the fact that it treats fascism as something begotten, not made, which is to say only reproducing itself in a like manner. Analyzing past fascist movements is instructive, but ignoring their developments since then is frankly not very dialectical. (This of course excludes the people who use such discussions to show off their latest strawmen for sale.) Consequently the definitions that get bandied about either come to resemble an amorphous blob (if evolutions are contemplated) or are hopelessly out of date.

Dog Mod, as a friendly criticism of your initial claim, President Trump came from the bourgeoisie and his presidency (despite the anxiety about squatter decline from both him and the media) has served that class position in its entirety. From the new Internal Revenue Code, to the gutting of federal regulations / agencies there can be little dispute as to whom he governs on behalf of. (Hell, how many bourgeois have been in the various permutations of his cabinet?) The U.S. is an archipelago of little dictatorships, they're called private businesses in right to work states. That he himself may appear to have dictatorial tendencies is more a reflection of that than it is fascism.

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Even the haute bourgeoisie prey on minorities, I don't think there is meaningful opposition to Trump's racial agenda at the top. Multiple industries here (private prisons, hospitality, meat processing, dumping via app, and so on) even thrive on it.

I don't know what his cultural agenda is beyond being a Fox News grandpa.

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Ultimately I think a way out is finding a new modulation of politics. I don't know if it's switching back to a more parliament based regime or moving to more direct democracy because new technologies maybe make that old canard more viable than it used to be. I don't think devolving everything back to local level is the milk and honey solution to fix problems but shorter, sustainable circuits & al. have been trending for a while in other domains of thoughts.

Because otherwise I'm not seeing anywhere any third way / centrist / liberal really turning the tide, at best slowing for a while the drift to the far right.
Finding the will to change the political system requires an independence of thought and a willingness to break with the existing order of things that people just don't have yet. But with the way things are, if they do get to that point in their political maturation, they're not going to try to reform the United States, they'll try burning it down.

I think the USA is kinda in a bad place between the fetishism for the original texts of the founders and the federal clusterfuck. Calls for a 6th Republic in France (and a new constitution draft) are far fetched but in the realm of possible, we changed regimes... 15 times (?) in 230 years. Citizens could certainly come to it if things get rowdy enough. Short of an actual civil war, it's hard to imagine Americans embracing that. People would die (or kill, I guess) for this on your side of the pond.
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I think the USA is kinda in a bad place between the fetishism for the original texts of the founders

It's definitely an issue when you pretend that a small agrarian society from hundreds of years ago had the solutions for modern problems but that is just another symptom of the real issue. The real problem are literally the people themselves. They elect bad leaders who enact bad policies and then are surprised when bad things happen. The political smarts of the average voter create a system where real change is almost impossible. When politicians know this and generally know there are no real repercussions for doing a shitty or fradulent job, the circle of crap is complete.

People get mad at Trump and they should because he is a truly reprehensible trash human, but half of the country thought he was the best man to do the job. That sin is far worse and more damning than whatever Trump himself has done. That dumbness stays whenever Trump leaves whether its in 4 years or this fall.
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much as i hate the way it makes me sound like some right-wing christian from the 90s, i think a lot of our problems are in fact cultural. we have millions of people that vote on regressive policies solely because they don't want others to have them. so many are suffering from debt and poverty but won't back measures to alleviate that for various (stupid) reasons. and we've got millions of people that are just a-o.k. with preventable deaths being a part of our everyday culture. no matter what changes we go through we have to turn all that shit around.
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Let's be real. There is no real intellectual engagement with the American revolution. It's just a setpiece for the mythology the nation.

as with a million other things it's just a cheap way to give false legitimacy to whatever modern bullshit policies and hateful ideologies are being pushed
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Re: Let's just get out there and say it: Trump has finally gone full ******
« Reply #100 on: July 23, 2020, 02:50:01 PM »
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.
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Re: Let's just get out there and say it: Trump has finally gone full ******
« Reply #101 on: July 23, 2020, 02:53:11 PM »
I don't know about this. He clearly has a racial and cultural agenda that goes well beyond what the business class desires from the federal government.


You're giving him too much credit, he's not that thought out. His only real agenda was undoing what Obama did. Anything above and beyond that is just the usual trappings of growing up in 1950/60's America as a wealthy, white person.

 
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The political system is US is so fucked. How is it possible you only have creepy uncle Joe and dictator idiot Trump as choices?

Both seem fucking terrible to me.

Don't worry. In 4 years we'll get to decide between Kanye West and Kid Rock.

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« Reply #103 on: July 23, 2020, 03:01:37 PM »
Can we stop with the far left whinging and just change the thread title from fascist to ****** to dictator to appease them so they can shut the fuck up?
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Re: Let's just get out there and say it: Trump has finally gone full ******
« Reply #104 on: July 23, 2020, 03:26:09 PM »
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.

ngl i was/still am half expecting the trump saga to end with him getting assassinated, and now the the q crowd are losing faith in him :doge
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« Reply #105 on: July 23, 2020, 03:28:42 PM »
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.

ngl i was/still am half expecting the trump saga to end with him getting assassinated, and now the the q crowd are losing faith in him :doge

If he gets assassinated then he becomes a Martyr and Trumpism lives on and will become more violent. It's the last thing you want. You want to defeat him legally through legal channels via voting or his movement will grow bigger.

What do you mean q crowd are losing faith in him? I don't follow them.
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« Reply #107 on: July 23, 2020, 03:32:09 PM »
This:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1285690246466801671

I'm well aware of that but Trump voters okay anything and everything he says so there's zero reason to think that would impact them in any manner nor is it confirmation they're losing faith in him neither. It's purely theoretical. We are talking about the same people quiet on federal forces storming American cities after years of totalitarian government takeover theories. Hell, they were protesting masks as dictatorship just a few months ago. Why would anyone think that Trump saying that will result in them losing faith in him given the last, oh say, five years?
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Re: Let's just get out there and say it: Trump has finally gone full ******
« Reply #108 on: July 23, 2020, 03:33:45 PM »
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.

ngl i was/still am half expecting the trump saga to end with him getting assassinated, and now the the q crowd are losing faith in him :doge

If he gets assassinated then he becomes a Martyr and Trumpism lives on and will become more violent. It's the last thing you want. You want to defeat him legally through legal channels via voting or his movement will grow bigger.

What do you mean q crowd are losing faith in him? I don't follow them.

the swamp remains undrained, some of those people are catching on

i don't think trump being killed would be good at all, theres your civil war catalyst right there, but these are crazy times and america has a lot of lunatics with access to weapons :trumps
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« Reply #109 on: July 23, 2020, 03:33:56 PM »
I was speaking of Q in particular. I'm sure they'll square the circle on that comment eventually, conspiracy theorists always do.

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« Reply #110 on: July 23, 2020, 03:34:55 PM »
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.

ngl i was/still am half expecting the trump saga to end with him getting assassinated, and now the the q crowd are losing faith in him :doge

If he gets assassinated then he becomes a Martyr and Trumpism lives on and will become more violent. It's the last thing you want. You want to defeat him legally through legal channels via voting or his movement will grow bigger.

What do you mean q crowd are losing faith in him? I don't follow them.

the swamp remains undrained, some of those people are catching on

i don't think trump being killed would be good at all, theres your civil war catalyst right there, but these are crazy times and america has a lot of lunatics with access to weapons :trumps

Do you have any evidence they're losing faith in him besides anecdotes?
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« Reply #111 on: July 23, 2020, 03:36:12 PM »
I don't think the Q people are really losing faith in him. They're getting more restless and impatient however. Most of them will do some Olympics level gymnastic to absolve him (especially if he is voted out) but they will lash out at something, the supposed cabal or the people who "failed" Trump.

I think the ramp up for violence was probably on its way, Trump or not. Some people were already way into delusional territory because of Obama existing. Trump certainly accelerated things.
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« Reply #112 on: July 23, 2020, 03:39:48 PM »
I don't think the Q people are really losing faith in him. They're getting more restless and impatient however. Most of them will do some Olympics level gymnastic to absolve him (especially if he is voted out) but they will lash out at something, the supposed cabal or the people who "failed" Trump.

I think the ramp up for violence was probably on its way, Trump or not. Some people were already way into delusional territory because of Obama existing. Trump certainly accelerated things.

I agree Trump pushed it full steam ahead and furthermore, I feel Covid accelerated violent culture war stuff by at least 5-10 years in a 5 month timespan.
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« Reply #113 on: July 23, 2020, 03:40:06 PM »
Where's hungrynoob when you need him.

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« Reply #114 on: July 23, 2020, 03:58:04 PM »
There was looting in Portland, shootings in New York are up dramatically and local authorities are really dropping the ball.
I also don't think sending Chad into Chicago is going to be much of an improvement. But what else are they going to do?
Those numbers are Trumps problem now. His opponent will hit him with those crime statistics.

As the White House people said: "no more woke shit from Jared"
Trump has no ideology himself so it all depends on who he is listening to at that particular point in time and we've come at a point that Hope Hicks and Mark Meadows seem to be giving him ideas.
Also don't forget that with Stone, Flynn etc. off the hook they're probably in close contact with Trump as well.
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« Reply #116 on: July 23, 2020, 06:33:48 PM »
Also better accept now that if voted out, Trump will probably be richer, live to 104 and never ever shut the fuck up.
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Re: Let's just get out there and say it: Trump has finally gone full ******
« Reply #117 on: July 23, 2020, 07:12:12 PM »
Where's hungrynoob when you need him.

Do we really, though?
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« Reply #118 on: July 23, 2020, 07:13:35 PM »
Where's hungrynoob when you need him.

Do we really, though?

Not if Molly‘s Fruit Loops was back  :maf

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« Reply #119 on: July 23, 2020, 11:20:04 PM »
late to the party on this one but critical support to comrade kara for coming out of occultation to smack benji for trying to smuggle in a nolan chart analysis when ostensibly just calling balls and strikes (mandark chipped in too) and also bismarckie, whose deutschchauvinismus has always been more annoying than anything any dutchman’s posted on this board. rip in power until next time the tax code comes up, breh