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Rahxephon91

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Car Purchase Advice.
« on: July 24, 2020, 12:02:05 AM »
So I've come to the point were it's time to purchase a car.

And I don't really know anything about cars or exactly what I should be looking for.

I've driven Honda my entire life and I'm leaning to stay with them. I've driven a 98 and then an 07 CRV. I also drive a Ford Edge for work. So I am use to SUVs. But I don't really need an SUV. I mean I have no family or whatever. I was looking at the KIA Sportage, but eh the car is ugly and eh looks like a mom car. So I think I'd be happy with a sedan.

I'd like to put no more than 9000 down and hey if they allow me to trade in my old ass crv then sure.

I've been eyeing the Honda Civic because...it seems like the car for skinny hipsters such as myself and I like it's edgy curve look. A 2019 or 2018 Sport or Ex trim seems to be in my price range. I'm not looking to go over 19000 honestly. Not sure what style would be best. I thought Hatchback because it would give me some sort of storage option, but if that seems pointless please tell me.

Or if there are other cars or options I should be looking at please inform me. Not looking for anything fancy, just a decent car.

Thanks.

Akala

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2020, 12:07:43 AM »
Seems like not picky, civics are fine? Make sure to get the newer turbo ones with a little kick that don’t suck to drive. hatches are awesome.

BisMarckie

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2020, 12:10:53 AM »
Hyundai and KIA are both reliable and give you a good bang for your buck, maybe have a look if you are not dead set on buying a Honda.

G The Resurrected

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2020, 12:12:12 AM »
I don't have a lot of advice but here are a few things I've learned recently in my car searching.

Look into local clean air rebates for fuel efficient vehicles and programs for accelerated vehicle retirement
Get a hybrid even if you don't want one, unless you need a V6. The fuel savings is only part of the equation, some of those rebates values can be much higher if you get a hybrid depending on your state and available funds.

If you are stuck in your budget and can't get into any of the various rebate programs. I'd suggest looking at the Hyundai/Kia brand for reliability/warranty. They offer some of the best tech in vehicles of that price range. Honda's were not looked on too favorably in reviews over the past few years, I don't know if that's issues with reliability or just factory issues.

But before you do anything try and find out if you qualify for any of those rebates. For myself I was able to do several and get voucher for $9k, not everyone is gonna qualify for that but I did for my area. Granted I have to get a Hybrid to get the full amount and if I get a plug in hybrid I'll get even more.

Tripon

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2020, 12:37:46 AM »
A couple of things, especially since car buying in the pandemic has its own set of wonky rules. At this point, I wouldn't buy used since used car prices are crazy right now. Buying new might still get you incentives, but new car production is also effected by the pandemic.

1) Think of what your overall car budget is. Okay, you want to put down $9000, that's a lot to put down on a Civic or Accord depending on the trim. How much do you want to spend overall? $20000, $25000, $30000, $35000, etc.

2) Think of what features you want, and the trim level. Do you want Android Auto/Apple Carplay, do you want heated/cooled seats, do you want AC, power windows, etc.

3) IMO, if you can, try to go for a larger sedan, if you're on the taller size, a larger car means more space, and the hit on the gas mileage isn't too bad.

4) Check what your credit score is, and know what it is before hand. Also, check with your local bank or credit union and see what they're offering on financing.  When you do financing, (and you're going to have to do it unless you're paying for the car outright). Depending on your credit score, they might offer a percentage above what it should be. Say your credit score is 750 and that should qualify you for the best rate the auto company financing is (And pretty much all auto companies have their own bank/financing company at this point, one would argue that they're banks masquerading as auto companies at this point). They do this because they can make profit off of interest off of you. That's fine, but you need to know what you should pay on interest, and if their offer of financing is terrible and try to screw you over, just say you'll go with your credit union instead.
 
5) Due to the pandemic, companies are much more willing to negotiate over email. Try to do everything you need, including negotiate terms before you even set foot into the dealership. You can use a car matching service like Truecar.com to compare various prices online with nearby dealerships. If you don't want to negotiate at all, try costco car buying service, where it won't be the lowest price you can get if you're a good negotiator, but that is the price (outside of fees and taxes) that it should be, so you know what the price you are paying. And if the dealership won't honor it, you can complain to Costco.

If you want to stick with Honda, I'd go for an Accord vs. a Civic just because of the size, unless you really want the Civic Hatch due to storage space because of the hatch. Other sedans I would consider is the Camry for reliability, especially the hybrids, the Corolla (current versions, both the sedans and Hatches are way better than previous versions), including the hybrids, the new K5 from Kia, the Optima from Kia, and the Elantra from Hyundai.

BTW, I like Kia and Hyundai, but their dealerships have bad reputation in the U.S. for a reason. But it all depends on the individual dealership. I bought a Kia Niro (their dedicated hybrid) in late 2017. And the experience was okay, but I was annoyed at how long it took and I think it was intentional to make me tired enough to agree to shit.

brawndolicious

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2020, 12:55:14 AM »
Basically what Tripon said, first set a budget for the total you want to spend rather than looking at down payments/monthly payments. Breaking the overall price into chunks is a trick that's used to get you to overpay for a car. Then look at what size, performance, features, etc you really care about and definitely test drive a bunch of models to get an idea for whether those things matter more or less in practice than in concept. A lot of people think they need a moon roof but then they never use it for example. Also, the only way to know if you'll like the ergonomics and driving characteristics of a particular car is to test drive it.

Also I would throw Mazda into consideration as their models have been great for the last few years. Before giving more advice, I guess we would need more input on what you want and also how many miles do you drive per year (IE: How much does MPG matter for you).

tiesto

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2020, 12:56:59 AM »
I've been a Honda/Acura owner ever since I've been old enough to drive... but when I was gonna get a Civic in 2014, I also decided to look at the Mazda 3 when searching for reviews of cars in a similar class and fell in love. My gf also went from a Honda Fit to a Mazda CX5, their cars are real fun to drive and price conscious.
^_^

Tripon

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2020, 01:25:58 AM »
If you want to spend $19000 total, and want your money to go farther in terms of features, how nice the car is, you can consider used luxury. $19000 can still get you a used mid 2010's ILX or TLX. The ILX is based on last gen Civic's models, while the TLX is based more on the Accord platform.

https://www.carmax.com/cars/acura

Prices on Carmax doesn't seem to crazy to me, but like I said, I don't know where exactly they were before the pandemic.

Snoopycat_

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2020, 07:54:39 AM »
When buying a car there's a few things you want to look for. Does it have a shotgun rack. Does it have a NASCAR bumper sticker. Most importantly though does it have bitchin flame decals and a Motley Crue cd. If it doesn't have decals and Crue then don't buy it, it's a gay mobile and you don't want one of them thrusting itself into your driveway

headwalk

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2020, 08:03:38 AM »
new cars are hideous. bulbous inflated monstrosities. wolves tamed into fat chocolate labradors sleeping and farting in front of the fire.

if i hit a kid at 30mph i want a proper right angle to know i'm getting the job done.

bork

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2020, 09:03:15 AM »
Rahx, do you have access to or know anyone with access to Consumer Reports?  They're a very reliable source for real car info.

I prefer hatchbacks to sedans for both the storage (although there's a lot of space in the newer Civics- my parents both have one) and form factor- just feels easier to back into spaces with hatchbacks, IMO.

For used purchases, would recommend going to a place like Carmax to test drive a vehicle, but buying one from Carvana.  Their whole purchasing process is easy and bullshit-free.  You can return cars you don't like within a week with zero hassle.  My last car purchase ended up being a new vehicle (returned one that just didn't cut it to Carvana), and I really missed them when I was at the dealership, lol.

new cars are hideous. bulbous inflated monstrosities. wolves tamed into fat chocolate labradors sleeping and farting in front of the fire.

Most cars (sold in the U.S.) are just boring to me nowadays.  It feels like they just keep on killing off models and just making crossovers and SUVs at this point.  Saw that even the good, cheap-ish reliable Honda Fit is no longer going to be sold here because "people can just buy the HR-V or Civic instead."

I do like some of the current hatchbacks like the Corolla:


And the Veloster:


But even they kind of look the same as each other.  Even still, the Honda Civics and even the Type-R just seem so...boring?  Uninspired?  I dunno what it is.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2020, 09:22:51 AM by bork »
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headwalk

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2020, 09:23:39 AM »
But even they kind of look the same as each other.  Even still, the Honda Civics and even the Type-R just seem so...boring?  Uninspired?  I dunno what it is.

safety mainly. they all will eventually become otherwise silent amorphous spheres that play ukelele jingles wherever they go.

Rahxephon91

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2020, 08:50:30 PM »
So I got a 2019 Honda Civic Sport.


Bebpo

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2020, 09:10:23 PM »
Congrats, looks rad!

james

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2020, 11:03:56 PM »
Did your uncle hook you up with a high interest 7 year loan?
:O

EightBitNate

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Re: Car Purchase Advice.
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2020, 01:12:33 AM »
We have so much in common, rahx. Both live in Chicago. Both own 2018-2019 Civics. When are you going to put a baby in me