Author Topic: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter? (Read 7188 times)

Shostakovich · « **on:** August 16, 2020, 03:21:52 PM »

I just noticed that the Taliban signed a peace deal in March, thus ending the single longest war in American history. Trump's reward for this was an onslaught of negative news about Russian sponsored assassinations in Afghanistan. Similarly, Trump was the first president since Bill Clinton to walk on North Korean soil. This gesture ultimately failed but rather than encourage the president to succeed, the media ridiculed him as a dictator lover. Trump aborted a global effort to oust Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela. And Trump tried so hard to normalize relations with Russia that he suffered years of libelous abuse for it from sniveling cowards like Mandark and Great Rumbler.

Love him or hate him, I can't think of a president who has tried harder to secure peace overseas in the past 40 years than the current occupant of the White House. If Obama can get the Nobel Peace Prize for starting a secret war in Yemen, shouldn't Trump get at least some recognition as a lover of peace?

BIONIC · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:29:18 PM »

Donald The Dove

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:41:43 PM »

I did like the North Korea story arc, that was full of twists, and the Syrian withdrawal.
Knocking Juan G only for Biden to leap to his defence

VomKriege · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:44:07 PM »

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/

"He didn't start any large scale needless war"

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:44:32 PM »

One day, maybe the mystery of Damascus Steel will be solved. For that Damascus must stand.

VomKriege · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:49:02 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 16, 2020, 03:46:06 PM

Quote from: VomKriege on August 16, 2020, 03:44:07 PM
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/

"He didn't start any large scale needless war"

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Quote from: From my link

As of May 18, the Trump administration had launched 40 airstrikes in Somalia in 2020 alone. That figure is made all the more staggering by the fact that, from 2007 through 2016, the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama conducted 41 airstrikes in Somalia total, according to reporting from Airwars.

And Suleimani too.

Mandark · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:49:48 PM »

"since Jimmy Carter" is the underrated part of this

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:53:10 PM »

I feel like trump shockingly has the lowest body count of recent US presidents but that’s a hunch not a fact

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:54:10 PM »

Quote from: Piss Benoit on August 16, 2020, 03:53:10 PM

I feel like trump shockingly has the lowest body count of recent US presidents but that’s a hunch not a fact

Instead he wracked up a body count of Americans, to mix things up.

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:55:32 PM »

KAG 2020

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:57:10 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 16, 2020, 03:56:34 PM

I think in the future, historians will rate Trump's presidency much more positively than people do right now.

The global juche superstate will reminisce fondly

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2020, 03:57:52 PM »

Quote from: OnlyRegret on August 16, 2020, 03:54:10 PM

Quote from: Piss Benoit on August 16, 2020, 03:53:10 PM
I feel like trump shockingly has the lowest body count of recent US presidents but that’s a hunch not a fact

Instead he wracked up a body count of Americans, to mix things up.

I don’t wanna come off like a trump dickrider here, but I suspect America would be in largely the same position re: the rona with Hillary or anyone else in charge as they are now

curly · « **Reply #12 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:05:36 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 16, 2020, 03:56:34 PM

I think in the future, historians will rate Trump's presidency much more positively than people do right now.

Well I know a guy who thinks that Trump is the greatest president ever, so it's going to be hard to go beyond that

Mandark · « **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:07:17 PM »

Quote from: curly on August 16, 2020, 04:05:36 PM

Well I know a guy who thinks that Trump is the greatest president ever

it's something you're hearing more and more

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I remember seeing some middle aged guys on FB say this back in 2017 or 2018 and being a little surprised they'd throw Reagan under the bus that quickly.

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Himu · « **Reply #14 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:07:54 PM »

What the fuck is this thread

Mandark · « **Reply #15 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:09:29 PM »

it's just trollin'

Don Rumata · « **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:09:44 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 16, 2020, 03:57:33 PM

Why are you doing this

Working his ass for a dose of that vaccine.

VomKriege · « **Reply #17 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:11:53 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 04:07:17 PM

Quote from: curly on August 16, 2020, 04:05:36 PM
Well I know a guy who thinks that Trump is the greatest president ever
it's something you're hearing more and more

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I remember seeing some middle aged guys on FB say this back in 2017 or 2018 and being a little surprised they'd throw Reagan under the bus that quickly.
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Reagan is pretty worn out at that point to qualify as a "recent patch of greatness". Trump is certainly memorable, the rose-tint version they'll paint of him in a decade is going to be

team filler · « **Reply #18 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:16:42 PM »

german women hate him

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #19 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:21:33 PM »

Well duh. Why do you think Clinton, Bush, and Obama hate him?

VomKriege · « **Reply #20 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:26:42 PM »

Quote from: Skullfuckers Anonymous on August 16, 2020, 04:21:33 PM

Well duh. Why do you think Clinton, Bush, and Obama hate him?

They're German women ?

curly · « **Reply #21 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:28:53 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 04:07:17 PM

Quote from: curly on August 16, 2020, 04:05:36 PM
Well I know a guy who thinks that Trump is the greatest president ever
it's something you're hearing more and more

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I remember seeing some middle aged guys on FB say this back in 2017 or 2018 and being a little surprised they'd throw Reagan under the bus that quickly.
[close]

Reagan didn't end the Obama depression and give us the greatest economy ever

I assume that's his reasoning

Himu · « **Reply #22 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:30:30 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 16, 2020, 04:09:29 PM

it's just trollin'

I know but still

Mandark · « **Reply #23 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:33:21 PM »

Quote from: curly on August 16, 2020, 04:28:53 PM

Reagan didn't end the Obama depression and give us the greatest economy ever

I assume that's his reasoning

Reagan brought down the Communist regime in Russia but Trump brought down the Communist regime in America, so.

curly · « **Reply #24 on:** August 16, 2020, 04:37:52 PM »

We still ended up with Putin and Obama so obviously it didn't stick

Nintex · « **Reply #25 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:03:51 PM »

Yeah if it wasn't for COVID-19 Trump's body count would be very low, his economy fine and he wouldn't have had any trouble getting re-elected.
In fact, the news right now would be the FBI lawyer pleading guilty to falsifying evidence against Carter Page and the Middle East peace deal.

It's crazy how Corona-Chan fucked everything up for him in such a short period of time.
And mostly because Jared Kushner thought it would hurt local and state governments more politically than the federal government.

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #26 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:10:01 PM »

We’ve all been gold pilled

Trent Dole · « **Reply #27 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:13:08 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 05:03:51 PM

Yeah if it wasn't for COVID-19 Trump's body count would be very low...

Obama was notoriously drone happy and Trump is even more so? Unless you mean deaths of Americans.

Nintex · « **Reply #28 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:20:03 PM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on August 16, 2020, 05:13:08 PM

Quote from: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 05:03:51 PM
Yeah if it wasn't for COVID-19 Trump's body count would be very low...
Obama was notoriously drone happy and Trump is even more so? Unless you mean deaths of Americans.

Obama early on had the intervention of Libya which puts him at a disadvantage.

Mandark · « **Reply #29 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:24:21 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 16, 2020, 05:03:51 PM

Yeah if it wasn't for COVID-19

But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?

samir · « **Reply #30 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:55:17 PM »

American's got a taste of their own medicine for once and they immediately start crying and shitting their pants

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #31 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:07:05 PM »

Not today, Satan!

team filler · « **Reply #32 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:07:06 PM »

Lonewulfeus · « **Reply #33 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:21:33 PM »

TIL Shosta shares his account with Assimilate

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #34 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:26:28 PM »

If you measure effectiveness by foreign death per dollar spent, he’s one of the worst ever. Very inefficient.

headwalk · « **Reply #35 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:37:28 PM »

this is absolute S+ tier shitposting and i can but stand in awe.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #36 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:04:18 PM »

Lonewulfeus · « **Reply #37 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:05:27 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 16, 2020, 06:39:50 PM

I dare anyone in this thread to quantify Obama's foreign policy against Trump's, in detail, and show that I'm wrong.

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Number of MOABs dropped:

Obama: 0
Trump: 1

Checkmate college intellectual.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #38 on:** August 16, 2020, 09:41:26 PM »

Number of MOBAs dropped:

Obama: 40+
Trump: I dunno, 5 or 6 probably.

benjipwns · « **Reply #39 on:** August 16, 2020, 10:44:45 PM »

You've given me a lot of think about, can I pass up the one chance that peace actually is on the ballot and my vote will decide the election?

team filler · « **Reply #40 on:** August 16, 2020, 10:51:59 PM »

you can't even spell it on this messageboard

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #41 on:** August 17, 2020, 12:00:17 AM »

I mean sure if you're not an American civilian or a foreign journalist on American soil or an American journalist on American soil or a refugee or...

bork · « **Reply #42 on:** August 17, 2020, 09:15:00 AM »

Is this a practice run for an Era thread?

Uncle · « **Reply #43 on:** August 17, 2020, 03:27:57 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 16, 2020, 03:21:52 PM

Love him or hate him, I can't think of a president who has tried harder to secure peace overseas in the past 40 years than the current occupant of the White House. If Obama can get the Nobel Peace Prize for starting a secret war in Yemen, shouldn't Trump get at least some recognition as a lover of peace?

https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576

Boredfrom · « **Reply #44 on:** August 17, 2020, 03:49:00 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 16, 2020, 03:57:33 PM

Why are you doing this

Bernie.

Boredfrom · « **Reply #45 on:** September 08, 2020, 09:00:28 PM »

But he is also selling weapons to the Saudis and has ties with the military complex...

benjipwns · « **Reply #46 on:** September 08, 2020, 09:09:34 PM »

FACT CHECK:

Quote from: joebiden.com

End Forever Wars: Biden will end the forever wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East, which have cost us untold blood and treasure. As he has long argued, Biden will bring the vast majority of our troops home from Afghanistan and narrowly focus our mission on Al-Qaeda and ISIS. And he will end our support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen. Staying entrenched in unwinnable conflicts only drains our capacity to lead on other issues that require our attention, and it prevents us from rebuilding the other instruments of American power.

Restore and Reimagine Partnerships: A Biden administration will do more than restore our historic partnerships; it will lead the effort to reimagine them for the future. This means keeping NATO’s military capabilities sharp, while also expanding our capacity to take on new, non-traditional threats like weaponized corruption, cyber theft, and new challenges in space and on the high seas; calling on all NATO nations to recommit to their responsibilities as members of a democratic alliance; and strengthening cooperation with democratic partners beyond North America and Europe by reaching out to our partners in Asia to fortify our collective capabilities and integrating our friends in Latin America and Africa. When the United States hosts the next Summit of the Americas in 2021, President Biden will harness this opportunity to rebuild strong hemispheric ties based on respect for democracy, human rights, and the rule of law. We will also strengthen our alliances with Japan, South Korea, Australia and other Asian democracies, while sustaining an ironclad commitment to Israel’s security.

team filler · « **Reply #47 on:** September 08, 2020, 09:52:06 PM »

Quote from: Stro on September 08, 2020, 09:10:21 PM

If I recall it wasn't long ago he was bragging about how many munitions and bombs he bought for the military because they had no bullets left thanks to Obama. And he's repeatedly asked about dropping a nuke just because and instead settled on the MOAB to show how tough he was.

that wasn't trumpy, that was the military

trumpy dodged the draft he's against war so much

team filler · « **Reply #48 on:** September 09, 2020, 08:43:29 AM »

https://twitter.com/StarBreaksNews/status/1303628600697131013

https://twitter.com/EmmaParkerUK/status/1303635043772960768

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #49 on:** September 09, 2020, 08:56:03 AM »

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A member of the pro-Israel parliamentary caucus Friends of Israel in the Parliament of Norway, Tybring-Gjedde has made appearances in pro-Israel demonstrations, and has criticised Foreign Minister Børge Brende for being "unbalanced" and "naive" in his approach to the conflict in Gaza.[38] He has called for rejecting any pressure to follow Sweden's move in 2014 of recognising Palestine prior to an agreement has been reached between the two parties in the conflict.[39] When Mads Gilbert was denied entry to Gaza through Israel the same year, Tybring-Gjedde voiced his understanding of Israel's decision, stating that the country had the full right to deny Gilbert entrance.[40] His fierce defence of Israel and rhetoric on Islam has led him to be compared to Dutch politician Geert Wilders by the Norwegian Centre Against Racism.

You two should hang out sometime, filler, I think you'd really get along.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #50 on:** September 09, 2020, 09:14:20 AM »

Didn't realize filler was z i o n i s t.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #51 on:** September 09, 2020, 09:20:07 AM »

It's hard to know what filler is when dank memes have rotted his soul.

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #52 on:** September 09, 2020, 10:33:42 AM »

Make The World Peaceful Again

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #53 on:** September 09, 2020, 11:33:59 AM »

Did the question to the thread ever get answered? I need closure.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #54 on:** September 09, 2020, 11:43:20 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on September 09, 2020, 11:33:59 AM

Did the question to the thread ever get answered? I need closure.

It was answered on the Discord.

BIONIC · « **Reply #55 on:** September 09, 2020, 11:50:15 AM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on September 09, 2020, 11:43:20 AM

Quote from: ToxicAdam on September 09, 2020, 11:33:59 AM
Did the question to the thread ever get answered? I need closure.

It was answered on the Discord.

Nintex · « **Reply #56 on:** September 09, 2020, 12:16:39 PM »

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"Trump has broken a 39-year-old streak of American Presidents either starting a war or bringing the United States an international armed conflict."

Donald the Dove!

2026

*feeeewwwpp BOOMMMM*

*ratatatata*

"NO we lost jimmy... Jimmy get up please... jimmy....."

"I'm sorry Mike we lost him"

"Noooooo... it's been 4 years... 4 years fighting against Iran.... the last member of my squad.... why tell me... why did we vote against Trump?"

"Well, he was generally a blowhard and insulted women and no one could've predicted Kamala Harris would hire John Bolton"

"Really NO ONE? FUCK"

"Excuse me Mike, I know you are going through a thing right now because you lost your white cis-gendered friend
but we have some audiosensitive people in our tank so please keep down the language yes?"

Nintex · « **Reply #57 on:** September 09, 2020, 07:14:58 PM »

Quote from: Stro on September 09, 2020, 06:54:08 PM

Do you ever feel bad about your posts

When it is over 30 characters and I get less than 4 likes

benjipwns · « **Reply #58 on:** September 10, 2020, 08:00:59 PM »

stost explain

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1303737162358292481

Nintex · « **Reply #59 on:** September 12, 2020, 08:53:55 AM »

I wonder what type of weapons they are and if Don Jr. will post a selfie at the test site to disclose them and #ownthelibs.

News:

Author Topic: Is Trump the most peaceful president since Jimmy Carter? (Read 7188 times)

Shostakovich