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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #241 on: November 09, 2020, 06:41:04 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #243 on: November 09, 2020, 07:51:36 PM »
Now they just need to find some substantial allegations.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #244 on: November 09, 2020, 08:06:17 PM »
Rudy is trying to have 800k ballots looked at in PA for which he has found 55 Republican poll watchers to testify under oath that they were not allowed to observe.
Their case seems to hinge on a claim that the identities and signatures were not properly checked for mail-in ballots but were for in-person votes, thus disenfranchising and disadvantaging in-person voting.
They're going for technical details which considering the volume and size of the operation could very well favor them.

Rudy is creative with these legal things. Remember that he somehow shielded Trump from ever being questioned by Mueller or handing over his tax returns.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #246 on: November 09, 2020, 08:34:40 PM »
Rudy had nothing to do with either of those things. Trump won't release his tax returns because there's no legal reason to force him to, he's just breaking long standing tradition. Mueller didn't have the authority to subpoena Trump but did get written testimony from him.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #247 on: November 09, 2020, 09:10:30 PM »
Rudy is trying to have 800k ballots looked at in PA for which he has found 55 Republican poll watchers to testify under oath that they were not allowed to observe.
Their case seems to hinge on a claim that the identities and signatures were not properly checked for mail-in ballots but were for in-person votes, thus disenfranchising and disadvantaging in-person voting.
They're going for technical details which considering the volume and size of the operation could very well favor them.

Rudy is creative with these legal things. Remember that he somehow shielded Trump from ever being questioned by Mueller or handing over his tax returns.

A friend of mine was a poll watcher in Philadelphia for the Democratic Party and said they only checked IDs if you were a first time voter or new to that precinct.  They’d also accept pretty much anything from a utility bill to a student ID.  If it was basically an address check I doubt this suit would have any merit.  Guess we’ll find out

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #248 on: November 09, 2020, 09:12:12 PM »
pole watcher summit now! ;)
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #249 on: November 09, 2020, 09:12:15 PM »
interesting that none of the "legit" challenges that are surfacing are anywhere near the conspiracy theorists' "LOOK DEY LET 15K DEAD PPL VOTE IN MISHGAN"
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #250 on: November 09, 2020, 09:12:25 PM »
Rudy is trying to have 800k ballots looked at in PA for which he has found 55 Republican poll watchers to testify under oath that they were not allowed to observe.
Their case seems to hinge on a claim that the identities and signatures were not properly checked for mail-in ballots but were for in-person votes, thus disenfranchising and disadvantaging in-person voting.
They're going for technical details which considering the volume and size of the operation could very well favor them.

Rudy is creative with these legal things. Remember that he somehow shielded Trump from ever being questioned by Mueller or handing over his tax returns.

come on bruh :neogaf
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #251 on: November 09, 2020, 09:16:59 PM »
None of them have been "legit". They've all been tossed out. They are 0-10+ so far on their challenges.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #252 on: November 09, 2020, 09:18:48 PM »
None of them have been "legit". They've all been tossed out. They are 0-10+ so far on their challenges.

that's why I put it in quotes, what I mean is what his professional legal teams think is their best bet is not the nonsense these internet detectives have tried to latch onto
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #253 on: November 09, 2020, 09:19:30 PM »
None of them have been "legit". They've all been tossed out. They are 0-10+ so far on their challenges.

But the law of averages says that one of them will eventually hit! And then it's game over for Sleepy Joe!
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #254 on: November 09, 2020, 09:29:22 PM »
The best they're going to get is a recount that maybe changes a couple hundred to thousand votes that won't do shit.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #255 on: November 09, 2020, 09:50:59 PM »

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« Reply #256 on: November 09, 2020, 10:20:02 PM »



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« Reply #258 on: November 10, 2020, 01:42:03 AM »
How hasn't someone made an emote out of this yet :tocry

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #260 on: November 10, 2020, 02:42:04 PM »
Smart people: Guys, what if Trump just doesnt leave

Poliera experts: Don't be silly, he doesnt have a choice

Trump: White House tells federal agencies to proceed with plans for Trump’s February budget in latest sign of election defiance
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #261 on: November 10, 2020, 02:48:41 PM »
Handy resource:
https://isthisacoup.com/
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #262 on: November 10, 2020, 02:50:50 PM »
The only one staging a coup is America's First Dictator Joe Biden and his fraudulent ballots

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #263 on: November 10, 2020, 02:54:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1326208130494193667


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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #264 on: November 10, 2020, 02:55:27 PM »
I for one can't believe Trump is willing to spend his political capital on a coup. How will this affect the down ballot races in 2022?

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #265 on: November 10, 2020, 03:00:34 PM »
if Biden won the election fairly, why are there still monkeys and why is it cold outside? checkmate libs
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #266 on: November 10, 2020, 03:01:23 PM »
The guy hasn't built his wall yet. He needs more time.


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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #267 on: November 10, 2020, 03:02:44 PM »
Handy resource:
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Ha, Drumpf outwitted by our magic dials once again!
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #268 on: November 10, 2020, 03:10:24 PM »
This mother fucker really is going to not leave

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #269 on: November 10, 2020, 03:20:02 PM »
I am calling on Canada to invade and bring us freedom poutines
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #270 on: November 10, 2020, 03:23:33 PM »
I am calling on Canada to invade and bring us freedom poutines

This doesn't even make any sense on its own terms but I still liked it because poutine.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #271 on: November 10, 2020, 03:51:59 PM »
when does trump legally lose the election? saw diamond joe bitching him out for being an embarrassment and not conceding, but i didn't realise conceding actually meant anything. how long can you stay president by just pretending you won and saying it's all a fix?

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #272 on: November 10, 2020, 03:55:36 PM »
when does trump legally lose the election? saw diamond joe bitching him out for being an embarrassment and not conceding, but i didn't realise conceding actually meant anything. how long can you stay president by just pretending you won and saying it's all a fix?

The electoral college votes on Dec 14th and the Senate confirms that vote on Jan 6th. Until then, sleepy creepy pedophile Joe is only the presumptive winner.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #273 on: November 10, 2020, 03:57:39 PM »
when does trump legally lose the election? saw diamond joe bitching him out for being an embarrassment and not conceding, but i didn't realise conceding actually meant anything. how long can you stay president by just pretending you won and saying it's all a fix?

It's a process, the first part is states certifying the votes.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #274 on: November 10, 2020, 03:59:44 PM »
Rudy is creative with these legal things. Remember that he somehow shielded Trump from ever being questioned by Mueller or handing over his tax returns.
Trump was questioned by Mueller.

And there's no legal requirement for Trump to make his tax returns public. How is Rudy creative in giving the same legal advice Trump had been receiving for years on that front?

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #275 on: November 10, 2020, 04:00:20 PM »
how long can you stay president by just pretending you won and saying it's all a fix?
Until the end of your term.

The "media can't call the election" thing is just a coping mechanism for the Trumpists in denial.

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« Reply #276 on: November 10, 2020, 04:10:49 PM »
how long can you stay president by just pretending you won and saying it's all a fix?
Until the end of your term.

The "media can't call the election" thing is just a coping mechanism for the Trumpists in denial.

The media had Al Gore as the winner for 54 days after the election. The media projects a winner, they don't call anything.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #277 on: November 10, 2020, 04:18:45 PM »
want obummer to be part of the bide admin so bad, or even just visiting the white house on a regular  :lawd

the cons reactions would be  :lawd
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #278 on: November 10, 2020, 04:20:07 PM »
when does trump legally lose the election? saw diamond joe bitching him out for being an embarrassment and not conceding, but i didn't realise conceding actually meant anything. how long can you stay president by just pretending you won and saying it's all a fix?

The electoral college votes on Dec 14th and the Senate confirms that vote on Jan 6th. Until then, sleepy creepy pedophile Joe is only the presumptive winner.

I think they're trying like hell to go for the faithless elector route.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #279 on: November 10, 2020, 04:20:29 PM »
He's not actually trying to prove the election was rigged, he's trying to achieve a narrative victory, like with birtherism.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #280 on: November 10, 2020, 04:20:57 PM »
The Trump voter fraud campaign is just one last attempt to grift their supporters out of money.

https://mobile.twitter.com/toddgillman/status/1326019818588409857

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #281 on: November 10, 2020, 04:21:02 PM »
moral/narrative victories are the best kind :trumps

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« Reply #282 on: November 10, 2020, 04:22:51 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #283 on: November 10, 2020, 04:27:18 PM »
how long can you stay president by just pretending you won and saying it's all a fix?
Until the end of your term.

The "media can't call the election" thing is just a coping mechanism for the Trumpists in denial.

The media had Al Gore as the winner for 54 days after the election. The media projects a winner, they don't call anything.

2000 was an excruciatingly close vote count in a single state with ballots that were stupid by design. Trump would have to somehow flip several states, all of which are nowhere near as close as Florida in 2000, and have ballots that are normal. They're absolutely right to call it in this case, and the Dem electors will be chosen in December on schedule.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #284 on: November 10, 2020, 04:31:37 PM »
no different than trumpy's supreme court picks. you can whine and cry about it all you want, but they're still going through  :mueller the dog n pony show is fun, but doesn't change anything in the end  :trumps
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #285 on: November 10, 2020, 04:38:30 PM »
I think they're trying like hell to go for the faithless elector route.
The 6D Chess plan is that Republican legislatures will send their own GOP Electors, so there's contested electors, then the GOP Senate will choose the GOP Electors and re-elect Trump.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #286 on: November 10, 2020, 04:50:12 PM »
He's not actually trying to prove the election was rigged, he's trying to achieve a narrative victory, like with birtherism.

They (collective organism of Trumpism) are just feeling out what they can do. Millions of tiny tentacles probing the system for weaknesses, exploiting whatever they find, using them to erode the defenses further, probing for the new weaknesses that exposed, repeat repeat repeat. There's no single goal. When Trump first got into birtherism was he even thinking it would take him all the way to the presidency?
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #287 on: November 10, 2020, 05:20:33 PM »
https://everylegalvote.com/





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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #288 on: November 10, 2020, 05:39:09 PM »
He's not actually trying to prove the election was rigged, he's trying to achieve a narrative victory, like with birtherism.

They (collective organism of Trumpism) are just feeling out what they can do. Millions of tiny tentacles probing the system for weaknesses, exploiting whatever they find, using them to erode the defenses further, probing for the new weaknesses that exposed, repeat repeat repeat. There's no single goal. When Trump first got into birtherism was he even thinking it would take him all the way to the presidency?

Young people are notoriously poor voters and making it easier to vote disproportionately benefits Democrats, so Repubs are agreeing with what Trump is saying and trying to disparage mail-in voting as insecure so it doesn't become more widely adopted in the 2024 election. Whether that's was Trump's primary concern or just his presidency's posthumous gift to the party so they'll roll with his accusations, hard to say. Depends on whether Trump is as big of an egoist as they say or if he considers the culture he's created as benefitting the party as a whole. Guess we'll know in a few years maybe.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #290 on: November 10, 2020, 05:49:47 PM »
Doesn't matter if it was 6 or 6 million, rigged is rigged!  :brain

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« Reply #291 on: November 10, 2020, 05:58:41 PM »
lol they found shosta's ballot get wrecked bitch
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« Reply #292 on: November 10, 2020, 06:02:55 PM »
The real game is to fuck things up enough that they somehow end up in the Supreme Court with 3 members of the Bush v. Gore Republican legal team (Brett, Amy, John) ruling.
Oh and Clarence who ruled in favor of the GOP back in 2000 and hates Joe Biden. That only leaves one to flip Alito (appointed by Bush) or Gorsuch (appointed by Trump).

And Trump of course told everybody this was the plan loudly
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Trump has speculated that the Supreme Court could face another major lawsuit over the November presidential contest. "I think this will end up at the Supreme Court," he said last month. "And I think it's very important that we have nine justices."

That's probably why people like Graham have said that Trump is allowed and has every right to pursue any legal means to make his case or whatever.
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« Reply #293 on: November 10, 2020, 06:07:06 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #294 on: November 10, 2020, 06:07:38 PM »
He's not actually trying to prove the election was rigged, he's trying to achieve a narrative victory, like with birtherism.

They (collective organism of Trumpism) are just feeling out what they can do. Millions of tiny tentacles probing the system for weaknesses, exploiting whatever they find, using them to erode the defenses further, probing for the new weaknesses that exposed, repeat repeat repeat. There's no single goal. When Trump first got into birtherism was he even thinking it would take him all the way to the presidency?

https://twitter.com/JackIngoldsby/status/1326284009022828571
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #296 on: November 10, 2020, 06:08:30 PM »
"This is totally unbiased. See, I even let Nevada stay blue"
Here's the guy explaining it to Lou:
https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1326294424398213122

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #297 on: November 10, 2020, 06:11:44 PM »
This is why I always send at least a dozen ballots. They cant catch them all!
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| The malarkey has been defeated
« Reply #298 on: November 10, 2020, 06:16:12 PM »
Cyber fraud  :vr

If there was no fraud lou would be President

This is why I always send at least a dozen ballots. They cant catch them all!
Wow, Lou is right we caught them red handed fraudin'
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« Reply #299 on: November 10, 2020, 06:24:29 PM »