Other Forums Containment Thread

[Potato]

All creatives should have the content of their works taken at face value to represent their personal politics, philosophies and beliefs.

[benjipwns]

Royalan is HERE for the voyeurism but don't you dare think about taking your pants off in his house without getting his explicit consent.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-neighbors-are-loud-and-have-anger-issues-too.564544/

The hotdog line really got him excited.

This would not hold up as a defence in any courtroom.

So why are y'all bothering is my real question.

This is a dumb track to go down.

Is this really a precedent we're going to set on ResetERA.com now?

[HaughtyFrank]

Royalan has become really unhinged. Proudly showing off his favoritism in every thread

[Potato]

Royalan has become really unhinged. Proudly showing off his favoritism in every thread

Well, he did make giant dads out of all the asexuals on Reeeeesetera when he made his triumphant return to the mod brotherhood...wait, is it even possible to make an asexual a giant dad?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

"Politics of Harry Potter" YouTube video thread is officially a "sensitive thread" now:

Thank god some random youtuber gish-galloping why harry potter is bad ackshually (and always has been, I knew it all along before any of you did ) doesn't count as propaganda, because bitch dubs hates that.

[HardcoreRetro]

Come on, the part in the first book where Harry talks to the snake and lets it go free is obviously him denouncing his manhood. Harry Potter has been a beautiful and brave trans woman all along.

[Potato]

Come on, the part in the first book where Harry talks to the snake and lets it go free is obviously him denouncing his manhood. Harry Potter has been a beautiful and brave trans woman all along.

The part where Harry uses the girls' bathroom is clearly a pro-trans statement in defiance of fucking bitch terf Joanne's transphobic rhetoric that is literally killing unborn trans kids.

[NekoFever]

Come on, the part in the first book where Harry talks to the snake and lets it go free is obviously him denouncing his manhood. Harry Potter has been a beautiful and brave trans woman all along.

The part where Harry uses the girls' bathroom is clearly a pro-trans statement in defiance of fucking bitch terf Joanne's transphobic rhetoric that is literally killing unborn trans kids.

I've seen them argue that the snake-like monster killing students in the girls' bathroom is a coded message.

[remy]

it is!!!! jk saw my hog !!!

[benjipwns]

We did it. Perfection in the "cancel culture" Discourse has been achieved:
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1505211148005777408
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1505563406375526400
https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1505622546753990659

[Propagandhim]

Who could have seen this coming? 

[Snoopycat_]

Ree thinks boomers invented property investment -

The writing was on the wall the moment every boomer started the mantra that "housing is an investment."

Once a place to live became a primary means of increasing one's net worth, this was the inevitable outcome. In the USA, it won't ever improve without massive government intervention or a significant population decline.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/right-now-in-east-jerusalem-israeli-settlers-are-forcing-palestinians-out-of-their-own-homes-this-is-ethnic-cleansing-before-our-eyes-happening-now.421892/page-89#post-83888017

Almost a year long thread, pinned, about a tenth of the replies

I don't know anymore, it's just incredibly demoralizing.

Containment thread working as intended.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Royalan is HERE for the voyeurism but don't you dare think about taking your pants off in his house without getting his explicit consent.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-neighbors-are-loud-and-have-anger-issues-too.564544/

The hotdog line really got him excited.

This would not hold up as a defence in any courtroom.

So why are y'all bothering is my real question.

This is a dumb track to go down.

Is this really a precedent we're going to set on ResetERA.com now?

Thread is stating to go places:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-neighbors-are-loud-and-have-anger-issues-too.564544/page-3#post-83982784

[benjipwns]

The argument and lack of respect for each other and their neighbours is terrible.

Recording this, uploading them to YouTube and posting them in a thread for ridicule is equally terrible.

Who cares if the recording is legal or not? Who cares if we can identify the people behind the voices? The OP is being distasteful posting the content.

Why is this even allowed here? Let alone a thread with a moderator actively posting.

For the same reason we allow multiple threads about and from members who don't know how to properly wipe their asses or solve simple family disputes.

If y'all wanna make a moral argument, as I said last night, fine.

But you're confusing a moral argument with a legal one.

How the hell do people think that's funny? And a mod too, jeez

Yeah, this thread isn't as funny as many people here seem to think it is. This is called domestic abuse and OP should be calling the cops every time it happens, instead of posting videos about it on forums.

It's kinda fucked up that we're laughing about domestic abuse on Resetera, of all places. Especially with the knowledge that there's a kid growing up in that mess.

Agreed completely. Lived in a similar experience, I eventually did call the cops when it sounded like one of them had severely hurt the other, an ambulance had to come and take away the girlfriend/wife and the guy was forced to move out. Was incredibly stressful and scary, but I'm glad I called the cops instead of waiting around or she might have died...

Look, I'm going to level with y'all (because this is something you say you want mods to do more often).

You can look through my post history and see that until a recent incident, I didn't have much of a history posting in MIMIC threads. I would post once or twice, if at all.

Because, tbh, MIMIC's threads are silly and ridiculous. Y'all aren't wrong about that. Same reason I don't post in most Weekend threads.

(also, don't do the thing where you assume that the mod posting in a thread is the only one watching or moderating it. Y'all are always wrong.)

The reason why you see me posting so frequently recently is because I have access to data (and can just see with my own eyes), the very thick, clear line between the level of scrutiny MIMIC's threads got before and after The Thing happened. I think several regular members have pointed out that they've noticed it too.

Regardless of whether or not you think it's wrong or that these threads shouldn't be allowed, it's just sad to me to see a member get targeted over something they had nothing to do with. MIMIC had nothing to do with it. I am telling y'all that, and we mods don't usually do this outside of selectively in CCD. That's how bad it's getting.

I won't say that explicitly targeting MIMIC is the motivation behind everyone criticizing his threads, because that's not true. But it is playing a bigger role than some people want to admit.

And so I would just ask that people consider that. And consider that fine tooth comb you're asking us to approach MIMIC with, and if y'all would want that applied site-wide to every unserious, "distasteful" thread. Just think about that, that's all I ask.

This is awful, and recording it for any reason other than as evidence for law enforcement is awful.

since this thread is now on a mod sanctioned derail, what on earth is “the thing”

This thread is suddenly lore heavy, I need to skim the wiki to understand wtf is going on.

Look I’m coming from this were I didn’t actually care about MIMIC’s other threads, mostly enjoyed them even if he did sometimes seem a wee bit naïve. I also thought that other poster deserved that band and thought it was disingenuous that posters were trying to compare “the boy’s locker” threads and MIMIC thread, as if they were remotely similar and posters acting like they didn’t know just how bad and dehumanising to women those threads were (not surprising mostly male posters doing it but I digress) I am really just looking at this thread, that I do I was the guy who was being yelled at by my significant other and had my neighbour posting videos of it online so that Era can laughter at my small penis which is happening in this thread, it would hurt. This just isn’t taking domestic abuse with the seriousness it requires, and that’s not just on the OP but how other posters are making jokes in this thread too. I’m not targeting MIMIC here when I say that this thread is just really not needed the way it’s currently set up

I don't care about Blamespace or Mimic but letting people post recordings of domestic abuse on this forum for shits and giggles should be a line you don't cross regardless of who the poster is. Fine tooth comb is not needed just some common sense and decency.

Basically my stance, I don't know who Mimic is but this thread just feels extremely inappropriate.

I understand where you're coming from and if you look at my post history you'll see I like wise avoid posting in his threads but personally I think if you ignore who made it and focus on the content of the thread it's gross. Like Fiction said, this is abuse. I don't care if its legal or not, the moral arguement is important. No one should be finding this funny, frankly, nor do I think this is in line w/ the values I'd associate with this forum. Like Fiction said, if this was a man abusing a woman I feel like the reaction would be different...

As someone who has been the one getting treated like this it's pretty uncomfortable that people are just joking and laughing about it. It's really not that hard to put yourself in the man's shoes and think about how you'd feel getting treated like this by your spouse. It sucks.

Surely ERA can do better than this.

For what it's worth, I have no idea who MIMIC is or what this "The Thing" is that's being referenced. I rarely venture into the Etcetera forum.

My problem is entirely how this topic is being treated. To call it merely distasteful is being very generous. OP can still be considered to have merely made a bad judgement call, especially because they were not the one who made a joke out of it. My bigger issue is that other users, and especially a moderator, thought it was appropriate to laugh ("SCREAMING" and "Then I'm on her side. I don't even know what it's about. But she's correct.") about domestic abuse. Domestic abuse is not a joke. It ruins lives and it leaves children with scars and emotional problems that they carry around with them for the rest of their lives. People get injured and killed every single day in domestic disputes.

What's funny about that? I know I'm not perfect either and I've gotten my fair share of warnings for posts that were over the line, and I've put my foot in my mouth more times than I can count, but I expect better from a forum that prides itself on progressive values. I made Era my primary forum/social network for gaming precisely because I wanted to be in a space that finds progressive values important, especially considering how few such places exist. Joking about a very real case of domestic abuse, and downplaying it as merely "distasteful", crosses a line for me.

Seperate the MIMIC/"The Thing" issue from this thread, and it's still not a thread I expected to see here.

I've read all of your responses, and noted.

I'm currently at work, and mods tend to make these types of decisions as a group, so don't think anything if you don't see quick movement (heck, the thread might not even get closed who knows), but it will be considered.

As for being "the mod" who thought the thread was funny. Yeah, I did think that specific line was funny. I don't, however, think domestic abuse is funny. And I will consider, personally, how and why I was able to reconcile those two things.

In meantime, I meant what I posted about MIMIC. The increased scrutiny around him, and especially when it started, just feels bad to watch unfold.

The desire to shield MIMIC from people with a grievance about blamespace has unintentionally resulted in having a thread kept open where we're invited to laugh at domestic abuse, with a child involved no less.

Abuse that's not only recorded once in a 'this is annoying, here's an example of what I have to deal with' manner, but instead serialised across six separate videos. It's just weird and (imo) unnecessary to post to a public forum for entertainment.

Under normal circumstances you'd imagine this would be the domain of a 'We don't need to do this' style of mod closure.

Edit: Royalan with the quick ninja

Well, notwithstanding how much of an absolute hot fucking mess this thread is even with admin, uh, I would definitely not want to be the guy literally being verbally abused by his partner only to find out it was posted on the internet for even additional ridicule by absolute stranger

Edit: Royalan you were one of the first people in this thread saying, and I’m paraphrasing, “I’m on her side for that line alone and I don’t even know what’s going on” and “yes this video needed to be posted”, come on now

Why would you even share this on the Internet.

Era laughing about the guy getting screamed and shouted at by his wife, and having a fun day about it, is super typical, sadly. If it would be the guy shouting, this discussion would go wildly different.

It feels incredibly inappropriate to make a thread out of this. It's basically creating entertainment out domestic abuse, nevermind the fact that there is a child involved.

Look. Talk to the landlord. Call the police. Do something at least instead of making videos for random people to watch. This is pretty fucked up.

Genuinely appalled that we're cool with uploading other people's drama without their consent just for us to have some shits and giggles at a guy taking constant abuse. Real fucking cool. Totally not the sort of shit I'd expect for 4chan instead

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

 

How is royaleflan so fucking bad at this?

"Uhhh... I don't think it's cool to be secretly recording people for entertainment value, then having a good laugh - FROM A MOD NO LESS - about domestic abuse just because its a dude getting called small dicked"
"Y'ALL JUST SALTY 'BOUT DAT BLAMESPACE BAN"

[HaughtyFrank]

As for being "the mod" who thought the thread was funny. Yeah, I did think that specific line was funny. I don't, however, think domestic abuse is funny. And I will consider, personally, how and why I was able to reconcile those two things.

[Joe Molotov]

The last time I saw a domestic dispute thread that funny was when MIMIC posting about banging married dudes on Grindr!

[benjipwns]

For a forum so big on accountability culture they sure do like to go with "no, it's the users who are wrong" reasoning.

[Shuri]

Why is MIMIC posting domestic abuse vids online? Isn't that guy a lawyer too? I remember reading his posts a lot about legal stuff back then.

The fuck happened to this guy?

[HaughtyFrank]

This thread is a multipart issue. On one hand, clear cases of domestic should not be made light of and the authorities should be contacted.

On the other hand, the vitriol thrown at the OP is unacceptable. You can have a discussion and give the OP advice on how to handle the situation without resorting to personal attacks and unrelated threads of theirs.

This thread is now locked to any further discussion.

The fuck are you talking about?

"Kind of fucked up to post this"

Mods: "First of all, wow. No need to attack the OP with such vitriol. Shame on you"

[benjipwns]

The staff is so weird.

[BisMarckie]

The staff is so weird.

How can you say this without access to the proprietary secret data that royalan has?

[nobody of note]

It's a good thing cancel culture doesn't exist, because Royalan spent most of that thread acting like he was fighting against members trying to cancel MIMIC and going so far as to ignore the whole abuse angle to keep fighting the cancellation. But he couldn't have been, because cancel culture is not a thing and so nobody needs to be protected from it.

Also unsurprisingly given how flagrantly Royalan shat the bed, and the lock message doing its best to try to both sides the bad behavior, Constructive thread gathering some posts:

NVM, it's being adressed.

Edit: I know I should probably let this go, but in no world do I think it's okay for a moderator to say to users "I said what I said, and y'all really need to get over it." when they're being called out for making light of an issue as serious as domestic abuse, which many users here might have been victims of themselves.

That level of insensitivity and tone-deafness is shocking. If I were to make a post like that in a topic as serious as that, I wouldn't bother checking back on the forum because I would assume a permanent ban would have followed. And I'm not calling for anyone to be banned, demodded or whatever, but I do think this incident is something the staff need to take a closer look at. It's a conversation the staff needs to have, if not with us, then among yourselves. No need to report back on the outcome either. I just think it's important that it isn't left there, because while the behavior was called "distasteful" in that thread, the word that more accurately describes it is "harmful".

In relation to this, just pointing out specific bullet points from the actual Era Site policies that

"Dismissive or disruptive behavior in these threads will be usually be met with a ban. The following are examples of such behavior:
Lamenting or mocking the sensitivity or "outrage" of others in reference to legitimate concerns, or claiming that members are pretending to be offended.
Condescendingly talking down to people who are affected by sensitive issues."
The mod team really needs some introspection on what happened in that thread, not just from a thousand-mile high standpoint, but how it reconciles with its own site policies.

Curious to see if this has staying power

[ShutUp]

The difference there is that the person going through the abuse is in no way affected by these recordings.

Man that person on the receiving end of the domestic abuse just doesn’t have it as rough as me, the person who, uh, has to listen to it from afar.

 

Look. People need a reason to shit up every mimic thread because a shit poster got banned. This is the best they got.

That’s what you took from people rightfully pointing out how messed up it is to post those videos?

[Taco Bell Tower]

The desire to shield MIMIC from people with a grievance about blamespace

Kyuuji makes it sound like blamespace died

[benjipwns]

Teiresias really concern trolling there by quoting from the forum FAQ.

[Propagandhim]

Something perversely cruel about MIMIC snickering in the backdrop of that woman in a screaming conniption while her child is crying from the trauma.  How could any normal person even see this as funny for 1 second?



You're a fucking loser, Royalan.  How do you laugh at this shit and then try to morally grandstand over people everywhere else.  Go see a therapist, fat.

[joeboy101]

This post was amazing, so wonderful to see right before the lock.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-neighbors-are-loud-and-have-anger-issues-too.564544/post-83986288

But if you or anyone else is trying to insinuate that what he did is wrong for legal reasons, then I need to see receipts.

Also curious about the legal argument happening earlier on, I can't seem to find anything suggesting this would be legal? I am not a lawyer of course but on a quick google search it seems dubious at best?

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-i-legally-record-on-my-iphone-my-neighbors-lou-4968124.html

In your example I would lean towards no. The problem that you have is your are still recording a private conversation, where the person having the conversation likely still has the expectation of privacy.
Then there is the issue of how the recording is being handled. Example are placing your phone up against the wall, then the answer is most definitely no. If your phone is in the middle of the room and you are recording your own V-log, and then you are interrupted by your neighbor's loud voice. That would likely be different.
But I am concerned that how you have worded your question that you may have inadvertently already committed a felony. Should you play that recording, you could be creating a 2nd felony.
If anything you should file a complaint via an attorney to the management company to deal with the problem.

Sorry, you're late and wrong. Of courses Royalan looked into the legality issue before going HAM on any voices of concern in this thread bringing up the difference between incidental and deliberate recordings. Just like he thought deeply about how he can laugh at domestic abuse while not thinking domestic abuse is funny before going on a posting spree.

 

[benjipwns]

That’s what you took from people rightfully pointing out how messed up it is to post those videos?

Something perversely cruel about MIMIC snickering in the backdrop of that woman in a screaming conniption while her child is crying from the trauma.  How could any normal person even see this as funny for 1 second?

You're a fucking loser, Royalan.  How do you laugh at this shit and then try to morally grandstand over people everywhere else.  Go see a therapist, fat.

FACT CHECK: Posting the videos may not be expressly illegal and your "defence" would not hold up in court. Ya'll just salty about blamespace getting what he deserved and the fact that a gay man is being hilarious with his threads.

[Klelk]

The mod team looked into the domestic abuse in detail, in the same way they can remotely detect alcohol levels of drunk drivers

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/idiot-jumps-a-tesla-wrecks-half-a-street-and-now-police-are-looking-for-them.564634/#post-83985160

Hey Tesla drivers, this is why the world hates you (among others).

From the source used in the OP

The rented 2018 Tesla was abandoned at the scene.

Just read the title and throw in hot takes as usual.

[ShutUp]

And Mimic is a lawyer and posting those vids? 

[Uncle]

You're a fucking loser, Royalan.  How do you laugh at this shit and then try to morally grandstand over people everywhere else.  Go see a therapist, fat.

wait is this true, am I finding out just now that Royalan is fat?

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-neighbors-are-loud-and-have-anger-issues-too.564544/

User banned (1 day): Inappropriate thread creation

Now they slapped Mimic with the absolute minimum ban to calm the waves 

[Taco Bell Tower]

One day ban

I am SCREAMING

[HaughtyFrank]

Something perversely cruel about MIMIC snickering in the backdrop of that woman in a screaming conniption while her child is crying from the trauma.  How could any normal person even see this as funny for 1 second?

(Image removed from quote.)

You're a fucking loser, Royalan.  How do you laugh at this shit and then try to morally grandstand over people everywhere else.  Go see a therapist, fat.

Don't forget this part

Wait.

In video 3...

Did she call him a "fuckin hot dog ass nicca"?

I am SCREAMING.

lol yes

Then I'm on her side.

I don't even know what it's about.

But she's correct.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-neighbors-are-loud-and-have-anger-issues-too.564544/post-83969857

Moderator proudly taking the side of the abuser. Fucking hilarious

[ShutUp]

Posting videos of in progress abuse (with a kid screaming in the background!) gets you a one whole day ban. Fucking incredible.

[BisMarckie]

Posting videos of in progress abuse (with a kid screaming in the background!) gets you a one whole day ban. Fucking incredible.

Stop with the concern trolling. Realistically we are talking about what? A couple of bruises, maybe?

Making light of that situation is not as severe as posting that you are excited for a game that will help fund the ongoing trans genocide by Joanne.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-neighbors-are-loud-and-have-anger-issues-too.564544/

User banned (1 day): Inappropriate thread creation

Now they slapped Mimic with the absolute minimum ban to calm the waves 

But he was never found guilty of inappropriate thread creation in a court of law! WITCH HUNT!

[Taco Bell Tower]

Messofanego:

Non-lawyers lawsplaining to an actual lawyer was not the twist I was expecting in this thread.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

As for being "the mod" who thought the thread was funny. Yeah, I did think that specific line was funny. I don't, however, think domestic abuse is funny. And I will consider, personally, how and why I was able to reconcile those two things.

(Image removed from quote.)

The answer is toxic masculinity.

[HaughtyFrank]

As for being "the mod" who thought the thread was funny. Yeah, I did think that specific line was funny. I don't, however, think domestic abuse is funny. And I will consider, personally, how and why I was able to reconcile those two things.

(Image removed from quote.)

The answer is toxic masculinity.

Reminder that the people who made "haha small guys" jokes (and those who dared to laugh at them) were banned for 1-2 weeks each 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-tekken-pro-player-gets-kicked-out-of-her-team-after-declaring-that-men-under-170-cms-dont-have-human-rights.553861/post-82251658

[Averon]

Messofanego:

Non-lawyers lawsplaining to an actual lawyer was not the twist I was expecting in this thread.

Messo may be even worse than Red Mercury when it comes to being a mod suck up.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Lol JK will literally just share anyone that supports her transphobic narrative with no research

wow, just sharing someone elses tweet without researching it, what a crackers eating bitch, thats definitely a thing nobody on era would ever do, fucking repeatedly, across multiple topics, but without even adding context as to why they're sharing some randos tweet

[Drainage]

Slayven furious about the Tesla crash hitting some trash cans because he is a person who frequently has to clean the trash up when wind and animals scatter it about

[Cauliflower Of Love]

You guys ever wonder when you stand up you get shot down?

It happened.

Be alive.

[joeboy101]

Apologies if I don't further engage, but I feel that I do owe at least this.

I don't want it to be thought that I don't understand the pain of verbal abuse. I have also both witnessed and experienced it. I grew up a femme Black queer kid in a rough neighborhood; I have experienced verbal abuse that escalated into full-on physical abuse, from peers and loved ones. I still get it just walking down the street. I have also experienced domestic abuse. I mean, to be a mod is to learn to tolerate a certain level of "verbal" abuse.

These experiences, especially from a Queer Black perspective, have come in handy on many occasions. But they have also rendered me dissensitized to certain things. Perhaps overly so. Two things are true: I did think that line I quoted was funny. But your subsequent responses to me also made me begin to question why. Which is why my last two posts in that thread were what they were. I was not made to post that; I did it on my own after reading your responses to my post. And as harsh as they were, I do appreciate them.

As for my "I said what i said" line, that was flippant. It was in response to me waking up for my early shift and seeing that I had been quoted along with a post from Fiction with a reaction meme that seemed more intent on pitting me against a former member of the mod team who I've always had the utmost respect for (even if/when we disagree), than criticizing me directly. I apologize if that only added to the perception that I was being dismissive of the very idea of domestic abuse. I will take that to heart.

Finally, one other thing I've been wanting to say. I was a day 1 member of the mod team; I remember being in the Discord when we first opened the doors, and were unsure if this idea of a site was even going to take off. And I remember how excited we all were when several prolific members started posting here. Blame Space was undeniably one of those people. His first posts here elicited a reaction among us. I say that to say, banning him was hard. It was a very difficult thing for us to do and it was not done lightly. Likewise, being able to visually see the backlash MIMIC received as a result of it happening in one of his threads has also been hard to watch, for me personally.

Mods don't typically publicly announce when we recuse ourselves from certain topics, but I'm going to recuse myself from MIMIC threads. I have not actioned anyone in a MIMIC thread, but as I said, circumstances have effected me personally when it comes to those discussions, and that I can't outright deny that it's effecting how i approach these discussions is enough for me. I just know that I don't want to ever come off as insensitive, especially to topics like this.

Pretty much all ‘you all just don’t understand’… as well as

 

[nobody of note]

Edit: dammit; leaving the corpse of my dup post up anyway

Constructive didn't really heat up, but Royalan does pop in to explain himself, recuse from future MIMIC threads because he realizes he's biased, and to do the obligatory ERA staff member making sure everyone knows how hard everything is for them:

Yeah, the whole thing is incredibly disturbing. As someone who grew up in a house in which domestic abuse was the norm, it's rough to see a topic like this here, let alone watch a mod laugh at it and talk down to members who had a problem with the thread. Domestic abuse isn't funny, even if some creepily recorded and shared line strikes you as a zinger. Real people are dealing with awful shit behind those walls and to treat it like it's a hilarious reality show or something is just vile. Glad the thread was shut down but I'm horrified that this is the behavior we're seeing from some leadership here.

Apologies if I don't further engage, but I feel that I do owe at least this.

I don't want it to be thought that I don't understand the pain of verbal abuse. I have also both witnessed and experienced it. I grew up a femme Black queer kid in a rough neighborhood; I have experienced verbal abuse that escalated into full-on physical abuse, from peers and loved ones. I still get it just walking down the street. I have also experienced domestic abuse. I mean, to be a mod is to learn to tolerate a certain level of "verbal" abuse.

These experiences, especially from a Queer Black perspective, have come in handy on many occasions. But they have also rendered me dissensitized to certain things. Perhaps overly so. Two things are true: I did think that line I quoted was funny. But your subsequent responses to me also made me begin to question why. Which is why my last two posts in that thread were what they were. I was not made to post that; I did it on my own after reading your responses to my post. And as harsh as they were, I do appreciate them.

As for my "I said what i said" line, that was flippant. It was in response to me waking up for my early shift and seeing that I had been quoted along with a post from Fiction with a reaction meme that seemed more intent on pitting me against a former member of the mod team who I've always had the utmost respect for (even if/when we disagree), than criticizing me directly. I apologize if that only added to the perception that I was being dismissive of the very idea of domestic abuse. I will take that to heart.

Finally, one other thing I've been wanting to say. I was a day 1 member of the mod team; I remember being in the Discord when we first opened the doors, and were unsure if this idea of a site was even going to take off. And I remember how excited we all were when several prolific members started posting here. Blame Space was undeniably one of those people. His first posts here elicited a reaction among us. I say that to say, banning him was hard. It was a very difficult thing for us to do and it was not done lightly. Likewise, being able to visually see the backlash MIMIC received as a result of it happening in one of his threads has also been hard to watch, for me personally.

Mods don't typically publicly announce when we recuse ourselves from certain topics, but I'm going to recuse myself from MIMIC threads. I have not actioned anyone in a MIMIC thread, but as I said, circumstances have effected me personally when it comes to those discussions, and that I can't outright deny that it's effecting how i approach these discussions is enough for me. I just know that I don't want to ever come off as insensitive, especially to topics like this.

I get that him saying he's coming to these decisions on his own is supposed to make him look good/caring, but all it does is underscore that Era staff has zero interest or ability in actually formally holding themselves to standards. Everything is self-defined consequences, which are worthless--Royalan declaring his recusal is about as consequential as that time he stepped down from moderating for a minute, and if he decides to unrecuse there's no reason to think admin staff will do anything other than cheer him on because they know he's a good guy regardless.

[joeboy101]

Also…

I say that to say, banning him was hard. It was a very difficult thing for us to do and it was not done lightly.

What flagellating bullshit. Let’s recall that post beyond the pale that blamespace made in the sensitive thread of Mimic Tindering to break up a marriage:

is this locker room talk

And let’s not forget the Moderator post that closed the thread after they derailed it with banning blamespace,

This thread has clearly been derailed; Move along people.
blame space has a a very long history of trolling, this ban does not stand in isolation. That is all I am going to say on the matter.
Have a great week!
The thread will remain locked.

Yessss, very difficult and CERTAINLY not done lightly. Have a great week, indeed!

[Propagandhim]

I mean you keep picking shitty mods that can't remove themselves from their intense, compulsive identification with certain topics.  Nepenthe is mentally incapable of moderating a single thread about race without slipping into her revenge fantasies.  Royalan can't remove his queer identity from any threads, to an intense fault.  All we have left is Slayven, and by god, the poor guy can't read a thread in order to moderate it.  It's like making a child mow the lawn before he can handle the lawnmower - you're too cheap to call someone competent to do it because all he needs is a little push, but you just know if you keep pushing he's going to hurt himself.

[Snoopycat_]

It’s never going to stop being entertaining watching clowns like Royalan reaping the consequences of the community they shaped. Maybe if the mods had clamped down on the nutters instead of indulging them, Royalan would be able to laugh at the woman’s funny, instead of having to go on apology tours every time he opens his fat gob

[HaughtyFrank]

Edit: dammit; leaving the corpse of my dup post up anyway

Constructive didn't really heat up, but Royalan does pop in to explain himself, recuse from future MIMIC threads because he realizes he's biased, and to do the obligatory ERA staff member making sure everyone knows how hard everything is for them:

Yeah, the whole thing is incredibly disturbing. As someone who grew up in a house in which domestic abuse was the norm, it's rough to see a topic like this here, let alone watch a mod laugh at it and talk down to members who had a problem with the thread. Domestic abuse isn't funny, even if some creepily recorded and shared line strikes you as a zinger. Real people are dealing with awful shit behind those walls and to treat it like it's a hilarious reality show or something is just vile. Glad the thread was shut down but I'm horrified that this is the behavior we're seeing from some leadership here.

Apologies if I don't further engage, but I feel that I do owe at least this.

I don't want it to be thought that I don't understand the pain of verbal abuse. I have also both witnessed and experienced it. I grew up a femme Black queer kid in a rough neighborhood; I have experienced verbal abuse that escalated into full-on physical abuse, from peers and loved ones. I still get it just walking down the street. I have also experienced domestic abuse. I mean, to be a mod is to learn to tolerate a certain level of "verbal" abuse.

These experiences, especially from a Queer Black perspective, have come in handy on many occasions. But they have also rendered me dissensitized to certain things. Perhaps overly so. Two things are true: I did think that line I quoted was funny. But your subsequent responses to me also made me begin to question why. Which is why my last two posts in that thread were what they were. I was not made to post that; I did it on my own after reading your responses to my post. And as harsh as they were, I do appreciate them.

As for my "I said what i said" line, that was flippant. It was in response to me waking up for my early shift and seeing that I had been quoted along with a post from Fiction with a reaction meme that seemed more intent on pitting me against a former member of the mod team who I've always had the utmost respect for (even if/when we disagree), than criticizing me directly. I apologize if that only added to the perception that I was being dismissive of the very idea of domestic abuse. I will take that to heart.

Finally, one other thing I've been wanting to say. I was a day 1 member of the mod team; I remember being in the Discord when we first opened the doors, and were unsure if this idea of a site was even going to take off. And I remember how excited we all were when several prolific members started posting here. Blame Space was undeniably one of those people. His first posts here elicited a reaction among us. I say that to say, banning him was hard. It was a very difficult thing for us to do and it was not done lightly. Likewise, being able to visually see the backlash MIMIC received as a result of it happening in one of his threads has also been hard to watch, for me personally.

Mods don't typically publicly announce when we recuse ourselves from certain topics, but I'm going to recuse myself from MIMIC threads. I have not actioned anyone in a MIMIC thread, but as I said, circumstances have effected me personally when it comes to those discussions, and that I can't outright deny that it's effecting how i approach these discussions is enough for me. I just know that I don't want to ever come off as insensitive, especially to topics like this.

I get that him saying he's coming to these decisions on his own is supposed to make him look good/caring, but all it does is underscore that Era staff has zero interest or ability in actually formally holding themselves to standards. Everything is self-defined consequences, which are worthless--Royalan declaring his recusal is about as consequential as that time he stepped down from moderating for a minute, and if he decides to unrecuse there's no reason to think admin staff will do anything other than cheer him on because they know he's a good guy regardless.

Since RE always loves to overanalyze apologies I'd like to do the same. Like noticing that he actually doesn't admit to any fault in this whole thing. Just that it sure is curious how it "came off" like he was dismissing domestic abuse and that his own history is now meant to absolve him of any wrong.

Fact of the matter is that people got banned for far, far, faaaaaaaaaaaaaar less than laughing, cheering and taking the side of an abuser, doubling down and telling people to "get over it" but when it happens with a mod this "not really apology" is meant to be good enough. Consequences for thee but never for me

[HardcoreRetro]

More like Royalard.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Apologies if I don't further engage, but I feel that I do owe at least this.

I don't want it to be thought that I don't understand the pain of verbal abuse. I have also both witnessed and experienced it. I grew up a femme Black queer kid in a rough neighborhood; I have experienced verbal abuse that escalated into full-on physical abuse, from peers and loved ones. I still get it just walking down the street. I have also experienced domestic abuse. I mean, to be a mod is to learn to tolerate a certain level of "verbal" abuse.

These experiences, especially from a Queer Black perspective, have come in handy on many occasions. But they have also rendered me dissensitized to certain things. Perhaps overly so. Two things are true: I did think that line I quoted was funny. But your subsequent responses to me also made me begin to question why. Which is why my last two posts in that thread were what they were. I was not made to post that; I did it on my own after reading your responses to my post. And as harsh as they were, I do appreciate them.

As for my "I said what i said" line, that was flippant. It was in response to me waking up for my early shift and seeing that I had been quoted along with a post from Fiction with a reaction meme that seemed more intent on pitting me against a former member of the mod team who I've always had the utmost respect for (even if/when we disagree), than criticizing me directly. I apologize if that only added to the perception that I was being dismissive of the very idea of domestic abuse. I will take that to heart.

Finally, one other thing I've been wanting to say. I was a day 1 member of the mod team; I remember being in the Discord when we first opened the doors, and were unsure if this idea of a site was even going to take off. And I remember how excited we all were when several prolific members started posting here. Blame Space was undeniably one of those people. His first posts here elicited a reaction among us. I say that to say, banning him was hard. It was a very difficult thing for us to do and it was not done lightly. Likewise, being able to visually see the backlash MIMIC received as a result of it happening in one of his threads has also been hard to watch, for me personally.

Mods don't typically publicly announce when we recuse ourselves from certain topics, but I'm going to recuse myself from MIMIC threads. I have not actioned anyone in a MIMIC thread, but as I said, circumstances have effected me personally when it comes to those discussions, and that I can't outright deny that it's effecting how i approach these discussions is enough for me. I just know that I don't want to ever come off as insensitive, especially to topics like this.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cd-projekt-red-announces-a-new-witcher-game-that-is-the-first-in-a-new-saga-built-on-unreal-engine-5.564712/page-10#post-84004030

Ok but more importantly than replacing the engine: replace the transphobes and the people handing down crunch. Wake me when that happens.

Fuck CDPR.

Maybe CDPR will not be transphobic by 2030 when this launches

Can only hope, though there's not really any indication they learned a lesson from CP2077 on that. You'd think there would be less avenues within the Witcher to actively gloat and revel in that bigotry, though I'm sure they could surprise me.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Is she begging for this new Witcher game already?

[Averon]

I'm sure Kyuuji will new-game plus the game to *AHEM* check all the terrible transphobia CDPR will surely have in there. You know, just to be sure.

[Pissy F Benny]

actively gloat and revel in that bigotry

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-leatherface-in-the-new-texas-chainsaw-massacre-the-most-athletic-random-human-senior-citizen-ever-in-a-film-spoilers-lol.564667/#post-84000781

The new Halloween's made their super old guy apparently supernatural so I'd say pretty athletic and a senior citizen. Especially after being stabbed, shot, beaten by a mob and then teleporting/running/sneaking into the upstairs house surrounded by cops.

Both Halloween Kills and this new TCM are awful. The only good thing about HK was the mob felt very MAGA-based and seeing them lose in the end was nice.