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[benjipwns]

oh my god

This is the thing that really opened my eyes to how insidious and far reaching it all really is. I was watch Kat Blaque talk about skin care for black women and how the lack of choices for women of color was an implicit statement that black skin wasn't beautiful and I chewed on that for a good while. How something so small and unnoticed can have such a profound effect on people. It's made me stop and think about *a lot* of the world around me.

Me of 8 years ago would probably see some of your posts Nep and think that you're being overly dramatic and emotional. That you're just being stupid but the wiser me, the one that see a Trans woman of color understands how much shit you and others like you have to deal with and *I get it*.

We may not always see eye to eye politically but I'm thankful for people like Kat and now FD whom I just found for helping peel back layers of life that I don't see or experience.

Those of you not sure about the length shake that feeling off. Not everything can be digested and talked about in five minutes and that's ok. The knowledge and introspection gained from this kind of stuff can change your life for the better.

[maninthemirror]

That photo looks like a good time though.

Regardless, Vaush told on himself in the Professor Flowers debate and a few other times that he thinks Black autonomy is basically the equivalent of white genocide revenge fantasies, which really underlies the point-

White people of all political stripes are absolutely scared to death that Black people want to take revenge for all the shit that's happened these past few centuries. Which in itself is an own goal, an admittance that they are responsible for these atrocities and that there might actually be a moral justification for these feelings. After all, they'll lynch even a child for perceived slights. Why shouldn't Black people feel the same for centuries of documented, undeniable fuckery?

But instead of realizing race wars are stupid and untenable, and working towards a society where the possibility of revenge by one class being actively subjugated by another isn't really a scenario that defines the relationship in any notable way, white people just... fucking do nothing about it, because excessively carceral executive control keeps the asylum in order.

Yeah, I may be scared to death of Jerome, but hey, that's what having a state-sanctioned execution squad three numbers away is for!

holy shit

 

race wars for thee but not for me

[thetylerrob]

After all, they'll lynch even a child for perceived slights. Why shouldn't Black people feel the same for centuries of documented, undeniable fuckery?

Still barely masking her bloodlust for white babies after all these years.

[D3RANG3D]

[Potato]

oh my god

This is the thing that really opened my eyes to how insidious and far reaching it all really is. I was watch Kat Blaque talk about skin care for black women and how the lack of choices for women of color was an implicit statement that black skin wasn't beautiful and I chewed on that for a good while. How something so small and unnoticed can have such a profound effect on people. It's made me stop and think about *a lot* of the world around me.

Me of 8 years ago would probably see some of your posts Nep and think that you're being overly dramatic and emotional. That you're just being stupid but the wiser me, the one that see a Trans woman of color understands how much shit you and others like you have to deal with and *I get it*.

We may not always see eye to eye politically but I'm thankful for people like Kat and now FD whom I just found for helping peel back layers of life that I don't see or experience.

Those of you not sure about the length shake that feeling off. Not everything can be digested and talked about in five minutes and that's ok. The knowledge and introspection gained from this kind of stuff can change your life for the better.

I think TheHunter just played a get out of jail free card to criticise Neppy.

[Propagandhim]

Of course she wants a race war.  She has nothing to lose except 3 menial jobs and a penchant for being a lazy, woe-is-me, it's-everyone-else's-fault, sack of shit.  Lead the way:  LAaaaaAaand BaaaAaack!

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/splatoon-3-side-order-has-developed-quite-the-fanart-following.685132/#post-101023402

The depiction of the Octoling’s skin tone seems pretty inconsistent.

GET

A

FUCKING

JOB!

[benjipwns]

I think TheHunter just played a get out of jail free card to criticise Neppy.

I love that he called her a trans woman.

[cosmicblizzard]

Hasan said something I agree with in regards to HL

https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi/clip/DistinctMotionlessSashimiOMGScoots-TygQMH9W-YIZVISo?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

There doesn't seem to be another group that is anywhere NEAR as vocal about perceived slights as trans people.  It's not just about being a highly marginalized group, many of those exist and have arguably worse depictions in the media like Muslims as Hasan says like COD which furthers (and is funded by) the military industrial complex. 

I'm wondering if this is because there's an overrepresentation of trans people among the terminally online.  Anecdotal of course, but none of the trans people in my life act like this and one is even having a blast with Hogwarts Legacy.  There's a lot of people that have never knowingly met a trans person in their life, which unfortunately means their only exposure is the militant online ones that will vilify you for your media consumption. 

There's another Hasan clip where he talks about how the HL reaction is terrible for the trans movement and I agree with that too: https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi/clip/CrackyTacitBeeKappaRoss-llGPq2rCBYubKupq?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

[Taco Bell Tower]

I think TheHunter just played a get out of jail free card to criticise Neppy.

I love that he called her a trans woman.

What, didn't NepNep said they were a transman?

[HaughtyFrank]

Hasan said something I agree with in regards to HL

https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi/clip/DistinctMotionlessSashimiOMGScoots-TygQMH9W-YIZVISo?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

There doesn't seem to be another group that is anywhere NEAR as vocal about perceived slights as trans people.  It's not just about being a highly marginalized group, many of those exist and have arguably worse depictions in the media like Muslims as Hasan says like COD which furthers (and is funded by) the military industrial complex. 

I'm wondering if this is because there's an overrepresentation of trans people among the terminally online.  Anecdotal of course, but none of the trans people in my life act like this and one is even having a blast with Hogwarts Legacy.  There's a lot of people that have never knowingly met a trans person in their life, which unfortunately means their only exposure is the militant online ones that will vilify you for your media consumption. 

There's another Hasan clip where he talks about how the HL reaction is terrible for the trans movement and I agree with that too: https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi/clip/CrackyTacitBeeKappaRoss-llGPq2rCBYubKupq?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

This tracks pretty much with how it goes on Resetera. Not a coincidence that the only games they managed to push to a ban were the ones they considered transphobic. They're incredibly loud and tenacious and invoke shit like "genocide" over the mildest things. It's legit insane and yet receives so little pushback from people who should know better

[Propagandhim]

How the fuck is the admin promoting and justifying race war and nobody pushes back or says anything. And then you ban people for months for saying, "Hey, they put a trans person in this game. Cool!"   What a ridiculous forum full of ridiculous people.    


Well, promoting is a stretch.  But hinting at the revenge fantasy being part of what "defines the relationship", when it's really only her and her fellow extremists sitting up at night, staring at the ceiling, fantasizing about this stuff. 










Really disappointed that a trans woman would even think to stoop this low. 

[HaughtyFrank]

I think TheHunter just played a get out of jail free card to criticise Neppy.

I love that he called her a trans woman.

Honestly more people should do that with people like her and Zeo. Lets really highlight the awkwardness of how they just want to catch some extra minority points.

[Taco Bell Tower]

How the fuck is the admin promoting and justifying race war and nobody pushes back or says anything. And then you ban people for months for saying, "Hey, they put a trans person in this game. Cool!"   What a ridiculous forum full of ridiculous people.    


Well, promoting is a stretch.  But hinting at the revenge fantasy being part of what "defines the relationship", when it's really only her and her fellow extremists sitting up at night, staring at the ceiling, fantasizing about this stuff. 










Really disappointed that a trans woman would even think to stoop this low.

Someone once spoke up about it and got banned

https://www.resetera.com/threads/french-rapper-investigated-for-call-to-hang-white-people.71646/page-6#post-13234079

NepNep

All white people are racist.

That was very easy for me to say.

Yea but you think songs about killing white babies are justified so who the hell is going to listen to a your view on the matter when you're a racist yourself?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-all-white-people-racist.184470/page-20#post-31387566

[Averon]

Don't know why B-Dumbs still allow Nep to be an Admin. She's a liability at this point.

[Greatness Gone]

Don't know why B-Dumbs still allow Nep to be an Admin. She's a liability at this point.

what's funny is that nobody would even care if she were demodded.

see: nobody giving a fuck morrigan "quit"

[Averon]

Hasan said something I agree with in regards to HL

https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi/clip/DistinctMotionlessSashimiOMGScoots-TygQMH9W-YIZVISo?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

There doesn't seem to be another group that is anywhere NEAR as vocal about perceived slights as trans people.  It's not just about being a highly marginalized group, many of those exist and have arguably worse depictions in the media like Muslims as Hasan says like COD which furthers (and is funded by) the military industrial complex. 

I'm wondering if this is because there's an overrepresentation of trans people among the terminally online.  Anecdotal of course, but none of the trans people in my life act like this and one is even having a blast with Hogwarts Legacy.  There's a lot of people that have never knowingly met a trans person in their life, which unfortunately means their only exposure is the militant online ones that will vilify you for your media consumption. 

There's another Hasan clip where he talks about how the HL reaction is terrible for the trans movement and I agree with that too: https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi/clip/CrackyTacitBeeKappaRoss-llGPq2rCBYubKupq?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

A lot of people's first experience with the trans community will be through all the BS online surrounding HL. And their first impression will be of a loud, obnoxious, and hyperbolic group of people they're rather quickly forget exists. No doubt this is terrible for trans rights, especially outside of the terminally online. First impressions and all that.

[Averon]

They are still upset about the Scotland rapist. From the TERF Bitch Joanne hate thread:

"Instead, as a woman they will be sent to the place hosting a lot of people guilty of violence against women".

It's depressing how unnecessarily cruel the debacle with Bryson has been.

Our battleground is a rapist... like it just sucks.

Maybe making your battleground a rapist is the problem? Pick your battles, idiots.

[HaughtyFrank]

"Instead, as a woman they will be sent to the place hosting a lot of people guilty of violence against women".

Almost close to a realization.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Don't know why B-Dumbs still allow Nep to be an Admin. She's a liability at this point.

He's in a tough position.  If he demods BTC will yell racist and since NepNep is trans the trans users will call him a TERF Joanne supporter.

[Propagandhim]

It's better to leave her as an admin - you want to keep tabs on someone that unstable to make sure they don't hurt anyone.

[maninthemirror]

Don't know why B-Dumbs still allow Nep to be an Admin. She's a liability at this point.

the more time nep in power the more isolated era becomes, the faster the forum dies the sooner this thread at bore dies and we are more productive

[benjipwns]

Maybe making your battleground a rapist is the problem? Pick your battles, idiots.

They can't though. You're not allowed to deny anyone's identity for any reason so "yeah, but he really wants to be incarcerated with women" is supposed to be like this drop-the-mic counterargument. Otherwise they have to admit that maybe there's reasons other than being an alt-right troll or detrans that you're allowed to deny someone's identity. And that starts opening the door up to too many possibilities for people to start denying theirs. If a male can be denied being in a woman's prison just because he's a male, then what's to say you can't deny males from access to women's bathrooms? Or women's rape centers? Or women's only sports teams? And if you say "but he's a rapist" then you're saying that it's possible to invalidate your identity with your actions and that's even worse because that's a standard cis people aren't held to, that opens the door up to crimes like people referring to Ezra Miller as a he just because he's being accused of starring in Zack Snyder directed and related films. This is a slippery slope to genocide, because rejecting someone's identity is the first step of putting them in front of a firing squad which is why Joanne spends every one of her waking moments doing it and most likely even her dreams are filled with thoughts of it so it can further her relentless blood lust for marginalized bodies of all kinds to stack up all over the Commonwealth and from there the world.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-microsoft-activision-blizzard-acquisition-ot-antitrust-simulator-up-cma-gives-provisional-findings-possible-remedies-to-acquisition.633344/page-490#post-101016028

This thread is moving so fast, but has this already been confirmed?? Recall that activition CEO stated they haven’t heard anything from Sony, but seems now Sony won’t talk to wither MS and ABK and going all hostile now.

Fuck Kotick, I wouldn't want to talk to that scum either.

Regardless; whatever Sony has been doing; has been working. If your competition is desperate to talk to you then you are obviously doing something right.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/louisiana-mom-arrested-for-attaching-recording-device-to-daughter’s-wheelchair-over-mistreatment-concerns-sues-school-district.685021/

https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/louisiana-mom-arrested-for-attaching-recording-device-to-daughters-wheelchair-over-mistreatment-concerns-sues-school-district/

Special needs kids are so venerable in the school system

[BrokenVerses]

Wasn't at one point, maybe a decade ago, r/gamingcirclejerk supposed to be somewhat mocking gaming subs instead of a deranged Resetera-esque ragefest over a Harry Potter game?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/india-urges-citizens-to-%E2%80%98hug-a-cow%E2%80%99-on-valentine%E2%80%99s-day.685168/#post-101028628

My dad does this every Valentine’s Day.

                        Misogynistic rhetoric
 ]


https://www.resetera.com/threads/india-urges-citizens-to-%E2%80%98hug-a-cow%E2%80%99-on-valentine%E2%80%99s-day.685168/#post-101029189

This is going to get people killed.

 

[Potato]

"Instead, as a woman they will be sent to the place hosting a lot of people guilty of violence against women".

Almost close to a realization.

This level of cognitive dissonance can't be real, right?

This person is either distinguished mentally-challenged or a troll.

[Potato]

Don't know why B-Dumbs still allow Nep to be an Admin. She's a liability at this point.

He's in a tough position.  If he demods BTC will yell racist and since NepNep is trans the trans users will call him a TERF Joanne supporter.

Entirely a situation of his own making.

[benjipwns]

I hope this discourse never ends, shame ResetERA.com opted out of allowing it:
https://twitter.com/Grey_IsTrue/status/1623703340482809860
https://twitter.com/Grey_IsTrue/status/1623756062921826308
https://twitter.com/MeloDotty/status/1623333743682256897

https://twitter.com/ashatteredyouth/status/1623502207336296449

[close]

[DJ Bedroom]

8 hours in and I still haven't genocided a single trans individual. What the fuck

[HaughtyFrank]

Wasn't at one point, maybe a decade ago, r/gamingcirclejerk supposed to be somewhat mocking gaming subs instead of a deranged Resetera-esque ragefest over a Harry Potter game?

Seems to be the staging ground of the whole "let's spoil the game". Genuine lunatics.

Similar to those tweets above, how can you not see how this game is entirely irrelevant if you're really getting genocided. Like how is this your number one concern then? Such a load of crap

[Polident Hive]

Can I watch this new three hour video about YouTuber infighting without watching the four hour Joanne video or the black boyhood will smith one? Do I need to stay for the post credits scene?

[BIONIC]

8 hours in and I still haven't genocided a single trans individual. What the fuck

Trans genocide was a collector’s edition exclusive.

[Tuckers Law]

8 hours in and I still haven't genocided a single trans individual. What the fuck

When I went to pick up my copy of the game, there were three trans corpses left on my front doorstep the following morning.  Maybe yours are delayed in post?

[benjipwns]

The old Saints Row team would have put the genocide in the first few missions as a way to show you it's only going to get crazier from there. No idea what developers are doing these days.

[Potato]

8 hours in and I still haven't genocided a single trans individual. What the fuck

Do better

[benjipwns]

Kotaku's Managing Editor wants you to know you're a piece of shit for playing a video game:
https://twitter.com/carolynmichelle/status/1623481586330075136

[HaughtyFrank]

The pure audacity to say this about people playing a videogame

 

[DJ Bedroom]

For real though, we should all just normalize using 'genocide' casually. Like when you clean out the fridge loudly proclaim "I genocided the FUCK outta that old milk" or after taking a gnarly shit "that turd got straight genocided, son."

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I should probably preemptively fill out some change of address forms though, cuz my fiance ain't gonna put up with that dumb bullshit

[close]

[DJ Bedroom]

dp

[Crumb]

They should tag and shame folkx who play that trash Hogwarts game, like with a armband or something.

[benjipwns]

For real though, we should all just normalize using 'genocide' casually. Like when you clean out the fridge loudly proclaim "I genocided the FUCK outta that old milk" or after taking a gnarly shit "that turd got straight genocided, son."

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I should probably preemptively fill out some change of address forms though, cuz my fiance ain't gonna put up with that dumb bullshit

[close]

[FUME5]

I feel the need to point out that I have not and will not be playing the wizard game.

[benjipwns]

I feel the need to point out that I have not and will not be playing the wizard game.

Maybe try and be an actual ally for a change and watch five or six multi-hour YouTube videos on why the wizard game and the wizard BITCH are evil.

[ShutUp]

Was playing earlier and roaming Hogsmeade. Didnt see any shops selling stuff to target only trans folks. Seems Avalanche didn’t get the memo this was a trans genocide simulator.

[benjipwns]

I thought The Bire would be a safe space where nobody would admit to playing that, now you're all coming out of the woodwork to pledge undying loyalty to Joanne.

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

Hey everyone,

I wanted to address the recent Harry Potter video that I posted on the channel. I've seen the feedback and first of all I'm very sorry for any hurt I've caused any and all of you. I make videos to try and give you a little entertainment and in no way want to be putting out something that causes pain or harm in any way.

Aside from apologizing for any hurt I've caused you I wanted to explain a little bit from my side why I posted the video in the first place. Just to explain how I feel a lot of us were on different pages.

I'm not sure how this whole thing was covered in other countries but as someone who does not use social media this boycott was pretty much invisible. I'm surprised that I've not heard any discussion within my recent streams or on my comment section given the scale of it but as an "offline" person who does not use social media it just wasn't a visible campaign.

I had heard in the past about Rowling making hateful comments on Twitter but aside from everyone being in mutual agreement that she seemed like a shitty person that's as far as my knowledge on this whole situation goes. I had also heard of there being a boycott of some kind on the game but honestly assumed this was not a big thing, every other day I hear of someone/something being a problem and I just don't engage with that news.

When it comes to boycotts in a general sense I would disagree that buying something is endorsing the view of everyone involved. I also had heard early in development that Rowling (much like the recent special) was not involved in this whatsoever so I didn't see the issue at all on a surface level.

I also wanted to address the comment section. First of all, to clarify I fully support you giving any feedback and opinions regarding all this.

Second of all, there are a lot of different "bubbles" in my community. There was a lot of people commenting coming from a similar place as me and I'd guess a lot have likely never even heard about this whole situation. My audience has a lot of people who are very casual internet users.

Lastly, this video brought in a lot of people from outside my audience and there is hate that comes with that. Whenever a video reaches an outside audience it brings more hate than I'd normally recieve. It could be as simple as they hate my humour, or they hate my voice but that's just how it is when your video is pushed to people that it normally is not pushed to. Unfortunately this hate was amplified by the situation, especially given people will click just because of the controversy around the game and I will be disabling comments to just shut that hate down. I've already seen people saying that a lot of comments were being made by bots or trolls with the same copy pastes. To be 100% clear, I do not support anyone attacking you for who you are as a person and I'd wager neither does 99% of this community who from my experience have been the most kind and supportive group of people.

From everything I've read after posting, I get why someone wouldn't want to give her financial support. I also get why someone would buy the game and not feel that it is supporting or endorsing Rowling directly and I can also see how people can be unaware of the situation entirely never even hearing the words Harry Potter and Boycott side by side.

Needless to say I won't be posting any more of the game, I don't want to be putting more hate and hurt out into the world when god knows there's enough of that already. I got nothing but love for all of you and just want to provide some mildly entertaining videos and a nice community for everyone to have a good time and escape for while. I'm sorry for any hurt I've caused you, I have felt terrible knowing I've hurt a group that have been nothing but nice to me.

Kevin

So much content from the stupidest thing ever.

Capcori
13 hr. ago

Hey Kevin, as someone who's watched your content since the Machinima days, I genuinely appreciate this post and what you're saying here. I don't blame you for not being super knowledgeable about it since even if you go on Twitter a lot, many people in bad faith have tried to simmer it down to "JKR made some mean tweets." There's a lot more to it.

Joanne has put many millions of dollars towards militarily anti-trans organizations in the UK passing transphobic legislation, which has done more harm to trans/nonbinary people than I can put in a single post. With her influence being touted by UK/US far-right politicians, she is a big inspiration for arguably the biggest push of anti-trans bills ever.

Joanne has also stated that she actively uses her Harry Potter earnings for this cause, and not only that, considers every dollar sent her way as vindication of her work. She said that she considers every sale she now makes as someone agreeing with her on her views.

Therefore, the game is effectively used as a shelter for transphobes/TERFs/horrible people. Trans people are not harassing creators, but rather expressing worry and disappointment when it happens. Just look at those video comments: It became free reign of slurs, hate speech, and harassment of a very vulnerable minority.

Again, thanks for this post. It makes me feel better knowing the intent behind how it happened wasn't malicious, and turning off that comment section is a huge thing that may save someone from needing to call an emergency hotline.

friendofredjenny
13 hr. ago
Could you provide any proof of when/where she said this, or point me toward it? Haven't seen it, I'd appreciate it.

kimjongk80
13 hr. ago
If you have twitter go scroll through her posts. I don’t have it so I can’t link for you but if you just look up Rowlings tweets on the subject it’ll be there plus a whole lot more.

fleshcircuits
12 hr. ago
https://hashtagruthless.com/resource-guide

Here you go.

friendofredjenny
12 hr. ago
Didn't see these statements in that source.

fleshcircuits
12 hr. ago
There’s a screenshot from her Twitter saying as much in there and, tbh, there is plenty more proof and context within that source for you to see.

friendofredjenny
11 hr. ago
I mean, I've looked through that link and the links within it. Nowhere is it shown that she has actually stated that she considers "every dollar sent her way as vindication of her work", or that "she considers every sale she now makes as someone agreeing with her on her views", or anything close to meaning the same thing.

This is the problem I take with the boycotters, the exaggerated and sometimes just outright false claims.

NullZephyr
3 hr. ago
You should seek to educate yourself rather than expect others to educate you.

Small-Cactus
11 hr. ago

I'm not gonna lie, I'm still quite hurt, but it's mostly because now I can see just how many people in this community don't give a damn about trans people.

As a trans fan, I really appreciate this statement. I don't doubt that you had no ill intentions, you've always been supportive in the past. I especially felt supported by Grognak's explicit androgeny, so I had my doubts that you were being malicious in any way. I feel that while buying the game doesn't mean you endorse Rowling's actions, it does mean that you aren't staunchly opposed. Transphobes will take neutrality as a sign of support, and it will only enable them to make trans lives harder.

Maybe a video game might not seem like much to cis people, but to me, it's a show of support to not buy it. Even if boycotting won't change much, even if Rowling had little part in making it, it still shows that you care about the lives and feelings of trans people enough that you would forego your own enjoyment of a game.

While an apology on reddit is nice I'd also like to say that a statement on YouTube and Twitter would likely be more beneficial, as only a small portion of your subscribers are active on reddit. There are likely people who haven't seen this message that are still hurting.

gmarvin
6 hr. ago
While I agree that harassment is unwarranted, let's not act like "it's someone's childhood" isn't the flimsiest excuse in the world. If anything, people who love the IP and world the most should be the most enraged that the author is taking something precious and dear to them and using it to spread hate, destroy lives, and take away human rights.

I loved Harry Potter growing up, and it was my fiancée's favorite series in the whole world. It was something we bonded over a lot: how we both considered ourselves "Puffleclaws", how both of our favorite characters were Luna and Hermione, etc... The series had always been a source of comfort for both of us growing up, but especially for her.

My fiancée passed away, before Rowling's bigoted rhetoric and actions escalated. Her friends referenced Harry Potter in her eulogy, and I even had Snape's quote "Always" engraved on her urn. So as the years went on and JK started to use her platform and the HP series as vehicles for spreading hate and violence, it was like a dagger to the heart. How dare she poison something so dear to Amanda, to me, and to all the other LGBT people who found hope in a story about escaping the literal closet and being whisked away to a magical world.

The very fact that we all treasured the series is why it hurts so much when the creator betrays that love and uses it for hate, and why it's so important to not give her another cent of profit from this series. Sometimes we just have to let things go.

[BIONIC]

My emotional labor is not free, benji

[benjipwns]

I need to stop, there's literally too much content:

[Taco Bell Tower]

Hey everyone,

I wanted to address the recent Harry Potter video that I posted on the channel. I've seen the feedback and first of all I'm very sorry for any hurt I've caused any and all of you. I make videos to try and give you a little entertainment and in no way want to be putting out something that causes pain or harm in any way.

Aside from apologizing for any hurt I've caused you I wanted to explain a little bit from my side why I posted the video in the first place. Just to explain how I feel a lot of us were on different pages.

I'm not sure how this whole thing was covered in other countries but as someone who does not use social media this boycott was pretty much invisible. I'm surprised that I've not heard any discussion within my recent streams or on my comment section given the scale of it but as an "offline" person who does not use social media it just wasn't a visible campaign.

I had heard in the past about Rowling making hateful comments on Twitter but aside from everyone being in mutual agreement that she seemed like a shitty person that's as far as my knowledge on this whole situation goes. I had also heard of there being a boycott of some kind on the game but honestly assumed this was not a big thing, every other day I hear of someone/something being a problem and I just don't engage with that news.

When it comes to boycotts in a general sense I would disagree that buying something is endorsing the view of everyone involved. I also had heard early in development that Rowling (much like the recent special) was not involved in this whatsoever so I didn't see the issue at all on a surface level.

I also wanted to address the comment section. First of all, to clarify I fully support you giving any feedback and opinions regarding all this.

Second of all, there are a lot of different "bubbles" in my community. There was a lot of people commenting coming from a similar place as me and I'd guess a lot have likely never even heard about this whole situation. My audience has a lot of people who are very casual internet users.

Lastly, this video brought in a lot of people from outside my audience and there is hate that comes with that. Whenever a video reaches an outside audience it brings more hate than I'd normally recieve. It could be as simple as they hate my humour, or they hate my voice but that's just how it is when your video is pushed to people that it normally is not pushed to. Unfortunately this hate was amplified by the situation, especially given people will click just because of the controversy around the game and I will be disabling comments to just shut that hate down. I've already seen people saying that a lot of comments were being made by bots or trolls with the same copy pastes. To be 100% clear, I do not support anyone attacking you for who you are as a person and I'd wager neither does 99% of this community who from my experience have been the most kind and supportive group of people.

From everything I've read after posting, I get why someone wouldn't want to give her financial support. I also get why someone would buy the game and not feel that it is supporting or endorsing Rowling directly and I can also see how people can be unaware of the situation entirely never even hearing the words Harry Potter and Boycott side by side.

Needless to say I won't be posting any more of the game, I don't want to be putting more hate and hurt out into the world when god knows there's enough of that already. I got nothing but love for all of you and just want to provide some mildly entertaining videos and a nice community for everyone to have a good time and escape for while. I'm sorry for any hurt I've caused you, I have felt terrible knowing I've hurt a group that have been nothing but nice to me.

Kevin

So much content from the stupidest thing ever.

Capcori
13 hr. ago

Hey Kevin, as someone who's watched your content since the Machinima days, I genuinely appreciate this post and what you're saying here. I don't blame you for not being super knowledgeable about it since even if you go on Twitter a lot, many people in bad faith have tried to simmer it down to "JKR made some mean tweets." There's a lot more to it.

Joanne has put many millions of dollars towards militarily anti-trans organizations in the UK passing transphobic legislation, which has done more harm to trans/nonbinary people than I can put in a single post. With her influence being touted by UK/US far-right politicians, she is a big inspiration for arguably the biggest push of anti-trans bills ever.

Joanne has also stated that she actively uses her Harry Potter earnings for this cause, and not only that, considers every dollar sent her way as vindication of her work. She said that she considers every sale she now makes as someone agreeing with her on her views.

Therefore, the game is effectively used as a shelter for transphobes/TERFs/horrible people. Trans people are not harassing creators, but rather expressing worry and disappointment when it happens. Just look at those video comments: It became free reign of slurs, hate speech, and harassment of a very vulnerable minority.

Again, thanks for this post. It makes me feel better knowing the intent behind how it happened wasn't malicious, and turning off that comment section is a huge thing that may save someone from needing to call an emergency hotline.

friendofredjenny
13 hr. ago
Could you provide any proof of when/where she said this, or point me toward it? Haven't seen it, I'd appreciate it.

kimjongk80
13 hr. ago
If you have twitter go scroll through her posts. I don’t have it so I can’t link for you but if you just look up Rowlings tweets on the subject it’ll be there plus a whole lot more.

fleshcircuits
12 hr. ago
https://hashtagruthless.com/resource-guide

Here you go.

friendofredjenny
12 hr. ago
Didn't see these statements in that source.

fleshcircuits
12 hr. ago
There’s a screenshot from her Twitter saying as much in there and, tbh, there is plenty more proof and context within that source for you to see.

friendofredjenny
11 hr. ago
I mean, I've looked through that link and the links within it. Nowhere is it shown that she has actually stated that she considers "every dollar sent her way as vindication of her work", or that "she considers every sale she now makes as someone agreeing with her on her views", or anything close to meaning the same thing.

This is the problem I take with the boycotters, the exaggerated and sometimes just outright false claims.

NullZephyr
3 hr. ago
You should seek to educate yourself rather than expect others to educate you.

Small-Cactus
11 hr. ago

I'm not gonna lie, I'm still quite hurt, but it's mostly because now I can see just how many people in this community don't give a damn about trans people.

As a trans fan, I really appreciate this statement. I don't doubt that you had no ill intentions, you've always been supportive in the past. I especially felt supported by Grognak's explicit androgeny, so I had my doubts that you were being malicious in any way. I feel that while buying the game doesn't mean you endorse Rowling's actions, it does mean that you aren't staunchly opposed. Transphobes will take neutrality as a sign of support, and it will only enable them to make trans lives harder.

Maybe a video game might not seem like much to cis people, but to me, it's a show of support to not buy it. Even if boycotting won't change much, even if Rowling had little part in making it, it still shows that you care about the lives and feelings of trans people enough that you would forego your own enjoyment of a game.

While an apology on reddit is nice I'd also like to say that a statement on YouTube and Twitter would likely be more beneficial, as only a small portion of your subscribers are active on reddit. There are likely people who haven't seen this message that are still hurting.

gmarvin
6 hr. ago
While I agree that harassment is unwarranted, let's not act like "it's someone's childhood" isn't the flimsiest excuse in the world. If anything, people who love the IP and world the most should be the most enraged that the author is taking something precious and dear to them and using it to spread hate, destroy lives, and take away human rights.

I loved Harry Potter growing up, and it was my fiancée's favorite series in the whole world. It was something we bonded over a lot: how we both considered ourselves "Puffleclaws", how both of our favorite characters were Luna and Hermione, etc... The series had always been a source of comfort for both of us growing up, but especially for her.

My fiancée passed away, before Rowling's bigoted rhetoric and actions escalated. Her friends referenced Harry Potter in her eulogy, and I even had Snape's quote "Always" engraved on her urn. So as the years went on and JK started to use her platform and the HP series as vehicles for spreading hate and violence, it was like a dagger to the heart. How dare she poison something so dear to Amanda, to me, and to all the other LGBT people who found hope in a story about escaping the literal closet and being whisked away to a magical world.

The very fact that we all treasured the series is why it hurts so much when the creator betrays that love and uses it for hate, and why it's so important to not give her another cent of profit from this series. Sometimes we just have to let things go.

You should seek to educate yourself rather than expect others to educate you.

I love the "you're too stupid if you can't see the proof we made up"

[HaughtyFrank]

It truly kills me how many are repeating that she spends her money on anti-trans causes and yet even the sites that are meant to collect every little transgression of her don't provide any proof of that. It's something that was simply repeated so often they take it as fact

[Potato]

Small-Cactus
11 hr. ago

I'm not gonna lie, I'm still quite hurt, but it's mostly because now I can see just how many people in this community don't give a damn about trans people.

I will let you stupid fucking idiots in on a little secret.

No one gives a fuck about trans people any more than any other type of people!!!

The fact that you cunts keep insisting that must I care about you more than I would anyone else, especially when you are all so fucking irritating and just flat out lie and make shit up like Joanne's (TERF bitch) crimes against humanity and the whole genocide thing, means that I actively care about you and your "community" less.

No one likes an attention-seeking twat and when your most vocal and visible examples continue to shit up every corner of the, previously bearable, internet with your absolute bullshit, you will continue to actively push away neutral people who might have otherwise had some sympathy for your experience.

Get fucked the lot of you.

[benjipwns]

It truly kills me how many are repeating that she spends her money on anti-trans causes and yet even the sites that are meant to collect every little transgression of her don't provide any proof of that. It's something that was simply repeated so often they take it as fact

Look, sometimes you know something is true but you can't find any proof for it, you still have to warn people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_C/K_(third_generation)#Sidesaddle_fuel_tank_controversy


Doesn't mean you should retract the story since you know it's still true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy#Mapes's_and_Rather's_view_of_the_documents


Lack of evidence isn't reason to let guilty people go free to kill or crime again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States

[DJ Bedroom]

Small-Cactus
11 hr. ago

I'm not gonna lie, I'm still quite hurt, but it's mostly because now I can see just how many people in this community don't give a damn about trans people.

I will let you stupid fucking idiots in on a little secret.

No one gives a fuck about trans people any more than any other type of people!!!

The fact that you cunts keep insisting that must I care about you more than I would anyone else, especially when you are all so fucking irritating and just flat out lie and make shit up like Joanne's (TERF bitch) crimes against humanity and the whole genocide thing, means that I actively care about you and your "community" less.

No one likes an attention-seeking twat and when your most vocal and visible examples continue to shit up every corner of the, previously bearable, internet with your absolute bullshit, you will continue to actively push away neutral people who might have otherwise had some sympathy for your experience.

Get fucked the lot of you.

aw hecc freno, I think you just did a big ol genocide

[maninthemirror]

friendofredjenny
13 hr. ago
Could you provide any proof of when/where she said this, or point me toward it? Haven't seen it, I'd appreciate it.

kimjongk80
13 hr. ago
If you have twitter go scroll through her posts. I don’t have it so I can’t link for you but if you just look up Rowlings tweets on the subject it’ll be there plus a whole lot more.

fleshcircuits
12 hr. ago
https://hashtagruthless.com/resource-guide

Here you go.

friendofredjenny
12 hr. ago
Didn't see these statements in that source.

fleshcircuits
12 hr. ago
There’s a screenshot from her Twitter saying as much in there and, tbh, there is plenty more proof and context within that source for you to see.

friendofredjenny
11 hr. ago
I mean, I've looked through that link and the links within it. Nowhere is it shown that she has actually stated that she considers "every dollar sent her way as vindication of her work", or that "she considers every sale she now makes as someone agreeing with her on her views", or anything close to meaning the same thing.

This is the problem I take with the boycotters, the exaggerated and sometimes just outright false claims.

NullZephyr
3 hr. ago
You should seek to educate yourself rather than expect others to educate you.

2 days ago.. I prophecized this
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=3087520;topic=48241.40140;last_msg=3088096

JK Rowling: Biological women are the only real women

Trans: JK Rowling is committing Trans genocide and is helping murder Trans people

Normies: How? what did she say

Trans: She said horrible things, terrible things, she is the worst person on the planet, maybe even in history

Normies: What did she exactly say? and how is she the worst than hitler, pol pot, stalin?

Trans: She said a lot of things

Normies: What things!?

Trans: Look, we are triggered by the things she has said. She is the worst person on the planet

Normies: Tell me what she said that has enabled genocide and murder

Trans: Are you our ally or not!?

Normies: I can't be shit until you tell me what she said

Trans: You are a bigot

[clothedmacuser]

Lack of evidence isn't reason to let guilty people go free to kill or crime again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States

If we ended capitalism this wouldn't happen.

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[Potato]

Small-Cactus
11 hr. ago

I'm not gonna lie, I'm still quite hurt, but it's mostly because now I can see just how many people in this community don't give a damn about trans people.

I will let you stupid fucking idiots in on a little secret.

No one gives a fuck about trans people any more than any other type of people!!!

The fact that you cunts keep insisting that must I care about you more than I would anyone else, especially when you are all so fucking irritating and just flat out lie and make shit up like Joanne's (TERF bitch) crimes against humanity and the whole genocide thing, means that I actively care about you and your "community" less.

No one likes an attention-seeking twat and when your most vocal and visible examples continue to shit up every corner of the, previously bearable, internet with your absolute bullshit, you will continue to actively push away neutral people who might have otherwise had some sympathy for your experience.

Get fucked the lot of you.

aw hecc freno, I think you just did a big ol genocide

Please pile the bodies up on my doorstep.

[nobody of note]

In today's consistent moderation, the post with the Chuck Tingle Hogwarts Legacy-related tweets has been left up, but they have banned two other posters for mentioning the game.

Banned for mentioning other people talking about the game:

User Banned (1 Month): Discussing Banned Game

All a bunch of my coworkers are talking about is this stupid game and how they’re waiting to play it after work and I’m juswt sitting here like “nah, I’m good not supporting that woman and her nonsense.”

Banned for one line in a longer post noting they haven't seen ads for the game:

User Banned (1 Month): Disregarding final warning regarding the discussion of a banned title

I'm surprised but YouTube hasn't recommended me a single video about this game...positive or negative.

On the other hand I got a video recommendation that was...wow. I didn't watch it and I don't recall the user, but the image chosen was Mallow from Pokemon strapped to a chair surrounded by the GG-chan looking girl crying and the video was entitled "Japanese Culture And Its Place In Modern Media" along those lines. I'm gonna guess it was one of those weird cognitive dissonance where they cried about western SJW politics influencing Japanese media while also defending skimpy clothing on underage game characters.

Elon (or someone st Twitter) actually seems to have cleaned up folks on Twitter who actively advertised themselves as loli but my God the most virtrolic anti-trans posts I've seen tended to be from dudes named LOLIMECCA and shit. Needless to say many of them were upset and surprised Elon banned loli as a hastag since unsurprisingly they share most of his beliefs. I'm being generous to Elon here and saying not all of his beliefs.

Best I can guess they're splitting the baby because the thread is just latching onto deifying Tingle so they can kind of ignore that the tweets are directly about the superbanned controversy.

Now that's one buckaroo I would let guard my back anytime, love Mr. Tingle and his take no shit approach to social Justice and equality.