Streaming Service Apocalypse

[Tasty]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/netflix-animation-erased-executives-fired-220251819.html

https://www.thegamer.com/netflix-animation-boss-baby-layoffs-report/

The animation industry...

Netflix...

first I read this and thought damn that really sucks

then I clicked through and realized this means they CANCELED BONE



Bone is amazing and deserves so much better than the treatments it's gotten over the years, like telltale's shitty first attempt at an adventure game before they canceled it and then later died

fuckin hell

https://twitter.com/jeffsmithsbone/status/1517640535233769472

[Tasty]

Netflix [originally told] creators, “We want to be the home of everybody’s favorite show.” By the time the producer left several years later, there was a “new thesis statement”: “We want to make what our audience wants to see,” Reed Hastings, Netflix’s Co-CEO, now told animation talent. As far as mission statements go, those are vastly different.

...

Netflix currently touts “Boss Baby” as the ideal of what an animated series on the platform should be and what kind of numbers those animated series should be bringing in (this was reiterated by almost everyone we spoke to) although Netflix doesn’t even own “Boss Baby” — it licenses the series from DreamWorks Animation. (A new “Boss Baby” series premieres next month.)

[VomKriege]

Is Netflix just not in a position to not raise their prices?  I don't understand how doing this, which has led to them losing a ton of subscribers, show cancellations, and firings, is good for them.

I mean... probably not ?
I don't really know if they have too, profitability wise, but I suspect they do on some level. You'd think in a space becoming so competitive and who will probably see a lot of dead services, they'd play every price advantage they have.

[Pissy F Benny]

I reckon Netflix could get back on track by actually making some decent stuff

Their scripted shit is roughly 99% medicore (at best)

[Joe Molotov]

Netflix: "So....you guys like Stranger Things right? We still got that."

[Cauliflower Of Love]

They need to buy up all the Cinemax afterhours stuff

NetflixXx

[Tasty]

Netflix: "So....you guys like Stranger Things right? We still got that."

More than 4 years since it was actually relevant tho

[james]

If I was the CEO of Netflix, I would have a promo where if you send in a screenshot of you canceling HBO, you get 3 months of Netflix for $20 (total)

[Tasty]

If I was the CEO of Netflix, I would send a PM to Tasty on thebore.com and tell him all his projects have been funded and greenlit.

[Uncle]

wait you're the CEO why are you PMing yourself 

from: Tasty
to: Tasty
bcc: Secret Tasty

thanks for greenlighting my projects friend, hope all is well for you when you receive this in the future 

[BIONIC]

If I was CEO of Netflix I would funnel company assets to hire a bot farm to like my bore dot com posts.

Might finally break that 5 like glass ceiling 

[Tasty]

wait you're the CEO why are you PMing yourself 

from: Tasty
to: Tasty
bcc: Secret Tasty

thanks for greenlighting my projects friend, hope all is well for you when you receive this in the future 

...I've had a few beers OK

[james]

Netflix should add porn movies.

Not porn, but actual movies. Like that big budget Pirates one. I've always wanted to watch it

[Tasty]

wait you're the CEO why are you PMing yourself 

from: Tasty
to: Tasty
bcc: Secret Tasty

thanks for greenlighting my projects friend, hope all is well for you when you receive this in the future 

...I've had a few beers OK

Wait how the fuck did you know about the Secret Tasty account

[Tasty]

Also thinking about it some more, I think originally I assumed it was a Possessor (2021) / Being John Malkovich (1999) situation where I temporarily inhabit the body of the person in question, not permanently assuming the CEO title.

[chronovore]

Also thinking about it some more, I think originally I assumed it was a Possessor (2021) / Being John Malkovich (1999) situation where I temporarily inhabit the body of the person in question, not permanently assuming the CEO title.

Possessor was fantastic. 

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/loudmouthjulia/status/1516794978105794560

Not including new HBO originals is kind of a handicap, but yeah, really puts Netflix's content blurge into perspective.

[Tasty]

Hollywood Reporter: HBO Max Debuts in Nielsen’s Monthly Platform Rankings

The streamer moves out of the "other" category for the first time, and streaming as a whole tops 30 percent of usage.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Like I said, I fully understand why they will produce new shows that they 100% own forever that can bulk out the catalogue permanently, but as a subscriber I would much rather they buy the temp rights to something old and watchable like a Diagnosis Murder or a Lovejoy for their 'daytime TV' filler than pay for something new and totally shit like Is It Cake or those fucking human zoo 'dating competitions'.

[Tasty]

Donald Trump’s Media Company Plans “Non-Woke Alternative” To Netflix And Disney+; Streaming Slate To Feature “Cancelled Shows”

This might do as well as the XFL.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

“blue collar comedy, cancelled shows, Trump-specific programming, faith-based shows, family entertainment, shows that embrace the Second Amendment, and news.”

So...disney +

[Pissy F Benny]

Finally someone to make a series out of Ben Shapiro's novel

[james]

“blue collar comedy, cancelled shows, Trump-specific programming, faith-based shows, family entertainment, shows that embrace the Second Amendment, and news.”

So...disney +

Rosanne all morning and Home Improvement all afternoon

[Nintex]

Trump has collected a fantastic cast of characters so this could actually work 

[Polident Hive]

Not for nothing, they’ve got Kevin Spacey, James Woods, and Jon Voigt on call. Also Gina Carano, Dean Cain, and the Hercules guy. Have to choose whether Joss Whedon or Bryan Singer directs. Maybe Polanski if they film in a country without extradition. Kid Rock will compose the score.

[james]

Finally an Expendables TV series, to air back to back with THE DEPLORABLES

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Finally an Expendables TV series, to air back to back with THE DEPLORABLES

I'm not proud of this like.

I wanted you to know this.

[Tasty]

Vulture: The Hottest Streamer (Right Now) - The top three spots get a shake-up in our annual power ranking.

Our expert panel voted HBO Max the hottest streamer in town, and it wasn’t even close: 12 of our 14 insiders ranked the platform either first or second out of eight contenders. “The service just feels more balanced and deeper than the others,” one top talent agent raves. Like last year, Disney+ came in a solid second, pushing former winner Netflix down to third (though four voters still ranked it No. 1).

...

After a rocky launch during the height of the pandemic, HBO Max has rallied to become the supernova of the streaming universe. Netflix remains far bigger overall, but its two-year-old rival is rapidly adding subscribers around the world and has pulled ahead in terms of industry respect and cultural resonance. The challenge for new boss David Zaslav, CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery: Don’t mess things up. Meanwhile, Netflix, already looking shaky a year ago, drops below Disney+ to third place.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://twitter.com/loudmouthjulia/status/1516794978105794560

Not including new HBO originals is kind of a handicap, but yeah, really puts Netflix's content blurge into perspective.

This shows that Netflix has way more content in all brackets, including the good ones

[Phoenix Dark]

House Of The Dragon is gonna crush the building, folks.

[Beezy]

Vulture: The Hottest Streamer (Right Now) - The top three spots get a shake-up in our annual power ranking.

Our expert panel voted HBO Max the hottest streamer in town, and it wasn’t even close: 12 of our 14 insiders ranked the platform either first or second out of eight contenders. “The service just feels more balanced and deeper than the others,” one top talent agent raves. Like last year, Disney+ came in a solid second, pushing former winner Netflix down to third (though four voters still ranked it No. 1).

...

After a rocky launch during the height of the pandemic, HBO Max has rallied to become the supernova of the streaming universe. Netflix remains far bigger overall, but its two-year-old rival is rapidly adding subscribers around the world and has pulled ahead in terms of industry respect and cultural resonance. The challenge for new boss David Zaslav, CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery: Don’t mess things up. Meanwhile, Netflix, already looking shaky a year ago, drops below Disney+ to third place.

Eh, Disney+ hasn't grabbed me at all yet. What's a must watch on there?

[Tasty]

[Tasty]

This shows that Netflix has way more content in all brackets, including the good ones

On reflection the graph is dumb and weird in a couple different ways and I offer a full retraction.

[Tasty]

The true streaming service apocalypse may actually be upon us.

The Wall Street Journal: Netflix’s Business Model Doesn’t Work

[Tasty]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/when-hbo-max-and-discovery-merge-theyll-have-a-new-name/

HBO Max -> "Max"

I like this for a lot of reasons, when I started thinking about what the new service could be called for the last few months "Max" was near the top of my picks.



Plus Max is established now as either the #2 or #3 streamer in people's minds, so it doesn't need to lean on the HBO branding as much anymore. Add to that this is being done to "protect HBO's brand," and yeah, that makes sense too. Plus it gets the service 100% away from the memories of the confusing HBO Go/Now/Max times.

[james]

Do we get a discount at TJMaxx

[Tasty]

Do we get a discount at TJMaxx

You'll need to ask Goofy.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The should add "The" to it.


It's more definitive.

"The Max"

[Tasty]

‘Westworld,’ ‘The Nevers’ to Be Pulled From HBO Max

“The Nevers” has been canceled halfway through its first season by HBO. The Joss Whedon-created sci-fi drama will be pulled from streaming on HBO Max, along with the recently canceled HBO series “Westworld,” Variety has confirmed.

THE SECOND HALF IS ENTIRELY IN THE CAN ALREADY ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

[Pissy F Benny]

Whedon

[Tasty]

Whedon

Fixed

[james]

Is that the guy who raped buffy?

[Tasty]

Is that the guy who raped buffy?

No that was either Angel (statutory), Spike (attempted) or BOOM Studios (to the canon).

[james]

never buying an annual plan again.

HBO Max leaving December 18:

Shows not owned by WB Discovery:

    The Garcias
    Gordita Chronicles (Sony Pictures Television)
    Love Life (Lionsgate)
    Made for Love (Paramount)
    Minx (Lionsgate)

Shows owned by WB Discovery:

    F-Boy Island
    Finding Magic Mike
    Head of the Class (LC page lists the original 1986-1991 series, but it's more likely they're removing the 2021 revival.)
    Legendary
    The Nevers (HBO)
    Raised by Wolves
    The Time Traveler’s Wife (HBO)
    Westworld (HBO)
 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I really enjoyed The Nevers

[Pissy F Benny]

why would they take their own shit off the service

I get not relicensing shit from a 3rd party that no one is watching, but their own stuff is free for them

[Joe Molotov]

So they don't have to pay actors' residuals or something probably.

[Pissy F Benny]

[Polident Hive]

So the only way to watch Raised by Wolves is to find a copy that fell off the back of a truck?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

So the only way to watch Raised by Wolves is to find a copy that fell off the back of a truck?

you can find it piled up with the rest of the trash

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

So the only way to watch Raised by Wolves is to find a copy that fell off the back of a truck?

I can buy it on DVD or BluRay at a bunch of retailers, or digitally via Apple, Youtube and Amazon 

[HaughtyFrank]

So the only way to watch Raised by Wolves is to find a copy that fell off the back of a truck?

The shows are going to end up on one of those free-with-ads streaming services

Warner Bros. Discovery has announced a plan to license some of its canceled and pulled programming to third party free ad-supported television (FAST) channels. Additionally, the company says it will announce plans for its own proprietary FAST channel in 2023.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/warner-bros-discovery-hbo-max-fast-1235461623/

[Polident Hive]

HBO Max increased the monthly price by $1. And despite leeching off another account, there’s a realization how little I use it outside of HBO programs every few months. Whatever HBO Max shows exist, more seem to be getting cancelled.

Speaking of cancelling shows, Netflix going through it

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1616180355828158464

[Tasty]

HBO still got the shit tho... everyone here is coming back for Curb's next season and it's laughable to pretend otherwise...

[Polident Hive]

That’s the difference between them, to me. HBO Max, I’m loading up to watch Succession. Not to browse around and find something fresh.

There’s value to both. But I’d say compare the hits among them. Money Heist from Spain. Squid Game from Korea. a chess show in Queens Gambit. Documentary about Tigers (I never watched it I don’t know). A serial killer show. An Adams Family show. Anime based on video games. Et al. On occasion an old ass movie will show up on the service and get popular. Somehow the show New Amsterdam is getting a second wind after ending by popping up in Netflix.

HBO, people show up for the big stuff, but don’t seem to treat it as an entertainment platform the same way.

[Tasty]

https://gizmodo.com/hbo-max-the-nevers-tubi-streaming-1850103472

WBD to fans of The Nevers (all nine of us):

[chronovore]

I’m a YouTube Premium subscriber.

It has signed me out of AppleTV, 2 days in a row. It’s pretty inconvenient to login from that device.

It doesn’t sign me out from portable devices. Just AppleTV, where I use it most frequently.

Are they using my location to determine if I should be remotely logged out?

[team filler]

trying out a switch to youtube tv from hulu, hbomax and a few subscriptions on prime video. thought it would be nice to have it all in one place and be able to share it with family. the sharing part was easy, but there is a dip in video quality I'm not sure I'm ok with tbh 

[zomgee]

I dropped everything except YouTube premium. I had Netflix, Disney, Hulu, Spotify, and was starting HBO Max. Content currently sucks, services got smaller while raising prices, and I just get everything and put it in Plex. It just got tiring.

[Polident Hive]

HBO Max app stops working. Tells you to download the Max app. It’s the same app! Already went though this with HBO Go. The rebrand is going great.

The showcase content for the change are some hard hitters. A video version of a podcast. A YouTuber explaining his viral videos. Shazam 2.

Secondly, my trial for Apple TV is up in a week. Planned to continue my sub but see it got a $2 price hike. Guess I’ll let it lapse and sub when Killers of the Flower Moon drops.