Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.

[Mupepe]

I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

[cloudwalking]

tell me about your problems mupepe

[Bacon]

I'd like to try it sometime. I wonder how fucked up I really am.

[Mupepe]

tell me about your problems mupepe

If you're on AIM, I'll get on and tell you about them  

Bacon: It wasn't insightful at all.  She basically told me shit I already knew and then insulted me.  Bitch.

[CajoleJuice]

I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Yea, pretty much. You probably have to go for years before getting any help or answers out of it.

Kinda like Lost.

Edit: And Mupepe is on his way to his goal of talking to every chick on this forum on AIM. 

[cloudwalking]

tell me about your problems mupepe

If you're on AIM, I'll get on and tell you about them 

that'll be $200

[The Black Stallion]

I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Friends are a lot cheaper and if you don't like em you can always do like me and pretend to take em on a trip, then ditch them half way (like 60 miles from their home and in the middle of nowhere) and speed off.

[Tauntaun]

I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 

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[Cheebs]

I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 

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which one of you is the black one

[Mupepe]

I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Yea, pretty much. You probably have to go for years before getting any help or answers out of it.

Kinda like Lost.

oh shi'!  Sick burn!

tell me about your problems mupepe

If you're on AIM, I'll get on and tell you about them 

that'll be $200

[Tauntaun]

I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 

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which one of you is the black one

We like to roll play.   

[Mupepe]

I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 

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which one of you is the black one

We like to roll play.   

I want to be the black one!

[TVC15]

There are good therapists.

[Tauntaun]

I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 

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which one of you is the black one

We like to roll play.   

I want to be the black one!

K, that means you get to put the big cucumber down your pants. 

[Mupepe]

There are good therapists.

Possibly.  But how can you differentiate?

[TVC15]

There are good therapists.

Possibly.  But how can you differentiate?

Well, knowing what to look for helps, but I realize not everyone can tell what they need.  Were you seeing a psychiatrist or a psychologist?

I had a string of bad psychologists, but I retained the same psychiatrist for a number of years.  After going through a few psychologists, and getting to know me and my specific issues and quirks, he was able to point me to someone that fit my needs.  Some people just need a person they can vent to for an hour a week, other people need something more.  The mental health field has grown exponentially over the past 2 decades, and I believe a lot of the people pouring into the field are more along the lines of "Vent to me" than "Let me help you."

[Mupepe]

There are good therapists.

Possibly.  But how can you differentiate?

Well, knowing what to look for helps, but I realize not everyone can tell what they need.  Were you seeing a psychiatrist or a psychologist?

Psychiatrist

[VALIS]

Depends on the problem, too. Something like anxiety/panic attacks, you could see concrete results from a therapist in a month or two. But something more nebulous like depression... that's tough.

[APF]

I keep waffling between wanting to see a therapist and thinking it would be a waste of time.  While I think there could be some benefit to having recurrent vent sessions, I always found that to be somewhat one-sided and self-indulgent.  At the same time, if you are honestly trying to work out a specific problem (f/e I have issues with fear-of-rejection that manifests itself in bizarre work/daily-life related ways) and your therapist is capable of helping you through this in a positive way, then it could be life-changing.  However most people I know who go to Psychiatrists (girlfriends mostly) ultimately seem to do it for drug reasons.

[Mupepe]

Well, my mom and brother recommended I go. 

I've become fairly reclusive with my friends for the past few years.  I don't like to go out.  I'm a "compulsive fornicator" as my mom calls it.  They think I'm depressed.  I'm just happy working, taking care of my daughter, playing video games and getting laid. 

[The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment]

Well, my mom and brother recommended I go. 

I've become fairly reclusive with my friends for the past few years.  I don't like to go out.  I'm a "compulsive fornicator" as my mom calls it.  They think I'm depressed.  I'm just happy working, taking care of my daughter, playing video games and getting laid. 

Dude, you need to lay off the sex.

[Mupepe]

Well, my mom and brother recommended I go. 

I've become fairly reclusive with my friends for the past few years.  I don't like to go out.  I'm a "compulsive fornicator" as my mom calls it.  They think I'm depressed.  I'm just happy working, taking care of my daughter, playing video games and getting laid. 

Dude, you need to lay off the sex.

lolz

Nah, they're just overreacting.  My mom assumes I sleep with a lot more people than I actually do.  And she doesn't know I go out as much as I do.  I mean, I don't go out a lot.  But I'm not a shut-in either. 

[BlueTsunami]

I couldn't stand it when I went to a psychologist when I was around 14. It seriously bothered me that the person listening to my problems didn't have any emotional attachment to me (therefor probably didn't care about my issue). I guess thats not the point at the end of the day (since his job is to analyze and offer suggestions on how to resolve the issue).

But I also had family that listened and helped me at the time. If anything psychologist are really helpful for the people that don't have that type of outlet.

[Mr. Gundam]

and I believe a lot of the people pouring into the field are more along the lines of "Vent to me" than "Let me help you."

That's what I do with my clients, which works quite well, as they're middle school students.

[Mupepe]

Well, I don't know.  I don't think I really have a problem to begin with.  She told me things I already knew...

I sleep with women to fill a void.  I like women in relationships because I was hurt when my ex wife cheated on me.  I avoid serious relationships because I don't want to get hurt.

That's shit I've known for a long time now.  I didn't need her to tell me that.

And her suggestions were shit too.  She told me I should focus on my career or school and put more energy in my daughter since she makes me happy.

That shit pissed me off.  I'm doing good with my career.  In the 24 years my department has been around, I'm the youngest person to ever hold my position.

My daughter takes precedence over anything and anyone in my life.  She just pissed me off when she said that shit.  I spend every possible minute with my daughter and I do everything I can for her. 

ajkl;dfal;jf  She got me more pissed off than anything.

[Mr. Gundam]

Well, I don't know.  I don't think I really have a problem to begin with.  She told me things I already knew...

I sleep with women to fill a void.  I like women in relationships because I was hurt when my ex wife cheated on me.  I avoid serious relationships because I don't want to get hurt.

That's shit I've known for a long time now.  I didn't need her to tell me that.

So you're saying that you don't have a problem, yet you mention how you sleep with women to fill a void in your life and you stay away from letting anyone in because you're afraid of getting hurt. These aren't problems?

You might not like her, but it sounds like the therapist was trying to get you identify your problems and start working through them.

[Mupepe]

Well, I don't know.  I don't think I really have a problem to begin with.  She told me things I already knew...

I sleep with women to fill a void.  I like women in relationships because I was hurt when my ex wife cheated on me.  I avoid serious relationships because I don't want to get hurt.

That's shit I've known for a long time now.  I didn't need her to tell me that.

So you're saying that you don't have a problem, yet you mention how you sleep with women to fill a void in your life and you stay away from letting anyone in because you're afraid of getting hurt. These aren't problems?

You might not like her, but it sounds like the therapist was trying to get you identify your problems and start working through them.

Well she tells me shit I already know.  But as in it being a serious problem that's impeding the progression of my life, I don't think so.

And I would like to work through the problems, but I really don't see any way her suggestions would help my problems.  My love life and daughter are completely seperate issues.

[CrystalGemini]

Psychiatrist vs. Psychologist

Psychiatrists deal solving problems with drugs.  Psychologists deal with solving your problems through means other than drugs.

Honey - Why are you stalking me?   

I'M IN A CLASS DAMNIT!!!  >_<

[The Fake Shemp]

What are you talking about.

[Phoenix Dark]

I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Ha, my parents paid a shit ton of money to send me to one a couple times and when I left I had convinced him my parents were crazy

We spend most of the time talking about LOTR and Jimi Hendrix lolz. He told my parents that I was simply acting like a normal teen going through rebellious phases, no big deal. Of course my parents expected that phase to be non-existant as a sign of their BRILLIANT CHRISTIAN CHILD REARING SKILLZ LULZ

 

[The Fake Shemp]

So when does that phase end?

[Mupepe]

I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Ha, my parents paid a shit ton of money to send me to one a couple times and when I left I had convinced him my parents were crazy

We spend most of the time talking about LOTR and Jimi Hendrix lolz. He told my parents that I was simply acting like a normal teen going through rebellious phases, no big deal. Of course my parents expected that phase to be non-existant as a sign of their BRILLIANT CHRISTIAN CHILD REARING SKILLZ LULZ

 

I remember seeing one when I was really little.  It was court ordered in my parents divorce for some reason.  I spent the whole time playing with toy dinosaurs and talking about my obsession with Michael Jackson 

[Phoenix Dark]

Psychiatrist vs. Psychologist

Psychiatrists deal solving problems with drugs.  Psychologists deal with solving your problems through means other than drugs.

Honey - Why are you stalking me?   

I'M IN A CLASS DAMNIT!!!  >_<

No, you're wrong. Pychiatrists are actually doctors, can prescribe drugs, and get paid a shit ton of money.

Psychologists are not doctors, were too lazy to go to medical school and get paid shit. There's a difference

[CrystalGemini]

Close enough.

Psychiatrist = drugs.

Psychologist =  no drugs.

That's all you really need to know.

[The Fake Shemp]

I went a bunch after my mother went through her second divorce.  I never had a stable childhood to begin with, and she was an emotional wreck trying to swim out of debt, so apparently everyone thought it wise to send me to a shrink.  It really didn't help me with much of anything.

My issues with my folks were honestly their issues.  My mother since re-marrying, has been pretty easy to deal with for her.  My father, who went from a bitter man (we exchanged blows, and he shut my eye pretty good) with anger management issues to a good person, is now back down on his luck and I find myself pretty much hating him.

What I learn is that your parents are fucked up, and therapy for the most part, is an easy way for parents to ease their conscience that their children are going through problems out of their control.  When usually it's just the byproduct of them being fucked up.

And my girlfriend is right, PD.  You stfu.

[Van Cruncheon]

i got sent to the school therapist countless times in hs. we swapped pirated amiga games

[The Fake Shemp]

We had a counselor, not a therapist.  He was trying to find out why I was so disruptive in class and that my class clown antics were just a defense mechanism.

Then I learned I was just a jerk!

[Van Cruncheon]

i was just told "you're smart, you're bored, and you're not really malicious. so, were you able to copy Menace or Speedball 2?"

[Phoenix Dark]

So when does that phase end?

I was like 16 at the time

Close enough.

Psychiatrist = drugs.

Psychologist =  no drugs.

That's all you really need to know.

NO. What you need to know is

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

[The Fake Shemp]

Yeah, I got the same thing.  They tested me, and - behold! - I was gifted and talented.  They shipped me off to the magnet program where they were sure I was going to be challenged and excited by new opportunities, and my grade school shenanigans would end.

Wrong.

During that time, I was suspended from school, stabbed a kid in the leg with a pencil, had to sign papers claiming I was involved in sexual harassment and made one of the faculty members cry.

[CajoleJuice]

So who HASN'T gone to a therapist or psychiatrist or whatever?

[The Fake Shemp]

Probably really fucked up people, because they're afraid they'll let it slip that they're really serial killers.

[Phoenix Dark]

You mean FoC?

[CrystalGemini]

NO. What you need to know is

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

Which shows us EXACTLY how much you know about "art" majors.   

So who HASN'T gone to a therapist or psychiatrist or whatever?

I've never needed help from a therapist of any kind.  They, however, need my help.

[The Fake Shemp]

Nah, he's too self depreciating to be really fucked up.  You'd need to find a poster that was weird, but intelligent and gave enough details about his personal life to sort of fit in... but kept a lot to himself.

[CajoleJuice]

NO. What you need to know is

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

Which shows us EXACTLY how much you know about "art" majors.   

So who HASN'T gone to a therapist or psychiatrist or whatever?

I've never needed help from a therapist of any kind.  They, however, need my help.

Better watch out Willco.

[brawndolicious]

phoenix dark

why do you speak?

do you honestly think anything useful comes out?

[Phoenix Dark]

phoenix dark

why do you speak?

do you honestly think anything useful comes out?

I'm just bringing up the more important facts. I know enough psychiatrists - and seen their big ass houses - to know what's up lol. You can look up the average salaries based on jobs if you want too.

Meh. I wanted to be a psychiatrist for a long time lol

[FlameOfCallandor]

I had an awesome childhood. LulZ!!!

[Flannel Boy]

The schools I went to didn't have psychologists or therapists. The public Catholic schools in Ontario were pretty under funded. They couldn't afford bibles so we studied free copies of the Watchtower.

[Phoenix Dark]

The schools I went to didn't have psychologists or therapists. The public Catholic schools in Ontario were pretty under funded. They couldn't afford bibles so we studied free copies of the Watchtower.

BULLSHIT

Please tell me you're lying. The Watchtower...in a Catholic school? Does not compute

[Flannel Boy]

I had an awesome childhood. LulZ!!!

Your favorite childhood memory was of the time you ate that lead paint.

[Flannel Boy]

The schools I went to didn't have psychologists or therapists. The public Catholic schools in Ontario were pretty under funded. They couldn't afford bibles so we studied free copies of the Watchtower.

BULLSHIT

Please tell me you're lying. The Watchtower...in a Catholic school? Does not compute

Lead paint too?

[brawndolicious]

phoenix dark, go fuck yourself.

[Phoenix Dark]

The schools I went to didn't have psychologists or therapists. The public Catholic schools in Ontario were pretty under funded. They couldn't afford bibles so we studied free copies of the Watchtower.

BULLSHIT

Please tell me you're lying. The Watchtower...in a Catholic school? Does not compute

Lead paint too?

I just find it odd that a Catholic church would use a Jehova Witness brochure at all. They don't even believe Jesus was the Christ...and they don't use a "regular" Bible

 

[Flannel Boy]

 


 

[Phoenix Dark]

 

What? Were you joking?

 

 

[TVC15]

Jesus fuck PD is an idiot.  He really believes that psychologists are people that couldn't afford to go to med school?  What kind of idiot believes that?  They're 2 different fields, and I guarantee a lot of psychologists would not want to be psychiatrists.  And besides, they both work in hospitals, so its not like a working psychologist is making a hell of a lot less than a psychiatrist.

And for the record, psychologists working within the confines of a hospital pretty much can prescribe drugs.  As long as they have a good working relationship with a psychiatrist, they'll be trusted to know what the score is. . .as long as the score isn't something that requires heavy treatment, like schizophrenia and the like.

[Phoenix Dark]

Jesus fuck PD is an idiot.  He really believes that psychologists are people that couldn't afford to go to med school?  What kind of idiot believes that?  They're 2 different fields, and I guarantee a lot of psychologists would not want to be psychiatrists.  And besides, they both work in hospitals, so its not like a working psychologist is making a hell of a lot less than a psychiatrist.

And for the record, psychologists working within the confines of a hospital pretty much can prescribe drugs.  As long as they have a good working relationship with a psychiatrist, they'll be trusted to know what the score is. . .as long as the score isn't something that requires heavy treatment, like schizophrenia and the like.

Where did I say they couldn't afford to go? And no, they don't get paid the same, at all

I've never heard of any psychologists that can do that. In order to prescribe drugs you have to be a doctor. Now if the doctor is giving them the right away to prescribe things to his/her patients, that's a different story

[G The Resurrected]

i have been going to therapy for 3 Years its helped me yery little but i've learned a lot about myself in other ways but it still doesnt help i wish it did