Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.

[TVC15]

Sorry, PD< you have only made disparaging remarks about psychologists, leading me to believe that yes, you are indeed a total tool:

Psychologists are not doctors, were too lazy to go to medical school and get paid shit. There's a difference

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

(like, what does this even mean?)

And in the situations I was prescribing, the psychologist would typically write the prescription and the psychiatrist (or in some cases) MD, would sign it.

So what's your reason for putting down psychologists, you fuck?

[brawndolicious]

pd, psychologists can prescribe whatever the fuck they want because they ALWAYS tell you to go a psychiatrist they know and will just tell them what to prescribe you, nothing else.  only difference in their methods is psychologist doesn't mind if you stop taking the drugs.

now shut the fuck up.

you are truly a worthless person.

[Phoenix Dark]

Sorry, PD< you have only made disparaging remarks about psychologists, leading me to believe that yes, you are indeed a total tool:

Psychologists are not doctors, were too lazy to go to medical school and get paid shit. There's a difference

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

(like, what does this even mean?)

And in the situations I was prescribing, the psychologist would typically write the prescription and the psychiatrist (or in some cases) MD, would sign it.

So what's your reason for putting down psychologists, you fuck?

In other words, they aren't prescribing the drugs - the MD is. Hence my point about only doctors being able to prescribe them. Dur

I'm not putting them down, just pointing out the differences. On average psychiatrists make more than twice as much as psychologists. Are they lazy fucks? Probably not, but I can have some fucking space for hyperbolic comments on the internet, can't I Mr. "America is the worst place on earth" TVC?

[Phoenix Dark]

pd, psychologists can prescribe whatever the fuck they want because they ALWAYS tell you to go a psychiatrist they know and will just tell them what to prescribe you, nothing else.  only difference in their methods is psychologist doesn't mind if you stop taking the drugs.

now shut the fuck up.

you are truly a worthless person.

Bullshit.

In the United States, the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act defines what requires a prescription. Prescription drugs are generally authorized by doctors, though physician assistants and nurse practitioners do an increasing amount of drug prescribing. It is generally required that an MD,DO,PA or NP write the prescription; nurses (other than nurse practitioners), emergency medical technicians, psychologists (but not psychiatrists, who are MDs), as examples, do not generally have the authority to prescribe drugs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescription_drug

I think New Mexico is the only state in the US that allows psychologists to prescribe drugs.

Before New Mexico’s act, only the US territory of Guam allowed psychologists to prescribe drugs. Guam lumped psychologists with physician assistants as allied healthcare specialists with prescribing privileges in 1998, but to date no psychologists there have taken advantage of the law.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7339/698/d

[Mupepe]

New Mexico is a shithole.

[brawndolicious]

just b@n him.

don't let him shit up anything he wants again.

[Phoenix Dark]

just b@n him.

don't let him shit up anything he wants again.

Brilliant come back. Talk to me when you know what the fuck you're talking about

[TVC15]

Sorry, PD< you have only made disparaging remarks about psychologists, leading me to believe that yes, you are indeed a total tool:

Psychologists are not doctors, were too lazy to go to medical school and get paid shit. There's a difference

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

(like, what does this even mean?)

And in the situations I was prescribing, the psychologist would typically write the prescription and the psychiatrist (or in some cases) MD, would sign it.

So what's your reason for putting down psychologists, you fuck?

In other words, they aren't prescribing the drugs - the MD is. Hence my point about only doctors being able to prescribe them. Dur

I'm not putting them down, just pointing out the differences. On average psychiatrists make more than twice as much as psychologists. Are they lazy fucks? Probably not, but I can have some fucking space for hyperbolic comments on the internet, can't I Mr. "America is the worst place on earth?"

Sorry, you said it, and believed it, when you called them too lazy to get a medical degree.  You're a classic example of someone that knows he's got a brain, and uses that as an excuse to be the loudest shouter without considering anyone else's point of view.  You, you wanted to be a PSYCHIATRIST!  And on some distinguished mentally-challenged scale in your head, this made you better than a PSYCHOLOGIST. 

[brawndolicious]

Brilliant come back. Talk to me when you know what the fuck you're talking about

did you even read what I wrote you worthless little moronic piece of shit?

[TVC15]

Also, don't say my first name on the forum please.

[Phoenix Dark]

Also, don't say my first name on the forum please.

I'm sorry; I'll edit the post

did you even read what I wrote you worthless little moronic piece of shit?

Yeah, I did asshole

pd, psychologists can prescribe whatever the fuck they want because they ALWAYS tell you to go a psychiatrist they know and will just tell them what to prescribe you, nothing else.  only difference in their methods is psychologist doesn't mind if you stop taking the drugs.

They have no authority to tell psychiatrists what to do with patients. All they can do is give suggestions.

And once again for good measure...

In the United States, the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act defines what requires a prescription. Prescription drugs are generally authorized by doctors, though physician assistants and nurse practitioners do an increasing amount of drug prescribing. It is generally required that an MD,DO,PA or NP write the prescription; nurses (other than nurse practitioners), emergency medical technicians, psychologists (but not psychiatrists, who are MDs), as examples, do not generally have the authority to prescribe drugs.

[brawndolicious]

THEY GET TO SUGGEST IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A MEDICAL DEGREE YOU FUCKWIT.

[Phoenix Dark]

THEY GET TO SUGGEST IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A MEDICAL DEGREE YOU FUCKWIT.

Suggesting does not equal prescribing

Prescribing is a medical term in this case. Stop looking at it from an everyday word perspective lol. Their suggestion holds no weight on a psychiatrist

[brawndolicious]

you're giving your real-world experience based on house sizes and you're saying I'm out of touch?

[Phoenix Dark]

you're giving your real-world experience based on house sizes and you're saying I'm out of touch?

You're dead wrong - there's a difference. You have yet to point out any facts, and have instead wasted your time calling me names. As if I care. Psychologists cannot prescribe drugs in the United States under the  Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. In New Mexico the law was successfully appealed, although ever since there has been a legal battle to set things back to the way they once were.

Psychiatrists are MDs and make a lot of more money on average than psychologists, who are not doctors.

In conclusion, you have no point, as usual. The stalling has been impressive though

[brawndolicious]

DUMBSHIT, am I talking about what a psychologist is capable of or what he's likely to do?

[Phoenix Dark]

DUMBSHIT, am I talking about what a psychologist is capable of or what he's likely to do?

pd, psychologists can prescribe whatever the fuck they want because they ALWAYS tell you to go a psychiatrist they know and will just tell them what to prescribe you, nothing else. only difference in their methods is psychologist doesn't mind if you stop taking the drugs.

lol

You are hilarious.

[brawndolicious]

yes I mentioned that when saying that they have different methods which is what this thread was about.

[Phoenix Dark]

yes I mentioned that when saying that they have different methods which is what this thread was about.

No, you mentioned that in responce to my claim that psychologists cannot prescribe drugs. That along with the salary issue has been my only statement about psychologists in this thread. First TVC took objection, and then you piggybacked on. At least TVC brought up a relevent point

[brawndolicious]

No, you mentioned that in responce to my claim that psychologists cannot prescribe drugs. That along with the salary issue has been my only statement about psychologists in this thread. First TVC took objection, and then you piggybacked on. At least TVC brought up a relevent point

No you REALLY fucked this thread up:

Some people mention the difference between psychologist's and psychiatrist's methods.

You say psychiatrist's use a different method because of schooling.

And no, I don't agree with anybody without knowing their opinion on anti-depressants.

[Phoenix Dark]

No, you mentioned that in responce to my claim that psychologists cannot prescribe drugs. That along with the salary issue has been my only statement about psychologists in this thread. First TVC took objection, and then you piggybacked on. At least TVC brought up a relevent point

No you REALLY fucked this thread up:

Some people mention the difference between psychologist's and psychiatrist's methods.

You say psychiatrist's use a different method because of schooling.

And no, I don't agree with anybody without knowing their opinion on anti-depressants.

Where did I say that?

It's not about a "different method". We are talking about the prescription of drugs. I suppose you could say that schooling plays a role, and it does: if you don't go to medical school, you won't be prescribing drugs in this country.

I should just give up because now you're embarrasing yourself

[brawndolicious]

Where did I say that?
It's not about a "different method". We are talking about the prescription of drugs. I suppose you could say that schooling plays a role, and it does: if you don't go to medical school, you won't be prescribing drugs in this country.
I should just give up because now you're embarrasing yourself

NO. What you need to know is
Psychiatrist=money
Psychologist=no money
But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

you wanted to be a psychatrist without knowing what the hell they do? wow what an idiot.

[Phoenix Dark]

Where did I say that?
It's not about a "different method". We are talking about the prescription of drugs. I suppose you could say that schooling plays a role, and it does: if you don't go to medical school, you won't be prescribing drugs in this country.
I should just give up because now you're embarrasing yourself

NO. What you need to know is
Psychiatrist=money
Psychologist=no money
But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

you wanted to be a psychatrist without knowing what the hell they do? wow what an idiot.

And? Psychiatrists make far more money than psychologists.

How does that relate to your schooling point?

[brawndolicious]

And? Psychiatrists make far more money than psychologists.
How does that relate to your schooling point?

I've seen you talk like a mouthpiece for anti-depressants and now you barely know what the fuck you're going to be doing other then prescribing them if you were a psychiatrist so don't talk about this.

[Phoenix Dark]

And? Psychiatrists make far more money than psychologists.
How does that relate to your schooling point?

I've seen you talk like a mouthpiece for anti-depressants and now you barely know what the fuck you're going to be doing other then prescribing them if you were a psychiatrist so don't talk about this.

Show me where I mentioned "anti-depressants" ONE TIME. One time, go ahead.

I said at one point I wanted to be a psychiatrist - why are you changing the issue? The issue is Crystal made a comment, I responded; we both agreed on an issue - psychiatrists can prescribe drugs while psychologists cannot. She said that was the only difference, but I disagreed and said the other difference is that psychiatrists are doctors and make far more money. Then, like the dick rider you are, you came into the thread trying to work me up about my comment while paying no attention to the similar ones Crystal made with respect to prescribing drugs.

  I've never seen a more shameless dickrider than you. You aren't Drinky, so why waste your time trying to instigate drama over the internets?

[TVC15]

Could you people shut up and stop arguing!  PD, I *TOLD* you about trying to converse with this. . .alien.

[brawndolicious]

One can use these kinds of drugs in a "recreactional" manner for a time, but eventually it doesn't satisfy. The use increases due to the mind's reaction to the drug; as your dopamine starts depleting and the highs become weaker, use is increased just to achieve what once would be a rather normal high. In other words, the body is not happy, and neither are you as the depression kicks in.

So that means you think depression could be cured with drugs.

[Phoenix Dark]

Could you people shut up and stop arguing!  PD, I *TOLD* you about trying to converse with this. . .alien.

This dude is hilarious. Either he simply can't read or he's just attempting to mimic Drinky. Either way it's not working. The two points I made stand, so why I'm arguing is beyond me. Perhaps it's because my internet ego is far too big, especially for a dumbass such as myself

[Phoenix Dark]

One can use these kinds of drugs in a "recreactional" manner for a time, but eventually it doesn't satisfy. The use increases due to the mind's reaction to the drug; as your dopamine starts depleting and the highs become weaker, use is increased just to achieve what once would be a rather normal high. In other words, the body is not happy, and neither are you as the depression kicks in.

So that means you think depression could be cured with drugs.

How long did it take you to search for that? It doesn't even have anything to do with this thread. That post was concerning illegal drug use.

So once again, where did I mention anti-depressants? In this thread or any other, although I certainly didn't expect you to dig up a month old post

[brawndolicious]

You're using as much proof that the body stops producing dopamine as psychiatrists do.

You did know that, right?

[Phoenix Dark]

You're using as much proof that the body stops producing dopamine as psychiatrists do.

You did know that, right?

What's your point? Are you denying that constant use of illegal drugs like cocaine causes a "diminishing returns" like effect due to the loss of dopamine, which starts ruining the high? What medical magazine are you reading?

Stop changing the issue.

[TVC15]

Let me get this back on topic.

[brawndolicious]

No, there is no proof that the body stops producing dopamine.

Psychiatrists admit this if you ask, that's a theory that the brain stops producing dopamine and that you feel depressed specifically because the brain stopped producing dopamine.

[Phoenix Dark]

Where did I say the body stops producing dopamine permanantly, or stops at all? Show me that please.

When you first start using drugs you get a high release in dopamine. Yet the more you do the drugs, the less dopamine is released - that's why I used the "diminishing returns" analogy.

Now you're just trying to instigate and/or catch me in a factual error. Not going to happen.

[brawndolicious]

which is the same thing that anti-depressants do to make your brain release more.

[Phoenix Dark]

So I take it you aren't a fan of anti-depressants correct?

[BlueTsunami]

Has Roxy reched Meme status? Because this will be the best one to come out of Evilbore. EVER

[brawndolicious]

No, they are specifically designed to change your lifestyle, I highly doubt that they could help though.

Makes you believe you are physically addicted/disturbed.

[Phoenix Dark]

No, they are specifically designed to change your lifestyle, I highly doubt that they could help though.

Makes you believe you are physically addicted/disturbed.

So you tend to fall in line with Tom Cruise's beliefs - not all of them out course - on psychiatrists and anti-depressants?

[brawndolicious]

I took them, hated the effect, got the shit beaten out of me for not wanting to take them anymore, and then hid them in the corner of my mouth for months.

That's not something that makes you go saying random facts on tv, that's something that's going to give you some fucking real-life experience.

[Prost]

Do you feel guilty when you constantly try to sleep with women?

[Mupepe]

Do you feel guilty when you constantly try to sleep with women?

No.  Not at all.