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The Fake Shemp

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In this collection of recommendations, commentary and the usual film trolling, we'll recommend and talk about little seen films.  And I do not mean classic cinema from yester year, as anyone can go onto AFI list and pick classic movies they need or want to watch.  This is to recommend that little film that couldn't, the film you have fond memories of, but nobody else even remembers.  This is Films You Probably Didn't See.

In this volume, I dissect and recommend a rather unappreciated science-fiction film from the 80s called Enemy Mine.  It has somewhat of a cult following, as evident by a Lonely Island sketch that was effectively recreated for SNL, but as time goes on, it sinks farther and farther into obscurity.

Enemy Mine (1985) had a long and difficult production, which included a director swap, a complete re-shoot and budget problems that saw the film delayed into theaters way past its inital release date.  Yet, with all of those things going against it, which usually makes for a mediocre, incoherent production, Enemy Mine surfaced as an unseen gem of the science-fiction genre, albeit flawed and marred by mind boggling studio decisions.  No one will mistake it for a masterpiece or even a genre classic, but it would be wise to give it a flyer considering how it is very much different than what is out there.

The film had problems with directors from the start.  FOX had tried hard to lure David Fincher, and then went on to try and catch Terry Gilliam for what they thought was a pretty good fit.  Gilliam, although intrigued by the project, decided to pass on the opportunity to focus on some film called "Brazil".  FOX ended up settling for Richard Loncraine, who went on to direct such classics as "Firewall" and "Wimbledon".  Loncraine began shooting Enemy Mine in Iceland, and apparently got pretty far into production, when he clashed with producers.  He left the project.  Wolfgang Peterson, then still a young gun following the huge success of "Das Boot" and the mixed success of "The Neverending Story", took over the production.  He was able to convince producers to move the production to Germany, where he had previously shot "Das Boot" and "The Neverending Story".  And from there, he completely re-shot the entire movie.

The movie opens up with two warring races, humans and Dracs (this ugly looking reptile things).  Dennis Quaid's character, a human fighter pilot named Davidge, is fighting a Drac fighter pilot named Jeriba (Quaid calls him "Jerry"), played Louis Gossett Jr. underneath a lot of neat makeup.  They crash on a habitable planet with extreme weather and dangerous lifeforms, so they soon settle their differences to survive.

The movie is effectively split into two, with one half focusing on Davidge and Jerry's friendship, as they overcome their differences and learn more about each other's races.  The other half happens when by the miracle of science-fiction, Jerry becomes pregnant and dies giving birth to his son.  Davidge is forced to raise the son, Zammis, as his own and pass down the few Drac traditions he knows.  This is also when a studio mandated subplot kicks in, which I think is the weakest point of the film, where Davidge must rescue Zammis from an (ugh) enemy mine.  FOX apparently believed audiences would be confused about the title, which is from the book the film is based on, unless there was an actual mine involved somehow.  The only thing that truly makes this sequence not fall apart is how Davidge must act against his own people to save someone of a race that humans are at war with.  On the other hand, the slave mine owners are so dislikeable, you want to see them get their asses kicked no matter what.

The story has a bunch of unique wrinkles, and considering that it's often just two people on screen for large amounts of time, nobody manages to crumble under the weight of it all.  It's very much a character-driven film.  And it works, because you do want Davidge and Zammis to make it out alive, so that as Jerry explains earlier, they can go to the Drac homeworld to recount his ancestry.  There is a touching moment at the end that pretty much caps the movie in good spirits.  Dennis Quaid does a solid job carrying the movie, but if I have a real criticism, it's just that it looks like he's playing the same character he played in almost every 80s film (hothead, cocky handsome guy with a heart of gold).  This time... in space!

The set design is pretty good, and definitely has more of an 80s fantasy vibe than that of the oft-repeated dirty, Star Wars design that was so prevalent in the 80s.  The planet they crash on is diverse, so you will see extreme snow and fire and brimstone and all that good stuff.  The most intriguing thing about the planet are the lifeforms; despite the fact that you have two humanoid races with advanced technology, they are pretty much defenseless on this planet.  There is one monster tentacle thing in particular that used to scare the crap out of me as a kid.

Wolfgang Peterson adds a very solid film to his resume, but like The Neverending Story, this was never a film that found much of an audience in theatres.  It wasn't until the advent of VHS and cable that people got to see this little flick, and during the early 90s, there was a cult following that has shrunk as time has gone on.  There are several neat tricks that Peterson does in the film, stuff that he learned from his experiences on "Das Boot" and "The Neverending Story", that show he's a bit more than just a competent director.  At times, the film feels like it could happen in a not-too-distant galaxy to that of the Neverending Story universe, because it has a distinct look and feel that is reminiscent of his previous film.

The sound design is pretty good, but the score leaves much to be desired.  Maurice Jarre pretty much recycles direct cues from his work on "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" and disguises it in some more recycled garbage from his career.  Jarre was a pretty accomplished composer at the time, but it sounds like he was suffering from Elfman-esque burnout, in that everything just started to sound the same.  He moved to a more synthetic sound in the 80s, and quite frankly, it makes the film sound like a generic adventure movie from that time period.  It's probably the weakest technical aspect of the film.

Overall, it's a solid, entertaining science fiction film that is different than most of the drek released in the 80s and still very different from the drek released nowadays.  I recommend taking a flyer on this little seen release, or watching cable listings for airtimes, because this is the kind of film that simply wouldn't be made nowadays.  Futhermore, this is the kind of film I'd support a remake of, because there's still so much to be done with the concept with a more accepting studio and more established filmmaker involved.

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007, 05:49:57 PM »
enemy mine was a great movie. I liked the part where that guy fell into the rock grinder or whatever. that was sick!

or that fucking sand creature. that thing scared the shit out of me when i was a kid.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 05:51:38 PM »
Yeah, that's what really sticks out of my mind is the tentacle sand creature.  It's like a little, mobile sarlacc pit that will hunt you down.  When I saw that when I was younger, it bothered the hell out of me.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 06:11:06 PM »
80's nostalgic somewhat-cheesey sci-fi rocked.






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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 06:14:48 PM »
Wow, Cheebs just listed what I was doing in middle school.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2007, 06:17:22 PM »
Wow, Cheebs just listed what I was doing in middle school.
eh?

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2007, 06:18:37 PM »
And yet, the biggest injustice of all is no Night of the Creeps on DVD.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2007, 06:21:27 PM »
And yet, the biggest injustice of all is no Night of the Creeps on DVD.
Anything to do with night of the comet? Night of the comet is a fucking awesome 80's cult sci-fi 'flick.

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2007, 06:24:09 PM »
None at all.  That said, while Night of the Comet is fun (I just watched it the other day, in fact), Night of the Creeps is way better.  If you watch it, you'll wonder if James Gunn had to pay Fred Dekker royalties when he basically took the plot and made Slither (although, Slither feels more like an homage).

Dekker directed two of my favorite films of the 80s, with Night of the Creeps and his more well-known follow up film, The Monster Squad.

Dekker wrote and directed a bunch of genre stuff in the 80s, including House and Tales from the Crypt.  But he took up the job opening for RoboCop 3 and that essentially killed his career (and if I'm not mistaken, didn't that bankrupt Orion as well?).
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2007, 06:47:37 PM »
I read the short story, does that count.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2007, 06:48:28 PM »
I read the short story, does that count.

Two points.

Is it any good? The author apparently does conventions now, and he sounds pretty bitter about the movie.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2007, 07:18:16 PM »
Wow, Cheebs just listed what I was doing in middle school.
eh?

I was addicted to 99.98% of the movies you posted :-*
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2007, 07:19:53 PM »
MAZES AND MONSTERS

Before Tom Hanks became of the greatest actors of all time he played in this classic
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2007, 07:55:28 PM »
No one's seen Enemy Mine?


No wonder no one gets my Sam Cassell joke :(  He looks just like Louis Gossett Junior in this movie, complete with the beak for teeth.

If you can find a good, large picture of Gossett Junior in his makeup from this movie I'd be very happy.  I've looked for a long time now only to come up empty.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2007, 08:38:37 PM »
Enemy Mine rox.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2007, 08:49:52 PM »
MAZES AND MONSTERS

Before Tom Hanks became of the greatest actors of all time he played in this classic

My favorite Tom Hanks movie(no joke):

I thought I was getting into a fun comedy movie but the film slowly devolved into a freaky almost horror film with cannibals. Quite shocking and disturbing for little Cheebs.   :'(

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2007, 08:52:45 PM »
The 'Burbs rawks.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2007, 08:54:22 PM »
The 'Burbs rawks.
Carrie Fisher's second best non-star wars role as well!

First being Blues Brothers. Carrie when she was cute + rocket launcher = awesome

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2007, 09:17:20 PM »
I've seen this movie more times than I've seen Citizen Kane.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2007, 09:34:19 PM »
Probably because Citizen Kane is boring and Enemy Mine is the bee's knees.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2007, 08:00:50 AM »
I recommend Wonder Boys as a criminally underrated and underseen flick. God I love that movie. Best of 2000 for moi.

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2007, 05:45:44 AM »
Wonder Boys the book shits all over Wonder Boys the movie, IMO.  The movie is good, but Michael Douglas should not have been playing that role.  It also got nominated for some Oscars, which to me, negates the whole "underrated" thing.

I recommend...

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People are always jizzing themselves over Sergio Leone's spaghetti Westerns, but he was only the biggest director in the genre, not the only one.  Mostly forgotten are a number of other awesome directors like the two other Sergios - Sollima and Corbucci - who did extensive work in the genre.  While I love Sabata, Face to Face, The Hellbenders, A Bullet for the General, Companeros, The Great Silence, and Texas Adios, I gotta rank Django at the top of the non-Leone westerns.  This is the movie that gave Kojima the idea for Boktai (the whole play mechanic of dragging coffins to sunlight), as well as the name of the protagonist for that game.

Basically it centers around a stranger dressed in a Union uniform who comes to a little border town in the middle of nowhere, dragging along a coffin besides him.  The plot gets a little bit confusing at times (featuring klansmen in red hoods working for a Southern general, as well as a gang of Mexican revolutionaries, all hunting for a stockpile of gold), but the reason to see it is to see what's hidden in that coffin - and to see Django unleash hell against forty rampaging klansmen!

The movie's plot makes no sense, but it has great atmosphere (like all Corbucci's westerns), catchy dialogue, and tons of ultraviolence (Tarantino ripped off one of the most famous scenes for Reservoir Dogs - one of the mexican revolutionaries cuts off a priest's ear...except Corbucci goes farther and makes the priest eat it!).

This is an awesome, awesome movie, and it's available in a great 2-disc set from Blue Underground.  Be sure to watch it with the original Italian dub, which features Franco Nero's voice - the English dub isn't nearly as good.  Yeah, it feels weird to watch a Western in Italian at first, but the English dub is pretty awful...

Also of note is the Enrique Bacalov soundtrack - very Morricone-influenced, but very catchy all on its own.

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2007, 06:59:49 AM »
Get outta here with you Wonder Boys hate. Also, its the only tolerable Michael Douglas performance. Hell, I actually really liked him in it.

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2007, 07:01:59 AM »
Get outta here with you Wonder Boys hate. Also, its the only tolerable Michael Douglas performance. Hell, I actually really liked him in it.

I don't hate it, it just doesn't compare to the book.  And Michael Douglas is awesome, he's just not suited for that particular role.  He was great in Falling Down, Traffic, The Game, etc.  He's just good at playing white corporate/government assholes, not pot-smoking, unkempt hippies.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2007, 07:03:45 AM »
Well then it looks like we'll agree to disagree. Douglas only plays white corporate assholes so well because it doesnt require acting on his part.

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2007, 07:09:12 AM »
Well then it looks like we'll agree to disagree. Douglas only plays white corporate assholes so well because it doesnt require acting on his part.

Not like Clint Eastwood was doing any acting in his spaghetti Westerns either.  Sometimes non-acting delivers a great performance and works for the movie.  Michael Douglas is a cool dude who has done plenty of good movies, and is married to a smokin' hot lady.  He gets my respect. :)
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2007, 07:14:40 AM »
Clint never did much acting. He is more about the presence than anything. Natural cool and charisma.

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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2007, 07:20:00 AM »
Clint never did much acting. He is more about the presence than anything. Natural cool and charisma.

Just like Michael Douglas. ;)
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2007, 10:08:58 AM »
Ya, Enemy Mine was a great movie. It always pissed me off that the horribly average "Starman" was a big hit and audiences passed on this one.

I never like to revisit old movies .. ruins my memories of them, but I remember the acting in this being superb (for a sci-fi movie), even though the effects were minimal. Really carried the movie.

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I loved Krull as a 7 year old boy (even bought the god awful Atari game), but watching that movie again years later is painful.  Just doesn't hold up.

Dreamscape (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087175/) is another movie I will not "revisit" .. I loved it as a kid, but I have a feeling it's going to look as bad as Krull does now.

The Last Starfighter and Enemy Mine are the two sci-fi movies from the 80's that still stand up today.


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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2007, 10:18:38 AM »
 :lol

That's true.  Krull was a childhood favorite and it's unwatchable.  How sad.

Thanks for reminding me of the shitty Starman as well.  It is a shame that Enemy Mine lost out to that drek.  EM even explored uni-sex relationships in a touching and realistic way. 


edit:  Good call on The Last Starfighter too.  I really enjoy the performances of the guide and the lead alien, top notch stuff for that type of movie.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2007, 10:39:50 AM »
Enemy Mine was like Brokeback Mountain, but in space, with aliens, and less gay.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2007, 10:44:11 AM »
I thought it was heartfelt  :-*

Besides, Louis Gossett Jr was half female/alien/whatever,  he even cooed  :-*
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2007, 10:47:20 AM »
I'd like to see outtakes, there has to be scenes where both bust out laughing when he was cooing.
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Re: Films You Probably Didn't See, Vol. 1 - My Pick? Enemy Mine (1985)
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2007, 10:52:21 AM »
Enemy Mine was like Brokeback Mountain, but in space, with aliens, and less gay.

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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2007, 11:02:53 AM »
I'd like to see outtakes, there has to be scenes where both bust out laughing when he was cooing.

I can do a killer Enemy Mine coo  :-*


However, much like my Sam Cassell comparison, it often falls flat.  Because, apparently no one has seen the damn thing. 
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