Getting a new MP3 player.

[omg_lemurs]

Do I get a new iAudio X5... or do I get a Cowon D2.

My X5 done broke. I put it in and out of my pocket in my jeans a lot and there's a large 1/8 plug on my headphones and it fucked up my MP3 player. The X5 is pretty much the greatest MP3 player ever... it served me well. I want to get a new one.

BUT I also want to try my hand at a flash based MP3 player. I was never interested before until I saw this:

http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/cowon/d2/

It is another Cowon player yes. But I've never been interested in any of their other flash based MP3 players either. The thing that caught my eye about this one is the battery life (52 hours for music), touch screen UI, high quality video playback, SD card slot, 4gb, uber functionality.

It's a do everything player like the X5 and that's what I love. I need something that lets me fiddle around and tweak various aspects of the playback and this player offers that. But... it's a flash based player and I  like having a player that can carry all my music. However the fact that this has an SD card slot which not a whole lot of players these days have... makes things much more interesting. I could certainly spend a shit load of money and buy multiple 4 GB SD cards but... that's expensive.

If only the X5 had such a nice screen and 52 hours of playback. :[

I have my mind settled on one of these two players but if there's something else out there as functional I'd love to know about it.

[Vizzys]

that looks so much like the iriver clix

http://www.amazon.com/iRiver-CXW-4G-Digital-Music-Player/dp/B000KTHYQ4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-8615502-6342225?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1172813958&sr=8-1

[Van Cruncheon]

just give it up and get an iPod like the rest of the civilized world you silly thing

[Vizzys]

ipods are terrible

lemurs the cowon d2 isnt out yet (or I cant find it)

[xnikki118x]

just give it up and get an iPod like the rest of the civilized world you silly thing

Go eff yourself, lemming.

[bagofeyes]

just give it up and get an iPod like the rest of the civilized world you silly thing

Yeah, do this

[Itch]

I've been looking at the Cowon D2 for the past two weeks now. I'm about to make my purchase but I'm still trying to get a few things cleared up before I take the plunge. I don't have a ton of music files so I'm not too worried about the limited storage of a flash player. Right now I use my phone as my portable music player but the video functions of my phone are lacking and having a dedicated PMP would be nice since I no longer have my iPod. The only thing I'm unclear about right now is what resolution the video has to be for playback. All my videos are in MP4 format at iPod video resolution and I don't want to have to re-encode all my videos if I can avoid it.

It would have been easy to get the iPod Nano but it doesn't have video playback (might as well stick with my phone in that case), not to mention that the ability to add additional storage to the D2, among other nice features, puts it several notches above the Nano and other flash players. Also the fact that the D2 doesn't look like shit is a huge plus for me. I'm very style concious when it comes to these things and I wouldn't buy something if it didn't at least look good.

ipods are terrible

lemurs the cowon d2 isnt out yet (or I cant find it)

You can get them on eBay for around $200.

Check it, http://stores.ebay.com/iAUDIO-Store

[Vizzys]

for around that price be better getting a creative zen vision:m which I have and rocks.

I think its 230$ hdd based though

[Van Cruncheon]

you don't know ROCKS until you've owned an iPod

wah wah wah wah sound quality what the fuck your scabby nerd ears aren't missin' a thing

[Saint Cornelius]

I love this anti-iPod stance people have... it's so hilarious to me 

"I'm an individual, goddamnit!"

[Flannel Boy]

I love this anti-iPod stance people have... it's so hilarious to me 

"I'm an individual, goddamnit!"

I'm just poor.

$34 Lyra 

[Van Cruncheon]

when you're a TEEN, it's important to NOT CONFORM

ironically, every teen hatin' on the ipod has a myspace

[Saint Cornelius]

Okay, being poor is one thing... but have you checked out Apple's refurbished store? Hella good discounts on iPods.

People who dismiss the iPod out of spite though, that's ridiculous. Assert your individuality via your DAP!

[whiteACID]

Speaking of, I need to get a new Ipod

[Van Cruncheon]

i'm rockin' out to A YOUNG JAMES HETFIELD on my nano right now

[Itch]

when you're a TEEN, it's important to NOT CONFORM

ironically, every teen hatin' on the ipod has a myspace

Sure, if you aren't one of the popular kids.

Save the statements about "idividuality" for college.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I used to have a Nomad Zen. Then I sold it and got an iPod. Then I was much much much happier.

[Mupepe]

I love my ipod.  But if you have the money, there are better things out there.

[Saint Cornelius]

...like?

[The Fake Shemp]

iPods are great.  I still use my G4 for long trips, but I've been using my PSP as an all around media player for everyday use.

[Mupepe]

...like?

read the first post

[Saint Cornelius]

A Cowon doesn't cost as much as an iPod. In fact, I'm pretty sure that iPods are the most expensive DAPs around - another reason why certain people don't like them.

[bluemax]

when you're a TEEN, it's important to NOT CONFORM

ironically, every teen hatin' on the ipod has a myspace

Sure, if you aren't one of the popular kids.

Save the statements about "idividuality" for college.

Everyone in college has an ipod, except all them wacky foreign kids.

Student discount on apple products + bookstore sales FTW.

[Vizzys]

you don't know ROCKS until you've owned an iPod

wah wah wah wah sound quality what the fuck your scabby nerd ears aren't missin' a thing

mine broke for no reason lol

[omg_lemurs]

just give it up and get an iPod like the rest of the civilized world you silly thing

1. I don't want a player that fucking imprints onto one computer so I can't use it on any other PC.
2. I'm not paying apple $30 for an accessory (wall plug adapter) that should come packed in with the player.
3. I'm not using a fucking player that I need proprietary software in order to use. Shitty proprietary software that automatically syncs shit that hey... maybe I don't want to have synced?
4. I don't want to download shitty 3rd party software as a replacement for the shitty iTunes software.
5. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah... limited codec support, shitty battery life, overpriced accessories.
6. I don't want a fucking player that won't let me drag and drop music from my player back onto my PC or any other PC.
7. Fuck iPod.

The only thing that ever tempted me was the 80 GB. But since it's such a hassle and you can't use it as a plug and go mass storage device... and it imprints onto one computer fuck it. There's no point.

[omg_lemurs]

ipods are terrible

lemurs the cowon d2 isnt out yet (or I cant find it)

They are. Check out Cowons' website or look on www.jetmall.com

I might want to get the CLIX2 8GB when it comes out in the states. I don't know how long that's going to be though. I'm waiting for Cowon to release their follow up to the X5 already but it doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.

Shit I'm still waiting for a followup to the iRiver H300. :/ All these companies seem to be focused on releasing smaller flash based devices rather than DAPs with massive HDD storage.

[Vizzys]

drm am bad, very true

[omg_lemurs]

I wouldn't hate the iPod if it wasn't a piece of shit. I like Apple's overpriced computer hardware but to see all the faults in the iPod and pretend they don't exist is a load of horse shit. The UI isn't all that important to me, I couldn't give a shit about a click wheel, and iTunes is a piece of shit. These two selling points I'm indifferent to along with all the stuff I listed does not make for a good purchase in my eyes. I don't care about conformity or non-conformity, I care not to spend $250-350 on a smelly turd of a player when there's so much else out there.

I love how Apple sheep sit with such smugness and self satisfaction. It's as though they relish every moment and every thrust of Apples hard cock as it ravages their wallets and assholes. Apple makes some decent hardware. When it comes to audio and video editing their shit is second to none. To not see a little humor or shittyness in the fact that there's a new MAC OS every 6 fucking month is absurd, and to not mind the restrictiveness of the iPod is just low standards.

[Saint Cornelius]

Great, you managed to call it a piece of shit repeatedly without any more of an argument other than... it's a piece of shit.

In the meantime, you're replacing the cheap Korean DAP you speak so highly of, while I'm rocking my 5G iPod with no difficulties - other than the fact that it's scratched as fuck.

[bagofeyes]

  angry teens. Ipods are awesome.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I buy all my audio on physical CDs and rip to 320VBR MP3.

My iPod plays this audio without any DRM restrictions.

Yay!

[omg_lemurs]

Great, you managed to call it a piece of shit repeatedly without any more of an argument other than... it's a piece of shit.

In the meantime, you're replacing the cheap Korean DAP you speak so highly of, while I'm rocking my 5G iPod with no difficulties - other than the fact that it's scratched as fuck.

Maybe you missed the post where I gave... I think 7 reasons why I didn't want an iPod and ordered them numerically. I made the thread saying I didn't want an iPod and people come in and say iPod. I don't need those shenanigans. People here think they're being funny and ironic but really it's just obnoxious. Seriously, shut the fuck up.

Go back and read my post again you ADD illiterate douchebag. I had your number the minute I read any of your posts. When you were in school did you switch classes or did you have all your subjects in the same classroom? How big was your bus? Did you call your teacher by his or her first name?

Get the fuck out of my thread Saint Cornelius. You're giving me a headache trying to understand your distinguished mentally-challenged thought process. Go fuck yourself. I hate you.

[omg_lemurs]

I buy all my audio on physical CDs and rip to 320VBR MP3.

My iPod plays this audio without any DRM restrictions.

Yay!

Can you hook your iPod up to more than one computer?

Can you use the iPod without iTunes or some other third party software?

Can you rip music off of the iPod onto your computer?

How many hours are you getting out of your battery?

Do you get FLAC or OGG support?

[Vizzys]

Lemurs is winning. lol @ teeny comments. Itunes blows, drm blows.

[Van Cruncheon]

Can you hook your iPod up to more than one computer?

Can you use the iPod without iTunes or some other third party software?

Can you rip music off of the iPod onto your computer?

How many hours are you getting out of your battery?

Do you get FLAC or OGG support?

Yes; sorta but why would you, especially if you own a Mac; no idea but why would I want to; 40 hours on my nano, 30 on my video, do you spend more than 40 hours awake and listening to music; who the fuck cares, you can't tell the difference between audio formats in any practical way you dumb beezy

[bagofeyes]

Why would you put FLAC on a portable music player?

[omg_lemurs]

Can you hook your iPod up to more than one computer?

Can you use the iPod without iTunes or some other third party software?

Can you rip music off of the iPod onto your computer?

How many hours are you getting out of your battery?

Do you get FLAC or OGG support?

Yes; sorta but why would you, especially if you own a Mac; no idea but why would I want to; 40 hours on my nano, 30 on my video, do you spend more than 40 hours awake and listening to music; who the fuck cares, you can't tell the difference between audio formats in any practical way you dumb beezy

Bullshit. 30 hours? 20 hours is the maximum the company itself advertises and trust me, they aren't going to advertise the low end. Those tests are performed under the most insane perfect conditions ever. You'd have to try very hard to get what the Apple claims is the battery life, and there's nothing you could do to get a 10 hour improvement. If you could Apple would say 30 hours instead of twenty.

Why would you want to? Because iTunes is a bloated piece of resource hogging shit? Who cares? Maybe so you can move your library of music from one computer to another? I just know that I did this kind of stuff a lot with my X5. Putting assignments and whatnot onto my X5 and hooking it up to a computer at school to work on and vice versa. You can tell plenty of difference between the audio formats you stupid git, if you use headphones that aren't the crappy ones packed in with the player. Which cost $30 on the aftermarket BTW if I recall correctly.

Clearly our tastes differ simply because you have lower standards. You don't care about features that I care about and don't mind the extremely limited nature of the iPod. That's fine you get what you like, just get the fuck off my thread with that shit. I said I don't want an iPod and you're not going to convince me otherwise.

[bagofeyes]

So much rage

[Van Cruncheon]

i spend about 4 hours a day at work listening to my nano. it goes well over a week -- and sometimes up to two -- before i hafta charge it. plus JESUS FUCK you're an invalid just plug the fucker into yer USB port and charge it while you listen. sorry my real world estimate conflicted with your gaf-esque list of anti-ipod talking points. fortunately, i'm never 8 hours away from a computer or a space of time where i can charge it.

second, buy a decent PC or a Mac. don't be a useless poor. sorry that the 4-5% resources used by iTunes on yer 700 mHz P3 eats into the software rendering needed by Counterstrike; maybe yer dad shoulda dummied up another kid on the welfare application and bought an eMachines box with an actual GPU.

third, you can DL yer iTunes music library on up to 5 machines OH TEH NO ONLY 5. i have my library on my work machine, my Mac, my main PC, and my laptop. syncing up is a menu item away. you suck at iTunes.

fourth, i have $200 sony xbr studio monitors. you listen to the fucking beatles, which even a high khz sample rate can't make into quality. ogg is for open source foolios, like the gaf mods. are you like the gaf mods? no, you're less than the gaf mods, because you aren't even good at codec geekery.

buy an iPod and upgrade to civilization.

[Vizzys]

lolz pentium 3

those were horrible days

[omg_lemurs]

i spend about 4 hours a day at work listening to my nano. it goes well over a week -- and sometimes up to two -- before i hafta charge it. plus JESUS FUCK you're an invalid just plug the fucker into yer USB port and charge it while you listen. sorry my real world estimate conflicted with your gaf-esque list of anti-ipod talking points. fortunately, i'm never 8 hours away from a computer or a space of time where i can charge it.

second, buy a decent PC or a Mac. don't be a useless poor. sorry that the 4-5% resources used by iTunes on yer 700 mHz P3 eats into the software rendering needed by Counterstrike; maybe yer dad shoulda dummied up another kid on the welfare application and bought an eMachines box with an actual GPU.

third, you can DL yer iTunes music library on up to 5 machines OH TEH NO ONLY 5. i have my library on my work machine, my Mac, my main PC, and my laptop. syncing up is a menu item away. you suck at iTunes.

fourth, i have $200 sony xbr studio monitors. you listen to the fucking beatles, which even a high khz sample rate can't make into quality. ogg is for open source foolios, like the gaf mods. are you like the gaf mods? no, you're less than the gaf mods, because you aren't even good at codec geekery.

buy an iPod and upgrade to civilization.

You don't know what I listen to. Yes. I listen to the Beatles, but that's not all I listen to fucknut. So stop right there.

And I use $300 Shure E4 IEMs. Your point?

My computer is fine. Just because my computer CAN handle the program doesn't mean that I want it to. Could you be suckling from the Apple cock any harder Drinky? iTunes is a resource hog, you might be fine with that but I'm not. I wouldn't download off of iTunes anyway. I'm not going to pay money for lossy DRM infected MP3s.

USB charging takes much longer and is much more inconvenient for my purposes.

[Saint Cornelius]

Lemurs, I don't even know why I bother wasting my time on your fishie floop oog ass; go ahead and buy the awesome mp3 player that isn't an iPod, what the fuck do I care?

[omg_lemurs]

Yes yes, good. Now move along. Play in the street or something.

[Van Cruncheon]

if she bought an MP3 (or OGG, or FLAC, or whatever format is cool with the terminally -- pun intended -- uncool these days) player that just worked, she'd have nothing to do except lay there and listen to her catheters drip with the only marginally less appealing sound of john lennon and his monkey sidekicks droning fuckwit melodies as accompaniment

buy the MP3 equivalent of the GP32 and she gets to BITCH ONLINE AS EXTRA BONUS PLUS COMBO for us all!

[Saint Cornelius]

So how come your money isn't being spent on, like, pills and tubes to replace and herbal remedies? How can you afford these dope DAPs and headphones and whatever else you claim to have? Is this some nippon parents shit that my cracker ass that works for a living can't ever hope to understand?

And before you cry about the way this horrible ginger monster fat fucking taco is talking to you, understand this: I don't like you because you talk AT people. You don't give a shit what anyone has to say, you just want fucking attention. Go make a deadjournal, you snively little tween

[Van Cruncheon]

I don't like you because you talk AT people. You don't give a shit what anyone has to say, you just want fucking attention. Go make a deadjournal, you snively little tween

corny tells it all

[omg_lemurs]

That's a pretty dark place for you to go Drinky, for something so trivial. I'm hurt.

Saint Cornelius... if you don't care why do you keep posting in this thread? Seriously. Nobody likes you. I don't want to come off as a bitch but really, you should consider suicide. I remember how they ran you off of Opa-Ages for being the titanic taco you are.

I talk AT people?

What a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. I wish you were here right now so I could put my hand on your face and push you backward. Symbolically representing every girl and social circle that has ever rejected you.

[Madrun Badrun]

Whats going on in here? 

[Vizzys]

THIS THREAD JUST GOT AWESOME

[Van Cruncheon]

darker than suggesting suicide? yer the female olimario, minus the moderate talent in photography!

[Saint Cornelius]

Symbolically representing every girl and social circle that has ever rejected you.

Wondergook powers, activate! In the form of a fish!!

 

[omg_lemurs]

darker than suggesting suicide? yer the female olimario, minus the moderate talent in photography!

I never suggested you commit suicide. I will now, but I didn't before. I'm shocked. I didn't expect this from you of all people Drinky. This really deviates from your pattern of banal unfunny uninteresting posts.

I'd say you went to the dark place first, and I demand an explanation. Not that I really care... I just want to challenge myself to see if I can stay awake through the entire post. I've already hit some kind of record and I want to keep it going.

[Saint Cornelius]

uh, you suggested suicide to me, which is the point he's trying to make. i think? i don't know, i'm talking at him too!

[Van Cruncheon]

what what

anyway, buy a fuckin' ipod you pretentious flip

[bagofeyes]

Shit you're an annoying twat lemurs. Go study for your fucking algebra test or something.

[omg_lemurs]

Symbolically representing every girl and social circle that has ever rejected you.

Wondergook powers, activate! In the form of a fish!!

 

Has anyone ever told you that you're really funny? Because I have big lips right? What else? My eyes are far apart?

Sorry I'm just trying to get the joke you just made. It went over my head at first but I think I get it now. You're comparing me to a fish because of my physical appearance. Is that correct? I usually pride myself in my ability to get a joke but this really confused me at first. I guess that's usually the trend with new and groundbreaking comedy. Have you ever heard of Lenny Bruce? You should check him out. His unique form of observational humor that I find similar to yours. If you want to check him out I'd suggest starting with The Law, Language, and Lenny Bruce and The Lenny Bruce Originals Vol. 2.

Another similarity between him and you is that people really didn't "get" him in his time. He got banned from performing at a lot of night clubs and blacklisted in a few cities. He was arrested a few times for obscenity and some think this led to his eventual death from a heroin overdose. He wasn't able to practice his craft because the general public hadn't caught up yet. Turns out he was one of the most influential humorists/comedians whose ever lived. They made a movie about his life called Lenny starring Dustin Hoffman. I'd check that out too if I were you. There's a valuable lesson to be learned from his life. Even though people might not get you at first... stick it out and time will tell. If that joke is any indication you're a really funny guy. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

Good luck man.

[Saint Cornelius]

yawn

pretentious? really? i'm like twice yer age, ya cunt

yes, i'm making fun of you based on your appearance. go ahead and check some of the things you've said about me before you put on the shocked kabuki - or should i say, bukkake - mask on.

and you suck at the gee-tar. cunt.

[Van Cruncheon]

in before comparisons to ignatius c. reilly, and various references to The Only Book Lemurs Has Read Above Her Grade Level. (god i hope she never picks up atlus shrugged.)

[omg_lemurs]

I have a few book suggestions for you so that you can start honing and harnessing your natural talent.

Creating Your Monolog:
http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Your-Monologue-Glenn-Alterman/dp/1581150385

And for your eventual movie and sitcom deal:

The Writer's Guide to Writing Your Screenplay: How to Write Great Screenplays for Movies and Television
http://www.amazon.com/Writers-Guide-Writing-Your-Screenplay/dp/0871161915/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5686703-8474436?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1172898214&sr=1-1

[Madrun Badrun]

Lemurs if I join your side of the fight - because it's rather looking like you need some allies here - will you PM hot pics?