EB Is(Or Should Be) Above Biases Unlike GAF So Here It Goes

[Cheebs]

At gaf this would be everyone picking the one they like best so it's useless. Curious what the elite of the 'bore honestly think.

[The Sceneman]

Its too early to tell IMO

[Cheebs]

thats the fun of it. Go with your gut.

[brawndolicious]

Wii because EVERYBODY wants one.  I don't get it AT ALL.  None of my friends were interested in the last generation until a bunch of decent games came out by 2003 but everybody wants a wii for some reason.  Maybe they just want something on their entertainment center that has fucking awesome plastic?  I don't know.  It will win though.  It's the NEW thing in terms of how to fuck a decent console sideways up the ass (360) and how to just get people interested in whatever the fuck business you have.  FFS, it's ipod with less value.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I voted Wii.

I wish it would be PS3 but Sony's screwed that pooch. 

[The Fake Shemp]

Wii is unstoppable.

[Himu]

I have to say that, world wide, I don't think 360 will be the champ, but I do feel that it will have the most support. From now until Fall, the only notable releases for Wii are Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy, and Fire Emblem (and that's not even popular in terms of sales outside of Japan).

360, however, will hold a lot of influence. It's got the niche games that appeal to gamers like me (Earth Defense Force, Culdcept, Viva Pinata;etc.) while still maintaining a wide variety of main appeal games to casuals (Madden, GTA, Halo). I think that 360, like ps2, will be quite popular with gamers as a whole, and will continue to hold a good amount of titles, making it about even with Wii on the world wide spectrum, if not slightly below it.

The thing about Wii is that, how do we know if the masses won't get bored with Wii? I may be the only thinking this, but I think that after this year, people will get bored with Wii and it won't grow as much due to lack of games, much like the Gamecube.

I may be underestimating the main masses in this gamble, but I think that the GAMERS around the world will be able to keep 360 afloat just as much as non gamers will keep Wii afloat.

[Himu]

I feel that whoever manages to win this year, will be the king. After that, audiences will be so grounded that I don't think there will be turning back. Given 360's amazing catalogue of upcoming games, I think the choice is obvious

[Cheebs]

360 will do great but it has no hold on europe or japan, no chance it will be #1. Wii has a lock on Japan and looks like USA as well.

[Himu]

I thought it was doing pretty good in Europe? 

As for Japan, fuck Japan. The original Xbox proved that a console does not need to be successful in Japan to be quality hardware.

[Cheebs]

I thought it was doing pretty good in Europe? 

pretty good but not a chance it will outdo the Wii there. PS3 might outdo it as well despite it falling apart in America and Japan, there is more sony loyalty there than anywhere else.

360 will do good but it won't have a hold on any of the markets(note its my favorite of the 3 though). My "in-depth" guess:

North America:
1. Wii
2. 360
3. PS3

Japan:
1. Wii
2. PS3
3. 360

Europe:
I dunno, depends on sony loyality
1/2. PS3/Wii
3. 360

[Himu]

I thought it was doing pretty good in Europe? 

pretty good but not a chance it will outdo the Wii there. PS3 might outdo it as well despite it falling apart in America and Japan, there is more sony loyalty there than anywhere else.

I think you're under estimating Europe, despite how many brainless Sony drones there are there. Europe may be full of sony fegs, but they also recognize quality games when they see it. DS proves this. They don't give a shit about psp, but love DS. I think that 360's games will make Europe see that there's more to games than Sony. After all, Europe is ALSO quite possibly the most HARDCORE place for gamers because for the entire continent's gaming history, they have been shafted time and time again, importing is nothing to them. I think with that kind of mindset, they'd be wise enough to see that 360 is better value than ps3.

[The Fake Shemp]

Europe rarely makes or breaks the market, and usually just follows Western trends.  I doubt it'll be any different.  I suspect Cheebs' evaluation is right.

[The Sceneman]

It'll be interesting to see how loyal Sony fans are in Europe now, given the fact that Sony has pissed all over them.

[Mupepe]

PS3.  I still hear a bunch of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows saying they want it.  It will pick up steam IMO.  I wish it was the 360 though, but I see them coming in last.

[Himu]

PS3.  I still hear a bunch of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows saying they want it.  It will pick up steam IMO.  I wish it was the 360 though, but I see them coming in last.

What? I bet you by the end of this year, those people who said that they want a ps3 will be wishing they had a 360.

[Cheebs]

PS3.  I still hear a bunch of distinguished mentally-challenged fellows saying they want it.  It will pick up steam IMO.  I wish it was the 360 though, but I see them coming in last.

You saw the feb numbers...right? The thing is tanking hard right now. Even GBA and PSP outsell it.

[Himu]

600 dollars is just too much for a gaming machine. No matter the brand name.

[TakingBackSunday]

Fuck I voted 360 without even thinking about Japan.  Wii then.

[G The Resurrected]

My grandparents bought a Wii, 70 year old people buying a wii to play on there own. No i'm not allowed to play with it. But damn them I dont even have one.

[bork]

I see the PS3 being on top at the end, just like what happened with the PS2 last gen.  It's going to pick up steam and end up dominating everthing, but not as much as the PS2 did.  Microsoft or Nintendo will be close behind.

[Flannel Boy]

Wii, even though it's overpriced and underpowered and has the worst library this side of small town Arkansas.

[Cheebs]

I see the PS3 being on top at the end, just like what happened with the PS2 last gen.  It's going to pick up steam and end up dominating everthing, but not as much as the PS2 did.  Microsoft or Nintendo will be close behind.

PS2 was NEVER struggling like PS3 is though. PS2 never once in any month sold as low as PS3 has last month.

[Prost]

I think they'll all stay alive.  PS3 had a shit run yeah, but people will eventually get them if they had a PS2.. and they want the only PS exclusive games.

Wii will stay alive because there's so many trademark characters that people won't want to see go

Xbox will stay alive because it's fuckin microsoft.

[Cheebs]

Wii will stay alive because there's so many trademark characters that people won't want to see go

"non-games" seem to be the key reason wii is succeeding right now though, not mario/zelda/etc

[BlueTsunami]

Wii

Visuals be damned the general gaming community wants a price point that can be attained within one paycheck and still have money to pay bills and grocery. The Xbox360 takes a bit of saving and looking at your finances a bit...PS3 more so.

Wii>360>PS3 is how I see things panning out over time (as far as sales).

[Shuri]

I think the wii will have the lowest software attach ratio ever. Now watch.

[Cheebs]

I think the wii will have the lowest software attach ratio ever. Now watch.

isn't its attach ratio surprisingly high?

[Bloodwake]

I like Sony, but they aren't going to win.

[Phoenix Dark]

360 is the superior console in terms of software. I don't think the Wii or PS3 come close to offering the same quality of awesome games. Stuff like Gears of War/Lost Planet/GRAW/etc are out and amazing, then there's so much stuff on the way this year. Halo 3, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Too Human...damn. And next year the main game I want - RE5 - will come out. Sure it'll be on the PS3 too, but it'll be much cheaper to get it on the 360.

Outside of Mario Galaxy there is nothing coming up on the Wii that interests me. SSBB will be cool, but I didn't even play SSBM like crazy. I've been waiting to see the RE:Wii game but there's no news on it. I don't expect much third party stuff, meaning we'll get Wiimote revisions of stuff like Mario Kart/Pikmin/etc. It'll get my inner fanboy excited but not enough to go crazy.

The PS3 has some stuff that impresses me like WarHawk, but overall the lineup is weak. I don't care about Ratchet & Clank. I don't care about DMC4. I don't care about SOCOM. I have no affiliation with Sony, and have never owned any of their consoles.

[The Sceneman]

360 is the superior console in terms of software. I don't think the Wii or PS3 come close to offering the same quality of awesome games. Stuff like Gears of War/Lost Planet/GRAW/etc are out and amazing, then there's so much stuff on the way this year. Halo 3, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Too Human...damn. And next year the main game I want - RE5 - will come out. Sure it'll be on the PS3 too, but it'll be much cheaper to get it on the 360.

I am so buying a 360 and HDtv really damn soon

[Cheebs]

360 is the superior console in terms of software. I don't think the Wii or PS3 come close to offering the same quality of awesome games. Stuff like Gears of War/Lost Planet/GRAW/etc are out and amazing, then there's so much stuff on the way this year. Halo 3, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Too Human...damn. And next year the main game I want - RE5 - will come out. Sure it'll be on the PS3 too, but it'll be much cheaper to get it on the 360.

Outside of Mario Galaxy there is nothing coming up on the Wii that interests me. SSBB will be cool, but I didn't even play SSBM like crazy. I've been waiting to see the RE:Wii game but there's no news on it. I don't expect much third party stuff, meaning we'll get Wiimote revisions of stuff like Mario Kart/Pikmin/etc. It'll get my inner fanboy excited but not enough to go crazy.

The PS3 has some stuff that impresses me like WarHawk, but overall the lineup is weak. I don't care about Ratchet & Clank. I don't care about DMC4. I don't care about SOCOM. I have no affiliation with Sony, and have never owned any of their consoles.

[Itch]

Why does it matter?

Ah, fuck it, it will probably be the Wii because it's the only one I ever hear people even talking about. Word of mouth is more important than the objective quality of the software library because it will win over a lot of casuals, the most important deciding factor in console sales. Unless PS3 or Xbox360 have software that can create the kind of phenomena created by a game like Grand Theft Auto 3, the Wii's current popularity among gamers will probably be enough to carry it into first place in the coming years.

[ToxicAdam]

I'm out of touch with what the average 20 yr old in college likes, but I still feel that the PS3 will start really moving later in the generation. This is assuming that Blue Ray becomes the next DVD .. which I'm not completely sold on yet.


I think this gen will be alot like the Genesis/SNES gen. Where one company has early dominance and the other begins to land some huge games towards the end of it and the sales follow.

I think the Wii is still a tough call because Nintendo always performs well early. I really don't see any software coming down the pipe that could justify hardcore / casual gamers into buying one (ala GTA3 and Halo did last gen). That's what the Wii needs .. a surefire, breakout killer app to push it into serious contention.

The one amazing thing this far, is the unprecedented buying power of the 360 fanbase. They push even the average game into +750k sales. As a dev, you can't ignore that, and they might have the largest library of games when it is all said and done.

[Ichirou]

The Wii's going to win this round.  I personally have no preference so far in this generation, and probably won't buy a new console for the next three years or so.  Right now I have a DS Lite, a PSP, and a PS2 with a huge backlog of games, so that's going to keep me busy for a long time.

But yeah, the Wii's going to win it.  Not because of any particular game or anything, but just because it's somehow managed to accrue iPod-like buzz.

[Cheebs]

I think the Wii is still a tough call because Nintendo always performs well early.

GCN fell like a rock in its first jan/feb

[Phoenix Dark]

Wii fill fall sooner or later, in the US.