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Himu

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Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« on: March 28, 2007, 01:46:37 AM »
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Following months of speculation, Microsoft has officially unveiled a new version of the Xbox 360. Called the Xbox 360 Elite (pictured), the console will go on sale in North America April 29, with European and Japanese launches later in the year. In the US, the console will retail for $479.

As previously hinted at on many forums and blogs, the new console will feature a variety of different features than the traditional Xbox 360. It will indeed feature a 120GB hard drive to better accommodate game downloads from Xbox Live Arcade and video content from Xbox Live Marketplace. The news coincides with the announcement of a new batch of television and movie partners who will offer content on the service.

The Xbox 360 Elite has a "premium black finish" which matches the wireless controller it comes with. (Controllers and rechargeable battery kits with the same hue will be sold separately.) The console will also sport a matching black wired headset and, as widely rumored, an HDMI output port. The console will come bundled with an HDMI cable as well as a component video cable.

One thing the console will not come with is a data transfer cable, as had been rumored. However, a standalone, $179 120GB drive for the console will be released alongside the Xbox 360 Elite bundled with a data-transfer cable. The cable will allow for the transfer of all Marketplace downloads and game saves from an existing 360 hard drive to the new hard drive.

According to Albert Penello, Microsoft's director of global platform marketing, the old hard drive will be blanked following the data transfer and can then be attached to any other 360. "The standalone drive is the main solution we're suggesting to existing Xbox 360 owners," he told GameSpot.

So what about HDMI-craving HDTV owners who want to get an Xbox 360 Elite and transfer their current XBLM content to it? In one word: wait. Penello said that Microsoft is "working on a solution" for transferring data from current 360s to Elites, but would not elaborate.

Hardware-wise, Penello said the Xbox 360 Elite has the same disc drive and processors as "current models." He also confirmed it would not have an internal HD-DVD drive, as some had suspected. "We don't want to segment the user base," he told GameSpot. He also confirmed that the external Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive would not be available in the Elite's black finish for the foreseeable future.

Another thing the new console won't have is Internet Protocol TV functionality, which Microsoft announced it was bringing to the 360 platform at the Consumer Electronics Show in January. "[IPTV] Trials will start this summer," said Penello, who didn't have a start date for the service.

As for the fate of the current hard drive-less $299 Core Xbox 360 and 360-equipped Pro Xbox 360 models, Pennello said they would continue to be offered. He also confirmed the new model will be a permanent addition to the 360 product line, and not a limited edition.

The fact the Elite is only $20 less than the 20GB PlayStation 3 and does not have next-generation video format playback did not go unnoticed by Sony. “We think every PlayStation 3 owner should have an 'elite' experience, which is why we include an internal hard drive and HDMI output in every PS3 we sell, along with the 50 GB of storage capacity on a high definition Blu-ray disc," said Peter Dille, Sony Computer Entertainment's senior vice president of marketing. Sony also issued a series of talking points asserting that the release of the 360 Elite " further validates the PS3 business model, which [Microsoft] criticized at launch."

For more details on the Xbox 360 Elite, check out GameSpot Hardware's complete examination of the console.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6168182.html

It's PERMANENT and not Limited Release.
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2007, 01:52:26 AM »
Im getting it, I WANT MUH HDMI....but ill have to wait cause im big on XBLA :(
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BlueTsunami

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2007, 06:33:23 AM »
Thats one expensive HDD. Wooooh
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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2007, 09:12:49 AM »
If you have a 720p TV (Pioneer 42" plasma), is HDMI really that much of a step up from component? My Premium 360 looks pretty damn nice on it, is it even worth upgrading?
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2007, 09:33:19 AM »
I cant notice the difference on my tv at 720p but I just like how neat the cable situation is with HDMI. It'd be nice not to have a rats nest behind my entertainment center.
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ferrarimanf355

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2007, 11:43:20 AM »
I'll wait until the 65nm chips are included, thanks.  :-\
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Vizzys

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2007, 01:41:10 PM »
I see no point for its existance.

I have yet to fill my 20gb (10gb) hdd yet and dont plan to.

I believe the HDMI cable can be used on any old system not just this new one.
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Himu

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2007, 01:51:14 PM »
How much space do xb360 games usually take up
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2007, 01:54:11 PM »
Viz: ooh, I hope so. My 360 is still running great after well over 600+ hours of use.
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Vizzys

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2007, 01:57:01 PM »
How much space do xb360 games usually take up
save files dont take much of anything.

demos, videos, xbla games and FF11 take up the most space. I still need to delete ff11 which will clear up 4-5gigs.
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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2007, 09:28:45 PM »
I hate the fact that I was literally inserting new 400gb hard drives every 15-20 seconds at my last job, because when I see 120GB being labelled as a big deal I'm just like pssh... like that's anything?

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MrAngryFace

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2007, 12:26:23 PM »
Considering an HD EPISODE of a tv show is a gig alone its not that great a deal :(
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Prost

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2007, 12:43:56 PM »
im sorry if anyone else disagrees but after reading this crap i think the elite is the most useless fucking thing ever... it could be 100 bucks and i wouldnt buy it, whats the fuckin point?
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Himu

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2007, 12:47:33 PM »
So is it true you can just get hdmi cables and it'll work on a normal 360
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2007, 03:44:06 PM »
So is it true you can just get hdmi cables and it'll work on a normal 360
normal 360? no.  on an elite 360, yes.

Eh, I'll probably get it.  My old 360 died, i sent it in for repair and sold it to a friend along with my ps3.  The 80 bucks is definitely worth it for a black version, hdmi and a bigger harddrive.  my harddrive was totally full on my last one. 

However, I don't see the point at all if you already own a 360.

G The Resurrected

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2007, 07:10:42 PM »
I'm gonna wait till the 65nm chips are out. Around September i'll buy another 360 and if i'm lucky a PS Tripple.

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2007, 07:16:43 PM »
I'd LIKE to get a good monitor/HDTV (I don't need anything huge) and a Wii/360/PSP (for all types of emulation on the go) by the end of this year. Think I can get all of that for $2000 or less?

Edit: Shit, I forgot that I need a new computer too. I wanna play C&C3. :(
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G The Resurrected

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2007, 07:21:35 PM »
Uh depends man, psp's will go down in price soon. Wii's are fucking hard to find still and its fucking april already. And 360's are still 400-480 bucks. This leaves you with about 1grand to spend on a TV. Costco sells some nice Vizio's but if your really anal you'll listen to everyone that says they are shit. If you calibrate a Vizio right they look pretty damn good. Deffinatly not 2000 dollar screen good but good enough for the 1000 bucks you spend on it.

a Sony XBR will run you around 2 grand and those are pretty much ace right now. And its 1080p

Beezy

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2007, 07:35:11 PM »
I'd be fine with 32"-36". How much those usually go for?

I mainly want it for gaming and probably also to use as a computer monitor. I don't care about TV channels and DVDs (or the other shitty formats) too much.

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2007, 07:38:52 PM »
32-42's cost anywhere between 700 at the low end to 1600 on the high end. The low end is gonna only get you 720p you wanna future proof it with HDMI and 1080p. Just look around you might find some good deals.

Himu

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 07:41:09 PM »
Now that I've seen GTAIV, my number one reason to go next gen has been created. I will be getting a 360 Elite and an hdtv in the coming months. I will put the hdtv on credit at best buy and pay it all off within a few months. GTA IV :bow :bow :bow
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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 07:45:33 PM »
Typical GTA lovin' distinguished black fellow.

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2007, 08:20:41 PM »
I'd LIKE to get a good monitor/HDTV (I don't need anything huge) and a Wii/360/PSP (for all types of emulation on the go) by the end of this year. Think I can get all of that for $2000 or less?

Edit: Shit, I forgot that I need a new computer too. I wanna play C&C3. :(
Yes.  Easily.

I got a 50 inch Samsung DLP on special at Sam's for 1000 dollars almost a year ago.  It's only 720p, but fuck it was gorgeous.

Beezy

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Re: Why the FUCK is MS bullshitting us now?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 08:39:07 PM »
Hopefully HDTV prices drop even more by this summer.

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2007, 09:11:33 PM »
Hopefully HDTV prices drop even more by this summer.
They will.  But just like computer equipment, you just won't be able to get the new shit.  There are some REALLY cheap, good HDTV's if you're not into all the new bells and whistles.