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Saint Cornelius

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2007, 04:48:10 PM »
I still haven't bothered checking it out since you told me it sucks.


Oh god it does, but I'm not a fan of crunk. If you like that shit, then you'd probably flip.
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Himu

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2007, 04:48:48 PM »
I hate crunk. It's not my thing at all.
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2007, 04:55:55 PM »
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2007, 05:02:29 PM »
I dunno, I cant find anything to relate to in hip hop.
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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2007, 05:05:58 PM »
I dunno, I cant find anything to relate to in hip hop.

You be on dat kryptonite tho
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Himu

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2007, 05:14:56 PM »
I don't see why it's really necessary to relate to anything when dealing with entertainment or art. I mean, rock for example. I don't relate to a lot of the stuff they're singing about, and hell, often times I don't know what they're singing about at all, but I like it anyways.
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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2007, 05:16:23 PM »
I dunno, I cant find anything to relate to in hip hop.


Chorus: Let me tell you about the Proto Culture
If you don't know the culture, here's the whole structure
We've had enough of the lackluster-trust us
We get the kind of games you can't rent at Blockbuster
KU: Game related, raise it bit by bit
Yo D, link up the cable we'll go hit for hit
Phantasma plasma particle beam means I have ya
on the run-the rendered effects hot like magnas

Del: I play games by Capcom with a power glove strapped on O
n any platform, I don't spend my dough on Phat Farm
Video games, I got many to play
Before my life expires; fufill my desires

KU: Mastering your hardest boss
Shattering all stars across
Ain't hard to cross the finish line
Floatin' on Daytona
Wex, Gex or Kloana, we get ‘em all at cost
RPG, Platform we transform like Macross

Del: Rival schools, Batsu
Purchase you ought to
It came with one free CD, it's like I bought two
I hope they make part II for Dreamcast
‘Cause games I've seen in mags, you won't believe they have!

KU: Getting callouses turning over asteroids
Graviton bombs destroyed
Getting moms annoyed
Now I'm hacking Nightmare Creatures
Their features splattered across the screen
It gets more clean each year

Del: I remember my homie Ed Coats had the most
A Colecovision-every week I'd visit
Playing Donkey Kong Jr., Venture, Rock and Rope
Games I thought was dope
While my moms was watching soaps

KU: I'm on the next level
I got a double barrel shotgun in the Doomworld
Waiting on the next devil
Armor's low-check the arsenal
Rupture the main conductor playin Disruptor

Del: I remember Ninja Gaiden
Finished finally
With Ramone wouldn't answer the phone
This was before getting blown
I own the first Nintendo Power
With the maps of Zelda Help me conquer in an hour

Chorus: Let me tell you about the Proto Culture
If you don't know the culture, here's the whole structure
We've had enough of the lackluster-trust us
We get the kind of games you can't rent at Blockbuster
(2X)

Del: Hey KU you know my SEGA collection is massive
Got all the past hits and classics
Herzog Zwei now Panzer Zwei
Originality that made me a fan today

KU: It's Pandemonium-it's like Toys R Us
Flippin the next Saturn game brings out the boys in us
It's poisonous
Taking out the boys in blue in Grand Theft Auto,
Snatch a Rolls Royce to use

Del: Yeah, I'll admit Playstation improved
Come visit Feudal Japan with me and Tenchu
Bushido Blade 2 with sword play so accurate
Mega Man Legends but I had to buy a map for it.

KU: I fence Hyo to get a Neo-Geo
For Samurai 64 in full rendered splendor
Rival counter and enter my sword in his innards
My joint was being Leonardo wuppin' on Splinter

Del: I gotta get Xenogears-that's the type of game that relieves my fears
Get it from overseas to here
I gotta get Psychic Force
Authentic arcade that I can endorse
They got me liking imports

KU: I'll need to be at the next E3,
What's the next CD I need to see
Me and D signing checks
Let's float overseas, mingle with game companies
Giving tips to Capcom and Sega-you can't front on these

Del: To anyone who knew me better
Know I chose Saturn first Cause it's 2-D heaven
Bernie Stolar dropped the ball with the RAM cartridge
X-men Vs. Streetfighter could've expanded the market

KU: Marvel Vs. Capcom-beyond fathom
Tell the truth, Playstation ain't ready to have ‘em
Come on I'll bring the onslaught
Alpha and Omega
Khaos Unique brought to you by SEGA.

Chorus: Let me tell you about the Proto culture
If you don't know the culture, here's the whole structure
We've had enough of the lackluster-trust us
We get the kind of games you can't rent at Blockbuster
(2X)
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Himu

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #67 on: April 24, 2007, 05:18:12 PM »
:rofl :rofl
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Saint Cornelius

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #68 on: April 24, 2007, 05:19:38 PM »
And my favorite line from my man Thes One:

"I said "Thes, yo I'm feelin' all those old jazz loops
can you make me up a track, man I got a little loot"
he said "thanks but don't thank me, thank the forefathers
they deserve the credit, nowadays nobody bothers"
He paused, I said "true", he took a sip of his stew
and said "I'll dig you up a beat like Super Mario 2"

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MrAngryFace

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #69 on: April 24, 2007, 05:31:27 PM »
I dont like games that much! Its a hobby! Listening to game inspired music makes me groan.

Are there songs about drinking lots of scotch?
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Saint Cornelius

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #70 on: April 24, 2007, 05:36:33 PM »
I dont like games that much! Its a hobby! Listening to game inspired music makes me groan.

Are there songs about drinking lots of scotch?


It's actually a really good song! There's not any songs that I know that are SPECIFICALLY about drinking Scotch, but I'm sure MF DOOM has mentioned it quite a few times in his stream-of-consciousness raps.
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bluemax

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2007, 05:39:09 PM »
Del <3

I hope he really is working on a new Deltron album.
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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2007, 06:19:21 PM »
I dunno, I cant find anything to relate to in hip hop.

I don't think it's about relating so much as wish fulfillment.  Teen boys gravitating towards danger and status symbols and stuff.  Same principle for cowboy-centric country music.


Man, I was going to follow Saint C's post with Candyland by Soul Position, but Google can't find the lyrics and I'm not spending my time transcribing it for a post.

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2007, 06:25:57 PM »
Jay-Z is like the Anakin Skywalker of Hip-Hop. He was supposed to be the chosen one but now is the archetype rapper that most modern mainstream rappers follow now. Most rappers often start out trying to sound like Nas or Tupac but when they get signed they begin to become Jay-Z No. 1238739.

Also fuck the jazz loops and trying to bring it back to the mid-90's. I love that shit but man let go, you never going to recreate that era. Hip-Hop should move forward not only in lyrical content but music. What we need is an injection of youth not fucking mid-30 years going on like they are fucking teenagers. There needs to be a culling of Hip Hop artists. The problem is people like Jay-Z, Tupac have made it seem that you can be only one 'type' of rapper to achieve fame and recognition.

South, hyphy have all stagnated because all they are is great forgettable club music. Afrocentric Hip-Hop has stagnated because they repeat the same shit.

Yes most fans are stupid but that's because they only see Hip-Hop as only club and 'angry' music.




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MrAngryFace

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2007, 06:30:15 PM »
Mandark: I just wish for peace and quiet and a shotgun and a porch to sit on with my shotgun and a big barrel of booze and a rocking chair and a lawn to scare kids off of.

*ha ha this is a joke, not serious I am not actually threatening people with guns. I dont even own a gun and would never shoot someone unless they broke into my house with a gun but even then maybe I could just wrestle the gun with them and use reason to convince them to leave because I hate violence*

ECHELON IS LISTENING
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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #75 on: April 24, 2007, 06:34:06 PM »
There's a 50/50 chance you'd like Jolie Holland, I think.

MrAngryFace

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #76 on: April 24, 2007, 06:35:14 PM »
ill itunes preview a song tonight.
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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #77 on: April 24, 2007, 06:41:12 PM »
i'm still hooked on 90s and early '00-'01 independent hiphop.  i can't stand to listen to the newer shit.  i think hiphop died when the underground surfaced.  all the styles and trends got so over-commercialized that you couldn't distinguish underground from mainstream anymore.  even the rhyming sounded the same and a lot of mainstream artists were claiming they were from the "under" for street cred when all they were doing was biting styles.  i've always been anti-commercial hiphop so when some of my favorites like common sense, atban klann (aka black eyed peas), murs and even atomsphere became household names, i dropped them like bad habits.  the music never stays the same once it surfaces.  it's a shame, but i guess they gotta sell out sooner or later or face the reality of being broke the rest of their lives.
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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #78 on: April 24, 2007, 06:49:07 PM »
This was obtained (not by me) using the General Social Survey with a vocabulary test which is highly g-loaded.

Musical taste and Mean IQs--whites
Opera 108.2
Classical 108.2
New Age 107.5
Jazz 107.2
Showtunes 107.0
Blues 106.3
Big Band 105.2
Folk 104.6
Latin 103.3
Oldies 102.3
Contemporary Rock 101.1
Easy Listening 100.2
Reggae 99.7
Heavy Metal 98.5
Bluegrass 98.1
Country 97.1
Gospel 96.0
Rap 93.5
« Last Edit: April 24, 2007, 07:02:17 PM by Malek: King of Kings »

Beezy

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #79 on: April 24, 2007, 06:54:18 PM »
What category would your typical pop music fall under?

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #80 on: April 24, 2007, 06:58:06 PM »
What category would your typical pop music fall under?
Is pop even a musical genre? All it means is popular, so you can have pop music which is rock, rap, easy listening, etc.

Beezy

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #81 on: April 24, 2007, 07:00:04 PM »
Then shit like Britney Spears, Spice Girls, etc.

Himu

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #82 on: April 24, 2007, 07:13:48 PM »
What about Michael Jackson and Blondie?
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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #83 on: April 24, 2007, 07:18:48 PM »
What category would your typical pop music fall under?
dunno.

But it would probably rank right above rap on the IQ list because at least no pop fan is deluding himself into thinking that his crappy music is "art".

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #84 on: April 24, 2007, 07:49:07 PM »
This was obtained (not by me) using the General Social Survey with a vocabulary test which is highly g-loaded.

Musical taste and Mean IQs--whites
Opera 108.2
Classical 108.2
New Age 107.5
Jazz 107.2
Showtunes 107.0
Blues 106.3
Big Band 105.2
Folk 104.6
Latin 103.3
Oldies 102.3
Contemporary Rock 101.1
Easy Listening 100.2
Reggae 99.7
Heavy Metal 98.5
Bluegrass 98.1
Country 97.1
Gospel 96.0
Rap 93.5

Where's the inspirational music?
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #85 on: April 24, 2007, 07:53:49 PM »
Also Malek that isn't credible when you consider rap most rap fans are much younger than opera and classical music aficionados
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Saint Cornelius

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #86 on: April 24, 2007, 07:58:45 PM »
But it would probably rank right above rap on the IQ list because at least no pop fan is deluding himself into thinking that his crappy music is "art".



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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #87 on: April 24, 2007, 08:02:38 PM »
But it would probably rank right above rap on the IQ list because at least no pop fan is deluding himself into thinking that his crappy music is "art".



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you didn't notice the "lol" in spoilers?  I'm a rap fan :btw if you haven't noticed me chime in in most rap threads.

Saint Cornelius

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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2007, 08:04:13 PM »
This was obtained (not by me) using the General Social Survey with a vocabulary test which is highly g-loaded.

Musical taste and Mean IQs--whites
Opera 108.2
Classical 108.2
New Age 107.5
Jazz 107.2
Showtunes 107.0
Blues 106.3
Big Band 105.2
Folk 104.6
Latin 103.3
Oldies 102.3
Contemporary Rock 101.1
Easy Listening 100.2
Reggae 99.7
Heavy Metal 98.5
Bluegrass 98.1
Country 97.1
Gospel 96.0
Rap 93.5


Harumph.

you didn't notice the "lol" in spoilers?  I'm a rap fan :btw if you haven't noticed me chime in in most rap threads.

Harumph x2.
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Re: Who killed Hip Hop?
« Reply #89 on: April 24, 2007, 10:34:41 PM »
Also Malek that isn't credible when you consider rap most rap fans are much younger than opera and classical music aficionados
The vast majority of respondents are over the age of 19 (97 or 98%). Most of those under 19 are over 15 (when age no longer factors in determining IQ scores).