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« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2007, 02:47:28 PM »
Last I heard it was in development hell and Steve Niles was holding out hope Raimi would do it when he stepped off of Spidey projects.  Cool news, if so.
It would be all over if he signed something, talks in hollywood often fall apart at the last minute. But if Sony is thinking it is far along enough to try to cozy up to Raimi to get SGI the effects for the project then it must be in depth.

A lot more? It made a good deal more than X2 and singer's own superman returns

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« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2007, 02:49:21 PM »
Raimi is all wrong for The Hobbit. Hell, I honestly would love to see him keep doing Spidey movies if the cast is still interested.

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« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2007, 02:53:22 PM »
Raimi is all wrong for The Hobbit. Hell, I honestly would love to see him keep doing Spidey movies if the cast is still interested.
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« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2007, 02:53:31 PM »
Uh, Cheebs, it made just $20 million more than X2.  And its budget was twice the size of X2 with more money dumped into marketing.  The film barely made its budget back in domestic earnings.

I don't know what you're on about.

It was a critical dud and it didn't nearly have the merchandising success that the license enjoyed around Singer's reign (like the dumb Wolverine video game and such).  It was a frontloaded pic that scored low and died out pretty quick.
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« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2007, 02:56:51 PM »
Uh, Cheebs, it made just $20 million more than X2.  And its budget was twice the size of X2 with more money dumped into marketing.  The film barely made its budget back in domestic earnings.

I don't know what you're on about.

It was a critical dud and it didn't nearly have the merchandising success that the license enjoyed around Singer's reign (like the dumb Wolverine video game and such).  It was a frontloaded pic that scored low and died out pretty quick.
It might help that I didn't really pay attention it after the initial buzz of its fantastic record breaking opening weekend.

Willco, whats the story with x-men anyway? It had a cliff hanger ending(after credits with xavier and before the credits with the magneto moving the chess piece) and yet Fox seems to want to put the franchise to bed.

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« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2007, 03:00:09 PM »
I heard that Ratner filmed that, so that was a Ratner thing.  Tim Rothman hates the X-Men franchise and it's pretty much dead at this point.  I don't think most of the cast wants to return at this rate.

The Last Stand barely made more than its predecessor.  It enjoyed a huge opening, but it had absolutely no legs whatsoever.  Nobody wants to take credit for its success either, which is a telling sign.
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« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2007, 03:08:09 PM »
It's absurd that x-men 3 cost 210 million. It was a short movie barley over 90 minutes and it didn't seem to have that much that stood out effects or set wise.

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« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2007, 03:10:59 PM »
I said it before, but the production schedule was so short and rushed that I have no doubt that almost every penny was spent on union overtime costs.  They have pretty crazy pay terms related to scheduling, so if they were working in what the union considers overtime (and I'm positive they were), a lot of crew members were paid out a lot of money.  Also, factor in the costs of replacing crew from Vaughan's initial group, all of whom were paid for the time spent on pre-production.

Poorly planned, poorly executed sequel.
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« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2007, 03:15:51 PM »
I put a lot of blame on the studio's bitterness over Singer doing Superman as well. Cyclops was killed just out of spite of him working with Singer on Returns. The actor wasn't even supposed to be in it at all due to this dumb petty reason and he had to apparently beg to get at least some screen time.

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« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2007, 03:41:55 PM »
Tim Rothman hates the X-Men franchise

With the way things are going with all the properties Fox has the rights to, you'd think Rothman hates Marvel.

The man is also apparently afraid of giants (Sentinels and Galactus), I wonder what happened to him as a small child...
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« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2007, 03:43:45 PM »
Tim Rothman hates the X-Men franchise

With the way things are going with all the properties Fox has the rights to, you'd think Rothman hates Marvel.

The man is also apparently afraid of giants (Sentinels and Galactus), I wonder what happened to him as a small child...

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« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2007, 03:45:02 PM »
I heard about his hatred of giant robots. Odd guy.

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« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2007, 03:45:18 PM »
The novelization for Fantastic Four 2 is doing the rounds on AICN.  It sounds awful.  I think a lot of people were really hoping Spider-Man 3 would be the hyped trainwreck of the summer, but I think that honor is going to go to Fantastic Four 2.
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« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2007, 03:46:12 PM »
The novelization for Fantastic Four 2 is doing the rounds on AICN.  It sounds awful.  I think a lot of people were really hoping Spider-Man 3 would be the hyped trainwreck of the summer, but I think that honor is going to go to Fantastic Four 2.
I skimmed the novel at borders this weekend(I am a spoiler whore), it was terrible but I expected as much.

The novelization of Superman Returns was evil, it cut out superbaby to keep it a secret.

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« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2007, 03:50:28 PM »
My friend just called me, with his review of Spider-Man 3.  I really trust his opinion more than anyone else, and he's done reviews for all of the geek film sites.

He says that despite the villains, that they managed to really resolve everything by the end and the climax is amazing.  He said there's a weird interruption by newscasters, which he thought was kind of "meh", but the climax is so off the wall - you won't care.  He says there's too many characters running around, like the "blonde chick" (he's referring to Gwen) and that Cromwell got no screen time.  He also said there's a musical number in there that I'll find hysterical, but he's not sure how it'll play with your average crowd.  Overall, he really, really liked it - one of the better popcorn flicks he's seen in the past two summers, but that it is not as good as Spider-Man 2.  Says this is like the original, where if you want to pick it apart, you can.
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« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2007, 06:45:58 PM »
Doing Spidey 3 and 4 back to back would have been the best route. Venom should have had a whole movie devoted to him instead of a (possible?) lead in.

The amount of money it took to make this movie, it seems like Spidey 3 is actually two movies in one :lol
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« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2007, 07:59:13 PM »
The novelization for Fantastic Four 2 is doing the rounds on AICN.  It sounds awful.  I think a lot of people were really hoping Spider-Man 3 would be the hyped trainwreck of the summer, but I think that honor is going to go to Fantastic Four 2.
I skimmed the novel at borders this weekend(I am a spoiler whore), it was terrible but I expected as much.

The novelization of Superman Returns was evil, it cut out superbaby to keep it a secret.

The Borders near Arborland?
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« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2007, 10:36:01 PM »
The novelization for Fantastic Four 2 is doing the rounds on AICN.  It sounds awful.  I think a lot of people were really hoping Spider-Man 3 would be the hyped trainwreck of the summer, but I think that honor is going to go to Fantastic Four 2.
I skimmed the novel at borders this weekend(I am a spoiler whore), it was terrible but I expected as much.

The novelization of Superman Returns was evil, it cut out superbaby to keep it a secret.

The Borders near Arborland?
Downtown Ann Arbor borders.

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« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2007, 10:36:39 PM »
The novelization for Fantastic Four 2 is doing the rounds on AICN.  It sounds awful.  I think a lot of people were really hoping Spider-Man 3 would be the hyped trainwreck of the summer, but I think that honor is going to go to Fantastic Four 2.
I skimmed the novel at borders this weekend(I am a spoiler whore), it was terrible but I expected as much.

The novelization of Superman Returns was evil, it cut out superbaby to keep it a secret.

The Borders near Arborland?
Downtown Ann Arbor borders.

Near Starbucks right?
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« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2007, 10:55:44 PM »
The novelization for Fantastic Four 2 is doing the rounds on AICN.  It sounds awful.  I think a lot of people were really hoping Spider-Man 3 would be the hyped trainwreck of the summer, but I think that honor is going to go to Fantastic Four 2.
I skimmed the novel at borders this weekend(I am a spoiler whore), it was terrible but I expected as much.

The novelization of Superman Returns was evil, it cut out superbaby to keep it a secret.

The Borders near Arborland?
Downtown Ann Arbor borders.

Near Starbucks right?
I believe there is one by it, its not arborland though, thats a different borders

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« Reply #80 on: April 25, 2007, 11:02:41 PM »
Oh ok. I just go to the Borders in Arborland. There's also a Barns and Noble that's on Washtenaw also
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« Reply #81 on: April 25, 2007, 11:13:59 PM »
Oh ok. I just go to the Borders in Arborland. There's also a Barns and Noble that's on Washtenaw also
I go there sometimes
why dont you go to downtown ann arbor? it's the best part of ann arbor

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« Reply #82 on: April 25, 2007, 11:18:34 PM »
Oh ok. I just go to the Borders in Arborland. There's also a Barns and Noble that's on Washtenaw also
I go there sometimes
why dont you go to downtown ann arbor? it's the best part of ann arbor

Haven't been down there since I was meeting with UM grad students from CRECH. A and a half ago or so
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« Reply #83 on: April 25, 2007, 11:24:26 PM »
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« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2007, 07:38:45 AM »
:rofl

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« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2007, 10:45:41 AM »
The novelization for Fantastic Four 2 is doing the rounds on AICN.  It sounds awful.  I think a lot of people were really hoping Spider-Man 3 would be the hyped trainwreck of the summer, but I think that honor is going to go to Fantastic Four 2.

Which is sad.

I hate when movies have AWESOME trailers and then they end up being mediocre. A great example of this is Resident Evil: Apocalypse. It's probably one of my favorite film trailers of all time.
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« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2007, 11:16:12 AM »
The novelization for Fantastic Four 2 is doing the rounds on AICN.  It sounds awful.  I think a lot of people were really hoping Spider-Man 3 would be the hyped trainwreck of the summer, but I think that honor is going to go to Fantastic Four 2.

Which is sad.

I hate when movies have AWESOME trailers and then they end up being mediocre. A great example of this is Resident Evil: Apocalypse. It's probably one of my favorite film trailers of all time.
fantastic four 2 had a bad trailer

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« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2007, 11:19:07 AM »
S-M3 has had bad trailers. Masterpiece confirmed?

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« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2007, 11:29:31 AM »
S-M3 has had bad trailers. Masterpiece confirmed?

Hopefully.

I've taken so much shit with my offline friends for not liking the trailers, but none of them are spectacular. The last one was good, but the trailer to S-M2 keeps entering my mind. You know, the one where Peter dives and knocks Mary Jane out of the way of a crashing car. That basically had me pumped for the second installment alone. The best part of it was that my expectations were fulfilled.

That is one reason I've always been uneasy about this film. The ridiculous rumors and the large amount of rumors didn't help either. I'm glad, however, that it's getting some good reviews, and after watching Spider-Man 2.1, I'm ready to see this third film hopefully wrap up the franchise (or at least Raimi's contribution to it)
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« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2007, 11:42:17 AM »
S-M2 has one of my all-time favorite trailers. The editing, the structure, and the music choices are just perfect. Ending with Harry pulling the mask off was a great tease. I was convinced it wasnt gonna be Pete under the mask. How wrong I was. The trailer (s, since they've released like 20 compared to S-M2's single teaser and trailer) for S-M3 are downright sloppy by comparison. Cant remember S-M1's trailer for the life of me, so it was probably pretty generic.

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« Reply #90 on: April 26, 2007, 12:04:10 PM »
S-M2 has one of my all-time favorite trailers. The editing, the structure, and the music choices are just perfect. Ending with Harry pulling the mask off was a great tease. I was convinced it wasnt gonna be Pete under the mask. How wrong I was. The trailer (s, since they've released like 20 compared to S-M2's single teaser and trailer) for S-M3 are downright sloppy by comparison. Cant remember S-M1's trailer for the life of me, so it was probably pretty generic.

Yeah, S-M1 had a pretty generic one, if I remember correctly.

Still, even with all of the crap S-M3 has thrown at us, the Spider-Man (and hopefully Batman Begins, it got off to a great start) franchises are great examples on how to do comic book movies,
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« Reply #91 on: April 26, 2007, 12:22:45 PM »
S-M2 has one of my all-time favorite trailers. The editing, the structure, and the music choices are just perfect. Ending with Harry pulling the mask off was a great tease. I was convinced it wasnt gonna be Pete under the mask. How wrong I was. The trailer (s, since they've released like 20 compared to S-M2's single teaser and trailer) for S-M3 are downright sloppy by comparison. Cant remember S-M1's trailer for the life of me, so it was probably pretty generic.

Yeah, S-M1 had a pretty generic one, if I remember correctly.

Still, even with all of the crap S-M3 has thrown at us, the Spider-Man (and hopefully Batman Begins, it got off to a great start) franchises are great examples on how to do comic book movies,
Batman will be fine. Nolan has been very consistent in his films.

And unlike most he had plans laid out for 2 and 3 in plot and bad guys since before Begins came out

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« Reply #92 on: April 26, 2007, 12:34:19 PM »
S-M2 has one of my all-time favorite trailers. The editing, the structure, and the music choices are just perfect. Ending with Harry pulling the mask off was a great tease. I was convinced it wasnt gonna be Pete under the mask. How wrong I was. The trailer (s, since they've released like 20 compared to S-M2's single teaser and trailer) for S-M3 are downright sloppy by comparison. Cant remember S-M1's trailer for the life of me, so it was probably pretty generic.

Yeah, S-M1 had a pretty generic one, if I remember correctly.

Still, even with all of the crap S-M3 has thrown at us, the Spider-Man (and hopefully Batman Begins, it got off to a great start) franchises are great examples on how to do comic book movies,
Batman will be fine. Nolan has been very consistent in his films.

And unlike most he had plans laid out for 2 and 3 in plot and bad guys since before Begins came out

Yes, I'm sure it will be, I just can't use it as an example yet because only one film is out.

I can't wait for the Dark Knight.
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« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2007, 12:43:43 PM »
The Spider-Man 1 teaser is an awesome trailer.
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« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2007, 12:45:52 PM »
The Spider-Man 1 teaser is an awesome trailer.

Then maybe I'm wrong.

Someone should link me to it.
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« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2007, 12:47:41 PM »
The original teaser with the World Trade Center was rather bad

The Spiderman 2 trailer is one of the best trailers I've seen
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« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2007, 12:48:24 PM »
[youtube=425,350]rMBlZIOzgJI[/youtube]

What the hell is bad about it, PD? 
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« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2007, 12:54:40 PM »
[youtube=425,350]rMBlZIOzgJI[/youtube]

What the hell is bad about it, PD? 

Luckily I realize you're joking.

The is so bad it looks like a commercial until the helicopter gets snagged. I seriously expected the Afflac duck to run across the floor or something. The music is bad, everything looks cheap and sounds phoned in. Overall it's like a teaser for a Die Hard TV series, coming soon to UPN!
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« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2007, 12:56:26 PM »
Dude, it's a fucking teaser trailer from a year before the movie came out.  It does what it does successfully, although it should've ended with the helicopter stuck in the web, faded right to "Next Summer" and not shown spider-man at all.  If they hadn't visually put Spider-Man in it, or mentioned him, it would've been the ultimate teaser.
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« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2007, 12:58:58 PM »
It was pretty subpar all around. I've seen better teasers
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« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2007, 01:00:48 PM »
It was pretty subpar all around. I've seen better teasers

Maybe.  As I said, it's not above criticism, but if it had ended with the helicopter stuck in the web, not shown Spidey, and cut right to NEXT SUMMER, it would've been awesome.

Anyway, your taste is absolute shit.
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« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2007, 01:10:21 PM »
You don't even like the Spidey movies so this is quite unconvincing.

Yes, the teaser showed you all you "needed" to see, but that doesn't automatically make it a good teaser. In fact it's one of the worst ones I've ever seen. How many blockbuster movies get such cheap, thrown together teasers?

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This is one of the best teasers I've ever seen - thoughts on the final movie aside

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Shows you all you need to know despite some meh production.

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« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2007, 01:15:42 PM »
Star Wars prequels had oddly good trailers

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« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2007, 01:17:12 PM »
I thought the teaser for Phantom Menace was amazing
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« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2007, 01:18:13 PM »
Yes, PD, I don't even like the Spider-Man movies, but notice I will give them credit when they do a good trailer.  I can like a trailer and not like a movie, you know.
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« Reply #105 on: April 26, 2007, 01:19:16 PM »
Yes, PD, I don't even like the Spider-Man movies, but notice I will give them credit when they do a good trailer.  I can like a trailer and not like a movie, you know.

What about the Superman Returns teaser? :p


This will always be the best Star Wars trailer
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« Reply #106 on: April 26, 2007, 01:23:53 PM »
The SR teaser was pretty good.
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« Reply #107 on: April 26, 2007, 01:25:44 PM »
The SR teaser was pretty good.
Well it was entirely marlon brando with john williams background score. Hard to mess up

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« Reply #108 on: April 26, 2007, 01:28:37 PM »
The SR teaser was pretty good.
Well it was entirely marlon brando with john williams background score. Hard to mess up

Yeah, that's why I hesitate to call it great.  It was pretty much 75% assets from the original movie.  it was still well done.
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« Reply #109 on: April 26, 2007, 01:29:56 PM »
It was good, just like the final product :bow

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« Reply #110 on: April 26, 2007, 01:32:20 PM »
As time goes on and I'm more removed from my midnight screening, I really hate Superman Returns more and more.
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« Reply #111 on: April 26, 2007, 01:35:58 PM »
I remember coming out of the theater and saying to my brother "ok, that was better than Batman Begins". I'm ashamed :-\

While it's definitely a solid movie (8.5./10) it's not better than Batman Begins. I'd say it's better than the first Spiderman movie - but I haven't seen Spidey 1 in some time
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« Reply #112 on: April 26, 2007, 01:37:46 PM »
It's not better than Roger Corman's Fantastic Four.
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« Reply #113 on: April 26, 2007, 01:38:55 PM »
Well I certainly wouldn't know because I refuse to see F4
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« Reply #114 on: April 26, 2007, 01:40:09 PM »
I'm not talking about the one directed by Tim Story w/ Jessica Alba - I'm talking the direct-to-home-video abomination not seen by man's eyes.
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Re: DAMNIT, Sam Raimi You Failed Me
« Reply #115 on: April 26, 2007, 01:43:41 PM »
I'm not talking about the one directed by Tim Story w/ Jessica Alba - I'm talking the direct-to-home-video abomination not seen by man's eyes.
I saw it. It was awesome. And Willco you'll be there front and center for "The Man of Steel" and you know it!

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Re: DAMNIT, Sam Raimi You Failed Me
« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2007, 01:47:14 PM »
People who hate on SR make me laugh. All the arguments are very childish. bubububu where's the action mommy wheres the bad guys waaaaaahhhh
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Re: DAMNIT, Sam Raimi You Failed Me
« Reply #117 on: April 26, 2007, 01:48:28 PM »
People who hate on SR make me laugh. All the arguments are very childish. bubububu where's the action mommy wheres the bad guys waaaaaahhhh
Solo says its under-rated and gave it like an 8/10 I believe. I agree with it. It's a under-rated film.

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Re: DAMNIT, Sam Raimi You Failed Me
« Reply #118 on: April 26, 2007, 01:50:27 PM »
hold up. if you like superman returns i will never, ever take your opinion on movies seriously again. it was horribly paced, horribly written, horribly acted big-budget dross.
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Re: DAMNIT, Sam Raimi You Failed Me
« Reply #119 on: April 26, 2007, 01:50:30 PM »
Superman Returns wasn't true in spirit to the comic book or previous movies.  To make things worse, it was leisurely paced.  It had very little dialogue, too, which is okay on occasion, but SR had no justification.  It was also a mess.  It had scenes that really didn't make much sense, contextually.
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