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MrAngryFace

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Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« on: May 06, 2007, 11:44:05 AM »

Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000

As some of you may recall I picked this desktop set up the other day, due in part to the frustration in the wireless signal pushed out by my previous desktop combo. I use these wireless devices for the living room where a low profile simple keyboard is a must to prevent unsightly evidence of nerding out whenever guests come over.

First off, the Bluetooth range is worth the extra money. I can comfortably sit in my chair 7-10 feet away and use my entertainment center PC without any lags or drops. Unlike the PS3 controller which actually has issues maintaining connectivity :p The keyboard comes with the usual KEYS you may expect, but the numpad was axed for the sake of media specific controlls as well as an extremely responsive and subtle touchpad along the right edge of the keyboard. That's right, you dont REALLY need the mouse. The left and right click buttons are located on the opposite side of the keyboard. I was sorta miffed it lacked a 'window scroll' specific feature but they page up and page down keys are conveniently close to the touch pad, and that honestly does the job just fine. A mouse wheel would have looked pretty ghetto.

The entire F-Row set of keys was replaced with asssigned touch pads along the top of the keyboard. This cuts down on size considerably, but its really easy to forget they are there and hit them by accident. The escape key being the biggest culprit. Thank fully MOST programs dont respond to the escape key anymore. The media keys include pause/play, forward step, back step, record, mute, volume controls and a channel up/down key. Round it all out with glossy Media Center and Start Menu buttons and you have one sexy keyboard. The keyboard IS bent (yes yes Viz) but much like the Ergo keyboards offered up in the past its easy to learn and switch between standard keyboards. HOWEVER, during the first few weeks its very easy to accidently hit those F-Row keys, which could mean anything in different programs.

The mouse that comes with the desktop is a standard Microsoft Laser (not optical) Mouse design with one primary difference, one of the buttons from the left side ran over to the right. Meaning the two side buttons your thumb could hit for forward and back during browsing have been split up. Who knows why. I havent used the mouse a whole lot but I cant imagine that change being a good one. However, the inclusion of a mouse with this keyboard makes it a very flexible package, in that someone who ISNT using it as a media center desktop interface can take advantage of its small size and insane range with their laptop while on location in a prehistoric park gone made.

The keyboard runs off four standard AA batteries that fit into these awesome locking flaps along the top of the keyboard. The mouse uses rechargable batteries and a charging cradle. NMHi batteries have actually come a long way since way back when, the 'memory issue' is a non-issue and I think most wireless mice on two AAs have a lifespan of 1.5-3 months ANYWAY.

In short i'd probably give this desktop combination an A-. While there are quirks to the new design the Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000 clearly does what it sound out to do and looks as stylish as an Apple Product to boot. This is also and excellent option for anyone who had previously been looking at the Media Center specific Keyboard but didn't have media center or the required Media Center remote module.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2007, 11:59:40 AM »
I picked up the 6000 at OfficeMax.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2007, 12:20:41 PM »
I'm rocking this bad boy:
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2007, 12:36:04 PM »
Ecro: There's something to be said for the old clicky-clacks, mostly the feedback the typist gets from the keyboard. I think the newer keyboards are doing a great job providing the form of a laptop keyboard but the response of an old clicky clack. I find it hard to type if I dont get that sensation.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2007, 12:59:12 PM »
Clicky clack? :lol

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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2007, 01:05:20 PM »
Yeah its the noise old keyboards make. The older they keyboard the louder it is.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2007, 02:53:50 PM »
I nearly paid $200 for a Japanese XT IBM clicky-clack keyboard. Well, the entire system, monitor and all...I just wanted the clicky-clack keyboard.

What's the response like on TVC's Di Novo Edge?
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2007, 03:00:36 PM »
How much did you play for the 7000?  My logitech G7 is annoying the hell out of me because I've to recharge the battery every day now.  I've only had it for about a year.  Do all rechargeable batteries lose their charging capacities so quickly? 

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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2007, 03:22:11 PM »
How much did you play for the 7000?  My logitech G7 is annoying the hell out of me because I've to recharge the battery every day now.  I've only had it for about a year.  Do all rechargeable batteries lose their charging capacities so quickly? 

Depends on usage habits, but they should last 2-3 years under "Normal use" which is considered its "lifetime"

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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2007, 03:29:16 PM »
Nice review.  But...

I use these wireless devices for the living room where a low profile simple keyboard is a must to prevent unsightly evidence of nerding out whenever guests come over.

What do you do - hide the keyboard and mouse under the couch or something?
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2007, 03:33:17 PM »
He's really cautious about his image. So you play games and use a PC. Big deal? So does majority of the world.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2007, 03:38:37 PM »
I think playing PC games are okay but playing PC games on a TV in your living room=nerd. 

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2007, 03:40:11 PM »
Not really.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2007, 03:50:40 PM »
I think playing PC games are okay but playing PC games on a TV in your living room=nerd. 

In your opinion, if a person saw a video game console hooked up to your TV, does that make you a nerd?  I'm genuinely curious.

Or does having a PC hooked up to a TV, therefore being ahead of the curve in terms of the adoption of technology in roles not previously considered by the populace at large, make you a nerd?

There really isn't any difference, functionally.  Just the perceived notion of being outside the narrow constrains of current trends.


/nerd
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2007, 03:56:22 PM »


TWO WIRELESS DESKTOPS ENTER, ONE WIRELESS DESKTOP LEAVES!
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2007, 04:11:19 PM »
Error:

Nah its about the image. A keyboard in the living room needs to be small wireless and sleek so it can put put anywhere in the room and not look horrible. It should be easy to lift and easy to store. It isnt about hiding it, its about not HAVING to hide it.

Smooth:

Computer hooked to TV in living room is for itunes and other downloaded from OTHER SOURCES video content. Its also nice having web browsing/shopping access in the living room and being able to hop on Messenger and see what friends are up to.

Gaming in the living room is almost impossible due to the posture you have to maintain when SERIOUSLY gaming. The Xbox 360 is pretty much a computer hooked up to your tv that plays games. And as stated this is an ENTERTAINMENT desktop, focused around media presentation.

TVC:

That's horrible for a living room, its fukin huge.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2007, 04:13:34 PM »
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TWO WIRELESS DESKTOPS ENTER, ONE WIRELESS DESKTOP LEAVES!
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2007, 04:13:42 PM »
Okay, thanks for clearing that up.  I was worried for a bit that MAF might be turning into one of those people.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2007, 04:13:52 PM »
The Edge is tiny.  And it has a trackpad built right in.  
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2007, 04:17:30 PM »
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TWO WIRELESS DESKTOPS ENTER, ONE WIRELESS DESKTOP LEAVES!

You know someone has too much money when he's buying $200 keyboards.  I spent alot on my PC but I would never go that far for a keyboard.  That mouse's nice but I wish they had DPI switching like my G7.  How often do you have to charge your mouse's batteries?  I have to do mine everyday even when I'm just using my PC for the internet. 

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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2007, 04:19:55 PM »
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TWO WIRELESS DESKTOPS ENTER, ONE WIRELESS DESKTOP LEAVES!

You know someone has too much money when he's buying $200 keyboards.  I spent alot on my PC but I would never go that far for a keyboard.  That mouse's nice but I wish they had DPI switching like my G7.  How often do you have to charge your mouse's batteries?  I have to do mine everyday even when I'm just using my PC for the internet. 

I have to charge it every 3-4 days.  I love the mouse a ton, but I wish it were wired.  i miss having high dpi.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2007, 04:20:15 PM »
TWO WIRELESS DESKTOPS ENTER, ONE WIRELESS DESKTOP LEAVES!

I have this potentially irrational lust for Logitech products.  I'm inclined to automatically veer toward them.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up.  I was worried for a bit that MAF might be turning into one of those people.

Oh, and I really don't know who "those people" actually are.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2007, 04:23:23 PM »
Error:

Oh no, I fully subscribe to the idea of successful integration of high technology in my daily life, in moderation of course.

Smooth:

The wonderful thing about having too much money is you get to spend it how you want. Not how others think you should.

TVC:

Mine has a built in trackpad too nyah!
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2007, 04:23:45 PM »

I have to charge it every 3-4 days.  I love the mouse a ton, but I wish it were wired.  i miss having high dpi.

I must have gotten one with crap batteries then.  My G7 is up to 2000 DPI, is that higher than yours?  Modulating DPIs on the fly is also awesome for shooters. 

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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2007, 04:26:15 PM »
I will say that, the mouse that comes with the logitech blows the MS one away dpi wise. HOWEVER, I think the Keyboard makes up for it.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2007, 04:30:45 PM »
I've got like 3 or 4 of these model M keyboards in my house.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2007, 04:33:55 PM »
I've got stacks of old computer crap in my closet, I should give some away but they're all pretty old.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2007, 04:46:27 PM »
I've got stacks of old computer crap in my closet, I should give some away but they're all pretty old.
I've got probably 70 PS2 keyboards in 2 boxes in my room that I plan on trying to hawk.
They're mostly IBM KB-9910 keyboards.


There's a few IBM KB-8923's


and a few IBM SK-8809's
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2007, 04:50:05 PM »
I like the 8923. I have a fucking old Brother laptop from 1985, it rocks.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2007, 05:03:10 PM »
we should do a computer parts swap thread. i have loads of crap evilboreans might want.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2007, 05:20:11 PM »
we should do a computer parts swap thread. i have loads of crap evilboreans might want.

What do you have?  I have a 20 inch viewsonic vx2025wm widescreen monitor yet to be sold.  I've got a bunch of old creative soundcards but I doubt anyone would want them.  I've also got a AMD/Nforce 4 Sli motherboard lying around. 

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« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2007, 05:23:00 PM »
i've got a couple vidcards (a 5200 PCI [not PCI-X] and a 9600XT AGP), a 300 GB Maxtor drive (SATA 3.0) and various RAM modules, off the top of my head.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2007, 05:27:42 PM »
Why aren't you using that HD?  That sounds pretty nice.  Can you fit that into the PS3?  I don't have much use for vidcards since I already have a 8800GTX.  How fast is your ram?  I have 2gbs of 8500 DDR2 but I want to upgrade to 4gb for my future Vista installation. 

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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2007, 05:35:58 PM »
the PS3 uses 2.5" drives; this is a 3.5".
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« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2007, 05:36:45 PM »
i'll hafta look. i've got a drawer packed with reasonably current ram modules (DDR and DDR2 of varying flavors; LOADS of 512 MB laptop RAM modules).
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« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2007, 05:46:30 PM »
i'll hafta look. i've got a drawer packed with reasonably current ram modules (DDR and DDR2 of varying flavors; LOADS of 512 MB laptop RAM modules).

You should unload those laptop ram on ebay.  Don't laptop ram cost much more than regular desktop ram? 

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« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2007, 05:51:50 PM »
i would, but i hate using ebay. like myspace, it's something i refuse to participate in.
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« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2007, 05:57:13 PM »
i'll hafta look. i've got a drawer packed with reasonably current ram modules (DDR and DDR2 of varying flavors; LOADS of 512 MB laptop RAM modules).

got some 2100 ddr notebook ram you can spare?

I've got a creative audigy soundblaster 24bit soundcard with 5.5 audigy drive thang.

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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2007, 07:19:12 PM »
I was wrong the kind i need is PC2700 DDR SDRAM Notebook, you got any 512mb or 1gb sticks you want to get rid of Drinky?

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« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2007, 10:56:18 PM »
i have a bunch of 512 MB sticks.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2007, 11:02:27 PM »
i have a bunch of 512 MB sticks.

You think you'd be nice to get rid of two and send them to me?  :-*

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« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2007, 11:19:01 PM »
I'm rocking this bad boy:
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I think we *FINALLY* got rid of all of those that were in my parents house. Maybe, there's probably one or two hiding somewhere. I still have a shelled out IBM PS/2 in my bedroom. Need to get rid of that.
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« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2007, 11:26:27 PM »
i have a bunch of 512 MB sticks.

You think you'd be nice to get rid of two and send them to me?  :-*

pm me yer mail address.
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« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2007, 11:27:38 PM »
I'm rocking this bad boy:
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I think we *FINALLY* got rid of all of those that were in my parents house. Maybe, there's probably one or two hiding somewhere. I still have a shelled out IBM PS/2 in my bedroom. Need to get rid of that.
Those still sell for like $20 on eBay.
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« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2007, 11:36:56 PM »
i have a bunch of 512 MB sticks.

You think you'd be nice to get rid of two and send them to me?  :-*

pm me yer mail address.

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« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2007, 11:38:35 PM »
i have a bunch of 512 MB sticks.

You think you'd be nice to get rid of two and send them to me?  :-*

pm me yer mail address.

I can replay to pm's but cant make new ones, stupid leper status.

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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2007, 11:39:55 PM »
Well i forgot about that. Oh and thanks for that book man It was freaking great.

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« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2007, 11:45:30 PM »
Well i forgot about that. Oh and thanks for that book man It was freaking great.
You know, I just remembered that you couldn't figure out what kind of ATI card it was that i sent you.
I recall making a thread about it at GAF. I'm going to pull up the info. Be back in a bit.
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« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2007, 11:50:20 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116692

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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2007, 12:01:47 AM »
I did find out what it was eventually boy oh boy that took some investigating. But it went into my temp box and it does work.

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« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2007, 04:03:24 AM »
I'm rocking this bad boy:
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I think we *FINALLY* got rid of all of those that were in my parents house. Maybe, there's probably one or two hiding somewhere. I still have a shelled out IBM PS/2 in my bedroom. Need to get rid of that.
Those still sell for like $20 on eBay.

Dammit!
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2007, 05:54:18 AM »
TVC that track pad on the EDGE how is it? Is it really responsive? I just wonder cause I gotta find a wireless setup for a multimedia center in the next few days. Thought it would be easier if everything was on one board.

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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2007, 01:39:56 PM »
TVC that track pad on the EDGE how is it? Is it really responsive? I just wonder cause I gotta find a wireless setup for a multimedia center in the next few days. Thought it would be easier if everything was on one board.

It's very responsive.  I mean, trackpads are never as good as mice, but this one it good.  It also has a decent smart move feature to make up for the lessened precision.
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Re: Review: Microsoft Entertainment Desktop 7000
« Reply #53 on: May 07, 2007, 01:41:26 PM »
I need Ecro's keyboard with a USB end on it, due to me mainly rocking the laptop now.
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