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Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« on: May 07, 2007, 02:42:37 AM »
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Mosul, Iraq -- According to the Kurdish website Jebar.info up to 1000 men from the Yezidi Kurdish community of Mosul killed a teenager who's only crime was running away to marry a Muslim man whom she loved and converting to his religion.

For four months the girl had been given shelter by a local Muslim Sheik. It was reported that in the last few days her family persuaded her to return home, convincing her that she had been forgiven by her parents and relatives for her mistake.

In a short mobile video clip which appears to have been taken by locals at seen of the murder, the girl is seen being ambushed on her way home by a group of up to 1000 men who were waiting for her to return; the men killed her in the most brutal way possible, by throwing large stones on her head. The following clips show that while she is alive and crying for help she is taunted and kicked in her stomach until someone finishes her off by throwing a large stone on her face.

GOOGLE VIDEO LINK OF STONING (not for faint of heart)

seriously horrific
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2007, 02:47:41 AM »
This is why there's a serious disconnect between Western Civilization and the Middle East.  They just don't think the way we do.  The mind boggles that someone could do something like this.  This is horrifying.  I'm not even clicking on the link because I'm not interested in watching a murder taking place, but damn.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2007, 02:50:30 AM »
Romeo and Juliet middle east style isn't quite as cool as ours.

Link doesn't work anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2007, 02:51:07 AM »
Romeo and Juliet middle east style isn't quite as cool as ours.

Link doesn't work anyway.
it should now

Phoenix Dark

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Re: Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2007, 02:55:15 AM »
They put her dress back on after it had falled off due to them beating her. Classy

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Re: Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2007, 02:57:27 AM »
JESUS please destroy these people. ::)

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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2007, 03:00:47 AM »
I wonder if we'd be disgusted with Japanese if the media was like it is now back then.  I'm sure there was some disturbing things done. I don't really know how you approach a culture that does such things. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 03:01:31 AM »
i love some of the people on GAF "don't judge guys, it's just a different culture"   ::)


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Re: Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2007, 03:04:14 AM »
I wonder if we'd be disgusted with Japanese if the media like it is now back then.  I'm sure there was some disturbing things done. I don't really know how you approach a culture that does such things. 

You mean in World War II?  I'm sure we'd be as disgusted with them as we were with Nazi Germany.  It's just that the stuff in Japan was kept much quieter due to the US wanting to profit off of the research that their techniques had achieved, and not wanting to tip off the Soviets about it.
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Scurvy Stan

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2007, 03:04:36 AM »
That was disturbing, especially the half dozen guys snapping photos with their camera phones.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2007, 03:05:47 AM »
Fuuhhhhhccckkk...  I'm not watching that.  The description alone upset me enough  :(

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2007, 03:07:43 AM »
I was just thinking in true hollywood fashion that wouldn't it be ironic if the boyfriend saves this video on his laptop and 30 years from now is in control of iraq and his army goes all genocidal on the kurds as payback for this?
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Re: Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2007, 03:11:11 AM »
i love some of the people on GAF "don't judge guys, it's just a different culture"   ::)


Do you have a link to anyone saying that? I wouldn't be surprised if someone on GAF said that, but I'd like to see it first before commenting.

The video is disgusting. What's most disgusting is that here you have more than a dozen men stomping a defenseless woman, and not one person objected. I understand she did something "wrong" in their society, but my god. Stomping her fucking head in? You'd think they'd kick her out the village or something.

That's a pretty violent, barbaric twist on a rather peaceful religion.
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2007, 03:16:56 AM »
That's a pretty violent, barbaric twist on a rather peaceful religion.
I forgot what exactly they said, but someone on GAF said it has nothing to do with their religion.

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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2007, 03:18:53 AM »
That's a pretty violent, barbaric twist on a rather peaceful religion.
I forgot what exactly they said, but someone on GAF said it has nothing to do with their religion.

The seperation between Sunnis and Shiites is due to religious reasons though, so it's at the root of the issue. Either way, damn :-\
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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2007, 03:19:27 AM »
That's a pretty violent, barbaric twist on a rather peaceful religion.
I forgot what exactly they said, but someone on GAF said it has nothing to do with their religion.
yeah, a lot of people are saying it's a tribal thing.

PD: just read through the thread.  quite a few people say it and then follow it up "but yeah, it's horrible."   fucking bullshit.  you contradict yourself by saying "be understanding guys!  it's a different culture.  but it's horrible."  THEN DON'T FUCKING TELL ME TO BE UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE IT IS HORRIBLE.

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Re: Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2007, 03:22:00 AM »
i love some of the people on GAF "don't judge guys, it's just a different culture"   ::)


Probably as bad as Juice not bothering to read the article and going lol Muslims or the few others going being blatantly racist against Kurds.

Here's one of the quotes:
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The morals that we have are not the same as theres. I am not defending this act at all, but you have to remember their life styles. I am sure the girl knew that by taking that risk something like this could happen.
We can't pretend like we live in a utopia either.

Also most of them are apathetic not being hypocritical IMO.
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Re: Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2007, 03:30:07 AM »
Quote from: Pewp
The morals that we have are not the same as theres. I am not defending this act at all, but you have to remember their life styles. I am sure the girl knew that by taking that risk something like this could happen.
We can't pretend like we live in a utopia either.

Even as a contrarian asshole I find this post totally stupid. I'm sorry, but there's nothing moral about beating a defenseless woman to death.

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No, it wasn't. An evil act is one committed with full knowledge that what one is doing is morally wrong. These people believed they were morally correct. I believe what they did was wrong, but that is not the same thing as evil. Very, very few people in the world can actually be termed "evil," and they are primarily lucid sociopaths. Taking her life was wrong, because as a human being her life is hers and no one has the right to take it from her. It was not evil because the people who killed her follow a moral code that says their act was just.

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2007, 03:32:46 AM »
You can profile all the wife beaters on GAF with that thread.
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2007, 03:32:55 AM »
I hate how people at GAF get technical about every single fucking thing. That shit is evil no matter how you look at it.

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Re: Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2007, 03:35:11 AM »
Next time some "Christian" blows up an abortion clinic I'll make sure to post about it on GAF. Just watch how the tables switch
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Re: Teenage Kurdish Girl Stoned: Stolen from GAF
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2007, 03:46:34 AM »
Quote from: Pewp
The morals that we have are not the same as theres. I am not defending this act at all, but you have to remember their life styles. I am sure the girl knew that by taking that risk something like this could happen.
We can't pretend like we live in a utopia either.

Even as a contrarian asshole I find this post totally stupid. I'm sorry, but there's nothing moral about beating a defenseless woman to death.

Quote from:  MattKeil
No, it wasn't. An evil act is one committed with full knowledge that what one is doing is morally wrong. These people believed they were morally correct. I believe what they did was wrong, but that is not the same thing as evil. Very, very few people in the world can actually be termed "evil," and they are primarily lucid sociopaths. Taking her life was wrong, because as a human being her life is hers and no one has the right to take it from her. It was not evil because the people who killed her follow a moral code that says their act was just.
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If you take into account their probable lack of education, the isolation from different values and ideas as well as their unerring faith I can see where MattKeil is coming from. These people live on faith and their culture and this girl sadly confronted their sense of identity. They simply do what they do since they do not know any better, like animals.


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