Author Topic: I really want there to be another video game crash, like in the eighties.  (Read 2947 times)

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Ichirou

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I think it will be a cleansing experience for the game industry.  Like a colonic.  Wash all that bad stuff out.
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Sounds good to me.  Microsoft and Nintendo are the only ones with the cash to survive a video game crash.  works for me as long as Team Ico goes third party.

Ichirou

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CRASH, VIDEO GAME MARKET!!! CRASH, DAMN YOU!!!
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PC gaming would survive also, so that would be ok.

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I think gamers need a colonic. So many good games dont get enough attention and praise. Yet Madden and bullshit movie games sell through the fucking roof.

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wouldn't that wipe out most third parties, sony's game division and just leave Nintendo and Microsoft as hardware producers with like the only third party being EA?

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The problem is that the videogame crash of the 80's never happened. People didn't stop playing games, they just played games on different machines (arcades and C-64/Atari 800).


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The problem is that the videogame crash of the 80's never happened. People didn't stop playing games, they just played games on different machines (arcades and C-64/Atari 800).


Let people believe that the crash killed gaming and Miyamoto all by himself brought it back to life. It's a good story I guess.

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EA isn't bad. They make good games, but some of you taco fanboys still like to bitch and complain. Especially Cheebs, that cigarillo cocksucker.

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The problem is that the videogame crash of the 80's never happened. People didn't stop playing games, they just played games on different machines (arcades and C-64/Atari 800).


They didn't go to arcades either, though. The whole Laserdisc love affair came and went REAL quick like.


EA isn't bad. They make good games, but some of you taco fanboys still like to bitch and complain. Especially Cheebs, that cigarillo cocksucker.


Fuck man, I was hoping that there wouldn't be internet access at summer school.
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EA isn't bad. They make good games, but some of you taco fanboys still like to bitch and complain. Especially Cheebs, that cigarillo cocksucker.
hating ps3 isn't being a fanboy when everyone else does it! Otherwise I don't know what you are talking about.

Also guess what, I buy Madden every year. Omgz I hate EA.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2007, 11:40:51 AM by Cheebs »

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I don't know why anyone would want this?
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A ton of companies have aleady bit the dust. All a crash would do is make more crap and licensed titles as the remaining companies try to play it safe and stay afloat.
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aint gonna happen brother.  mobile games are gonna take over the planet.
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MrAngryFace

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Id probably get to finishing some games :p
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Ichirou

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Obviously the crash needs to be big enough to convince MS to get out of the console gaming market and to make Nintendo focus only on handhelds and playing cards.
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yeah, a crash would sure save me some bucks and it might clear the delusions of waggle/touch from the console mindshare
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Ichirou

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I really just want the consumers to get fed up with all this HD/HDMI/720p/1820p/broadband/firmware update/tech talk and say "This shit is all too complicated, I'm just going to stick with my PS2" and then have the gaming industry crash for five or six years and then to lick its wounds and hopefully come back humbled and actually willing to make GOOD product instead of glitchy, badly designed systems (360's failures, PS3 and the Sixaxis signal) and gimmicky crap (Wii, DS Lite).  I want gaming systems that are intuitive to use and install, that launch with at least ONE great game (even the N64 had Super Mario 64 on launch) and that have a constant stream of good product coming down the pipeline.
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The problem is that the videogame crash of the 80's never happened. People didn't stop playing games, they just played games on different machines (arcades and C-64/Atari 800).


Let people believe that the crash killed gaming and Miyamoto all by himself brought it back to life. It's a good story I guess.

Dang, Cheebs when'd you become all out anti-Miyamoto?

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I really just want the consumers to get fed up with all this HD/HDMI/720p/1820p/broadband/firmware update/tech talk and say "This shit is all too complicated, I'm just going to stick with my PS2" and then have the gaming industry crash for five or six years and then to lick its wounds and hopefully come back humbled and actually willing to make GOOD product instead of glitchy, badly designed systems (360's failures, PS3 and the Sixaxis signal) and gimmicky crap (Wii, DS Lite).

The gimmicky crap is the only saving it from a crash. It's not really gimmicky. It's closer to what videogames are about than what we have had. This si why I sticky by Nintendo and I TRRRRRY to explain it to others.

Nintendo is a videogame company, they rely on videogames to survive.

All the companies are looking to feed their pocket. 

But since Nintendo is the last videogame company int he console race, they're the only ones left wanting to feed their pocket in a way that has to due solely with the gaming industry.  They aren't asking me to go broadband, pay for internet services, buy an HDTV, a bigger sound system, for music licenses that they already own, for all this other non-gaming product that they either own or have partnerships with. 

Take Live for example, it's considered a success. or at least the service part is.  The problem is, I still have little interest in it because the gaming side, THE GAMES, still are offering nothing new to me.  It's the same multiplayer I was playing before, but this time I can't punch a guy in the nuts if he cheats. This is the seperation of gaming pursuits from MS and Sony pursuits.  Of course, Nintendo hasn't offered anything new in online either, but it was never their interest. 

Consumers might have actually got tired of what was happening with MS and Sony.  Plus, both companies were stretching the dollar of an already overplundered demographic.  Eventually MS and Sony would cause a crash, because they kept stretching it out. If it crashed, they had other business pursuits to stay alive. 

If consumers were just tired of videogames in general, then your PS2 scenario would be what we're seeing.  People would have stick with GBA and ps2, but that's not what we're seeing.  The DS and Wii are selling when others are not.  I think the gaming world doesn't get it, because some are use to PC gaming and constantly investing hundreds into their rig every other year to basically play an updated version of the same game.  The majority don't want that, and that is where Sony and MS were headed.

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The problem is that the videogame crash of the 80's never happened. People didn't stop playing games, they just played games on different machines (arcades and C-64/Atari 800).


Let people believe that the crash killed gaming and Miyamoto all by himself brought it back to life. It's a good story I guess.

Dang, Cheebs when'd you become all out anti-Miyamoto?
I am anti-Miyamoto? To my knowledge I own a Wii and DS and am looking forward to Super Mario Galaxy.

I am just a video game crash "denier". The crash is more legend than fact at this point. Atari fell apart, Video Games did not.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2007, 12:17:23 PM by Cheebs »

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Oh etoilet, you read like a PR pamphlet
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They didn't go to arcades either, though. The whole Laserdisc love affair came and went REAL quick like.


1983:

Sales of arcade video game machines during the year: US$2.9 billion. [305.37]
Arcade video game revenue for the year: US$5 billion. [53.D1]

http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/arcade/arc1983.htm



Dude, you're talking about an era where you couldn't go into ANY business and not see an arcade machine. Pizza places, Convience stores, Drug stores, Ice cream parlors, Hotels, Banks, Restaurants, Department stores. Multiple machines at almost anywhere that people congregated. That's not even counting all the arcades in malls and mom and pop owned franchises.

Although Dragon's Lair made a big splash that year (really, moreso in 1984), games like Spy Hunter, Q-bert, Elevator Action, Tapper all came out that year. Not to mention the amazing year of 1982:

Burgertime (1982)
Dig Dug (1982)
Joust (1982)
Moon Patrol (1982)
Pole Position (1982)
Robotron 2084 (1982)
Time Pilot (1982)
Tron (1982)
Xevious (1982)
Zaxxon (1982)

Most of those were just making their way around American arcades by 1983. It was the heart of the golden age of arcades. Nothing on consoles could match them graphically.


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Sales of arcade video game machines during the year: US$2.9 billion. [305.37]
Arcade video game revenue for the year: US$5 billion. [53.D1]

http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/arcade/arc1983.htm



Dude, you're talking about an era where you couldn't go into ANY business and not see an arcade machine. Pizza places, Convience stores, Drug stores, Ice cream parlors, Hotels, Banks, Restaurants, Department stores. Multiple machines at almost anywhere that people congregated. That's not even counting all the arcades in malls and mom and pop owned franchises.

Although Dragon's Lair made a big splash that year (really, moreso in 1984), games like Spy Hunter, Q-bert, Elevator Action, Tapper all came out that year. Not to mention the amazing year of 1982:

Burgertime (1982)
Dig Dug (1982)
Joust (1982)
Moon Patrol (1982)
Pole Position (1982)
Robotron 2084 (1982)
Time Pilot (1982)
Tron (1982)
Xevious (1982)
Zaxxon (1982)

Most of those were just making their way around American arcades by 1983. It was the heart of the golden age of arcades. Nothing on consoles could match them graphically.


I'm definitely not disputing that the early 80's had some amazing games, like the ones you listed... I'm saying that after the initial success of Dragons' Lair, a lot of arcade operators and coin-op distributors put all the eggs into the Laserdisc basket. You could definitely find arcade games ANYWHERE at that time, but when people got burned off Laserdisc games, the space devoted to Arcade games became smaller.

This is all anecdotal though, I suck.  :'(
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Oblivion

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The problem is that the videogame crash of the 80's never happened. People didn't stop playing games, they just played games on different machines (arcades and C-64/Atari 800).


Let people believe that the crash killed gaming and Miyamoto all by himself brought it back to life. It's a good story I guess.

Dang, Cheebs when'd you become all out anti-Miyamoto?
I am anti-Miyamoto? To my knowledge I own a Wii and DS and am looking forward to Super Mario Galaxy.

I am just a video game crash "denier". The crash is more legend than fact at this point. Atari fell apart, Video Games did not.

Okay, sorry, it seemed to come off that way. Oh, and one could own a Wii and DS and still be anti-miyamoto you know. ;)

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Oh etoilet, you read like a PR pamphlet


I called the 'female gamer' and non-beer-ad-demographic market being the key to beating Sony early in last gen.  Of course, I followed that up by saying Sony would probably realize this and corner the market first.  I didn't think N was bright enough to do it.

All I'm doing is gloating in my "i called it" aroma of stink.  :)

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If it crashes again it's not coming back.

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I want gaming systems that are intuitive to use and install, that launch with at least ONE great game (even the N64 had Super Mario 64 on launch) and that have a constant stream of good product coming down the pipeline.

What a novel fucking concept.  I guess Wii had Twilight Princess which I'm enjoying, but yeah, it's been awhile since a console launched with a Must Have.  Gamecube, PS2, and XBox all launched without one imo.  X360/PS3 obviously don't have one.  Wii has TP but hell, I waited 3 years for that game and it didn't launch on the platform it was designed for, so it's hard to really count that one.  DC launched with Soul Calibur, that was probably the last launch "Must Have title.  Interesting thought, I appreciate it.
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