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a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« on: May 17, 2007, 08:45:45 PM »
Let me just say that I enjoyed the movie, but it wasnt what I was expecting. All the previews and the dvd box cover led me to believe that the film was completly fantasy based. I thought the whole thing was going to involve mystical creatures and take place in the underground world. But the that was barely 10 minutes of the movie.
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Ichirou

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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2007, 08:46:12 PM »
So I take it you read zero reviews before actually watching it?
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2007, 08:49:04 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 08:46:12 PM
So I take it you read zero reviews before actually watching it?

Was I supposed to?
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2007, 08:49:33 PM »
No, reading is for elitist assholes who feign interest in obscure cinema.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2007, 08:50:34 PM »
I guess I can just skip the movie and just read the review from now on.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2007, 08:51:08 PM »
Wait, it's not?  >:( Can you give me a synopsis without ruining anything?
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2007, 08:52:55 PM »
Quote from: Candyflip on May 17, 2007, 08:51:08 PM
Wait, it's not?  >:( Can you give me a synopsis without ruining anything?

Its a 2 hour movie about a girl living with a spanish captain during WW2. About 10-20 minutes is about her trying to find this underground world where she might or might not be a princess.

Now that I think about it she probably wasnt even in half of the movie. The maid felt more like  main character.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2007, 08:54:35 PM »
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: Candyflip on May 17, 2007, 08:51:08 PM
Wait, it's not?  >:( Can you give me a synopsis without ruining anything?

Its a 2 hour movie about a girl living with a spanish captain during WW2. About 10-20 minutes is about her trying to find this underground world where she might or might not be a princess.

Now that I think about it she probably wasnt even in half of the movie. The maid felt more like  main character.

WHY IS IT EVEN IN SPANISH!? WHY DON'T THEY SPEAK AMUURRRICAN?

It's the Spanish Civil War, you idiot.  Not WW2.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2007, 08:55:59 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: Candyflip on May 17, 2007, 08:51:08 PM
Wait, it's not?  >:( Can you give me a synopsis without ruining anything?

Its a 2 hour movie about a girl living with a spanish captain during WW2. About 10-20 minutes is about her trying to find this underground world where she might or might not be a princess.

Now that I think about it she probably wasnt even in half of the movie. The maid felt more like  main character.


WHY IS IT EVEN IN SPANISH!? WHY DON'T THEY SPEAK AMUURRRICAN?

It's the Spanish Civil War, you idiot.  Not WW2.

I said it takes place during WW2 (which it does). Infact some could even argue that the spanish civil war was a part of WW2.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2007, 08:57:23 PM »
The fact that it wasn't all out fantasy wasn't a letdown for me.

BECAUSE THE MOVIE STILL KICKED MY ASS.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2007, 08:57:42 PM »
No, nobody would argue that.  The reason that Spain didn't benefit from the Marshall Plan was because the country wasn't involved in WW2, even though Franco was allied with the Axis. You're a dumbass.

The movie may take place CHRONOLOGICALLY during WW2, but the stuff that's going on in the movie is not in any way related to WW2, it's related to the aftermath of the Spanish Civil War.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2007, 08:59:34 PM »
::) was it at least enjoyable?
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2007, 09:01:07 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 08:57:42 PM
No, nobody would argue that.  The reason that Spain didn't benefit from the Marshall Plan was because the country wasn't involved in WW2, even though Franco was allied with the Axis. You're a dumbass.

The movie may take place CHRONOLOGICALLY during WW2, but the stuff that's going on in the movie is not in any way related to WW2, it's related to the aftermath of the Spanish Civil War.

So when the guy in the cave is happy about the americans invading normandy, that was just the director taking some liberties with history?
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Ichirou

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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2007, 09:02:23 PM »
You're not very bright, FOC.  ::)

Please bring the topic back to the Spanish Civil War being part of WW2 so I can own your ass a bit more.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2007, 09:03:33 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:02:23 PM
You're not very bright, FOC.  ::)

Please bring the topic back to the Spanish Civil War being part of WW2 so I can own your ass a bit more.

Answer my question. Why is the Rebel in the cave happy that the americans are coming? It's obvious they want the allies to free spain.

Not only that but my original statemnt of the moving taking place during WW2 still stands as a fact.
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Ichirou

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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2007, 09:04:51 PM »
lol, obviously the Rebel thought that America was going to topple Franco and a LOT of Spanish people thought that they were going to receive financial aid from the US after WWII.  If you read up on your history, Galen, you will find out that that didn't happen.

Your dumbass statement implied that the conflict in the movie was related to WWII, it wasn't.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2007, 09:06:39 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:04:51 PM
lol, obviously the Rebel thought that America was going to topple Franco and a LOT of Spanish people thought that they were going to receive financial aid from the US after WWII.  If you read up on your history, Galen, you will find out that that didn't happen.

Your dumbass statement implied that the conflict in the movie was related to WWII, it wasn't.

Just the fact that people in spain wanted the americans to free Spain makes it apart of the global conflict known as WW2.
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Ichirou

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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2007, 09:07:47 PM »
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:06:39 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:04:51 PM
lol, obviously the Rebel thought that America was going to topple Franco and a LOT of Spanish people thought that they were going to receive financial aid from the US after WWII.  If you read up on your history, Galen, you will find out that that didn't happen.

Your dumbass statement implied that the conflict in the movie was related to WWII, it wasn't.

Just the fact that people in spain wanted the americans to free Spain makes it apart of the global conflict known as WW2.

No, jackass.

Here is a list of Axis powers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers_of_World_War_II

Please try to find Spain on the list.  The Spanish Civil War ended in 1939.

Just admit you're ignorant about history and move on.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2007, 09:10:12 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:07:47 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:06:39 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:04:51 PM
lol, obviously the Rebel thought that America was going to topple Franco and a LOT of Spanish people thought that they were going to receive financial aid from the US after WWII.  If you read up on your history, Galen, you will find out that that didn't happen.

Your dumbass statement implied that the conflict in the movie was related to WWII, it wasn't.

Just the fact that people in spain wanted the americans to free Spain makes it apart of the global conflict known as WW2.

No, jackass.

Here is a list of Axis powers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers_of_World_War_II

Please try to find Spain on the list.  The Spanish Civil War ended in 1939.

It's like you arent even reading what I am saying. Not to even mention the fact that the movie does indeed take place during WW2. And even that is a very minor point. They could have been fucking Nazis and the movie would be the exact same.
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Ichirou

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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2007, 09:11:20 PM »
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:10:12 PM
It's like you arent even reading what I am saying. Not to even mention the fact that the movie does indeed take place during WW2. And even that is a very minor point. They could have been fucking Nazis and the movie would be the exact same.

You completely missed all the political undertones of the movie and its commentary on fascism.  If the movie was about Nazis, it would be a completely different beast. You fail, FOC.
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2007, 09:12:39 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:10:12 PM
It's like you arent even reading what I am saying. Not to even mention the fact that the movie does indeed take place during WW2. And even that is a very minor point. They could have been fucking Nazis and the movie would be the exact same.

You completely missed all the political undertones of the movie and its commentary on fascism.  If the movie was about Nazis, it would be a completely different beast. You fail, FOC.

I got everything the movie was about obidience etc...

Dude i fail to see how a spanish dictator is soo different than a german dictator.
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Ichirou

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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2007, 09:13:26 PM »
That's because you're stupid, FOC.  Don't worry, we know.
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2007, 09:14:33 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:13:26 PM
That's because you're stupid, FOC.  Don't worry, we know.

Yea, im sure the two facist dictators were like night and day...
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2007, 09:15:52 PM »
Hitler wasn't fascist, you dumbass.  Do you know the difference between fascism and national socialism?
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2007, 09:18:45 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
Hitler wasn't fascist, you dumbass.  Do you know the difference between fascism and national socialism?

Man I bet if the movie took place in germany that the it would have completely sucked...
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2007, 09:19:13 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
Hitler wasn't fascist, you dumbass.  Do you know the difference between fascism and national socialism?

Thats debatable though. 
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2007, 09:21:56 PM »
Man, this is like another trainwreck of a thread by FOC. Great job!
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Re: I was a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth.
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2007, 09:23:30 PM »
Quote from: Candyflip on May 17, 2007, 08:59:34 PM
::) was it at least enjoyable?
yes, it was fucking brilliant.  i loved it.
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2007, 09:24:51 PM »
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:18:45 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
Hitler wasn't fascist, you dumbass.  Do you know the difference between fascism and national socialism?

Man I bet if the movie took place in germany that the it would have completely sucked...

I don't even know what you're trying to say here.
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2007, 09:27:05 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:24:51 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:18:45 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
Hitler wasn't fascist, you dumbass.  Do you know the difference between fascism and national socialism?

Man I bet if the movie took place in germany that the it would have completely sucked...

I don't even know what you're trying to say here.


I'm trying to say that you are bitching and moaning for no reason at all.
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Ichirou

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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2007, 09:29:24 PM »
I'm saying you're ignorant, FOC.  Are you ignorant?  Yes, you are.
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2007, 09:30:24 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:24:51 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:18:45 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
Hitler wasn't fascist, you dumbass.  Do you know the difference between fascism and national socialism?

Man I bet if the movie took place in germany that the it would have completely sucked...

I don't even know what you're trying to say here.


I think foc has take you for a Spanish fascist and that your love of the movie so solely based on that biased view.
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2007, 09:30:35 PM »
Wtf FoC. There were more than 10min of "fantasy". The Pale Man scene alone was more than 5 minutes ::)

All reviews made it clear that it wasn't simply a fantasy movie. It's a beautiful movie, and one of the very best of 2006. That 96% on RT is pretty damn telling.
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2007, 09:31:56 PM »
Quote from: Father_Mike on May 17, 2007, 09:30:24 PM
I think foc has take you for a Spanish fascist and that your love of the movie so solely based on that biased view.

I don't think FOC knows what fascism even is, though.
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2007, 09:35:51 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on May 17, 2007, 09:30:24 PM
I think foc has take you for a Spanish fascist and that your love of the movie so solely based on that biased view.

I don't think FOC knows what fascism even is, though.

Hence the confusion between not know the deference between a Puerto recian* teaching English in Japan and his view that your a Spaniard trying to spread Franco's teachings in japan.   

*  I can't spell.   :-\
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2007, 09:37:13 PM »
Actually, I am a spaniard.  Dual citizenship.  :-*
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2007, 09:37:45 PM »
I also have dual citizenship!
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2007, 09:38:30 PM »
Quote from: whiteACID on May 17, 2007, 09:37:45 PM
I also have dual citizenship!

And they let you work for the air force?  You could betray their secrets at any time!
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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2007, 09:40:21 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:37:13 PM
Actually, I am a spaniard.  Dual citizenship.  :-*

 :o  maybe Foc uncovered your secret.  Maybe he is a genius and was trying to lure you out in this thread to confirm his suspicions.  I bet right now he is delivering his intel the the Japanese embasitor of Texas. 

I will have dual canadain us citizenship.  White what other country do you belong to? 
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2007, 09:41:00 PM »
Quote from: Father_Mike on May 17, 2007, 09:40:21 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:37:13 PM
Actually, I am a spaniard.  Dual citizenship.  :-*

 :o  maybe Foc uncovered your secret.  Maybe he is a genius and was trying to lure you out in this thread to confirm his suspicions.  I bet right now he is delivering his intel the the Japanese embasitor of Texas. 

I will have dual canadain us citizenship.  White what other country do you belong to? 

US and Spain.
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2007, 09:41:23 PM »
I am the Japanese ambassador to Texas.  :o
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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2007, 09:42:29 PM »
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:41:23 PM
I am the Japanese ambassador to Texas.  :o

LOL U LIVED IN JAPAN HOMESTAY
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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2007, 09:43:01 PM »
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:41:23 PM
I am the Japanese ambassador to Texas.  :o

OMG I bet if Tom Clancy saw this thread he'd write a book on it. 

White is Spanish and American? 
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2007, 09:44:06 PM »
Quote from: Father_Mike on May 17, 2007, 09:43:01 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:41:23 PM
I am the Japanese ambassador to Texas.  :o

OMG I bet if Tom Clancy saw this thread he'd write a book on it. 

White is Spanish and American? 

No, I am, I thought you'd misspelled wait as white.  :lol
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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2007, 09:45:54 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on May 17, 2007, 09:43:01 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on May 17, 2007, 09:41:23 PM
I am the Japanese ambassador to Texas.  :o

OMG I bet if Tom Clancy saw this thread he'd write a book on it. 

White is Spanish and American? 

No, I am, I thought you'd misspelled wait as white.  :lol
:lol :lol :lol
MY SPELLING ISN'T THAT BAD!!!!! 
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2007, 09:47:50 PM »
I honestly thought you meant "wait."  :lol
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« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2007, 09:49:37 PM »
Quote from: Ichirou on May 17, 2007, 09:47:50 PM
I honestly thought you meant "wait."  :lol

Thats because the ambassador of Texas is a bum whom lives under a bridge and can't spell, thus painted on his bum sign "embasitor of Japan, will feed information for food". 

Stay with me, jeez. 
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2007, 09:50:09 PM »
Well, FOC does claim to be ambassador of Japan, so that would fit.  :-*
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2007, 01:44:16 AM »
I thought it was a decent enough show. Kind of a debbie downer movie but interesting anyway.
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Re: a little let down with Pan's Labyrinth (and Ichirou bitches about history)
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2007, 02:01:08 AM »
i just watched it again.  god, i love this movie.
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